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Just out of curiosity, why hasn't there been any custom roms or development ?
I really hope someone is working on root for non pure edition.
Development was pretty light with the 2013 version too. The combination of limited market (dev edition only) and the near stock experience, and the loss of what makes the Moto X special, means not very many people are seeking an alternative.
What about kernels? Surely we could benefit from custom kernels and keep all our moto x a pure android experience, correct? Like possible for color cal and battery life? :silly:
Custom roms ya custom kernel can come only after motolola releases its kernel sources
My impression was since its " pure edition" it would be developer friendly .
dia_naji said:
My impression was since its " pure edition" it would be developer friendly .
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It is developer friendly. There just isn't a lot of development for the reasons listed above.
Restola said:
Development was pretty light with the 2013 version too. The combination of limited market (dev edition only) and the near stock experience, and the loss of what makes the Moto X special, means not very many people are seeking an alternative.
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This, I have a Droid Maxx and the wife has a Moto X. We enjoy the anti Samsung, pure Google experience enhanced with touchless and active display. No reasons to try any AOSP Roms. Development is so light for the Droid Ultra/ Maxx that CM dropped support for it, but that is due to how good the stock ROM is. I ran Paranoid on my RAZR Maxx HD but still moved back to stock because it is smoother and has better cell reception. All the cool little functions are just that, cool. Paranoid's implementation of their dynamic status and notification bars are the best I've seen, much better than the xposed modules. But at the end of the day, it is about functionality and useability. Stock Motorola Roms are very good, just need to debloat all the Verizon crap in my case. As far as kernels, hopefully faux123 will do something with the new Moto X. I'm running his kernel on my Droid Maxx and Moto X and it definitely enhances the phone more than any aftermarket Roms could. The reason why I hangout in the Moto X forums is because there are not a lot of us Droid owners and the Moto X forums is where we get most of our stuff. I'm running a Moto X port on my Droid Maxx for example. This holds true for the new Droid Turbo also which I am definitely interested in. That is if there's a way to unlock the bootloader. Unlocked bootloader with 3900 mAH battery and 21 mp camera and the Moto X experience? I'm in, still have an upgrade available! But I don't foresee the bootloader or root being available for these new phones for a long while. In the mean time, I'll enjoy my unlocked Droid Maxx and Moto X and continue to lurk around here. Lol
You can use Xposed Framework, I think, with the 2nd Gen. Moto X. It will give you many of the popular features from custom roms that aren't in stock Android.
The only other reason I can see for custom roms on the Moto X (at least as far as it concerns me) is that I think they can be better for privacy and getting rid of under the hood bits of code that might be abused for marketing/tracking purposes. Also I think the CyanogenMod Account is a more secure way to track and remotely wipe your phone, than the Android Device Manager. At the end of the day, I trust Cyanogen to have my security and privacy in mind more than Google or Motorola. But I don't think this is enough that people will feel motivated to develop a lot for the Moto X (for the reasons already stated above).
I can't see development being any busier than the quiet 2013.
Too many Moto limitations... Like bootloaders not being able to be unlocked on some big carriers. And as said, no custom features on aosp/cm roms. Downgrade issues.... If it's like the 2013. Etc.
The X's are not for flashaholics .... That's for sure.
jdubya42 said:
I really hope someone is working on root for non pure edition.
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The pure edition root method by jcase works fine on other devices. I rooted my xt1093 last week, seen some Brazilian carriers' rooted (also non pure, xt1092 maybe?), and I'm 100% confident it'll work for any moto x with an unlockable bootloader.
Am I wrong in thinking that only the pure edition has an unlockable bootloader?
Where to find stock firmware? For verizon?
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Am I wrong in thinking that only the pure edition has an unlockable bootloader?
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Yes, quite wrong. Search and Google are your friend here.
Only Verizon cannot be unlocked presently AFAIK.
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Where to find stock firmware? For verizon?
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I don't think any carrier branded X has made this available yet...
Well thats why I didn't know that. I have the VZW model.
cb474 said:
You can use Xposed Framework, I think, with the 2nd Gen. Moto X. It will give you many of the popular features from custom roms that aren't in stock Android.
The only other reason I can see for custom roms on the Moto X (at least as far as it concerns me) is that I think they can be better for privacy and getting rid of under the hood bits of code that might be abused for marketing/tracking purposes. Also I think the CyanogenMod Account is a more secure way to track and remotely wipe your phone, than the Android Device Manager. At the end of the day, I trust Cyanogen to have my security and privacy in mind more than Google or Motorola. But I don't think this is enough that people will feel motivated to develop a lot for the Moto X (for the reasons already stated above).
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I have mine rooted and running Xposed with GravityBox and it works just as well as my original version Moto X did. I don't see the need for a custom rom, though I might try CM once there is a version for it.
Well as someone said, even the Moto 2013 had very very little development. But I would love to see a Custom ROM based on Moto's software itself. Cleaning out small bugs and unrequired services and maybe add couple of extra features.
I just received my Moto X (2nd gen).... I should have looked on the forums first... Without custom ROMS - I'll most likely just send it back to Moto...
I like the options the custom roms bring. I like choosing the toggles I desire in the window shade, custom themes, etc... Not being able to do those things... Meh - I have been tweaking my experience since 2007. I don't like the idea of just running a plain Jane rom.. This sucks as I really like the hardware... Almost enough that I would spend the time trying to learn to make a custom rom myself... But, I can't expend the time to learn, debug, etc... Sadly, I'm too busy with my day job...
As long as you're not on Verizon, Xposed modules should be able to give you all the customization choices you'd ever need.
I was hoping for custom Lollipop roms and Xposed won't work on Android 5.0 (and, it is uncertain if it will ever work on Lollipop).....
I came from a Droid Maxx. I loved the active display feature and it's the feature that I miss most from my Maxx. Has anyone gotten Moto X's or Droid Turbo's Active Display to work with our N6? I realize there are apps in the Play Store that somewhat do this but they aren't the same.
Cincybearcatfan said:
I came from a Droid Maxx. I loved the active display feature and it's the feature that I miss most from my Maxx. Has anyone gotten Moto X's or Droid Turbo's Active Display to work with our N6? I realize there are apps in the Play Store that somewhat do this but they aren't the same.
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With the new Motorola X Pro on the horizon which appears to be the clone of the Nexus running stock Moto software I don't expect many devs to bother porting it over. I think they will wait till it releases and port over bits from the framework to make it easier.
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With the new Motorola X Pro on the horizon which appears to be the clone of the Nexus running stock Moto software I don't expect many devs to bother porting it over. I think they will wait till it releases and port over bits from the framework to make it easier.
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If we can get a system dump then it should be possible. I think devs will want to port features over and incorporate them into their ROMs.
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If we can get a system dump then it should be possible. I think devs will want to port features over and incorporate them into their ROMs.
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If they can't post it I hope they are able to port the entire ROM. It would be so nice to run the stock Moto software as it will probably be Lollipop and include stuff like the Active Display, camera software, Moto Assist and other stuffs
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If they can't post it I hope they are able to port the entire ROM. It would be so nice to run the stock Moto software as it will probably be Lollipop and include stuff like the Active Display, camera software, Moto Assist and other stuffs
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Its possible I suppose but we have to see what we can get our hands on. I suspect that you could run stock moto firmware on the nexus since it's virtually the same device. The ROM will probably need to be modified in some way to do this if its even possible but I feel like the features will be ported before a whole ROM is
um, doesn't the Nexus have active display? mine acts just like my motox
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um, doesn't the Nexus have active display? mine acts just like my motox
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It has Ambient Display, which I believe is not exclusive to the N6 but built into Lollipop and only active for compatible hardware. It is also slightly different as Moto Display will continue to flash, or "breathe", the latest notification till you view or dismiss it. It is also heavily optimized specifically for the Moto X hardware and screen technology which makes for great battery life.
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It has Ambient Display, which I believe is not exclusive to the N6 but built into Lollipop and only active for compatible hardware. It is also slightly different as Moto Display will continue to flash, or "breathe", the latest notification till you view or dismiss it. It is also heavily optimized specifically for the Moto X hardware and screen technology which makes for great battery life.
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That's correct only AMOLED screened devices have the ambient display. My Nexus 9 did not have it in the display settings. Since the Nexus is a Motorola device and the same exact specs as the X Pro we can assume that there will be some porting done. There is a OP discussion Moto X Pro in the Q&A section if you want to check there.
I cant wait till someone ports it over, would love to see MOTO X features on my Nexus 6
I'm definitely for this, even if it's a pipe dream. It would be awesome to have the moto display instead of ambient display, it's much better
mustangjoe302 said:
I'm definitely for this, even if it's a pipe dream. It would be awesome to have the moto display instead of ambient display, it's much better
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Why is it a pipe dream? I imagine there are many people that would like this to happen.
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Why is it a pipe dream? I imagine there are many people that would like this to happen.
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Things like this can be extremely difficult. Often the people who would like them to happen don't have the skills (or the inkling to learn) where as the people with the skills (or inkling to learn) don't care or want to get involved. Its quite rare that skills and would like meet up in a single person.
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I cant wait till someone ports it over, would love to see MOTO X features on my Nexus 6
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same here... I would so pay for this feature! Ambient display is a joke
What's the software like on Moto's Moto x pro?
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What's the software like on Moto's Moto x pro?
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Near stock android but with very useful features
What I meant was I believe the Moto X pro is the Nexus 6 with Moto software. If someone makes a ROM from its system dump, maybe we could have all the Moto features.
Yep waiting for that too haha even looking on baidu to see if I get anything
Does anyone have the Moto X Pro? Because I can't find a system dump for the life of me! I want to port Moto Display so fast
It looks like it was released recently
https://plus.google.com/106984013892934805292/posts/DKXkGMJ6gzs
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It looks like it was released recently
https://plus.google.com/106984013892934805292/posts/DKXkGMJ6gzs
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Let me know if anyone finds this, I really would like to have the moto voice
Let me start by saying that I am new to Motorola phones and think that the X 2014 is a smooth performing phone. I am enjoying it very much.
With that said since I'm not all together familiar with the development of Motorola phones and was wondering if the lack of Roms was typical to Motorola phones or just this one in particular?
I am by no means criticizing the Dev's and have high respect for all of them but, compared to other brands HTC, Samsung, One Plus One it just seams that development has kind of started off slowly compared to other brands.
Would like some opinions as to the development especially for a phone with a unlocked boot loader.
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grneyez said:
Let me start by saying that I am new to Motorola phones and think that the X 2014 is a smooth performing phone. I am enjoying it very much.
With that said since I'm not all together familiar with the development of Motorola phones and was wondering if the lack of Roms was typical to Motorola phones or just this one in particular?
I am by no means criticizing the Dev's and have high respect for all of them but, compared to other brands HTC, Samsung, One Plus One it just seams that development has kind of started off slowly compared to other brands.
Would like some opinions as to the development especially for a phone with a unlocked boot loader.
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For example, Moto G has a lot of Roms and developers working on it. The Moto X is difficult because of the sensors and Motorola not releasing the codes for them. I used to have one (moto g) and I am not regret of my Moto X now, because the options like Moto Voice or Moto Screen are really awesome and flashing a custom ROM make the useless, besides, the stock Roms like the new 5.0.2 is incredible smooth and super fast. Just my opinion.
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For example, Moto G has a lot of Roms and developers working on it. The Moto X is difficult because of the sensors and Motorola not releasing the codes for them. I used to have one (moto g) and I am not regret of my Moto X now, because the options like Moto Voice or Moto Screen are really awesome and flashing a custom ROM make the useless, besides, the stock Roms like the new 5.0.2 is incredible smooth and super fast. Just my opinion.
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I appreciate your opinion, thanks.
In my opinion there are three main, practical reasons why people develop or install custom ROMs (aside from the obvious "Because it's cool and I want to" tinker factor)
1) To upgrade a phone to a newer version of Android early or after the manufacturer has abandoned support for the phone
2) To remove bloatware or restore stock features that were replaced by bloatware
3) To access fancy new features that are not included in stock Android.
Now apply these to our phone: Reason 1 is moot because Motorola has (so far) been pretty good at rolling out updates. Not as fast as a Nexus device, of course, but pretty good compared to many other manufacturers. 2 is not really a concern on our phones because the Moto X has pretty much NO bloatware... The few things that it does have are either nice feature enhancements or very small/unobtrusive. Finally, number 3 is now easily taken care of by rooting and installing the Xposed framework. I really think xposed has changed the game with regard to custom roms. You used to HAVE to go custom to get any significant feature enhancements to the OS itself... Now things that once were only found in CM or other popular roms can be added to any rooted phone. Kinda removes some of the motivation for creating a whole new ROM.
So, with all of that considered... you're really only left with the tinkerer/because I want to motivation which may not be as compelling to all developers.
Just my $0.02 though...
-Matt
Now that we have xposed I am at peace with not having so many roms.
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Anyone able to port over the new moto camera apk? Had a chance to see it today and would love to have it on my n6
That's already done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3116455
Getting an official version of AOSPA would be really unlikely to happen but do you guys think we should get unofficial port of it ?
Since the One Plus One has his own official ROM, and these devices aren't too different specs-wise, it shouldn't be too difficult to port to our device right ?
Really hoping to see AOSPA comming for Moto X 2014 Have a nice day
Was also hoping someone would port it over if it was possible. Loved using that ROM back in my Nexus 4 days.
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