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I'm really interested in making mobile payments via a device (either phone or wrist). From what I've seen Apple watches can make terminal payments. Do Android watches do the same?
If so, where does that functionality lay? Phones with unlocked bootloaders can't pass Safetynet (I know there are some ways around this) and hence can't use Android Pay. Is the watch's payment ecosystem separate from the phone? As long as the watch is stock, mobile payments will work? Or does Android Pay need to be working on the watch AND phone?
Currently I use a Jawbone UP4 fitness tracker which has support for AMEX NFC payments. It's never really worked though. My wife has the female version and it works great, so I may have a defective unit. Looking for alternatives since Jawbone has been unresponsive.
I do not think Android wear supports this at this time, maybe when 2.0 is released
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I'm interested in the Urbane 2 if it can be used as a wifi hotspot but I can't find any references about it anywhere.
I have two sim cards, one that I use as my main phone number and the other one with unlimited data for wireless connectivity when needed. I carry two devices now and it would be more convenient to me if one of them was the watch.
Thanks for any help.
Watches usually had small battery. I don't think it'll last long as hotspot.
I don't need it to last long. Only for a few minutes at a time and 8-10 hours per day.
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Anyone knows if it is actually supported or not? Someone who owns the Urbane 2?
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Anyone knows if it is actually supported or not? Someone who owns the Urbane 2?
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Nothing on the watch itself. If you can find an app for wear or that has wear support then I don't see why not. The main bug bear with this watch is the lack of cellular supporting apps, hopefully a change that will come through with AW 2.0.
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Nothing on the watch itself. If you can find an app for wear or that has wear support then I don't see why not. The main bug bear with this watch is the lack of cellular supporting apps, hopefully a change that will come through with AW 2.0.
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Ok, thanks. Hopefully AW 2.0 will address the issue.
Hi with the LG Watch Sport out, the LG Urbane 2 is dropping price, now around $170-$190 region for mint/new.
I was wondering if anyone knows, tried succeeded/failed on using the watch as a Wifi or BT hotspot, so say I had the watch, say a tablet, and a USB battery to keep the watch running longer, with the phone acting as hotspot for the tablet to get to the internet via the watch?
Does anybody have any information on the matter?
My cellular contract gives 5GB free and I too cannot
use my LG Urbane 2 as a Hot Spot.
Yiannis
I'm interested in this as well (Urbane 2 LTE here) as with Sprint, I can't talk and data at the same time - like it's friggin' 2008 or something. So in those situations when I'm in a conference call on the road and I want to pull up some message, it'd be nice to pop on the watch's hotspot, phone connects to it while in the call, and voila, data & call. Might burn through my ~35% end-of-day battery reserve, but worth it.
Unfortunately I don't think it's possible for an app to be able to provide this functionality... it might be hidden in the Android Wear OS, though (most of it coming from Android itself), but just needs a trigger. My watch's carrier (Ting) supports hotspot functionality on everything, so it'd be supported by the carrier and everything, if it could just be activated...
I want to lose the smartphone - or at least move it to my wrist. Like many others, I have a Laptop PC, a tablet, a smartphone and bluetooth headsets. O, yes, and a heart pulse monitor chest strap (It is NOT a bra!). An Eco-system of things that, need to be programmed, configured, charged, connected and synched.
I would love to replace that with a combined PC tablet and a capable Smartwatch (and the headsets, of course).
Today, there is no-one to provide me with the components I need. The latest Smartwatches seem to be only lacking a little programming (HotSpot and fitness apps that synch across platforms) and battery capacity. Nearly there!
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I want to lose the smartphone - or at least move it to my wrist. Like many others, I have a Laptop PC, a tablet, a smartphone and bluetooth headsets. O, yes, and a heart pulse monitor chest strap (It is NOT a bra!). An Eco-system of things that, need to be programmed, configured, charged, connected and synched.
I would love to replace that with a combined PC tablet and a capable Smartwatch (and the headsets, of course).
Today, there is no-one to provide me with the components I need. The latest Smartwatches seem to be only lacking a little programming (HotSpot and fitness apps that synch across platforms) and battery capacity. Nearly there!
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Once I got an LTE capable tablet, paying the extra but the cellular networks are financially penalizing tablets, for no valid reason other than greed. So that means I got phone SIMs, in fact two phone SIMS, an ATT and a T-Mobile. I currently have both in a dual-SIM phone. I also have a Truphone incoming-free and expensive data so if I do want to spend a brief time without a phone I just enable the watch SIM and get hit with say 15c of cost. That is tolerable.
The smartwatches are suffering from small battery so you cannot really make them replace the phone.
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So ever since upgrading to the PIE beta on my note 8 the mag spoofer functionality in Samsung Pay is no longer working. NFC still seems to work but not the mag spoofer. Any one else having this issue or know of a work around?
I don't think the beta version of pie is designed to work with Samsung Pay.
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So ever since upgrading to the PIE beta on my note 8 the mag spoofer functionality in Samsung Pay is no longer working. NFC still seems to work but not the mag spoofer. Any one else having this issue or know of a work around?
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"beta".
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So ever since upgrading to the PIE beta on my note 8 the mag spoofer functionality in Samsung Pay is no longer working. NFC still seems to work but not the mag spoofer. Any one else having this issue or know of a work around?
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By "Mag spoofer", do you mean "Magnetic Secure Transmission", or MST for short, used for emulating your physical credit card's magnetic stripe?
More info here: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/what-is/mst/
Indeed, as of now the One UI Beta on Note8 does not support Samsung Pay. After my further testing I've found that MST is disabled, but NFC still works, so I'm using Google Pay as of now.
Really miss Samsung Pay especially the MST, as I've found now Google Pay doesnt work on as many places as Samsung Pay did previosuly, as many of the shops in my country dont have a NFC reader, but Samsung Pay worked flawlessly in the same shops in the past.
Combined with the bugs I've found with Wifi calling, AOD, broken UI, non functioning Intelligence Scan (One of my most anticipated features). Also not really a fan of the new icons tbh.
Although, I do like dark mode and the fact that all most of the UI buttons have been moved to the bottom, I'm currently contemplating whether I should revert back to using Oreo on my Note8 as a more stable daily driver and wait for the official release in February.
Did you try downgrading back?
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So, the RM3 has no NFC. I sadly had to notice that (albeit many pages claiming it has!). I usually use my phone together with Google Pay here in Germany to pay groceries and stuff. Obviously, that's not gonna work as easy.
I've now seen reviews of the Mi Band 4 - which supports Alipay and has a NFC chip in it. Is there any similar device (preferably able to be paired via BT for messages ect.) that brings similar features to the Mi Band 4 with Google Pay ? I am interested in a smart band, and would pay a good bit for one given the fact I would have to carry a purse without one.
As one who owns an iPhone, to buy and use the GW5 Pro to the fullest, I am fine with owning a cheap Android device for Samsung Health. I am not in a country where SHM is supported. Can I do the below? If so, what are the caveats/limitations?
1) Preferable: Buy an Android tablet and install the modded SHM app on it. If this can work without issues, what's a nice tablet to get?
2) Buy an Android phone. Not preferable but I will get one if no other choice. Is Samsung Galaxy recommended over other Android phones? Since the app isn't supported in my country, does it matter what Android phone I install it on?
Please let me know.
And the reason I don't want an Apple watch is because they're useless for anything other than manual heartrate monitoring. I used the Apple Series 7 for three months and it spent less time on my wrist and more on the charging puck. What I want is body measurement, calorie intake, stress measurement and passive sleep tracking for a targeted daily routine.
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As one who owns an iPhone, to buy and use the GW5 Pro to the fullest, I am fine with owning a cheap Android device for Samsung Health. I am not in a country where SHM is supported. Can I do the below? If so, what are the caveats/limitations?
1) Preferable: Buy an Android tablet and install the modded SHM app on it. If this can work without issues, what's a nice tablet to get?
2) Buy an Android phone. Not preferable but I will get one if no other choice. Is Samsung Galaxy recommended over other Android phones? Since the app isn't supported in my country, does it matter what Android phone I install it on?
Please let me know.
And the reason I don't want an Apple watch is because they're useless for anything other than manual heartrate monitoring. I used the Apple Series 7 for three months and it spent less time on my wrist and more on the charging puck. What I want is body measurement, calorie intake, stress measurement and passive sleep tracking for a targeted daily routine.
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Firstly ,
I can tell you ,an Android Tablet, wont work with a Samsung Galaxy watch 4 or any other Samsung Smartwatch ( as far as i know or my own experience )
I have a old Samsung Gear S3 ,Galaxy Fit and the Samsung Watch 4 .
I have installed Galaxy Wearable app on my Android Tablet S 6 Lite ,
It installs ,but that it .....i got a "toast message " basically
stating that the Tablet is not compatible with a /any smatchwatch ...???
Yes" somebody ""might have found a workaround ,to this....?
but i doubt it ,as most of the post ,i have seen on Web ,has been complaining that they cannot install/connect their smartwatch .
Yes ,it should be compatible with Samsung phone or other Android phones ???
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To get an idea what you can do re SH app and workaround on how to enable certain function ? , that might not be available in your Country , ( ? ) read this XDA thread ,for ideas ..... !!!
[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - WearOS - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ WearOS WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Samsung Watch4 and Watch5 (as mentioned Samsung WearOS Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country...
forum.xda-developers.com
Good luck
Thanks for your comment. It's too bad that it won't work with a tablet, I could've used a tablet.
Just on that second question then; since I'll be side-loading the app, will any phone be equally good or will getting a Samsung Galaxy phone still be better. Also, will a phone like Samsung Galaxy A03 work? That seems to be the cheapest phone right now.
It will work on any Android phone, but it works best with Samsung phone. Especially the Galaxy phones. People have had issues pairing the watch to other phones, but I have read others that have paired with little to no issues.
May I ask, would a FitBit type of watch work where you are located? It would have the functions you are looking for and work with most phones.
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May I ask, would a FitBit type of watch work where you are located? It would have the functions you are looking for and work with most phones.
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The Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis is what draws me to this watch primarily. And the fact that this has a larger battery which can last 3 days or more. I'm less interested in those other basic features like steps counted, GPS tracking, exercise activities etc and more into state of being. So yeah, a fitbit-type watch wouldn't work.
OK. Understand. In that case, if possible, you should stick with a Galaxy phone. If you use another Samsung phone you should be OK but be aware you may have to work with it to get the watch to connect. I would not recommend using other Android phones. The connect app for the Watch 5 is the Samsung Wear App and if you get a different Android device, you will have to side load the app and hope it will work.
A friend of mine was in a smiliar situation with his GW4. At first he connected it to his wife's phone, but then he got a small cheap Android phone, which worked great for him. This is what I would suggest you as well. You can carry it with you or not, the watch works perfectly in airplane mode, or if you want the notifications in standalone mode (if connected to wifi or LTE).
You can even buy a cheap budget Samsung phone if you want to have ECG and BP out of the box, but you can easily sideload ECG and BP apps (instructions here on XDA) and use them with any Android phone, so it doesn't have to be a Samsung phone at all.
I got a Watch 5 Pro just 10 days ago, and I'm super happy with it. It's lighter and smaller than I thought it would be and it even looks much better than in pictures. On a hand it looks less thick than on photos. The band is comfortable and so much easier to use than other regular bands. It charges fast and the battery life is great - 2 full days with AOD and 3 without AOD. It could go for longer if I don't fiddle with it as much as I do, lol! And not have literally everything on, even automatic workout detections and sleep tracking. Google maps navigation on a watch is great, btw! More useful than I thought it would be.
I have a non-Samsung Android phone and everything works great, of course.
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OK. Understand. In that case, if possible, you should stick with a Galaxy phone. If you use another Samsung phone you should be OK but be aware you may have to work with it to get the watch to connect. I would not recommend using other Android phones. The connect app for the Watch 5 is the Samsung Wear App and if you get a different Android device, you will have to side load the app and hope it will work.
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Everything works perfectly for every Android phone! Samsung's Wear app is really good and has worked perfectly for me for already 2 years with one Tizen and one WearOS Samsung watch. No delay with a single notification ever! I can't say the same for some other bands and watches I tried (Honor/Huawei and Xiaomi).
Sideloading the ECG and BP apps works as well on GW5 Pro. No problem there, thanks to ADB and Android being so customizable...
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Thanks for your comment. It's too bad that it won't work with a tablet, I could've used a tablet.
Just on that second question then; since I'll be side-loading the app, will any phone be equally good or will getting a Samsung Galaxy phone still be better. Also, will a phone like Samsung Galaxy A03 work? That seems to be the cheapest phone right now.
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If you're asking will any Android phone work with the Watch 5, yes any Android phone will work, and there's no advantage of having a Samsung model.
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OK. Understand. In that case, if possible, you should stick with a Galaxy phone. If you use another Samsung phone you should be OK but be aware you may have to work with it to get the watch to connect. I would not recommend using other Android phones. The connect app for the Watch 5 is the Samsung Wear App and if you get a different Android device, you will have to side load the app and hope it will work.
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I disagree with this. There is no reason not to use any brand Android phone with a Galaxy Watch.
I want a smartwatch with excellent battery, NFC for travel cards and Boarding passes. That picks BT from iPhone 12 and Mac. I do have a 4 year old Samsung phone that I can set it up, then use it as standalone.
The exercise functions are easy to find, it's trying to find a cheap watch that allows me to leave my phone safely in my bag, that is difficult.
The Apple SE seems to be what I need in my budget, but the battery is poor and I'd welcome some thoughts on alternatives.