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Hi all,
The only reason i have not installed a custom rom yet is because I do not want to lose the amazing moto actions. Can we use the moto actions on a custom rom in any way?
Thanks guys
Cheers
roddem said:
Hi all,
The only reason i have not installed a custom rom yet is because I do not want to lose the amazing moto actions. Can we use the moto actions on a custom rom in any way?
Thanks guys
Cheers
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I have built the actions that seem important to me as a new implementations of actions for CyanogenMod. Probably all customs ROMs are reusing that work. Look in the CM 12.0 thread for a screen shot of the options that are going to be configurable in CM 12.1.
That said, what actions to you use?
crpalmer said:
I have built the actions that seem important to me as a new implementations of actions for CyanogenMod. Probably all customs ROMs are reusing that work. Look in the CM 12.0 thread for a screen shot of the options that are going to be configurable in CM 12.1.
That said, what actions to you use?
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sorry for the late reply.
thats great. I mainly use the twist to open camera, the hand swype over the phone to check if i have any notifications. Have these been implemented?
roddem said:
sorry for the late reply.
thats great. I mainly use the twist to open camera, the hand swype over the phone to check if i have any notifications. Have these been implemented?
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Yes those are implemented. I just like to ask people what they use in case there are other useful gestures I haven't implemented (I honestly never used stock on my phone so I depend on others to give me feedback on what is useful related to stock behaviour....).
Is Moto voice the only thing that doesn't have an alternative?
Moto display?
crpalmer said:
I have built the actions that seem important to me as a new implementations of actions for CyanogenMod. Probably all customs ROMs are reusing that work. Look in the CM 12.0 thread for a screen shot of the options that are going to be configurable in CM 12.1.
That said, what actions to you use?
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Awesome man... But wat about moto display... I can't live without it... Ambient sucks!!!!
mandeepsingh said:
Awesome man... But wat about moto display... I can't live without it... Ambient sucks!!!!
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How does ambient display suck? What about moto display is awesome?
crpalmer said:
How does ambient display suck? What about moto display is awesome?
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I just don't like it.... Moto display is the best for me... I am addicted to it!
roddem said:
sorry for the late reply.
thats great. I mainly use the twist to open camera, the hand swype over the phone to check if i have any notifications. Have these been implemented?
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WOw. Thanks a lot. Do all Roms have these implementations or a few?
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How does ambient display suck? What about moto display is awesome?
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Ambient Display just wakes the screen when you get a notific. Moto Display actually wakes it every time you pick the phone up,or nudge it, which is super handy to check the time and all. I have been asking if this is possible in CM13 but so far no one has replied.
angadsingh97 said:
Ambient Display just wakes the screen when you get a notific. Moto Display actually wakes it every time you pick the phone up,or nudge it, which is super handy to check the time and all. I have been asking if this is possible in CM13 but so far no one has replied.
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Works great on CM 13.
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Works great on CM 13.
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angadsingh97 said:
Ambient Display just wakes the screen when you get a notification. Moto Display actually wakes it every time you pick the phone up,or nudge it, which is super handy to check the time and all. I have been asking if this is possible in CM13 but so far no one has replied.
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Moto Display handles notifications differently from Ambient display. See this link:
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-moto-x-active-display?_ga=1.123258498.820442600.1451317275
I prefer the way Moto Display notifies and then allows a peek at the information. I have not been able to get Ambient Display to behave the same way. I believe that Moto Display also uses the display differently from Ambient Display. Moto Display is supposed to only light the pixels required for the notification to save battery as opposed to energizing the whole display.
I wonder if the Moto Display apk can be sideloaded and installed on CM13? Moto and Moto Actions can be downloaded from the Play store but they do not include Moto Display functionality. Moto Voice can also be downloaded from the Play Store.
donslade said:
I wonder if the Moto Display apk can be sideloaded and installed on CM13? Moto and Moto Actions can be downloaded from the Play store but they do not include Moto Display functionality. Moto Voice can also be downloaded from the Play Store.
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@squid2 recently added support for Moto Camera and Gallery in CM13 for Moto E2 Otus. I can't even download Actions or Moto. Could you please ask him if it is possible for this app as well, even on Lux maybe?
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Moto Display handles notifications differently from Ambient display. See this link:
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-moto-x-active-display?_ga=1.123258498.820442600.1451317275
I prefer the way Moto Display notifies and then allows a peek at the information. I have not been able to get Ambient Display to behave the same way. I believe that Moto Display also uses the display differently from Ambient Display. Moto Display is supposed to only light the pixels required for the notification to save battery as opposed to energizing the whole display.
I wonder if the Moto Display apk can be sideloaded and installed on CM13? Moto and Moto Actions can be downloaded from the Play store but they do not include Moto Display functionality. Moto Voice can also be downloaded from the Play Store.
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noob. You can download from Play. But you can't use it on custom ROM (CM). Try yourself !
there's a flashable zip for moto display its for stock moto x 2015 but i flashed the zip on my moto x 2014 running nx rom, it seems it can work but for some reason the ambient display turns on when i turn on moto display....is there any way to fix this i guess it needs a little workaround maybe ?
but 'moto' and 'moto actions' needs to be installed as well from playstore
i've attached the flashable zip
for the IR sensors to work with moto display extract the arm.rar and paste those to files into system/lib and give root permission and reboot
i did not create this zip i found it on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63574299&postcount=2
Do you know if it work on Marshmallow Resurrection Remix ?
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Sanokko said:
Do you know if it work on Marshmallow Resurrection Remix ?
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yes it will work no doubt but i guess it needs a little workaround i fisrt tried on NX ROM....flashed the zip via and then you need to go to playstore and install moto and moto actions as well to see moto display and now i've flashed it on RR ROM, it gets installed the only thing for both of the rom is that when moto display is enabled ambient display turns on as well and that's the problem...if there was a way to disable ambient display or delete it...then i guess moto display would had triggered
it needs a little workaround to be fully functional like i said
I didn't knew moto gesture was needed. I can install it and I see the two : "motorola gesture" and "moto screen" in the home menu of the Moto app
But when i wave my hand over the device it activate the screen with the ambient display design (just the clock and notification like in the notification center (rectangular))
I don't know if i'm missing something but i'd like to help you if I can cause i miss this feature from the stock rom
I don't understand if you have both Ambient display AND Moto Display (I think it would be weird )
Oh and by the way sorry is the traduction & the English aren't perfect, i'm french and my device is in french too ..
Sanokko said:
I didn't knew moto gesture was needed. I can install it and I see the two : "motorola gesture" and "moto screen" in the home menu of the Moto app
But when i wave my hand over the device it activate the screen with the ambient display design (just the clock and notification like in the notification center (rectangular))
I don't know if i'm missing something but i'd like to help you if I can cause i miss this feature from the stock rom
I don't understand if you have both Ambient display AND Moto Display (I think it would be weird )
Oh and by the way sorry is the traduction & the English aren't perfect, i'm french and my device is in french too ..
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oh no its fine but yeah its weird i know haha but i really miss moto display i recently bought the moto x 2014 and so i flashed custom rom i can revert it back to stock android if i want but i like custom rom much more....the only thing is the moto display i want...i know it can be done...there has to be a way....and yes when hand waved enabling the moto display the ambient display turns on...i was thinking if there was a way to disable ambient display to trigger moto display and maybe something could be missing....i like moto display more than ambient display...it uses low power and also the way notifications are shown...its really good...maybe disabling ambient display would work and also maybe something is missing as well and yeah ofcourse would appreciate your help too....it seems only you and i are the only interested person on this...but hey lets get this done what you say
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oh no its fine but yeah its weird i know haha but i really miss moto display i recently bought the moto x 2014 and so i flashed custom rom i can revert it back to stock android if i want but i like custom rom much more....the only thing is the moto display i want...i know it can be done...there has to be a way....and yes when hand waved enabling the moto display the ambient display turns on...i was thinking if there was a way to disable ambient display to trigger moto display and maybe something could be missing....i like moto display more than ambient display...it uses low power and also the way notifications are shown...its really good...maybe disabling ambient display would work and also maybe something is missing as well and yeah ofcourse would appreciate your help too....it seems only you and i are the only interested person on this...but hey lets get this done what you say
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I've exacty the same point of view
No I don't think we're alone ... I hope more people will see this topic. Maybe you can contact Megatron (author of the RR topic where you answered me first) ?
but moto gesture is not needed i just installed it from play store to see if its working...and yes it does works only the chop chop gesture but i have turned it off as custom roms already has that feature
Sanokko said:
I've exacty the same point of view
No I don't think we're alone ... I hope more people will see this topic. Maybe you can contact Megatron (author of the RR topic where you answered me first) ?
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yeah i can do that but how will i contact the author of the rom ?? can you tell him this instead....or i was also thinking that on the next build of rr rom for moto x 2014 the ambient display should be removed and there should be moto display instead ?
and i also have libactions_irservice_stm.so file all those if its needed
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yeah i can do that but how will i contact the author of the rom ?? can you tell him this instead....or i was also thinking that on the next build of rr rom for moto x 2014 the ambient display should be removed and there should be moto display instead ?
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I''ll try to contact him this evening (in 8hours, it's 9:27AM right now and i'm at work )
I think it would be cool if it's included in the next build !
Sanokko said:
I''ll try to contact him this evening (in 8hours, it's 9:27AM right now and i'm at work )
I think it would be cool if it's included in the next build !
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yeah okay then great :good: even if its not included in the next build it would be nice if a dev could fix this and make it a flashable zip, but really want moto display
songs354 said:
yeah okay then great :good: even if its not included in the next build it would be nice if a dev could fix this and make it a flashable zip, but really want moto display
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Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=12952#featureRequests
Sanokko said:
Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=12952#featureRequests
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okay cool thanks :good: now lets hope for that
Oh and BTW, how did you past the two ARM files in /system/lib ? I'm using ES and it say "This library is read only" .. :/
Sorry, nood question. It's done !
Sanokko said:
Oh and BTW, how did you past the two ARM files in /system/lib ? I'm using ES and it say "This library is read only" .. :/
Sorry, nood question. It's done !
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oh you have to enable root explorer swipe from left to right in your es file explorer scroll down and enable root explorer it will then ask you for permission grant it and then copy those two lib file in your system/lib and paste there and give root permission
but still it doesn't works even after giving root permission to those two files maybe something is missing or could be due to ambient display
songs354 said:
but still it doesn't works even after giving root permission to those two files maybe something is missing or could be due to ambient display
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Well, it's not working .. :/
Our fate is in, the hands of Megatron007 now ..
Sanokko said:
Well, it's not working .. :/
Our fate is in, the hands of Megatron007 now ..
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yeah lets hope for that for now
but you can check the screenshots below and you need to have root access and give root permission to those files
songs354 said:
yeah lets hope for that for now
but you can check the screenshots below and you need to have root access and give root permission to those files
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So I just happened to come across this thread, interesting that it seems to work with the stock version of the MotoDisplay APK... (it hasn't been modified or anything)
Does the NX Rom have a custom APK to determine if the proximity sensor has been tripped (I know the CM rom's have this)? If so, then it could be that which is triggering the Active Display, and you would just change it to calling the MotoDisplay methods instead...
mastarifla said:
So I just happened to come across this thread, interesting that it seems to work with the stock version of the MotoDisplay APK... (it hasn't been modified or anything)
Does the NX Rom have a custom APK to determine if the proximity sensor has been tripped (I know the CM rom's have this)? If so, then it could be that which is triggering the Active Display, and you would just change it to calling the MotoDisplay methods instead...
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all the custom roms including NX rom or RR rom has ambient display feature, when moto display enabled the ambient display turns on as well and so ambient display triggers but if i go into settings and disable ambient display it seems that the IR sensors does not work with moto display, the IR sensors are linked to display, i think we are missing something here if we could turn on those IR sensors with a file or lib/IR sensors service libs or if we could link those sensors with moto display then disabling ambeint display may work with moto display when hand waved, also yesterday i tried an app called active notify, enabling ambient display and active notify works when active notify is set as default lockscreen while disabling the ambient display does not works as the IR sensors turns off. So i think that if we can somehow link those IR sensors with moto display then i guess it will get the job done
I was asking myself, did you take a look of other forums like MotoG2 (even if it don't has an Amoled screen, the forum is really active) or MotoX Pure/style/play ? Maybe someone tried to port the Moto display feature on other phones.
Is it possible to have the original apps extracted from stock rom and make them work on a custom rom?
There are many custom roms around but the MM ones are based on CM and such and doesn't contain those apps.
Anyone, please ?
rezehelius said:
Is it possible to have the original apps extracted from stock rom and make them work on a custom rom?
There are many custom roms around but the MM ones are based on CM and such and doesn't contain those apps.
Anyone, please ?
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You are asking for something that has long been solved, for over a year now.
@bhb27 has flags that allow you to install most of the original Moto apps from the Google Play store. That way you can have only the apps you want and not a lot of bloatware.
Even back on Lollipop, Resurrection Remix had most Moto Apps that you want. And that method carried forward on Marshmallow.
RESURRECTION REMIX - MARSHMALLOW
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Motorola Apps:
I have included on the ROM the motorola-specific play store props and permissions allowing the user to install Moto apps via Playstore…
here the list:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Be Aware some app will not work
I have not tested Gallery because it conflict with theme app (please use another gallery app like QuickPick It gets integrated by camera app just like the default gallery.
Moto email, it install but doesn't let use the app.
Moto voice, it just not install.
All the rest available Moto app seems to be working.
Be aware I will try to fix this app on the future but i don't give any prediction of when, this is not my priority this is a CyanogemMod base ROM not a Motorola or google , any user can use google and search a way to fix this problem, if any one do let me know I will check and made the change so every one can have all available apps working.
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Newer ROMs also copy this this method:
BLISS ROM- MARSHMALLOW
NepoRood said:
Managed to get most of the Motorola apps available in the play store :good:
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Even the unofficial CM13 (hybrid of CM13 and RR) by @calsurferpunk has that.
[CM 13.0 Unofficial][6.0.1]
ChazzMatt said:
does this ROM have the Google Store Moto app download permissions like Resurrection Remix?
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Andrey G. said:
Yes, tested the ROM with normally downloaded from GP MotoCamera and MotoGallery..
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So, that's at least THREE Quark MM ROMs based on CM that have Moto Apps. You didn't look very hard, did you?
And in compiling this answer for you, it seems you have an issue with ONE ROM. And the same @bhb27 who does both RR and Mokee helped you:
MOKEE
rezehelius said:
I love the room and features but would it be possible to export or somehow make a package of gapps with Motorola apps as for example camera from droid turbo can't be installed from play store.
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bhb27 said:
I add all Moto app play permission to RR, but this is a Official version and official are base on stock CM...
you can copy and make a zip with the below permission, or place it manually...
https://github.com/bhb27/device_motorola_quark/tree/RR-M/permissions
they need to be in system/etc/permissions
and have 644 permission...
then reboot and go to play...
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So, basically you just wanted this for Mokee but said no ROMs based on CM had it...
ChazzMatt said:
You are asking for something that has long been solved, for over a year now.
@bhb27 has flags that allow you to install most of the original Moto apps from the Google Play store. That way you can have only the apps you want and not a lot of bloatware.
Even back on Lollipop, Resurrection Remix had most Moto Apps that you want. And that method carried forward on Marshmallow.
RESURRECTION REMIX - MARSHMALLOW
Newer ROMs also copy this this method:
BLISS ROM- MARSHMALLOW
Even the unofficial CM13 (hybrid of CM13 and RR) by @calsurferpunk has that.
[CM 13.0 Unofficial][6.0.1]
So, that's at least THREE Quark MM ROMs based on CM that have Moto Apps. You didn't look very hard, did you?
And in compiling this answer for you, it seems you have an issue with ONE ROM. And the same @bhb27 who does both RR and Mokee helped you:
MOKEE
So, basically you just wanted this for Mokee but said no ROMs based on CM had it...
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Sorry about assumptions but they didn't specify all the apps included. I thought these should come with gapps package. My bad then.
I just didn't want to get all sort of different roms and see which one is best but I see this might be best option.
I'll give them a go.
Thanks for your help.
The only thing missing for me from stock is Moto Display. Yes, I know Ambient Display functions similar but Moto Display is NOT a lockscreen. It is just an app that runs while the screen is off.
I don't know how many people use this, but I like to keep a pattern lock (can be PIN, etc) and use the lockscreen quick setting toggle to set the lockscreen off. So its either press the power button and get locksreen or get home screen.
However, I have no way of knowing if I have a notification if my lockscreen is off. With Moto Display, it told me whether my lockscreen is on or off. I have since used Tasker to utilize the charging LED for notification but I still dream of Moto Display on custom ROMs. Devs have done a great job with bringing most of the features over though. I love the chop chop and twist gestures.
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The only thing missing for me from stock is Moto Display. Yes, I know Ambient Display functions similar but Moto Display is NOT a lockscreen. It is just an app that runs while the screen is off.
I don't know how many people use this, but I like to keep a pattern lock (can be PIN, etc) and use the lock-screen quick setting toggle to set the lockscreen off. So its either press the power button and get lock-screen or get home screen.
However, I have no way of knowing if I have a notification if my lockscreen is off. With Moto Display, it told me whether my lockscreen is on or off. I have since used Tasker to utilize the charging LED for notification but I still dream of Moto Display on custom ROMs. Devs have done a great job with bringing most of the features over though. I love the chop chop and twist gestures.
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Quark Ambient Display works better than Moto Display, in my opinion. If you don't like it, you can always go back to stock ROM or even @iiWoodstocK Marshmallow stock-based ROM (which works on all Quarks). This has been discussed ad infinitum.
I also use a pattern lock as does my wife, and we have no issues. So, apparently you just don't have your phone configured correctly?
I'll give you some free advice:
However, I have no way of knowing if I have a notification if my lock-screen is off.
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If your lock-screen is OFF, then your display is active. If your display is active, why do you need Moto Display/Ambient Display?
Here's the question... Why is your display off, and your screen is not locked?
I see no advantage to the complicated configuration you described and I barely understand. You are already using a pattern lock -- but for some reason you are purposefully keeping your screen unlocked even when the display is off/asleep?
If your display is off (screen is dark/asleep), your screen should be locked. If it's not, you don't have it configured correctly. Set it to lock the screen IMMEDIATELY when the display is off (goes to sleep). THE END.
If your screen is off and locked, you have every functionality and more with Ambient Display as Moto Display.
You then use your security pattern to unlock the screen when you need it and make the display active (turned on/not asleep).
And if your screen is unlocked and ACTIVE and turned on, then you have no need for Moto Display/Ambient Display during that time because your notifications are at the top in the Notification Bar.
I see no need for a dark (asleep) screen, yet unlocked display. So, your complaint makes no sense. It's like wanting to keep your car in "Drive", yet complaining when you take your foot off the brakes the car starts moving. If the car is not going anywhere, put it in "Park"!
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The only thing missing for me from stock is Moto Display. Yes, I know Ambient Display functions similar but Moto Display is NOT a lockscreen. It is just an app that runs while the screen is off.
I don't know how many people use this, but I like to keep a pattern lock (can be PIN, etc) and use the lockscreen quick setting toggle to set the lockscreen off. So its either press the power button and get locksreen or get home screen.
However, I have no way of knowing if I have a notification if my lockscreen is off. With Moto Display, it told me whether my lockscreen is on or off. I have since used Tasker to utilize the charging LED for notification but I still dream of Moto Display on custom ROMs. Devs have done a great job with bringing most of the features over though. I love the chop chop and twist gestures.
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My thoughts exactly!!! I love everything about this rom...the one thing missing is Moto Display. Specifically i want....
When i touch the phone to show the time. This doesn't work on the rom. I have to actually click the power button to bring the screen on. I want my "tap for the time" feature back.
I'm planning to backup this rom and try the other one (stock 6.0) but i dont think i will like it as much. Wish we could get this functionality somehow in the Resurrection Remix ROM (that's what I'm using, sorry, just realized i didn't mention that, lol).
BriCo84 said:
My thoughts exactly!!! I love everything about this rom...the one thing missing is Moto Display. Specifically i want....
When i touch the phone to show the time. This doesn't work on the rom. I have to actually click the power button to bring the screen on. I want my "tap for the time" feature back.
I'm planning to backup this rom and try the other one (stock 6.0) but i dont think i will like it as much. Wish we could get this functionality somehow in the Resurrection Remix ROM (that's what I'm using, sorry, just realized i didn't mention that, lol).
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WE HAVE THAT FUNCTIONALITY.
WE HAVE EVEN BETTER THAN THAT FUNCTIONALITY.
You have something set wrong, then. When I wave my hand over the phone, I see the time. I'm not touching the power button. I'm using the IR sensors and Quark Ambient Display. You don't have to touch the display at all. You must have the wave and pickup settings turned off? Sounds like you have just turned on Ambient Display master switch but haven't configured Gestures to control what Ambient Display actually does?
You keep saying "the ROM". What ROM? Oh, I see now RR.
I'm on Marshmallow RR, but before that CM12.1 (and my wife is still on that). Quark Ambient Display works great to see the time by just waving your hand over the phone. Works even about 12 inches up.
Set up your Ambient Display correctly and stop complaining.
Here's an earlier post to show you how to configure your Ambient Display.
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lonewitness said:
Anyone know how I can get gestures for camera and flashlight to work with CM?
Also moto display?
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FIRST, Gestures for Camera and Flashlight are in Settings/Gestures. You will see them in the screenshots below, but they are not highlighted. The highlighted boxes are for your Moto Display question. But if you scroll down you will see the double twist and chop chop in the Gestures screenshot. Go into those and activate camera and flashlight.
SECOND, Ambient Display in the Quarks = Moto Display. Dev made sure it works quite well with our IR sensors. Ambient Display in our Quarks works differently from regular Android Ambient Display. The dev made it work very much like Moto Display, even though it's still called Ambient Display.
There's 3 settings pages where you enable options to make it all work together, however.
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In Lock Screen, you need to have some sort of of screen lock, even if it's just swipe/slide lock. Either swipe, pattern or PIN. You can't choose "none". I choose pattern, but it's up to you.
IF you choose swipe, you may accidentally unlock your phone if you keep it in your pocket. Pin or pattern is better, in my opinion.
Also, helps if you have "Automatically Lock" and "Power Button Instantly Locks" Some people put a delay on those for some reason, and then Ambient Display isn't going to show you notifications on the dark screen because the Display isn't actually locked.
Thank you for the very helpful info, although there was no reason to get pissed at me just because I got something wrong. Well technically not wrong, just a different way of setting up the phone....
After a few days of playing with this and researching (this is my first time on any quark roms other than stock, and first experience with MM, so in turn ambient display), i determined i was not seeing the desired behaivior because i dont lock my phone. Apparently (and i see you noted this at the bottom of your post) if you don't have the phone lock, the wave, or tap, to show time doesn't work. Unfortunately for me, this is how i like my phone set up, and with Moto Display this worked fine. With Ambient Display, whether its by design, or a flaw, does not have this functionality.
If there is a way to add this functionality please let me know, as it is the only thing missing. i love ambient display so far other than that.
Thanks again for your help
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WE HAVE THAT FUNCTIONALITY.
WE HAVE EVEN BETTER THAN THAT FUNCTIONALITY.
You have something set wrong, then. When I wave my hand over the phone, I see the time. I'm not touching the power button. I'm using the IR sensors and Quark Ambient Display. You don't have to touch the display at all. You must have the wave and pickup settings turned off? Sounds like you have just turned on Ambient Display master switch but haven't configured Gestures to control what Ambient Display actually does?
You keep saying "the ROM". What ROM? Oh, I see now RR.
I'm on Marshmallow RR, but before that CM12.1 (and my wife is still on that). Quark Ambient Display works great to see the time by just waving your hand over the phone. Works even about 12 inches up.
Set up your Ambient Display correctly and stop complaining, when it's your fault.
Here's an earlier post to show you how to configure your Ambient Display.
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FIRST, Gestures for Camera and Flashlight are in Settings/Gestures. You will see them in the screenshots below, but they are not highlighted. The highlighted boxes are for your Moto Display question. But if you scroll down you will see the double twist and chop chop in the Gestures screenshot. Go into those and activate camera and flashlight.
SECOND, Ambient Display in the Quarks = Moto Display. Dev made sure it works quite well with our IR sensors. Ambient Display in our Quarks works differently from regular Android Ambient Display. The dev made it work very much like Moto Display, even though it's still called Ambient Display.
There's 3 settings pages where you enable options to make it all work together, however.
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In Lock Screen, you need to have some sort of of screen lock, even if it's just swipe/slide lock. Either swipe, pattern or PIN. You can't choose "none".
Also, helps if you have "Automatically Lock" and "Power Button Instantly Locks" Some people put a delay on those for some reason, and then Ambient Display isn't going to show you notifications on the dark screen because the Display isn't actually locked.
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BriCo84 said:
Thank you for the very helpful info, although there was no reason to get pissed at me just because I got something wrong. Well technically not wrong, just a different way of setting up the phone....
After a few days of playing with this and researching (this is my first time on any quark roms other than stock, and first experience with MM, so in turn ambient display), i determined i was not seeing the desired behaivior because i dont lock my phone. Apparently (and i see you noted this at the bottom of your post) if you don't have the phone lock, the wave, or tap, to show time doesn't work. Unfortunately for me, this is how i like my phone set up, and with Moto Display this worked fine. With Ambient Display, whether its by design, or a flaw, does not have this functionality.
If there is a way to add this functionality please let me know, as it is the only thing missing. i love ambient display so far other than that.
Thanks again for your help
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Sorry for the tone. It's just this has been discussed incessantly and most times it's because people don't bother looking at what's already been done.
To prove my point, I also extensively referenced the lock screen in my previous post to the other guy, before you even posted. I was merely repeating myself in my post to you. Why did you finally realize it when I repeated myself?
My point was if your screen is dark, it should be locked. And Ambient Display will work fine. This was my post just above your first post in this thread:
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If your lock-screen is OFF, then your display is active. If your display is active, why do you need Moto Display/Ambient Display?
Here's the question... Why is your display off, and your screen is not locked?
If your display is off (screen is dark/asleep), your screen should be locked. If it's not, you don't have it configured correctly. Set it to lock the screen IMMEDIATELY when the display is off (goes to sleep). THE END.
If your screen is off and locked, you have every functionality and more with Ambient Display as Moto Display.
You then use your security pattern to unlock the screen when you need it and make the display active (turned on/not asleep).
And if your screen is unlocked and ACTIVE and turned on, then you have no need for Moto Display/Ambient Display during that time because your notifications are at the top in the Notification Bar.
I see no need for a dark (asleep) screen, yet unlocked display. So, your complaint makes no sense. It's like wanting to keep your car in "Drive", yet complaining when you take your foot off the brakes the car starts moving. If the car is not going anywhere, put it in "Park"!
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Yes, Ambient Display is a lock-screen notification system.
That post content I re-posted was from March 2016, and it was only the most recent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66024940&postcount=225
I've posted that or similar maybe two dozen times over the past two years.
This phone has been released for two years now -- not just the Droid Turbo, but all the models in the Quark series. They all have the same hardware and same specs, same stock Motorola software.
However the Droid Turbo owners lost a year of development because the bootloader was not unlocked until November 2015. (the other Quarks have free immediate bootloader unlock on request). And although the Droid Turbo owners had access to READ about the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo development, they got mad (because they didn't want to see dev work they couldn't have) and demanded the forums be split.
We used to be ONE forum, but in late September 2015 the forums were split. Less than two months later Sunshine team unlocked the Droid Turbo bootloader.
As a result, many Droid Turbo owners still don't realize about the OTHER Quark forum and aren't as informed/educated about what all has been developed.
Moto Display itself is proprietary code and will never be "ported". The Quark CM dev put a lot of effort into adapting "Android" Ambient Display into using the Quark Moto IR sensors so it mimicked Moto Display as much as possible. In some cases, it's even better. But yes, it still is a lock screen notification system.
The RR dev @bhb27 was the first to put in permission flags to allow access to most Moto apps, if you want them. Almost all. That was also before the Droid Turbo bootloader was ever unlocked.
At this point, two years into development, there's really nothing else that is going to be done in this category that has not already been done. A whole lot has been done! Most people who are asking (not you personally, but collective) are just coming onto the scene with their Droid Turbos do not really understand the extensive custom dev work we have already for the Quark. Part is they are a year behind, maybe they are just now realizing Sunshine is available or they don't know about the other forum.
I want to upgrade my Moto X 2014 to android N but without losing his functions, and with an AOSP rom (can be CM based too)
We should stick a post on this matter, because people are either unable to read or too lazy to search.
There's basically four Moto features:
TWIST TO CAMERA: working in all ROMs (however, Moto Camera doesn't work with DPI other than 480)
CHOP TO TORCH: working in all ROMs
MOTO VOICE: NOT available, it's closed source so we have to manually tweak Google Now/Assistant to recognize our voice from a LOCKED, UNPLUGGED phone (see XDA homepage for a guide on this)
MOTO DISPLAY: NOT available, there's a modified Ambient Display that uses the same sensors (including IR, of course) and it works pretty well.
However, Moto and Ambient are NOT the same thing: Moto is a dedicated app which shows your notifications in a streamlined way and it will keep them in the panel even if you swipe them out of sight; moreover, it will not wake your entire screen if you touch the black area outside the clock/notifications.
Ambient Display, on the other hand, is simply a grayscale lockscreen. It's not nearly as practical as Moto, but the sensors to activate it are the same.
Can someone please make this post a sticky so people do not ask the same questions a hundred more times?
Why ambient display on pick up doesn't work on custom roms?
rom makers should really implement this feature because it's really important. also double tap to wake would be nice or a way to completely get rid of the lockscreen. options are always welcome.
Working fine in CosmicOS
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Why ambient display on pick up doesn't work on custom roms?
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I used many Roms:scared,bootlegger,PE,aex,rr,cosmic,aosip and always ambient display worked
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I used many Roms:scared,bootlegger,PE,aex,rr,cosmic,aosip and always ambient display worked
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I meant the pick up to show the ambient display, Its not working on RR and AEX I tried