[Suggestion] Can we combine the OnePlus 3 and OnePlus 3T forums?

[Suggestion] Can we combine the OnePlus 3 and OnePlus 3T forums? - OnePlus 3 Guides, News, & Discussion

My suggestion is to combine the OnePlus 3 and OnePlus 3T forums. Unless the differences between these two devices are extreme (which we have seen are not), I believe it would be beneficial to the whole community to have one forum, under which they can communicate and contribute. This will also help with future support and development of both devices. Most of the subforums will be the same anyway, e.g. Guides, News, & Discussion; Themes, Apps, and Mods; Accessories. So it doesn't make sense to create two separate forums.
What does the community think?

i dont know if its really a good idea. if it can use the same rom why not but otherwise maybe there is some people going to try 3t rom and brick there phone and would cry on dev.

Lolteee said:
i dont know if its really a good idea. if it can use the same rom why not but otherwise maybe there is some people going to try 3t rom and brick there phone and would cry on dev.
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That's a valid point, but I believe having separate subforums for OP3 and OP3T ROMs would solve that issue. There is no need to create two separate forums and divide/fragment the community further. Having one big forum would be more useful in finding answers to questions and have good discussions.

Agree with this suggestion - the ROM should be the same for both but kernel may vary, which can easily be broken out into individual sub forums

In an ideal world, I think your suggestion is good and valid.
Maybe a developer can comment on how similar these devices truly are? If the conversion of a rom from one to the other is easy, I'd say combine the forums. If not, better keeping things separate.

Good idea. (As a user...)

Yes im for this. Just 2 subforums for the 3t and normal 3 development and one unified 3/3t development subforum.
I think rom developers can bring out one rom for both devices and you can choose what device you have in aroma, like it is on s6 and s6 edge. One rom for both devices and you have to choose what device you have in aroma when you flash the rom

I agree on using the same Q&A, Guides, dev forums for both and separate only on ROMs. Such scheme is used in the Samsung i9300/i9305 forum so why not recreate that.
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Why not? The S3 had its LTE variant with 2GB RAM as another sub forum. It shouldn't be too bad.

No.

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XDA, What's the problem...

Hy all developer of this forum.
One question is on my mind about this section :
What's the problem with acer liquid?
Why no one is cooking roms for this smartphone? This is a best seller phone, and many peoples acclaim development for it.
If not, this section will remain a copy of another site, and so useless for the community.

I think when you're late to the party, people get rooted into sites that are originally more popular for that particular device. Besides, XDA is known for HTC devices, so it's not unreasonable for others to not come here.

What Bellanano says is true. When the Acer Liquid thread opened, we expected great things from the XDA developers, but that wasn't

bellanano said:
Hy all developer of this forum.
One question is on my mind about this section :
What's the problem with acer liquid?
Why no one is cooking roms for this smartphone? This is a best seller phone, and many peoples acclaim development for it.
If not, this section will remain a copy of another site, and so useless for the community.
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yep....i agree

bellanano said:
Hy all developer of this forum.
One question is on my mind about this section :
What's the problem with acer liquid?
Why no one is cooking roms for this smartphone? This is a best seller phone, and many peoples acclaim development for it.
If not, this section will remain a copy of another site, and so useless for the community.
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I too was hoping for a development of xda for this device

If You want custom ROMs that much, it's time to learn cooking, so You can see how much time it needs, and that some things are not that easy like on first view.
And if you just thought that when Liquid forum will be opened, new ROMs will magically appear -
That's all I had to say.
Cheers

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bellanano said:
Hy all developer of this forum.
One question is on my mind about this section :
What's the problem with acer liquid?
Why no one is cooking roms for this smartphone? This is a best seller phone, and many peoples acclaim development for it.
If not, this section will remain a copy of another site, and so useless for the community.
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Acer Liquid isn't as widely sold. My own phone in an import from the UK and would be of perhaps a few dozen that have found their way to New Zealand.
I have no idea what Acer isn't pushing the phone globally. But they aren't. Maybe they are using this phone as a way to test their sales / support and delivery systems in an area new to them: phones.

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I thought ports go into Original Development section...
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..

Prawesome said:
I thought ports go into Original Development section...
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
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Nope, because ports aren't original, now are they?

jacklebott said:
Nope, because ports aren't original, now are they?
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Though not completely...Here goes
The announcement included this
The following are most likely “Original Development”:
Official releases of highly original and upstream customROMs(built fromthe ground up with significant original development within them Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person. Asignificant “first” in development for a device.Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.
Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are notsimply pulled fromother kernels already available.Some element of original work is expected.
Tools and utilities with a clear purpose,and which are well-made,anduseful to users.They should have an element of originality,either inpurpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
Significant portof a ROM from one device to another, givingenhanced features or functionality to users of the targetdevice.The port should be beneficial (a port fromtwo virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits fromthis, as it’s notdevelopment)
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I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..

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Though not completely...Here goes
The announcement included this
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
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Seems like maybe it's a case by case deal, then.

Prawesome said:
I thought ports go into Original Development section...
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
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As jacklebott said, it is case-by-case.
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I dunno about anyone else, but this is just getting me more excited for this device. This weekend can't go by fast enough!

Hey guys,
I'm very excited to be here and I cant wait to get my hands on this device. I have one question.... more so for clarification than anything else.
Currently, I compile AOKP from source for Maguro and Toroplus then I cherry pick and add in my own changed like bootanimation ect ect...
I planned to do similar work with the Nexus4. Would that type of work be allowed into the dev subforums?

shalkith said:
Hey guys,
I'm very excited to be here and I cant wait to get my hands on this device. I have one question.... more so for clarification than anything else.
Currently, I compile AOKP from source for Maguro and Toroplus then I cherry pick and add in my own changed like bootanimation ect ect...
I planned to do similar work with the Nexus4. Would that type of work be allowed into the dev subforums?
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Yes. Not in Original Development, but in Development yes.
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Great to have you here efrant

Wow, looking through the general section. Mods got this place locked down :good:
Seriously, I like that, hate all the clutter.
Referring by the way, to all the excess threads locked out.

hey guys,
not getting my n4 just yet - over xmas but shall be keeping an eye out and looking forward to being a part of the nexus family as a nexnoob :laugh:

Noooooo not efrant lol
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hey efrant,
why do we need an "original android development" and an "android development"? This has never been an issue with nexus devices.
I understand, for instance, on a samsung device where there is one touchwiz modded rom after another.
on a nexus device, it is ALL original.

ogdobber said:
hey efrant,
why do we need an "original android development" and an "android development"? This has never been an issue with nexus devices.
I understand, for instance, on a samsung device where there is one touchwiz modded rom after another.
on a nexus device, it is ALL original.
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Even though we have the full source available, not everything built on that source would be considered "original", despite it being built from source. It has been decided that for something to be "original", it has to be significantly different than what is available. Syncing the AOSP repo, making a couple of changes and then building is not considered "original" for XDA purposes.
Please have a look at this for more clarification.

efrant said:
Even though we have the full source available, not everything built on that source would be considered "original", despite it being built from source. It has been decided that for something to be "original", it has to be significantly different than what is available. Syncing the AOSP repo, making a couple of changes and then building is not considered "original" for XDA purposes.
Please have a look at this for more clarification.
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i agree, but it is not a problem... with the galaxy s2 (where original development originated) it was a huge problem and the development thread was cluttered. it is a great idea for devices of this nature (touchwiz)
But if someone forks cm, cherry picks what they want, and maybe adds a few things of there own...it is still not original, even though it is built from source
(no touchwiz roms are built from source)<<< I know you know this but for people reading that might not*
So with the nexus 4, in original development we are going to have 3 roms (aokp, cm and miui) then kernels and a few misc threads
anyways, seems like a waste. and a solution to a problem that doesn't exist
see <galaxy nexus forum, nexus s forum, nexus one forum>

ogdobber said:
i agree, but it is not a problem... with the galaxy s2 (where original development originated) it was a huge problem and the development thread was cluttered. it is a great idea for devices of this nature (touchwiz)
But if someone forks cm, cherry picks what they want, and maybe adds a few things of there own...it is still not original, even though it is built from source
(no touchwiz roms are built from source)<<< I know you know this but for people reading that might not*
So with the nexus 4, in original development we are going to have 3 roms (aokp, cm and miui) then kernels and a few misc threads
anyways, seems like a waste. and a solution to a problem that doesn't exist
see <galaxy nexus forum, nexus s forum, nexus one forum>
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I agree to a certain extent, and your right, there won't be many ROMs in the Original Development section. (Hopefully there will be more dev discussion threads, which I will certainly allow -- assuming that there is some sort of original development going on. See this and this as examples.)
I spend a lot of time in the GNex forum, and in there, you see tons of very similar ROMs, e.g., deodexed stock ROMs, stock ROMs with busybox, etc., etc. By having an Original Dev section, it will separate those from the real "original" ROMs. And yes, it may not be needed, but it doesn't hurt.
In any case, it was a policy that was implemented site-wide for all new devices.

L720T sub forum petition

I am requesting an official Sub-Forum for the Sprint Galaxy S4 Tri-Band.
While most roms work from the original variant, None of them support the radio correctly. As an example, using any kernel on stock TW will kill the radio, and users have to search and wade through the SPH-L720 forums to find info/files for our device.
A sub forum with the requirement of supporting the Tri-band version would be helpful to the Sprint S4 community, as it would stop much of the confusion of using the same forum, when it is not the same device. I also believe it would help gather more attention for what is now the standard sprint S4.
P.S. I have posted this in the appropriate thread, I just want to see how much of you want the same thing.

in on this

zeruth said:
I am requesting an official Sub-Forum for the Sprint Galaxy S4 Tri-Band.
While most roms work from the original variant, None of them support the radio correctly. As an example, using any kernel on stock TW will kill the radio, and users have to search and wade through the SPH-L720 forums to find info/files for our device.
A sub forum with the requirement of supporting the Tri-band version would be helpful to the Sprint S4 community, as it would stop much of the confusion of using the same forum, when it is not the same device. I also believe it would help gather more attention for what is now the standard sprint S4.
P.S. I have posted this in the appropriate thread, I just want to see how much of you want the same thing.
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Absolutely!
We have needed this for quite some time now... Just having a thread or a few is not enough, come on XDA Administration, don't you think it has been long overdue?

I would like a sub forum for it.

Agreed, I realize it is a pain to setup for a small(?) Amount of users, but it would be much more convenient to locate information on my phone.

Sorry guys. This will not happen. What needs to be done is ROM developers need to properly label in their titles or OPs whether the tri-band is properly supported. As stated the same ROMs flash and do not cause bricks so there is no danger therefore no needed extra forum.

It's not just ROMS, it's also T specific tweaks.
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VandyCWG said:
It's not just ROMS, it's also T specific tweaks.
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Which can be made into a flashable zip....point is, there is no danger to either version. This is a development site and people should understand what they are flashing on their phone. As mentioned...ask that developers properly label their OP or thread title whether or not tri-band is supported.

KennyG123 said:
Which can be made into a flashable zip....point is, there is no danger to either version. This is a development site and people should understand what they are flashing on their phone. As mentioned...ask that developers properly label their OP or thread title whether or not tri-band is supported.
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No disrespect to you, but I think you are missing the point as to why have a sub forum with-in this forum. There are so many questions throughout this forum now that are mixed in with other threads and digging through to find the information is a challenge for anyone new. A lot of the questions for the T version become un-answered. If there were a place where all the threads could be in one place that would be great! Besides it would not be hard for it to be added. The only reason I could think of is if no one wanted to mod the section to keep people in check.

Sezmar said:
No disrespect to you, but I think you are missing the point as to why have a sub forum with-in this forum. There are so many questions throughout this forum now that are mixed in with other threads and digging through to find the information is a challenge for anyone new. A lot of the questions for the T version become un-answered. If there were a place where all the threads could be in one place that would be great! Besides it would not be hard for it to be added. The only reason I could think of is if no one wanted to mod the section to keep people in check.
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Moderation is not an issue at all. It would just be included in the US Samsung team of 48 existing devices. I think the point is being missed that there is not enough differences in hardware to warrant it as 99% of the work is compatible and the only issues will be not taking full advantage of the tri-band spectrum. Look at the Galaxy Nexus forum. There is an international device and a Sprint CDMA device sharing the same forum just fine. The only difference is that the international ROMs WILL brick the Sprint device so another development subforum was added. In this case all you would need to do is flash a compatible ROM. Add to that this is not the place to ask for more device forums. It is here. But as I said, I can guarantee it will be denied based on the reasons I already stated.
The only T specific questions that I would expect to see are issues with tri-band connectivity (welcome to Sprint) and what ROMs are T-friendly. If the ROM threads are properly titled then there would be no need for the last question.

KennyG123 said:
Moderation is not an issue at all. It would just be included in the US Samsung team of 48 existing devices. I think the point is being missed that there is not enough differences in hardware to warrant it as 99% of the work is compatible and the only issues will be not taking full advantage of the tri-band spectrum. Look at the Galaxy Nexus forum. There is an international device and a Sprint CDMA device sharing the same forum just fine. The only difference is that the international ROMs WILL brick the Sprint device so another development subforum was added. In this case all you would need to do is flash a compatible ROM. Add to that this is not the place to ask for more device forums. It is here. But as I said, I can guarantee it will be denied based on the reasons I already stated.
The only T specific questions that I would expect to see are issues with tri-band connectivity (welcome to Sprint) and what ROMs are T-friendly. If the ROM threads are properly titled then there would be no need for the last question.
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The only problem with that theory is that MOST GS4 owners have the earlier version. So they can't add Tri Band support to their rom.
This sub forum would be a place where you KNOW everything has Tri Band.
It would actually push developers to support Tri Band because currently nobody does.
My main point being is that it wouldn't hurt anyone. It would only help those of us that have the upgraded model.
Also TW Kernels break the radio on stock. JS

zeruth said:
The only problem with that theory is that MOST GS4 owners have the earlier version. So they can't add Tri Band support to their rom.
This sub forum would be a place where you KNOW everything has Tri Band.
It would actually push developers to support Tri Band because currently nobody does.
My main point being is that it wouldn't hurt anyone. It would only help those of us that have the upgraded model.
Also TW Kernels break the radio on stock. JS
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I gave you the link to where you can post your request. My point is that devices with similar hardware do not get their own forum. It does not get done unless there is potential for damage to the other device...there isn't. You can flash any ROM on either device. If you realize you are one of the few with a tri-band phone and your LTE isn't working you would simply flash a ROM that does support it. Unless you can show that there is a potential for damage then you will have to read the OP of the ROMs you are choosing to flash on your $700 device..sounds like something everyone should be doing.

KennyG123 said:
I gave you the link to where you can post your request. My point is that devices with similar hardware do not get their own forum. It does not get done unless there is potential for damage to the other device...there isn't. You can flash any ROM on either device. If you realize you are one of the few with a tri-band phone and your LTE isn't working you would simply flash a ROM that does support it. Unless you can show that there is a potential for damage then you will have to read the OP of the ROMs you are choosing to flash on your $700 device..sounds like something everyone should be doing.
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Already posted in the thread for forum requests. Before I made this thread actually.
This is to spread awareness that it should be done, and by the poll i think most people agree.
It's like Cyanogenmod. you don't have an official build until EVERY hardware feature is supported.
I really don't get why anyone would have anything against this change. it doesn't hurt the website, it doesn't hurt the regular L720 forum.
It benefits the community. which i'm pretty sure is what this website is about.

zeruth said:
Already posted in the thread for forum requests. Before I made this thread actually.
This is to spread awareness that it should be done, and by the poll i think most people agree.
It's like Cyanogenmod. you don't have an official build until EVERY hardware feature is supported.
I really don't get why anyone would have anything against this change. it doesn't hurt the website, it doesn't hurt the regular L720 forum.
It benefits the community. which i'm pretty sure is what this website is about.
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Actually this is a development site created by developers for developers. It is not a support site. As for your poll of 13 votes, it is kind of biased as only people with that device are voting...not much difference in asking a teenager "Do you want your own room." I hardly think 13 people are going to sway admin to start a new precedent. You don't seem to understand that there are MANY devices with more than one release of a hardware variant. As it is now members go to the wrong S4 forum. Look at the big picture for once..imagine a site with another 1000 forums due to slight hardware vbariances...only requiring one thing..for the member to read. If you go to the Sprint HTC M8 forums there is 2 devices there...the original M8 release and the Harman-Kardon device. If you flash ROMs without the H-K files or firmware you will lose the Harman-Kardon features...that does not justify making their own forum...and guarantee you will get 13 votes if you had a similar poll there. This is not about fighting you on one small community of devices, this is about a site precedent and not spoon feeding members for every little thing. It is expected that members do the research before flashing anything...if they do not know to check for the proper support in a ROM then they should not be flashing ROMs. They should stay on stock and get the full support the manufacturer has provided.
The best thing that someone can do for development and the community is to make a thread in General of all the ROMs that support the T device. Keep it maintained with any updates and new work. THAT is how you help the community. I see one has been created...excellent! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660866
I appreciate your passion for this request but you really are not seeing beyond your own needs here. You have to look at the big picture and how this site is set up and run....not that we are failing to grant you this "small" request. And did you not think that this would mean developers would have to support 2 threads in 2 forums rather than one thread in one forum and have a flashable zip to make it T compatible. Developers time is valuable as they do this for free, as a hobby and with great cost to their personal and family time. Most do not want to create and support an additional thread and ROM for such a minor variance. If there is ever a firmware upgrade that causes bricks between these variants I am sure Admin will look at this request more closely.

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Actually this is a development site created by developers for developers. It is not a support site. As for your poll of 13 votes, it is kind of biased as only people with that device are voting...not much difference in asking a teenager "Do you want your own room." I hardly think 13 people are going to sway admin to start a new precedent. You don't seem to understand that there are MANY devices with more than one release of a hardware variant. As it is now members go to the wrong S4 forum. Look at the big picture for once..imagine a site with another 1000 forums due to slight hardware vbariances...only requiring one thing..for the member to read. If you go to the Sprint HTC M8 forums there is 2 devices there...the original M8 release and the Harman-Kardon device. If you flash ROMs without the H-K files or firmware you will lose the Harman-Kardon features...that does not justify making their own forum...and guarantee you will get 13 votes if you had a similar poll there. This is not about fighting you on one small community of devices, this is about a site precedent and not spoon feeding members for every little thing. It is expected that members do the research before flashing anything...if they do not know to check for the proper support in a ROM then they should not be flashing ROMs. They should stay on stock and get the full support the manufacturer has provided.
The best thing that someone can do for development and the community is to make a thread in General of all the ROMs that support the T device. Keep it maintained with any updates and new work. THAT is how you help the community. I see one has been created...excellent! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660866
I appreciate your passion for this request but you really are not seeing beyond your own needs here. You have to look at the big picture and how this site is set up and run....not that we are failing to grant you this "small" request. And did you not think that this would mean developers would have to support 2 threads in 2 forums rather than one thread in one forum and have a flashable zip to make it T compatible. Developers time is valuable as they do this for free, as a hobby and with great cost to their personal and family time. Most do not want to create and support an additional thread and ROM for such a minor variance. If there is ever a firmware upgrade that causes bricks between these variants I am sure Admin will look at this request more closely.
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I get it, I really do, but a sub-forum really wouldn't get in the way of anything. i'm not really asking for a whole new forum. That thread just says what works, none of them support the radio itself. But is a sub forum where we can take care of each other easier really spoon feeding?
Like under the theme and apps forum have our 720T specific forum.

zeruth said:
I get it, I really do, but a sub-forum really wouldn't get in the way of anything. i'm not really asking for a whole new forum. That thread just says what works, none of them support the radio itself. But is a sub forum where we can take care of each other easier really spoon feeding?
Like under the theme and apps forum have our 720T specific forum.
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I really don't think you do. If you did, then you would realize that making a seperate subforum for people who cannot be bothered to read an OP IS spoon-feeding. If there is no damage to the phone then simply properly labeling the thread title resolves this. Also as mentioned, a proper flashable zip with radio and support files will also make all ROMs compatible.

After lurking for years, I will make my first post in support of this idea.

I am in favor of this I have an 720 and a 720t would make it a little easier.
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I really get what Kenny is saying .... but it isn't just the roms. Many of the xposed modules do not work for example. And I am not sure whether its being 4.4.2 or 720T. I can't get tethering to work without paying for an app (which I did). There is a 66 page thread about 720T related stuff because its just different enough to be a pia. At the very least we should all maybe try to label every 720t post with [720T] so that its easily searchable. Still means we have to do a search every time, but would be a little better in the meantime. Also, I had no idea there was such a thing as a 720T until I got this one as an insurance replacement. Perhaps this thread will at least let others in the forums know that such a thing exists and encourage everyone to specify 720 vs 720T when they are making posts so as to avoid confusion.

Yes, absolutely. I was thinking the same exact thing. This is a unique device that needs a sub forum.
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NOT a which is the best ROM thread

At the time of writing, we have Stock Deodexed N910TUVU1ANJ7 Rom by @jovy23 and three ROMs building off jovy23's base (in alphabetical order by ROM name): Dynamic Kat by @bri315317; FireKat by @megalomanic14; and Skyfall by @iB4STiD. More ROMs will be arriving.
While discussions of "which is the best ROM" are fruitless, with good ROMs from good developers, there may be different design philosophies, priorities, and emphases. Also, different users may have different wants and needs. As ROMs proliferate, it's going to be increasingly difficult for individual users to just try them all to see what best fits their perceived needs. I, therefore, thought it might be useful to have a thread where people could discuss, not which is the best ROM, but what, in their view, distinguishes one ROM from another in ways that may help users decide which ROMs to try, or try first.
My apologies in advance if this kind of thread is either inappropriate or not useful. I am NOT trying to spark any fire fights. It's just that, having been somewhat overwhelmed by the variety of ROMs available for my former GS III, this seems like a good idea to me.
TIA

There's already threads for that, the threads for those ROMs.

But those threads are ROM specific. I'm hoping for a thread that brings together discussion of different ROMs in a comparative, but not competitive framework to help users decide which ROMS may be worth trying. As the number of ROMS increases, it will be increasingly difficult for us to try all, or even most, of them ourselves.
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Everybody's Rom is probably about the same right now. But, my first flash will be FireKat mainly because Viper is already built in. I have developer abandonment issues from the Note 3 but hopefully my choice of developer(s) for this device will be better.

Oh yes I find this treat useful. So I dont know who is at the stand out yet. I am still reading. I might wait 1 month before I decide which ROM to use.
The most popular cook ROM for the Note 3 is what? Did he/she make one for the Note 4?