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Root - Yes or No

I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.

No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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Temetka said:
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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I know it's my decision to do or not .
Honestly , I think it became more a habit than a necessity for most users.

1. First reason
After many years of owning latest smartphones I know very well which application I cannot live without. So after using pathed versions - for a (long) test purpose - just bought them. So - no need to root from this point.
2. Second reason
Stock UI. Been trying many ROM's with good or bad results and realised that there are never ideal custom soft for your mobile. They caused always some kind of trouble. Maybe the reason is I'm getting older and have no time to dig into system, but lately I decided to stick to preinstalled firmware and as the only modification - to change unuseful Galaxy launcher on similar Galaxy one from Play store. So again - no root needed.
And yes - I got my Note4 rooted. There are two reasons I did this:
1. To get a possibility to add any application shortcut to the bar on the right side. I know I can jump between applications by using the task touch button on the left side but I love to use the bar on the right. Much easier for me.
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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WL8789621 said:
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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as far as I know Lollipop fixes the SD card Problems . Correct me if I am wrong

I'm still on Kit Kat. Was reading about SD on Lolipop and personally I think the new system SD storage improvement is dedicated to developers - not to us and our files whatever they are.
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I've rooted every android phone I have.. The note 3 took me about 8 months of non root use before I rooted to try custom ROMs.. They were great but not essential.
The note 4 running stock no root seems to be rock solid. Produces good enough performance to run anything with ease I chuck at it.. I like root apps. But deem non of them essential in my daily use of my phone. So in my opinion. This phone right now doesn't need root.
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Ive been rooting all my phones the xouple of years and tried allmost every rom. Now i have my note 4 since yesterday but i dont feel the need to root it. Its just fast the way it came with touchwiz. And for the first time i dont disturb the touchwiz it just works on this beast.
So in my opinion i shouldnt root it to make it faster.
Only thing is i cant greenify facebook becouse its a stock app. Does somebody know how i can greenify it ??

Yes
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Greenify? For battery life?
I'm gonna wait for lollipop, and then at least a few updates to that before I root.
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RoyLoy said:
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
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It depends on what you are doing with your phone. If you use mobile banking I recommend you DO NOT use root if so use as much protection as you can. With root you basically control anything - change design, control behavior of you device, control it's CPU and GPU, using different ROMs and more.
I've rooted my S4 and with awesome tools on XDA I was able to revert it and with USB jig make it totally unroot without any evidence of change.
It probably will be on Note 4 however Know could be problem.
I use root, I've SuperSU Pro and also I use Eset Antivirus. Mainly I use Xposed and fantastic X-Note ROM. Also what I love about ROOT is backup - simpy in recovery like TWRP.
Anyway it still depends on you what you wanna do with your phone. You can live without it in stock but at least Android 4.4.4. in Note 4 with Stock ROM is pretty junk on RAM.

Just a personal preference. I specifically root all my devices for two main reasons.
1 adware programs
2 hotspot
Those 2 reasons usually are the only 2 for me. The warranty thing i feel like it doesnt matter for me. I use to keep the sprint insurance on my phones and if i had a prob i could just take it and and get a replacement or repair. Sprint hasnt ever told me they wouldnt fool with my phone because it was rooted. I just bring it in with stock software and most of them dont even know what root is. I swap around phones so much now i just dropped the insurance all together because i figured i was paying 130 dollars a year with the rate increase and i wasnt benefiting from it. I hardly ever use any kind of hotspot and sprint makes u pay 20 dollars extra a month. I dont think i use it enough to justify paying that. I can go 6 months easy without using it. Its just those few and far between cases where it comes in handy.
My 2 cents
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I didn't root my Note 1 or the Sony Z Ultra but I've been looking into rooting the Note 4 due to the phone interface being far too large for the size of the phone screen, the Z Ultra was correctly scaled to suit the larger screen so it made the Note 4 feel very cramped in comparison. I've used the adb trick I found on this forum to adjust the DPI without root which largely works well, it mucks up most of the Samsung applications which is fine as they can be replaced aside from the stock camera application which is meant to get the best out of the camera. The only solution seems to be to root it and set custom application specific dpi's although I'm not finding the misaligned camera screen too much of an issue.
John

The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android

donkon said:
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
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How will rooting help privacy?

I was lazy about rooting my Note 4 for a while but as soon as I did I realized I should not have waited as long as I did. There is some really solid, stable, streamlined ROMs available right now. The lag on stock is not as noticeable until you've rooted and installed a custom ROM. Now I can truly say the 4 is a beast.

touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.

zurkx said:
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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LOL

jlczl said:
LOL
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.

daffie said:
No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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I think that's what most knowledgeable people do when setting up a new TW phone. The LOL is because that doesn't eliminate the lag that is there. There is so much discussion about this all over, I don't really want to start it all over again here.

Root vs Not (better to not?)

Alright guys, I've been out of this for a while. Actually...I'm on my rooted Note 7 right now lol.
So I'm looking for user input on what I can still do if not rooted? Phone comes tomorrow btw.
What I'm most interested in is what can still be done without root.... Disabling/freezing apps? Changing notification layout/symbols? Etc.
I know about the 80% charge thing... Could that ever be bypassed btw?
I know this is kind of a big question but I haven't had to do anything since rooting the 7 and I've been sitting here waiting for the 8. There's just so much to catch up on so I'm hoping you guys can help me either understand more of what's new or just give your .02
Thanks all!
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Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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I agree with Saafir! It all about your preference. I have the Note 8 rooted for testing purposes. It is not a true root and a lot of the rooted apps do not work. Plus you cannot have a custom recovery since the boot loader cannot be unlocked at the moment.

Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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jlechner said:
Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
Don't mind helping if you get stuck somewhere.

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I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
Don't mind helping if you get stuck somewhere.
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Roger that.
Yeah, thankfully this wouldn't be my first root rodeo by any means.
I mostly use root for bloatware removal and a handful of xposed modules. Xposed isn't working yet anyways so hopefully there'll be a future with that (or at least some form of alternatives.)
Thanks for the info guys!
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Me personally i love rooting my phones to get a personal touch. But for once I really don't need to root this phone right now. Because i can still get the hotspot for f*** and use nova for a different launcher and they have most things for me to customize like screen savers, different ringers get rid of some annoying toasts popups except for the vol up warning which I can live with. Plus the Samsung pay is the deal breaker for me right now for rooting. Because it is convenient especially when I forget my wallet while at work or a quick run to the junk food store. Till there is a work around like on the note 4 for android pay I used to own before I upgraded to the 8 I'll be a lame stockboy.
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There Is no need to root the n8.. but give it a try .. my two cents is the device seem slower and the apps that you install for root you wouldn't really miss. The Pro of rooting is you can change system files around to your liking and add futures that normal you wouldn't get for free. For example, I would have to pay Sprint to use spam identifier caller ID that normally Samsung would give you for free....

To root or not.

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Hi. My old phone is rooted, and i have repetitouch on it. It served me well with the macro recordings.
However i am unable to find any macro recording app similar to repetitouch that can run on unrooted phone.
Now on my note 9, i am not sure to root it or not.
Or do you guys have an alternative app similar to repetitouch which i am unable to find?

Dont do it. I did away with rooting since the Note 8 and i am now well satisfied with the Note 9's performance amd the phone as a whole. Try to weigh what advantages rooting will bring you vs not rooting. I no longer believe that is necessary any more. Just my two cents.

I agree. There was a time when I flat out wouldn't use a phone without rooting it first. As phones and firmware have improved over the years I see fewer and fewer reasons to do it.
I know there's probably the odd thing you'll miss but you'd be surprised how quickly you adapt to not having them.
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The thing that will sway me is call recording and the ability to change the ridiculously large nav button height!
If these 2 options were available without root, I would stay stock

i dont really need root
for adblock, use adhell 3
for youtube adblock, install "youtube vanced"

jameslfc5 said:
The thing that will sway me is call recording and the ability to change the ridiculously large nav button height!
If these 2 options were available without root, I would stay stock
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You can record calls without root. I use call recorders from play store. I totally disabled nav bar with Gesture Navigation by xda.
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You can record calls without root. I use call recorders from play store. I totally disabled nav bar with Gesture Navigation by xda.
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Edit: Both are nonroot.

I didn't root my Note 7, S7E, S8+ or Note 8. The main thing I miss rooting for is Titanium backup of apps and their data. It's the app data that one can't get transferred over 100% when switching to a new phone. Plus it is just nice to have an app and it's data backed up for several reasons. There is a non root app/data alternative with Helium, but it doesn't work on all apps.
I would probably still be rooting if Samsung didn't punish us by locking our phones down to 80% charging limit. But that negative is too much for me to take, so no root. These phones work very well now without root, except for app/data backup as I stated.

If it's the snapdragon model then root won't even be available for it.

jameslfc5 said:
The thing that will sway me is call recording and the ability to change the ridiculously large nav button height!
If these 2 options were available without root, I would stay stock
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Boldbeast call recorder works perfect on note 9 without root.

teegunn said:
I would probably still be rooting if Samsung didn't punish us by locking our phones down to 80% charging limit. But that negative is too much for me to take, so no root. These phones work very well now without root, except for app/data backup as I stated.
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What do you mean with 80% charging limit? Never heard of it.

Nick334 said:
What do you mean with 80% charging limit? Never heard of it.
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Google Samfail root 80%

The Exynos is for rooting.
Love TiB, AdAway and others to name a few.
Is it a deal breaker to NOT be able to root? A few years ago it was, today not really.
I just wish that all phones on all platforms had a switch that the user could decide whether or not they wanted to unlock the bootloader and do what they wanted and accept the risks involved.

I'm using Acr call recorder and it doesn't require root.
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I have acr pro. It works great and don't need root. I do need to root since I need titanium to restore my data from swype (themes and backup words) which they stopped development so cannot retrieve backup data, theme or words without it. Also, you have lmt if you want to add quick launch app and add the menu button which is gone for android. As well as many other apps like titanium, viper 4 android, screen timeout, adblock plus, no ads YouTube, ...
Downside, it can break screen mirroring, samsung pay...
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This is ridiculous I won't be able to root my note 9 if I knew it before I would buy exynos version from abroad. I can't live without ad away, unlimited hotspot, and all modifications. First modification I thought it will be sound level as it so quite compere to s9+

No problem buddy, happy to help.
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What do you mean with 80% charging limit? Never heard of it.
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Pretty sure Samsung locks in your charging limit to 80% on all their newer Snapdragon phones. They've been doing this for a while. If it has changed to our benefit (no 80% charging limit), then I would seriously reconsider rooting.

I don't use that app so I don't know of any alternatives, but if there are none then my advice is simply to go ahead and root (so long as you can live without the things you lose with root). Do a cost/benefit and see if it's worth it to you, unless someone suggests an alternative app that wouldn't require root of course.
Oh and if people are going off topic then just politely bring us back please...no need to throw a fit (see rule 2). It's a community, not customer service.

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This is ridiculous I won't be able to root my note 9 if I knew it before I would buy exynos version from abroad. I can't live without ad away, unlimited hotspot, and all modifications. First modification I thought it will be sound level as it so quite compere to s9+
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Unlimited hotspot?

Root or Not Root that's the question

Hi together,
I am wondering which benefits I can expect from rooting my device.
One thing that comes to my mind is having an option to use face unlock for older unlock APIs.
What do you guys think?

Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.

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Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.

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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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I hear you. Rooting used to be fun and easy but it's more work than I want to deal with at this point.
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It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....

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It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
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It takes more time, which you actively have to spend. It's not like ow there is an update. Ok install done.
You have to go through all steps. You have to e.g. change settings in build.prop again. Flash kernel or what ever.
One example with rooted and problems with apps I'm always unsure if it's due to root or due to the rom. Stuff like this.

I don't have to do either of those things. My build.prop changes are systemlessly handled by a Magisk module that just works as soon as I'm rooted again. YMMV.
I've spent more time writing in this thread than my monthly process takes. If you don't have that time, then fine. You've answered your own question?

I've rooted all my devices except the pixel ones. There's absolutely no need for me to root a pixel device, everything is working as I want out of the box. That's one reason that development for the pixel 4/xl is nearly non existent.

ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Yes this would be the only reason for me.

first reason finger face
second reason motion sense..
now on android beta 2.5 not rooted

Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way

fuarkgl3 said:
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
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Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Pull it down for half a sec.

Mackay53 said:
Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
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Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply

fuarkgl3 said:
Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
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Because many people like what Android has to offer over iOS, simple. Rooting isn't as useful as what it used to be

Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...

xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.

xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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Google pay works right now for me and I'm rooted running 11 beta 2.5.

fr0st420 said:
From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
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I want to root so I can run ProtonVPN (or any VPN really) alongside Adguard. You can't run them side x side without root....
Admittedly a little sick of the whole big brother thing, so wouldn't mind obscuring my traffic a bit.

Question Does it worth rooting pixel 7?

I'm receiving my Google Pixel 7 tomorrow. I'm coming from Pixel 6 and before coming from a Pixel 4. The last device I rooted was Oneplus 6T and was before the pixels I've got. So, my question is, does it worth root for this device? What would be the benefits nowadays? I've got the pixel 7 from Google unlocked. Thanks in advance

imrock666 said:
I'm receiving my Google Pixel 7 tomorrow. I'm coming from Pixel 6 and before coming from a Pixel 4. The last device I rooted was Oneplus 6T and was before the pixels I've got. So, my question is, does it worth root for this device? What would be the benefits nowadays? I've got the pixel 7 from Google unlocked. Thanks in advance
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To answer your question, I would say it's worth it. You can get system wide AdBlock. Some apps require it like audio mods. You can also get LSPosed and ASOPMods which will give you a bunch of tweaks on the stock rom without having to use a custom ROM, among other things, but in the end it's up to you

Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot

imrock666 said:
Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot
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Google Pay might be disabled when you root it though.

imrock666 said:
Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot
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Im rooted and I have no problem doing payments with the NFC

I think that the people that use XDA are likely to be in favor of rooting, after all they are mostly hackers anyway. I have to say I haven't rooted one of my phones in years, android has gotten so good that most of the features that rooting provided are available without rooting now.
That being said, I think you know the answer. If there is something you want on your phone that you can only get by rooting, then you should root. The Pixel series seems to be very well supported by the community.

Thank you guys for the reply. I've been far from the scene but i know what you say it's right. I'll take a look to the topics to see if I need something that worth root.

AdAway -that's why I root, and it's worth it. I hate ads and a system wide ad blocker is awesome. Also, the AOSP mods module (you can find it on XDA) helps customize a stock rooted device very well.
*But I don't use banking apps, so if you do - root may not be worth the hassle or the security risk.

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AdAway -that's why I root, and it's worth it. I hate ads and a system wide ad blocker is awesome. Also, the AOSP mods module (you can find it on XDA) helps customize a stock rooted device very well.
*But I don't use banking apps, so if you do - root may not be worth the hassle or the security risk.
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If ad blocking is your main reason to root, you should look into things that can be done via dns from your router to every device in your home no software required. That being said, unlocking the bootloader on my Samsung tablet and pixel experience gsi actually made me appreciate some of the pixels ui. Root doesn't really matter like it used to for me, but in principle I should be allowed admin privilege on a device I paid for.

Thanks, pal. I'm still thinking in rooting the pixel 7. I've just got it but in my opinion has everything you need out of the box. Times are changing now.

imrock666 said:
Thanks, pal. I'm still thinking in rooting the pixel 7. I've just got it but in my opinion has everything you need out of the box. Times are changing now.
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The nice thing regarding rooting are the possible extra functions you may want to add then using modules and apps. I tested many custom ROMs for the Pixel 6 and 7, but always went back to the stock ROM. With many custom ROMs I had problems, bugs and glitches. Now rooted stock plus a custom kernel is my setup of choice.
As you may know, root can be a serious security risk if you don't know what you do or if you f* up badly getting hacked or something like that. And maybe some banking apps and stuff like that won't work with a rooted device, but there's workarounds for that maybe.
I use latest stable Magisk, AdAway to block ads and tracking via systemless hosts file, and App Ops with Sui by Rikka. With App Ops you have advanced permission settings for apps, which is good for privacy.
Using App Ops and AdAway in hosts mode would not be possible without root, and for the Kirisakura Kernel a Magisk module is needed too. Swift backup, which I use for complete backups needs root too for some features.
App Ops and Swift Backup are not FOSS sadly. I wish they were and there are people saying that they can not be trusted if they are not open source. On the other side they are very well implemented apps which just work. So I use them.

talksickisil said:
If ad blocking is your main reason to root, you should look into things that can be done via dns from your router to every device in your home no software required. That being said, unlocking the bootloader on my Samsung tablet and pixel experience gsi actually made me appreciate some of the pixels ui. Root doesn't really matter like it used to for me, but in principle I should be allowed admin privilege on a device I paid for.
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Ad blocking isn't my main reason, but thanks for the advice. I've been using AdAway for over a decade and it's a simple solution on the device side of things, and I like to keep things simple. I will look into your solution for my home Wifi network though.
But rooting allows you to add or delete features, so combined with AdAway, a custom kernel, and a few modifications on my stock pixel 7 rom - I have a device that performs better, does what I want when I want, and without obnoxious ads - regardless of the network I'm on

O.J. Simpson said:
Ad blocking isn't my main reason, but thanks for the advice. I've been using AdAway for over a decade and it's a simple solution on the device side of things, and I like to keep things simple. I will look into your solution for my home Wifi network though.
But rooting allows you to add or delete features, so combined with AdAway, a custom kernel, and a few modifications on my stock pixel 7 rom - I have a device that performs better, does what I want when I want, and without obnoxious ads - regardless of the network I'm on
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We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.

talksickisil said:
We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.
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Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).

t-ryder said:
Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).
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I definitely recommend to anybody rooted or not to look into setting up pi hole for network wide host list enforcement. I also recommend a 30 day trial on controld.com . Very versatile and I have been subscribed @4 dollars a month happily. Not trying to shill but I love what can be done with it. And it carries over to your cellular network when you aren't on wifi. Also there's nextdns and Adguard home which are great as well. Controld allows you to change you ip locale like a VPN, without being on VPN. If you do a trial you'll probably want to keep it. Word of warning

talksickisil said:
We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.
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Much appreciated. And I guess that's the purpose of forums like this - public discourse and sharing of information.
Take care, homie

t-ryder said:
Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).
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