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Battery life

So this is the one factor thats making me hesitant to mess up my bank account on an HD7.
How does the smaller battery handle on the large screen? how many hours on a full charge of heavy 3g use?

I wouldn't say its amazing but its better than my old desire I get about a days use an am quite a heavy user, the real question should be will HTC make a bigger battery and sell in the accesorys store

I've had mine 2 days now using it non stop lol can't get it out of my hand. I've charged it twice I'm hoping once I've got over the shock of Wp7 I can get it to last a little longer. If you turn off all the auto sync options should last 2 days.

Also remember, all new phones should be fully charged and then fully discharged a couple of times before you start to see the "life" of any further charging.

xma1e said:
Also remember, all new phones should be fully charged and then fully discharged a couple of times before you start to see the "life" of any further charging.
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Did HTC outfit the phone with a Ni battery? It's a joke! You should calibrate your phone OS to the battery, but going "you must condition your battery" was relevant with old batteries with memory chips in them.

lqaddict said:
Did HTC outfit the phone with a Ni battery? It's a joke! You should calibrate your phone OS to the battery, but going "you must condition your battery" was relevant with old batteries with memory chips in them.
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Since you're so knowledgeable, maybe you should go and find out rather than take the micky of others?

Out of habit I always cycle new batteries fully a few times but reading about Li-ion batteries on Wikipedia, it appears they aren't susceptible to the same characteristics that Ni-Cads were.

Finding battery life quite poor so far...althought its a bit odd that when the lights turning green to say its charged when i look in WM status its showing about 3 qaurters :-S do you think theres something wrong?

It is a big screen smartphone. It needs charging every day just like my Desire, My HD2, My Palm Pre, My Touch Diamond2 etc.

i just make a habit of plugging it in at night and i get my full days use each day one thing I did note was turning the setting that update Microsoft off saved a lot of power.

Adam86 said:
Finding battery life quite poor so far...althought its a bit odd that when the lights turning green to say its charged when i look in WM status its showing about 3 qaurters :-S do you think theres something wrong?
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A lot of phones, including my nexus one, the charging light will turn green before the 100% battery level. My nexus one's light turns green at about 90%.
I believe there is also a feature to cutoff charging once it reaches a certain point to avoid over-charging.

diablos991 said:
A lot of phones, including my nexus one, the charging light will turn green before the 100% battery level. My nexus one's light turns green at about 90%.
I believe there is also a feature to cutoff charging once it reaches a certain point to avoid over-charging.
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Hmm i wake up at say half 3 in morning and see its green and 3 qaurters charged and then when my alarm goes off its exactly the same :-s

Adam86 said:
Finding battery life quite poor so far...althought its a bit odd that when the lights turning green to say its charged when i look in WM status its showing about 3 qaurters :-S do you think theres something wrong?
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Where is WM status?

I wonder why they don't use AMOLED screens like Samsung. Their Omnia 7 supposedly lasts 16-18 hours even if played with massively.

Eskibo said:
I wonder why they don't use AMOLED screens like Samsung. Their Omnia 7 supposedly lasts 16-18 hours even if played with massively.
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Because that is not true. For one, S-AMOLED screens have lower pixel density which makes everything look fuzzier, especially text. Yes, contrast ratio is fantastic, but I'd rather have a clear, sharp screen than a contrasty one.
As for power, they use very little when showing black, but consume a LOT when showing white, even more than LCDs. So they're awful for browsing the web as most websites use white backgrounds.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/wp7_102010191901/25168.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/wp7_102010191901/25169.png
Look at how the AMOLED based phones are last on the list, due to the screen; and that is even considering that all the Samsung Galaxy S class phones (Focus, Omnia 7, Captivate, Epic 4G) use a 1500mAh battery, which is greater than what HTC has been putting on their phones (1200-1300mAh).
The winner in WP7 battery life is the LG Optimus since it uses a standard LCD screen AND a 1500mAh battery.

Hey folks, to all of you interested in bettering the battery life: when I had my Desire, someone posted an interested trick in a thread, can't find it anymore but I do remember the procedure and indeed it imroved my battery life, so just try it and please report:
1- With the phone on or in standby mode, full charge until the led turns green,
2- Unplug and power off the phone
3-Plug again the AC charger into the phone still powered off and wait until the led turns green.
That's it, now your battery life should be better now, and the good thing is that you need to repeat the operation only if you buy a new battery.
f.

The battery life is definitely poor. I've been using Android for 2 years, and I thought their battery life was bad. Overall, I'm very satisfied with the HD7. It gets the job done for me.

With moderate use I easily get 16 hours out of mine with charge to spare

Its better than Android and the amoled screen, so I'm happy with the HD7 battery life.
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express

I have had mine for about two weeks now and I charge it every evening while I sleep. It will last me the 12 hours I am at work and still have 1/3 of a charge approx. when I get home. I have the screen turn off after 30 seconds, and the bluetooth is off but other than that it update emails as soon as it sees new ones, my WiFi is on, and I use it to look up things off and on all day probably about 3 hours of web surfing during the day. Over all I am very satisfied with battery life. I could probably get more if I turned off the updates for email, turned off the 3G till I needed it, turn off the WiFi till I need it, lower he screen brightness, etc. But if I can make it through the day with it configured the way I have it now with 1/3 of a charge to spare I am happy.

[Q] Battery consumption N7000

Hello,
I know people have talked again and again about this problem. But I have to ask again because until now I did not found any solution. I have a N7000 and a 7000mah battery (I had in the past a 5000mah battery). My mobile phone looks like a old TV but guess what, the battery holds maximum one day! I have had the problem with all my mobiles in the past (HTC HD2, HTC sensation). I have tried to find the problem by using betterbatterystate with no success. I always turn off bluetooth, GPS and so on. I have installed juice defender ultimate for a long time on my mobile, it makes everything worst. I have really tried too many things, but they all did not help. Is there something that I am missing??? Or is it android?? Is iphone better than that? I am a heavy user but maximum one day with 7000mah?? With the original battery I have to laugh when I look at my battery consumption.
Please give me some new tips. Something that really works. What is wrong with me????

It depends on how you use it....
Most smartphone should have no problem with 48+hrs "standby time"
But in most cases, the only thing that consume the most energy is the display.
I always keep it at the lowest. (only turn on auto while using under sunlight)
I turn off gps, mobile data, wifi. (only turn them on when I need them)
I get around 5 hours (max) with the stock battery. (Screen on time)
But if you are gaming, well you will be lucky if you even get 3 hours.
For games, its depends on how its being code. I have 2D games (Kairosoft games eg. Game Dev Story) which has a greater impact on battery life than a 3D game.
*There are a lot of fake batteries out there, falsely labelling their battery with higher mah. Good battery usually cost $50+.
a 7000mAh should be around $80 (exclude shipping)

Also, a 7000 mAh battery would be three times the size of the original. I honestly believe that the announced 7000 mAh batteries are no where near their announced capacity.
My suggestion would be to buy an original samsung battery. That is what I did and the battery lasts for a day, or for 6-8 hrs with heavy usage.

comscier said:
It depends on how you use it....
Most smartphone should have no problem with 48+hrs "standby time"
But in most cases, the only thing that consume the most energy is the display.
I always keep it at the lowest. (only turn on auto while using under sunlight)
I turn off gps, mobile data, wifi. (only turn them on when I need them)
I get around 5 hours (max) with the stock battery. (Screen on time)
But if you are gaming, well you will be lucky if you even get 3 hours.
For games, its depends on how its being code. I have 2D games (Kairosoft games eg. Game Dev Story) which has a greater impact on battery life than a 3D game.
*There are a lot of fake batteries out there, falsely labelling their battery with higher mah. Good battery usually cost $50+.
a 7000mAh should be around $80 (exclude shipping)
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I dont play any games with the phone. I use it mostly to call or chat or browse. Regarding the fake battery you are may be right. It costs only about 15 $. I have switched back to the original battery but still, it does not look good. I still dont know what is wrong with my n7000

se1988 said:
Also, a 7000 mAh battery would be three times the size of the original. I honestly believe that the announced 7000 mAh batteries are no where near their announced capacity.
My suggestion would be to buy an original samsung battery. That is what I did and the battery lasts for a day, or for 6-8 hrs with heavy usage.
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I have checked the healthy of the original battery with some apps and they show all "good healthy". Should I still buy another one? How long is the life time of the original battery?

ht96 said:
I have checked the healthy of the original battery with some apps and they show all "good healthy". Should I still buy another one? How long is the life time of the original battery?
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never trust an app to tell you how your battery are doing.
I would recommend you to buy an original Samsung battery. They have a life span of several years, but should be changed after one year as the capacity deteriorates.

ht96 said:
I dont play any games with the phone. I use it mostly to call or chat or browse. Regarding the fake battery you are may be right. It costs only about 15 $. I have switched back to the original battery but still, it does not look good. I still dont know what is wrong with my n7000
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buy a new battery, your battery maybe dying
make sure you get the real thing though.
Do some digging before making any purchase.

Any good 3500mAh or 3800mAh batteries for the G4

Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks

Its not possible to have a higher capacity (mAh) Li-ion battery without increasing its size.
I personally use the TrendON LG G4 Battery kit and have been really happy with it. While the batteries last about ~75% as long as the OEM battery, it comes with 3 (depending on the bundle you choose) and a wall charger. Really great deal and an 18 month warranty! http://www.amazon.com/TrendON-3000-Spare-Replacement-Battery/dp/B010P2BQ2S
Hope this helps!

I ordered a (supposedly...) 3500 mAh battery online. It's the same size as the stock battery. My expectations are low, most likely won't actually live up to the rating etc. Either way I'll let you know after it's in my hands and I try it out for a day or two. Hoping it doesn't turn my beloved G4 into a pile of melted plastic.

rick09 said:
I ordered a (supposedly...) 3500 mAh battery online. It's the same size as the stock battery. My expectations are low, most likely won't actually live up to the rating etc. Either way I'll let you know after it's in my hands and I try it out for a day or two. Hoping it doesn't turn my beloved G4 into a pile of melted plastic.
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Yeah I know what you mean, the ones I have seen look so cheap and ready to do more harm than good.
If some good company would just make one around that level, but bigger than 3800 and you need new case/adds bulk.
Fingers crossed one you get is all good.

genardas said:
Its not possible to have a higher capacity (mAh) Li-ion battery without increasing its size.
I personally use the TrendON LG G4 Battery kit and have been really happy with it. While the batteries last about ~75% as long as the OEM battery, it comes with 3 (depending on the bundle you choose) and a wall charger. Really great deal and an 18 month warranty! http://www.amazon.com/TrendON-3000-Spare-Replacement-Battery/dp/B010P2BQ2S
Hope this helps!
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You haven't paid much attention to LIPO packs since the beginning, have you? LIPO batteries are constantly getting smaller while packing more and more current capacity. A denser battery pack is possible just as a LIPO pack with the same size dimensions having less capacity than 3000mAh

Bit shocked Mugen have not done one, I see they tested a 3100mAh, but a extra 100? is it worth it, thought for sure they would have tried a 3200/3500mAh, but all there is out there is cheap no name stuff.

voodoochild2008 said:
Fingers crossed one you get is all good.
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Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.

any link or screenshot please? would like to get one
EDIT: is this the one? http://www.amazon.com/3500mAh-Rechargeable-Replacement-Battery-BL-51YF/dp/B0122K53DO

rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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Many thanks for the review, seen many no name ones,
http://www.miniinthebox.com/mini-sm...157328772762&gclid=CJepqaWQicsCFUko0wodJlsLDg
http://www.amazon.co.uk/YHC-BL-51YH...qid=1456066969&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+g4+3500+mah
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mbuynow-380...p/B019H2FQ2I/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
And the ones that look like yours, no idea who makes the better one.

rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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Rick coulda you link the one you bought? http://m.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html ???

Hi All,
Dude your looking on the wrong places. Try AliExpress for Batteries and more! A 3800mah Battery an't going to cut it man. You'll need a case for it. Like mine with a 7700mah Battery. Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/accessories/2-extended-batteries-test-t3320662 for my testing and pictures
Look here for the Batteries and more http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160223124746&SearchText=3800mAh+lg+g4
Edit1: A 3500mah would actually fit without a custom bought case http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2x-3...52&btsid=2dd82693-22fc-46b6-8277-cb8017d83bd8

voodoochild2008 said:
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
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I got a 4500mah battery on the way to my house. Its a slim one so no new back is neede. Im not going to say where i got it or anything about it until i test it and everything. I dont want anyone odering it and somehow the battery makes the phone catch fire lol.

Eddiekool12 said:
I got a 4500mah battery on the way to my house. Its a slim one so no new back is neede. Im not going to say where i got it or anything about it until i test it and everything. I dont want anyone odering it and somehow the battery makes the phone catch fire lol.
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I hope it is not fake. I will wait for your opinion about sot for example. Good luck.
Ps. Found that on ebay. 4500mah battery that fits without adding back cover (slim). I checked opinions aaand:
"It capacity is 3000 mAh, it's just fake, seller is lier, ignore my questions.
Reply by ******* (Feb-14-16 23:10):
PLS charge 8-12 hours before using.Negative can't solve any problems, blacklist!"

Hello There,
a friend of mine would also like to extend his battery life, so an answer if the 3500 mAh or 3800 mAh did the job would be great, Thanks!
Are there any alternatives which do not massively extend the phones case?
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Hello rick09,
Which 3500 mAh Battery did you test which had a great performance?
Thanks Mate
rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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thedropdead said:
Hello There,
a friend of mine would also like to extend his battery life, so an answer if the 3500 mAh or 3800 mAh did the job would be great, Thanks!
Are there any alternatives which do not massively extend the phones case?
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Hello rick09,
Which 3500 mAh Battery did you test which had a great performance?
Thanks Mate
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The 3500mah is the only one that would fit. any higher then a Custom case would be needed. I have one on mine and it's not that thick. I actually bought another case to fit on top of the one that came with my 7700mah battery. just look at my post and see the difference

Sorry for such a late respond but here is the one I purchased http://www.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html
Saw someone posted the same link a few posts up too. Figured I'd reply to let you all know that it's still working great. Actually had to swap to the original for a little when I was running out and didn't have time to charge. I honestly couldn't wait to get this battery back in. Still getting over 4 hrs screen on time, auto brightness, GPS and WiFi always on, NFC always on, Bluetooth on a good amount of the time and connected. I placed an order for a second one.

rick09 said:
Sorry for such a late respond but here is the one I purchased http://www.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html
Saw someone posted the same link a few posts up too. Figured I'd reply to let you all know that it's still working great. Actually had to swap to the original for a little when I was running out and didn't have time to charge. I honestly couldn't wait to get this battery back in. Still getting over 4 hrs screen on time, auto brightness, GPS and WiFi always on, NFC always on, Bluetooth on a good amount of the time and connected. I placed an order for a second one.
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Ha, i get 14hrs of on-screen time with my 7700mah battery

voodoochild2008 said:
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
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krater1212 said:
I hope it is not fake. I will wait for your opinion about sot for example. Good luck.
Ps. Found that on ebay. 4500mah battery that fits without adding back cover (slim). I checked opinions aaand:
"It capacity is 3000 mAh, it's just fake, seller is lier, ignore my questions.
Reply by ******* (Feb-14-16 23:10):
PLS charge 8-12 hours before using.Negative can't solve any problems, blacklist!"
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It just camein today. Doesn't feel as if it is cheap. Slightly heavier than stock battery. I haav to go through some charging cycles to let the battery settle. Will report back with anything new.

Been using the battery since my last post and well i like it. With stock battety i get no more than 2 hours sot and the new one i can get up to 3.5hrs. An im a heavy user. Using an anker quick charger it takes about the same amount of time to charge both batteries. Although the new battery does look really cheap it doesn't behave like a cheap battery. No over heatings and no shorting out when using too much. I provided some pictures of the battery just in case you want to know what it looks like.
P.S. I do go back and fourth between both batteries when they die out. For the first week of having it i soley charged both batteries inside the phone with the quick charger. Now i have an actual little battery charger which saves me a lot of time between charges.

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Ha, i get 14hrs of on-screen time with my 7700mah battery
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and I get 2 months on-screen time wit my Optima Yellow Top
the OP asked for a slightly higher capacity battery that fit flush with the OEM battery door, that gave better performance without adding any extra bulk and limiting case options. Of course a 7700mAh is going to last longer than a 3000-3800mAh. But that wasn't his question. They're EXTREMELY limited on case options, and take up a LOT more space in your pocket. It's something I wouldn't go for, but a 3800mAh battery that allows the use of all the OEM backs and cases while giving over 25% more juice sounds quite appealing to me

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the LG V20 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I am getting about 6hrs of sot will post pic later

Sot im getting right now

I dont know about you guys but im getting outstanding battery life. I'm going to do a test later today. Im going to charge my phone upto 100 (after it reaches 0 today) and then when 5 minutes after it says is 100, i will unplug it and i will put a 1440p video that last more than 8 hours and see how long it last with full brightness and wifi on. Then im going to post Very specific details about how everything went. Oh , aslo it will have speaker at its maximum
oh and just have in mind, i have 35 user apps installed, and some of them constantly sync (so it means more battery consumption)

Just over 3hrs. I dont think my phone has started optimizing apps or putting them in Doze.

My sot had been nothing short of spectacular.. I'm getting 5hr average... nexus 6 would barely reach 3... my g4 not even 3 also..I always wondered how people were getting above 4hrs.. Ive gotten 6+.....I jus miss stock Android

I get 4 hours with medium usage and leave everything on. Wifi, BT etc. Brightness is on Auto but it shows at 50% to 70% most of the time at work. It's my bright office...LOL

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Just over 3hrs. I dont think my phone has started optimizing apps or putting them in Doze.
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Same as I got yesterday... I don't do anything to try and extend battery life though (brightness always on auto, and I usually turn it up a little bit). Today will be my 2nd full day with the phone, and after 2 hours off the charger I had 99% left (only 5 minutes screen on time), but then I used the phone for about 15 minutes and it dropped quick to 94%)... Time shall tell, hopefully it is till just optimizing like you said...

I'm on my 2nd charge and like you guys above, I'm getting abysmal battery life.
I'll give the phone another week or so to optimise, and if it doesn't - it'll be sent back to T-Mobile with a piss poor rating in terms of battery life. What a shame if that's the case..

2 hr 17 minutes screen on time. 68% left, second screen turned on while sleep. Loving it! Restored all my app backup from Google, so its not a plain phone.
This is after my first full charge it's only gonna get better as I rarely install new apps.
Auto brightness at times, manual on others, as the brightness of this phone doesnt compare at all to my note 4.
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First full day at work with the phone, and actually pretty light usage day and gotta say the battery is a bit of a let down so far. My shorter days at work over the weekend gave me some concerns, but today I'm at 2% left with 13h 28m standby and 2h 17m screen time. No calls, no videos. Maybe a dozen messages, web browsing, 20mins of spotify for commute. Frankly it "feels" like it lasts the same as my 2 year old m8.

10hours 45Minutes
I don't have a sim in mine so all my use is just on Wi-Fi. Indoor use with 30-40% brightness, 49 apps and services disabled. The day after this I did 1080p 60fps video streaming while plugged into my Bose speakers using the Hi-Fi DAC for a little over 5Hours and got about 6.5Hours total SOT. But so far 10hours 45 minutes is my record. Another time I did get right at 10 hours so it wasn't a fluke.

I'm not activating mine either so that's pretty sweet.

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Auto brightness at times, manual on others, as the brightness of this phone doesn't compare at all to my note 4.
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I concur as well. I'm also coming from a Note 4 and the V20 is definitely brighter at 100%.

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Sot im getting right now
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Hey, can you share any settings you may have altered to receive such SoT. I'll be lucky if I get 4. I used to get 6-7 hours on the Note 7 I had.

Yeah the battery life sucks, and I like everything else about the phone except ****ty LED screen (I know why they didn't use AMOLED, not cost, but because with no physical home button, the buttons would burn images in AMOLED, LED won't). In any case the true test of a battery is Pokemongo at 100% brightness (which you need with this screen at all times to look half way decent). Note 7 5 hrs, Note 4 4 hours, V20 3 hours, all at 100% and same resolution/settings. So yeah, the battery life sucks, end of discussion. And my phone is a week old, no bloat and settled. Another quirk is sometimes Antutu gets 147k excellent score and sometimes it gets half that, for no reason at all, as well as 3dMark being horrible as well for some reason, half of what it should be.

This is my third LG phone (Had the V10 and G5 before), and the battery performance appears very strong on this. On my first full, non-setup charge, and using my normal work activities (lots of emails, texts, calls, and periodic social media), here's what I got
Total time on battery: 54 hrs 52 min
Total call time: 3hrs 2 min
Total SOT 2hrs 44min
That's great life a regular business user. Also, the screen is way brighter than the V10 and G5.

I've been getting phenomenal standby time on this phone, thanks to the new and improved Doze, better than any other phone I've ever had actually. I'm just not getting great SOT, like many others out there and I can't figure out why. I've had the phone for about a week now and all of the apps should've been optimized by now, I think. Anyone else having similar issues?
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Dmarco, a factory reset could be the solution

Guys it is simple. It is the same Snapdragon 820 in about 10 other devices with similiar battery sizes. But the V20 will get A LOT less screen on time, my estimation is 25-50% less depending on how bright the screen is. I need the screen at 100% and low comfort blue filter to make the screen even kinda decent, like a Samsung at 70% brightness. Anyways the LCD screen on the V20 eats A LOT of battery power, it can't compete with an AMOLED. That said, the only benefit is that in 2 years your screen won't have any burn in and be worthless.

Battery mods have terrible battery life?

I've been using both the incipio offgrid, and tumi powerpack battery mods (both are wireless charging variants) and have noticed just awful battery life. from 100% it charges my phone up maybe 15-20 percent, and thats with the screen off, just streaming music. If I'm using the phone (just surfing the web or instagram) the battery dies in around 30-45 minutes, is this normal? I expected alot more out of these. I can just stare at the notification bar and watch as the battery drops, my software is up to date, and I was just wondering if this is normal? Is everyone else getting this awful performance? I expected way more for like 70-80 bucks each...

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I've been using both the incipio offgrid, and tumi powerpack battery mods (both are wireless charging variants) and have noticed just awful battery life. from 100% it charges my phone up maybe 15-20 percent, and thats with the screen off, just streaming music. If I'm using the phone (just surfing the web or instagram) the battery dies in around 30-45 minutes, is this normal? I expected alot more out of these. I can just stare at the notification bar and watch as the battery drops, my software is up to date, and I was just wondering if this is normal? Is everyone else getting this awful performance? I expected way more for like 70-80 bucks each...
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This is not normal. While I don't have either of these, based on the reading I've done and reports I've seen from people who do, the Incipio off grid should be able to charge your phone up 50-75% when attached. Not sure if you have some crazy wakelock that's keeping your CPU maxed out all the time or what, but dying in 30-40 minutes makes no sense.

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This is not normal. While I don't have either of these, based on the reading I've done and reports I've seen from people who do, the Incipio off grid should be able to charge your phone up 50-75% when attached. Not sure if you have some crazy wakelock that's keeping your CPU maxed out all the time or what, but dying in 30-40 minutes makes no sense.
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When I got it to die In 30-40 min I was on a phone call and surfing instagram. Took the tumi out yesterday with 80% battery in it and had my phones screen off streaming music over Bluetooth. The phone charged up about 25% before the battery pack died. Any ideas on how I could improve the battery life? My moto mods manager is up to date and I don't get any prompts to update anything whenever I snap on the mods

I was surprised when I found this post, so I checked how many percent of battery do I get with a my incipio battery mod. I plugged the mod, my phone's battery was at 15% and the battery mod was at 100%.
Now the Incipio battery mod is empty and my phone's battery is at 50%. So it charged my phone by 35%.
Pretty disappointing for a 2220 mAh battery that costs almost 100€ ...

To me the best use of the mod is to snap it on when the Moto Z Play is fully charged and to chose the option to keep the phone battery at 80%. With normal use, i've seen the mod keep the phone at 80% for up to a day. To me the mod is not meant to charge the phone but more to keep it from discharging.

To me the idea of the battery mod makes no sense.
There is an Aukey 16000 mAh power pack with QuickCharge 3.0 available which boosts the battery in nearly no time. I paid less than 20 Euro.
Who needs such a battery mod with a Moto Z Play which lasts all day under heavy usage?
Who needs such a battery mod when power packs are big, cheap and fast?
Who even needs the power pack if you have a wall outlet with a QuickCharge 3.0 charger boosting the battery percentage in no time? I needed that power pack when the previous phone (Moto X Play) had some hardware defect making it lose power.
Edit: These questions are meant honestly. Are you living in the desert for several days and can't afford to carry a bag?

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To me the idea of the battery mod makes no sense.
There is an Aukey 16000 mAh power pack with QuickCharge 3.0 available which boosts the battery in nearly no time. I paid less than 20 Euro.
Who needs such a battery mod with a Moto Z Play which lasts all day under heavy usage?
Who needs such a battery mod when power packs are big, cheap and fast?
Who even needs the power pack if you have a wall outlet with a QuickCharge 3.0 charger boosting the battery percentage in no time? I needed that power pack when the previous phone (Moto X Play) had some hardware defect making it lose power.
Edit: These questions are meant honestly. Are you living in the desert for several days and can't afford to carry a bag?
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The battery mods are not particularly useful for the Z Play because if you charge every night, you have basically unlimited battery life. Battery packs are extremely useful for the regular Z, though, which has extremely poor battery life on its own. They're basically mandatory for the Z.

I'm shocked that battery mods can only charge your internal battery and can't be used directly (discharging the mod battery instead of the internal battery), the same way Thinkpads that have more than one battery can do. That makes the $80 (vs maybe $10 for a 2000 mah ravpower) cost all the more eyebrow-raising.
I'd love to use them as a way of preserving the sealed in internal battery's longevity, making the internal battery the backup battery and wearing out the easily replaceable, easily swappable mods instead.

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I'd love to use them as a way of preserving the sealed in internal battery's longevity,
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What do you think how a battery should be treated to prolong its lifetime?
This is a serious question. I'm not sure if charging cycles do matter these days. The point which makes batteries getting weak is the age. An additional battery will not help reduce the age.
Of course you should be careful not to be in extreme cold or heat. If the battery is below 30 percent, you should consider to charge it. You should not charge it again if it's over 80 percent. But trying not to use it seems not to really be helpful for the battery to have a longer life, although battery lifetime usually is given in battery cycles. At least this is my experience. If it does not get hot when used or charged, all batteries nowadays start getting weaker a bit after about 2 years, it gets really recognizable after 4 years, and when they are 6-8 years old, they get so low that they may not fulfill there purpose anymore. Cycles? Never recognized any influence for the lifetime. But one hot day with a usage above average where the battery gets hot may really cause a recognizable decrease in capacity.
If you have some source comparing battery lifetime for different use cases (storage, low usage, middle usage, frequent usage, under different conditions of temperature, fast charge and slow charge) I'd be really interested.

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What do you think how a battery should be treated to prolong its lifetime?
This is a serious question. I'm not sure if charging cycles do matter these days. The point which makes batteries getting weak is the age. An additional battery will not help reduce the age.
Of course you should be careful not to be in extreme cold or heat. If the battery is below 30 percent, you should consider to charge it. You should not charge it again if it's over 80 percent. But trying not to use it seems not to really be helpful for the battery to have a longer life, although battery lifetime usually is given in battery cycles. At least this is my experience. If it does not get hot when used or charged, all batteries nowadays start getting weaker a bit after about 2 years, it gets really recognizable after 4 years, and when they are 6-8 years old, they get so low that they may not fulfill there purpose anymore. Cycles? Never recognized any influence for the lifetime. But one hot day with a usage above average where the battery gets hot may really cause a recognizable decrease in capacity.
If you have some source comparing battery lifetime for different use cases (storage, low usage, middle usage, frequent usage, under different conditions of temperature, fast charge and slow charge) I'd be really interested.
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Same sources as you, personal experience and basic knowledge (battery life being measured in cycles). I'm not even completely worried about average aging, but out of a batch of millions of batteries, plenty will start to experience rapid discharge early, even without abnormal heat, not to the point of being completely dead, but certainly no longer tolerable. Today's phone batteries might actually tolerate heat better than in the past, having been built for quick charging, which is the hottest a sd625 seems to get.
I've read manuals and battery university and a few tech blog articles all of which have differing advice, just like you and me, but I have yet to find a source I find credible (based on diverse large scale testing not limited anecdotal evidence or in the case of manuals, insanely outdated nicad-era stuff). And, sincerely no offense intended, I'm unlikely to decide cycles don't matter and weight your anecdotal evidence over mine anymore than you'd weight mine over yours. But if you ever find a good source with those comparisons, I'd be pleased to check it out too.

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Who needs such a battery mod with a Moto Z Play which lasts all day under heavy usage?
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Because I'm a very heavy user of my phone and don't want to worry about power even if I can't get to a outlet during the day.
Who needs such a battery mod when power packs are big, cheap and fast?
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Because the bat mod is easy to slap on and keep on all the time (when I'm not using a different mod). Then I never have to worry about taking the pack with me or not or carrying the extra cable with me or not.
Who even needs the power pack if you have a wall outlet with a QuickCharge 3.0 charger boosting the battery percentage in no time?
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Because I don't want to have to worry about having the charger with me or finding a spot to charge.
I fully admit that I tend to be more paranoid about running out of power than I need to be, but I like to be secure knowing that I should have more than enough battery life, even if I can't charge overnight. I like to know that I can grab my phone at any point of the day and walk out the door with it without having to worry about taking a charger with me.

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I fully admit that I tend to be more paranoid about running out of power than I need to be, but I like to be secure knowing that I should have more than enough battery life, even if I can't charge overnight. I like to know that I can grab my phone at any point of the day and walk out the door with it without having to worry about taking a charger with me.
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I quite like just not having to charge for three days. I have the battery mod which I use on the efficiency mode, and I got over a full day out of it. At the end of day three I had nearly 30% battery left. Probably enough for most of one more day.
The other thing for me is using wireless charging. I like just slapping my phone on a stand overnight when I do charge it. It charges slowly, yes, but it doesn't matter if I am charging overnight. I still have access to the quick charger if I need to get a full battery quick!

I use mine on my motorcycle where I'm riding for 10 hours a day. I'm at about 50% in 4 hours and dead by 7 or 8, so I'm hoping with the additional battery MOD that I can get at least 12 hours charge. I'm really bad about remembering to plug my phone in when I stop for a break!

@tag68 : dude I think you totally missed to read what @fortunz was saying, he was only pointing that he would like the Mods to be used as a primary source battery instead of being a "ultra-portable power bank".
Given that there is also a fraction of the power being lost in the form of heat, during charge/transfer, it is even more silly from Motorola not to have the battery used directly. I can say by the 25-35% charge from the Mods estimated from other users, that the efficiency is somewhere around 50%, HORRIBLE to say the least.
And yeah I was reading through both of your posts and good information was provided, although unnecessary friction used (not naming anyone).
I actually have kind of the same idea from @fortunz to prolong the battery life of my Z-play even with the mod just being a power bank.
Saying that the mods (~2220mah) charge your phone anywhere between 25-35%, I can actually take the top 25-35% out of my internal battery use and move it to the Mod.
So I can charge my phone up to 70% before going to bed, and then when my phone reaches 30% during the use next day, I'll just slap the mod.
I can allow myself a lot of variation to this, I will not be religious about it, the topic is to avoid hitting 100% charge, and instead, moving the wear of that 30% usage to the Mod.
According, to many articles, citing just one below, considering the depth of discharges and voltage levels, you guys might do the equation if you like, but according to the charts and theory:
charging my phone twice a day trying not to exceed 70%, will give me WAY more longevity run than charging up to 100% every day.
First charge will be from around 15% which is my normal deadline to around 70% with a wall charger, before going to bed.
Second charge will be from the mod from around 30% to around 60% (hopefully), which will give me portability while charging.
Total screen on time during the day, should be around 10% less, but well worth and I can definitely take the hit if getting more battery longevity as a trade.
Source:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Huh, it even makes sense when explaining to other people...

In re: friction, I took no offense from the exchange. Hopefully I didn't cause any either.
Good luck with your efforts. I have considered using this app to to stop charging early: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002 Haven't started using it yet.

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In re: friction, I took no offense from the exchange. Hopefully I didn't cause any either.
Good luck with your efforts. I have considered using this app to to stop charging early: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002 Haven't started using it yet.
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Sadly that application requires root... and I don't want to unlock the bootloader and then having to worry about SafetyNet...

For me SafetyNet is green using Magisk 12.0 as root solution, but that may change of course. But it would help for the battery.
Short rant about this topic: It is strange that the owner of a device can be forbidden to restrict the charging. You bought it, you should be able to do these things with it. Introducing SafetyNet is a bad idea by Google. Security should be made by algorithms, not by hardware. Using public key anyone may modify anything, and you can still assure the content to be trustworthy. There no need to prove the Android not to be modified, it is just a bad idea, unnecessary restricting the user. Owner.

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For me SafetyNet is green using Magisk 12.0 as root solution, but that may change of course. But it would help for the battery.
Short rant about this topic: It is strange that the owner of a device can be forbidden to restrict the charging. You bought it, you should be able to do these things with it. Introducing SafetyNet is a bad idea by Google. Security should be made by algorithms, not by hardware. Using public key anyone may modify anything, and you can still assure the content to be trustworthy. There no need to prove the Android not to be modified, it is just a bad idea, unnecessary restricting the user. Owner.
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Well said
Thanks for the tip! I'll have it mind!
At the moment I don't feel like unlocking the bootloader because I'm planning to use the moto Mods and these can't be used with custom ROMs yet, and I have no use for root other than changing the work mode on Greenify but it already works well enough in No-Root mode, so for me there is no true benefit.

A good resource for lithium batteries are rc helicopter forums. Helis use speed controllers of many tens of amps, drain the batteries in minutes versus days to low levels and charge them at high speed. What reduces their life is heat, overcharging the voltage or over discharging the voltage. They do not age if left in a partial charge. You can let them sit for years unused and they will lose very little capacity. If you only run them at 70%cycle, they last about 3000 cycles.

Well, that was weird.
Phone at 9%, mophie mod at 100%. Put it on, barely used the phone (even took a nap). About an hour later, the mophie mod is at 50%, but the phone actually went down to 8%. Took off the mod and the phone went immediately to 4%. Ouch.
Mod normally works fine. It'll keep the phone at 80% for most of the day just fine. Not sure what was going on.