Hey folks, longtime lurker, first time poster. I want to say a quick thanks to everyone here for all the work you folks do, and all of the super informative posts here that have helped me throughout the years.
My question is this, I just recently got an AT&T Note 3 from a friend, and wanted to flash CM to it, but I soon learned that the bootloader is locked and this would not be possible for me. I know development for this (now 3ish year old) phone is probably long dead, but I hope somebody will stumble upon my post, and be kind enough to help me with an idea I'm working out in my head. I have a friend who has a tmobile note 3 that has a busted screen, and was wondering, if I either a) swap my screen into it, or b) swap the tmobile motherboard into my phone, would I be able to then flash Cyanogenmod, considering that I would have the tmobile motherboard in my phone, or just the working t mobile version in general? In theory, I would assume even the motherboard swap would work, though it would be annoying to have to do it.
What do you think, can I do this, should I attempt to?
Yes, the T-Mobile board should fit on the n900a.
The n900t does not have a locked bootloader so cm can be used.
Thanks for the reply, I may just give that a try then. Best case scenario, it'll be successful, and I'll have CM 13 on my device... worst case, I fail, and end up needing to replace the phone (which I should probably do eventually anyhow) this should be fun.
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Thanks for the reply, I may just give that a try then. Best case scenario, it'll be successful, and I'll have CM 13 on my device... worst case, I fail, and end up needing to replace the phone (which I should probably do eventually anyhow) this should be fun.
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It would be much easier for you to replace the cracked screen on your buddy's phone than replacing your motherboard with his.
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I understand that currently it cannot be relocked on it has been unlocked. But I would like to know why if anyone knows?
Would it be possible in the future?
And is there anyone working on this now?
There is no real reason to want to work on figuring it out.
The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases.
So no good reason to re-lock, and thus no real reason for devs to work hard on figuring it out.
Mine can be
Obviously that doesn't help you much though. To be able to lock it again, you need to know how to set S-OFF, which is something that (as it stands) can't be done.
Just wondering but if HTC honors the warranty on a phone with unlocked bootloader, why do the 2 different guides to rooting say one will void warranty (unlocking bootloader) and one will preserve the warranty (the one-click app)?
By law HTC can refuse to support but they are supporting for some strange reason. The disclaimers are there to warn that HTC could stop supporting at any time if they see unlocked bootloaders.
I think re-locking the bootloader is quite possible... the only problem at this point is... we don't know how... it could be a software or hardware hook, but ATM, no one knows...
And I don't believe anyone is eagerly trying to find this since HTC seems to be honouring hardware warranty even with unlocked bootloaders...
It is the price of doing business
Once the boot-loader is unlocked you can do things to your phone like over-clock the cpu or run the flash at super-bright for hours. In other words, you can do things that could damage your phone that would not be HTC's fault ... therefore they shouldn't be held liable.
So instead of just locking the phone down like most of the phones out there, HTC/Google give you a choice: Stay stock or unlock with one command. If you choose to unlock they they don't have to honour their warranty because you could be doing bad things to your phone.
The fact that they give us the choice is one of the reasons I bought this phone. The fact that they are honouring the warranties even when you unlock is extra nice of them.
Long story short: Unlocking is a sign that you've been messing with your phone and that is all it is. It is irreversible by design and there is no reason to reverse it.
It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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My money is on a special hardware device that HTC uses that force-flashes the entire rom on the phone. With out the special hardware, I am betting there is no way to do it.
But like others said, who cares. There is no point in putting effort in to something so irrelevant.
That's what I assumed, 'til I noticed my phone was S-OFF after being repaired.
Looks like something along those lines, just got my device back yesterday from having the power button fixed and its locked again. now that we have one click root i can now load CM6 without unlocking it again.
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...The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases...
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
Yeah thee only reason would be to cheat my warranty. but im glad to here that HTC has been honoring a lot of your guy's warranty's anyways.
To be honest a lot of manufactures dont fix the product, they just give you a new one anyways. so they made not even notice. right now im having a hardware issue with the trackball (i bought it on eBay :[ ) and i want to send it in but idk if i should??
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
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Sorry to hear, for me it never came up as a question. With you, since both are broken they probably assumed it was caused by software and wrote you off.
I would say keep trying they should be at least let you send it in, and then let you know if it truly is out of your warranty and give you a price to fix.
New phone :d
Called HTC and got some of the best customer service of my life. Told them my trackball wasnt working properly anymore and they are sending me a brand new phone with next day shipping. Never asked once about it being unlocked.
So it seems as you guys are right, as long as it isnt an issue that could be caused my unlocking and messing with you phone they will still honor your warranty.
BEST THING THO...I get to keep the battery, and i bought my phone used for 450 and now im getting a brand new phone
Just so you know OP. I unlocked my Boot loader, but my phone had hardware problems. So I called them, they said they would send out a replacement, next day I cancelled it for reasons I am not going to get into detail over. Well they replacement arrived and my card hold was realized, so I got two nexus's Think I am going to call them and still send the bad one back anyways though.
Moral HTC is has superb warranty!
I saw a SGT that is hanging at the bootlogo on ebay.
it's ending tomorrow, so any answers till then would be appreciated.
I hope I understood it correctly from what the seller wrote.
Is this easy to fix and how?
Im hoping to save some €uros, would it be a good idea if I can get it cheaper?
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one more question. is there a clockworkmod bootable sdcard for the tab or what do I have to do to flash a new rom?
Mate, there are a lot of reasons the tab isn't booting. You may not be able to recover this.
I personally wouldn't buy a tab thats not booting, there could be a hardware problem and then those euros you spent have just been thrown away as you can't return the tab. You were fully aware there was a problem before you bought it....
Good idea is to visit other countries ebay, you may get a tab for cheap though do make sure it is compatible with your networks and the seller is happy to sell overseas...
seller writes it was like that when he got it?
is this possible at all?
or must he have done something to it, like flashing a rom and doing something wrong so that he cant recover it.
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seller writes it was like that when he got it?
is this possible at all?
or must he have done something to it, like flashing a rom and doing something wrong so that he cant recover it.
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Well, if you buy it from him like that you would then be able to claim it was like that when you got it. It could be anything, as stated before, and I wouldn't touch it unless it was super cheap and I could use it for parts. Mine was brand new and after having it for almost a month it had to go in for repair (covered under warranty, but still a pain). Since you will likely not be covered under warranty, I just wouldn't bother.
he is sending the original slip with the device.
someone bought it for 301€, quite a lot.
Hi all. First of all, I come here because I hard bricked my tablet (I did some research on some brick terminology.) I have some questions at the end of this thread, to satisfy my curiosity.
I misunderstood instructions and bricked my tablet. I barely had it two months. The instructions I spoke of where to install CM7 beta on my tablet (instructions here).
I downloaded and installed the files, then used heidmall to flash it. After the flash, heidmall said it was sucsessful. The problem was that it was hard bricked. No response to any button I pressed. I went on the Cyanogenmod forums and asked some questions. One of the users asked what the carrier was.. Verizon Wireless, I answered him. He said it wont boot up because I flashed a rom with a different radio or something (I dont remember all the details).
One of my questions is that, yes I did root my devices prior bricking it (voiding it.) If I send it to Samsung to get it repaired, will they be able to tell that I did root it? I did not install any roms on it (yet) or tried to overclock it; only thing I really did to use the root access was to use the wireless tether (just once). I know over clocking can make the device over heat and that leaves evidence on the motherboard, from what I read, thirdparty software. I have seen some videos about fixing bricked tablets using a program called JTAG to fix the boot-loaders. If Samsung are able to fix it, will they be able to see that it is rooted or was?
My primary question is that, can Samsung fix my device when I send it in, regarding the radio. Or will they fix it because it is rooted, or if they can't tell if it is.
I ask the evidence of the rooted device because last year, my Motorola Droid got overheated and I had to send it in to get it replaced. That device was rooted and had CM6 installed on it. I sbf'd it back to original stock and Verizon didn't contact me, so I am assuming they can't tell that it was rooted.
Another question. If Samsung does decide to repair my tablet, how much would that cost? And if they do find out it is rooted and they ask me if I wanted it fixed, how much would that cost? Estimated prices would be appreciated as well.
Another question. I have been browsing around and I found some supposedly reliable people who can fix my tablet. MobileTechVideos to be specific. I am not questioning their authenticity anything. I am wandering if I should send my tablet to them to fix it instead of Samsung. Because I am wondering if Samsung would charge me up the whoohoo to get it repaired.
I know my questions are many and seemed jumbled together. But I am curious.
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1- as i'm sure you were on froyo - did you patch the bootloader patch ? if not , then this is what caused the hard bricked
2- samsung will not know if you were rooted your tab , actually they will know because most of people go there with this specific issue because they flashed roms\kernels Unofficial
3- if you still under warranty they will fix it for you (for free) without any cost , all you need is a drama ( i updated via kies and then my tab off and never wont boot again ) it works 100%
4- as i heard MobileTechVideo are trusted people and they fixed alot of tabs
if you still under warranty send it to Samsung with the drama i just mentioned above and they will fix it in( a month or 3 weeks) for free
please from now on , do read guides carefully we all humans and we may miss something or do some mistakes , batter to be careful more than to be sorry
good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127978
Yeah, I heard Mobile Tech do great job with only $50 dolar payment. You should let them fixed it for you..or
I'm not 100% sure, but there is 10 or 20% sammy can detect it is rooted. BUT if you already decide to send to sammy, better you make sure your tab is totally hard brick so that sammy could't detect it rooted at all. Ex:- put your tab inside microwave. I heard some person on HD2 forum do this and they manage to get brand new replacement of HD2. ;P..Just my suggestion.
haha..BUT read on this xda forum first. Do search until you are satistify your tab is screw up and totally hard brick and could not solve by you before you take my consideration..
You voided your warranty if you rooted it. Samsung will charge you to repair it because they will know. They will charge more than mobile tech, I promise. 130 from samsung is about right, 50 from tech.
You flashed a GSM rom into a CDMA device, so if you do get it repaired I recommend a lot of reading before you try again.
Sent from my "better than an iPad" tab... Running Overcome Gingerbread.
Just say it stop working , they won't know it's rooted i did the same thing and got mine replaced for free you got a year warranty.
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To reply to all above questions.
1. My tablet is completely hard bricked. No response to any hard reset or download mode. The screen bares no response to anything. I can feel some heat from the battery inside, just saying.
2. Microwaving my tablet seems a bit crazy. I might blow up my microwave and I have a feeling that would damage it to where Samsung will not replace it.
3. "You flashed a GSM rom into a CDMA device, so if you do get it repaired I recommend a lot of reading before you try again." Yes I know. I always thought that I could flash it back to fix it. But I can't even get to download mode.
It seems that I got some response that 'No Samsung will not find out its rooted', or 'Yes, they will find out I rooted it and will charge me." I will send it in to Samsung to get it repaired and tell the outcome here.
Hi ripjaw27!
any update on what Samsung said ?
I need to call them tomorrow!
Ofiaich
The Mobile Tech Video guys are very good. They resurrected by captivate when flashed the wrong bootloaders on it. Very fast turn around time and no BS whatsoever. I highly recommend them if you need JTAG services for any device. In the extremely rare event that he cant fix it he'll send the device back no charge - all you're out is shipping.
CDMA and GSM roms can't be used on the opposing devices... The wifi only version, gt - p1010, also shouldn't be flashed. You WILL end up with a brick, guaranteed... Fair enough you want to try these thingsa BUT theres a reason each rom is identified as GSM or CDMA....
They received my tablet, its been a week. But I haven't received any news from them. The ticket page they sent me still doesn't have a estimated repair date. So no updates as of yet.
I'd take down the repair invoice for a device you've admitted to bricking, friend. Just sayin...
Okay got an update from Samsung.
"*08/04/2011//11:49:50//0001773863//Telephone//ASC*
8/4/2011 10:41 AM-Edmond: The unit is repaired. SOLUTION: Replaced PBA"
It got repaired! Haha thanks. What is a PBA?
Okay got an update from Samsung.
"*08/04/2011//11:49:50//0001773863//Telephone//ASC*
8/4/2011 10:41 AM-Edmond: The unit is repaired. SOLUTION: Replaced PBA"
It got repaired! Haha thanks. What is a PBA?
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I'd take down the repair invoice for a device you've admitted to bricking, friend. Just sayin...
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Yeah thanks friend!
Just remembered what happened in a movie I saw.
Just for the records: Got my Hardbricked GTab repaired via T-Mo UK under warranty. Apparently they cannot check whether this has been flashed or not...
I think I might have to send my tablet back again. This time my 3G is not working after a few flashes and flashed a zimage to the modem and I bricked the modem now.... I have to find a stock firmware before I send it back. I am sad.
Ripjaw check your settings in > settings > wireless network > mobile network > names and connections and add your carrier UMTS - 3G \APN settings.
I did had the same when i flashed my GT-P1000, it is empty no default carrier settings build in..
OK mate, the 1st they'll repair under good graces but if you go back with the same or a similar problem, chances are they're going to look closer for the problem this time...
Guys
My milestone (A853) is giving problems. Every now & then, the screen is automatically pressed..mostly on the left hand side I think. What could the problem be? Is there pressure on the screen (which in my opinion should't activate button presses, but I'm not sure).
What should I do? Should I take it back to my service provider or is there something else that can be done? It's still on contract, so I can take it back, but, ithey won't be able to give me the Milestone again...meaning they must service it...and they probably would cause more harm. And since it doesn't do it all the time, they might not do anything...or they will be stupid and just flash the stock rom over again. Or they would surprise me - you can never tell. I stay in South Africa....
So now if I should take it back, I will need help. I need to get it back to stock...what's the best (I'm on Cyanogenmod 7). Please assist. I work thr whole week, so iif I should tqake it back, I must do it on a weekend...i.e. tomorrow, otherwise only next week.
Please assist.
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your digitizer is dying, i have the same problem, replacing it is the only solution i found so far.
you can find a replacement on ebay with the tools for about 20$ if you want do it on your own. if you still on contract the should do it for free because it's a common problem on the milestone.
[HOW-TO] Get your Milestone back to stock this should help you getting back to stock
Thanks, I will try flashing it back to stock - although the file might not be correct, but I'm just taking the "Africa" sbf for 2.2.1.
I will take it in tomorrow. So far today the phone has been fine though.
Thanks for the help.
PS. did you replace your digitizer?
not yet, but i will have to do it one day
my problem is that the back button gets "pressed" kinda annoying
Dear XDA Forum users-
I'm desperate! Short story is my wife cracked her Moto X screen, I tried to repair it with no luck, and she wants the pictures of her 8 year old niece that passed away a week ago! I never backed it up before trying to fix the cracked screen - and now the LCD is also broken. OK I know, I'm in divorce territory here. I need help. And I'm feeling AWFUL! The phone powers up but only vibrates randomly.
I've done a ton of research and it looks like if I had an unlocked bootloader I could install CWM and get the files back. Unfortunately her phone is a Verizon Moto X and cannot be unlocked.
I have been able to put the phone in fastboot mode and fasatboot.exe sees it. I can't get adb.exe to see the phone. I think USB debugging must not be enabled.
Am I completely out of luck? Can one of you save these very precious pictures for me? Please!
Thanks so much
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Dear XDA Forum users-
I'm desperate! Short story is my wife cracked her Moto X screen, I tried to repair it with no luck, and she wants the pictures of her 8 year old niece that passed away a week ago! I never backed it up before trying to fix the cracked screen - and now the LCD is also broken. OK I know, I'm in divorce territory here. I need help. And I'm feeling AWFUL! The phone powers up but only vibrates randomly.
I've done a ton of research and it looks like if I had an unlocked bootloader I could install CWM and get the files back. Unfortunately her phone is a Verizon Moto X and cannot be unlocked.
I have been able to put the phone in fastboot mode and fasatboot.exe sees it. I can't get adb.exe to see the phone. I think USB debugging must not be enabled.
Am I completely out of luck? Can one of you save these very precious pictures for me? Please!
Thanks so much
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The easiest way I can see is to have a cell phone repair shop look at it. I've replaced dozens of motorola lcds and digitizers and many that are also glued together. It should be a simple matter of replacing the entire front of the device. On the downside the replacement part will most likely cost upwards of $100 not counting the time it takes but this seems like your best bet at least from what I know.
Other more experienced members may be able to help recover the files in the state it's in.
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Thank you
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The easiest way I can see is to have a cell phone repair shop look at it. I've replaced dozens of motorola lcds and digitizers and many that are also glued together. It should be a simple matter of replacing the entire front of the device. On the downside the replacement part will most likely cost upwards of $100 not counting the time it takes but this seems like your best bet at least from what I know.
Other more experienced members may be able to help recover the files in the state it's in.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I agree, fastest fix is to replace the screen. Unfortunately I have no idea if that will actually fix the problem. You see the device is now just randomly vibrating. I have no idea what that means. It could mean that the device is broken completely - I did after all disassemble it in my effort to replace the cracked screen.
If anyone has a bricked Moto X they would be willing to donate to my cause, I would be most thankful!
If there is any way to confirm the pictures are actually there....that would be helpful. If they could be recovered somehow using fastboot that would be amazing!
Thanks!
Any other ideas?
It seems possible that I can load a recovery image while connected to fastboot and boot into that to get to ADB then pull the root filesystem.
Is that possible? Can anyone confirm please.... still desperate.