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So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
Steve-x said:
I have seen several posts on flashing XT1053(retail/tmobile/developer) firmware on XT1058(AT&T/Rogers/etc) hardware. I believe most people were only doing the OS though and not the entire flash(including the radio/modem)
The XT1053 is FCC ID ihdt56pa2 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 1700/850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04 and 17
The XT1058 is FCC ID ihdt56pa1 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04,05 and 17
So the differences are that the XT1053 supports wcdma 1700 and the XT1058 supports LTE band 05.
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But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
shusain93 said:
So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
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I can confirm that the "T-Mobile" Moto X (XT1053) works 100% on AT&T 3G and LTE. I am using this model on AT&T's GoPhone service without any issues, both 3G HSPA+ and LTE work fine.
It is true that the XT1053 model is "missing" an LTE band (Band 5) -- however, AT&T does NOT use this band in the United States (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas), and the T-Mobile version has Bands 4 and 17 that AT&T uses in the U.S. So, if you're using AT&T in the U.S., the T-Mobile XT1053 model will work fine on LTE.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly.
Hope this helps!
James
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One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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They provisioned mine at the store as I needed a new nano sim card. I had a gophone HSPA+ account with my Nexus 4 and they added the IEMI from the Moto X to my account, changed my plan to an LTE plan and I got LTE on the Moto X. Took 5 minutes.
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
James
Anybody know if my microcell from atnt will work with the Tmobile version of the moto x?
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No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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I activated a brand new account with the Moto X, so I didn't already have an LTE device on it like you do. I bet yours will work right out of the gate. I wasn't trying to scare you or imply that your phone wasn't going to work, but I wanted to let you know of the possibility of that happening and what to do if it did happen. Having been in the same situation you will be in (using AT&T on a T-Mobile Moto X), I just wanted you to have all the info.
I'm definitely not the only one to have run into a similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45965273&postcount=169 . This was a reply from someone helping me out w/ the LTE issue when I first got the phone in September:
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Mine works on AT&T LTE out of the box. You might have to try several things: call CS and make sure your IMEI is in the system. This should update and provision your account for LTE hopefully, though sometimes they don't recognize non-AT&T phones. Make sure to shut off your phone, go outside where it's clear and reboot after they do that as it needs to a very clear signal to latch onto the tower for the first time for LTE. If that doesn't work, you need to call CS and make sure you get Tech Support and basically geek out to one of them (about how you know what bands it has and what an APN is and double check you've got the correct one, etc) as they'll have to do all sorts of things to possibly get it to work. I finally had to use my old AT&T LTE phone IMEI and keep that on the account to keep it correctly provisioned. Weird, but just my experience.
It does work though on AT&T LTE.
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Thank you everyone! Looks like I'm getting a T-Mobile X.
I got one today, more worried about it not connecting to my microcell. 32 gb Super stoked!!!
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Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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From the sounds of it, my information from earlier in the thread may be outdated. I had the IMEI issues back in September, but from what I can gather now (and based on my experience with the Nexus 5), I think AT&T's IMEI database has been updated to automatically provision new unlocked phones to LTE.
I would just take your Moto X into an AT&T store when you get it and try it with its own IMEI -- if LTE doesn't work, just ask one of the reps if they have a placeholder LTE-enabled IMEI they could punch in instead, this is what they did for me back in September.
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chirpa12 said:
Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
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I've cut down a micro SIM to a nano SIM with no problems. AT&T will give you a nano SIM for free if you walk into a store and ask for one though.
Great info guys. I'm planning to get the T-Mobile Moto X myself to use on AT&T, do I need to unlock the phone? and how do you do that?
The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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Russell Sprouts said:
The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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I already have a Galaxy S3 with LTE enabled, all I need to do is to cut the sim card right? to have LTE on T-Mobile Moto X
I'm not sure how that works... Is it really as simple as swapping the Sim card? I just got a T-Mo Moto X to replace the AT&T version I've been using on T-Mo prepaid and I thought I'd at least have to register the new IMEI before I could use it.
EDIT: Well I just successfully swapped my sim into a new T-Mo Moto X and it connected right away to LTE. So that answers that. No need to call or otherwise notify T-Mo. The above discussion suggests it may be more complicated on AT&T, though.
Does anyone know?
What?
I will save you the trouble.... Your number is 16.
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Does anyone know how to take sprint number of the phone in about setting I don't want my old number there anymore
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From what I remember selling Sprint phones, once a number is programmed into it, it stays until programmed with a different number.
It was like that on my Verizon phones too, except that the number would eventually fall off after several months of not being on network.
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i dont under stand what you are asking did you leave sprint and take the phone to another carrier.
or
did you change your number with sprint. if so by updating your profile it should change everything to the correct information.
a little bit more info would help
It stays until reprogrammed as far as I know. Every time after my gf has upgraded a phone, I'll reset and reinstall stock firmware and the number and sprint pcs email remains in the settings
I got the Sprint HTC One M8 (HK) with the intent on bringing it over to Ting which accepts Sprint devices. Issue is, the One is carrier locked via the IMEI until April, one year after the release date. So that was a bust. In the meantime I have a Fascinate with Verizon, that I can use as a donor phone for all its info. Thing I am having issues with is understanding what else needs to be changed to use the phone with Verizon. I read something about the radios need to be flashed and then while I can find the IMEI and MEID, and I can use fastboot to write my own, I cannot find anything for ESN or the MIN(MSIN). That plus the activation number, I assume will dial to Sprint not Verizon, so I'm trying to figure out what else this would entail. I will back up everything, since once April comes around, i'll switch to Ting, but until then, I'd like to enjoy my new toy.
I think XDA have a rule about giving you information about this... This is the same as bad ESN and changed it to make it work again and that is fraud..
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I think XDA have a rule about giving you information about this... This is the same as bad ESN and changed it to make it work again and that is fraud..
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Hi guy I hope for quick answer.
Will I Verizon Nexus 6 will it work on Sprint??
Very thanks.
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It has the frequencies, but Sprint is very reluctant to activate phones not bought from them. Unless you have no other option, avoid Sprint and go with any of the other three carriers.
Thanks what I thought.
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Yes, i am using it on sprint.
However mine was an unlocked phone (at&t) and not from Verizon. As far as it is unlocked, it should work.
Also, i believe sprint website has a phone check which can test whether a phone will work on their network. They need imei number fof this..
Correct me if im wrong but from what I can tell, looking through my sprint Nexus 6, it has not only all the sprint associated files, apps, and services running in the background, but also the verizon wireless files, apps, and services running 24/7 even though it is a pre-ordered, 2 year contract, nexus 6 acquired from sprint,com at release 3+ years ago lol. From what Ive gathered, no matter which version you have they are the same, say If I wipe my sprint 6 with a sprint sim in it, on first boot it will recognize sprints sim and boot accordingly from that point on even after removing the sim. If after wiping it however with no sim card installed it would boot into carrier unlocked config until a sim card is put in, then it would config itself based on what sim card was installed. The hardware from what I understand is 100% identical across all models, motorola uses 1 antenna with all bands, it just configs differently soon as it detects a sim card.
Technically will work, as long as sprint will do it for you. Your gonna have to go around to stores and on the phone and bs until someone just does it.
Here the big issue I'm from Ohio and here locally they will not activate non Sprint phones.
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I have no idea, just a question. I wonder if the google factory image is installed rather than the Verizon released OS if that would make it easier to put on Sprint.
Isn't that the deal with Verizon; they have their own locked down OS?
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Correct me if im wrong but from what I can tell, looking through my sprint Nexus 6, it has not only all the sprint associated files, apps, and services running in the background, but also the verizon wireless files, apps, and services running 24/7 even though it is a pre-ordered, 2 year contract, nexus 6 acquired from sprint,com at release 3+ years ago lol. From what Ive gathered, no matter which version you have they are the same, say If I wipe my sprint 6 with a sprint sim in it, on first boot it will recognize sprints sim and boot accordingly from that point on even after removing the sim. If after wiping it however with no sim card installed it would boot into carrier unlocked config until a sim card is put in, then it would config itself based on what sim card was installed. The hardware from what I understand is 100% identical across all models, motorola uses 1 antenna with all bands, it just configs differently soon as it detects a sim card.
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You're not completely wrong. However, the AT&T Nexus 6 is carrier locked, unlike the other devices. It can be unlocked however. As for the bands, the SoC has certain bands configured for the region of the world the device is to be used in. This configuration is done independently at a low level and cannot be altered without special software.
EDIT: The SIM card inserted into the device determines which bands are used among those configured at the factory.
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Hi guy I hope for quick answer.
Will I Verizon Nexus 6 will it work on Sprint??
Very thanks.
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If you have an activated Sprint Nano SIM, you could just try it in the N6 and see if it works. I have an AT&T N6 that I use on Verizon by following that process
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
f2000sa said:
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Verizon phones are all carrier unlocked. I'm using a Verizon Note 8 on T-Mobile right now.
Couple questions:
1. Have you double checked to make sure the IMEI is clean and clear? If its blacklisted on Verizon, it won't work on any US carrier.
2. Do you have a nano SIM from Sprint that's already activated?
3. Have you tried flashing either the unlocked firmwareor the Sprint firmware on it?
Thanks, Mr. Orange645
The phone was bought brand new a month ago from Best Buy , and used on Verizon for a month. Phone paid off and no contract. IMEI should be clean. I did a check on Ting with the IMEI , and it can be used for GSM.
I have two nano sims from Sprint, both activated and un-activated. The problem is that Sprint can not add the IMEI to their system. I called Samsung and gave the IMEI, and was told that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. I wonder whether there is way to do CDMA unlocking.
I did not try to flash unlocked ROM. I think that IMEI on sprint network is the first step.
So you have a nano SIM that's already activated with Sprint? It's in a Sprint phone right now and has service?
If So, put the activated SIM in your Note 8 and see if you have service.
Sprint shouldn't have to activate your phone, just the Sim. That's how you can buy the Unlocked version from Samsung.com and stick your Sprint SIM in it and have service.
Sprint uses CDMA, and have to add the IMEI to their system to make it work. Also tried the activated sim, with no luck.
There is no "CDMA unlocking," it's either carrier unlocked or it's not. And ALL Verizon LTE Devices are Carrier unlocked.
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Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Have you tried simply factory resetting the device first and then booting up for the first time with the activated Sprint sim in.
Maybe try flashing Sprint firmware?
IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
Did Sprint not provide some sort of reason/explanation as to why they are unable to add the IMEI? If they can't do it, surely they can tell you why.
CDMA networks are finicky -- Sprint's in particular -- when it comes to bringing over other carrier devices (even ones with compatible hardware). Some good info in here:
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhon...y-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
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IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
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I believe someone is giving you false information. You should be able to place an activated SIM card into the phone and start using it. That's how the unlocked Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL, Galaxy S8, Galaxy S8+, and Note 8 all work. You buy them unlocked and use them on whichever carrier you want, including Sprint. That's how my Nexus 6 worked on Verizon, before I switched to T-Mobile. Verizon also uses CDMA, and they didn't have to add any IMEI into their system. You just put the activated SIM into the phone.
I could take a Verizon SIM and put it into my T-Mobile S8+ right now, and it would activate and get service.
But to answer your original question again, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CDMA UNLOCKING. The phone is either carrier unlocked, or its not. And the Verizon Note 8 is 100% carrier unlocked.
I beginning to suspect you bought a Note 8 with a bad IMEI, if you got it used.
EDIT: I MAY BE WRONG (don't tell my wife, she never hears me say that)
After doing some research on Reddit, it looks like others ran into the same issue as you. The unlocked version and the Sprint version will work, but none of the other carrier Note 8s are eligible for BYOD. Which is stupid, since they are all exactly the same hardware.
I'd try this:
Use ODIN to flash either the Unlocked 950U1 firmware, or the Sprint 950U firmware. Then place the Sprint SIM card in the phone to see if it activates upon start up. If it doesn't then you may be hosed. If that's the case, sign up for T-Mobile. LOL.
Thanks all for the useful information and help. The error they encountered is that they could not load the ESN to the Sprint PLBL database. They got error like incompatible, or unsupported device etc.
Sprint will not add other carries phone to their system. If IMEI is from Verizon it will never work with active or inactive SIM. Only way if it was factory unlocked phone bought from Samsung.
Did anyone find a solution to this? Moved to Sprint BYOD two days ago with my Verizon note8 and it won't work. The phone keeps asking for a Verizon since. I am at second Sprint repair center as I type this. Please tell me it can be fixed. Thanks.
I am in the same boat, Paid off my wife's Iphone7+ and my Note 8 with Verizon and then tried to BYOD with sprint and they are unable to activate. Verizon informed me that their devices are 100% not locked and Sprint has no clue.
You could try other carriers like straightalk or tmobile maybe even metro pcs but it will not work with sprint. They are a pain and don't allow other carrier phones on their network.
I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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you need to enter sprints apn bro then you will have 4G.
I have the reverse issue. I have the opportunity to get a good deal on a Sprint Note 8, but I want to use it on Verizon. Assuming the device is not blacklisted, would there be any issue with this? Buying a sprint-branded phone and using it on Verizon's CDMA network? Are all the bands the same? I get 3 checkmarks on willmyphonework.com (but they didn't have the Note 8 yet, just the Note 7)