I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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This (QPST) is something I have no experience with,but,interested in the subject:
I'm good with the band support (for now) as what's available in my area,with my carrier,is supported (Bands 2 &4 on T-Mobile US,no Band 12 or 66 yet),definitely would be nice for at least Band 12,if possible,as I believe my area will get it eventually.
One side note & a positive one at that:
My MiMix locks-in on a signal & has better/stronger connections than any phone I've used to date. This was really noticeable while commuting back & forth to work today,unbelieveable signal quality.
IDK if the ceramic body is better vs other materials,but,recent flagships from HTC/Samsung/LG pale in comparison vs this phone.
i have MI MIX in hand.
I think we need MIX Diag Driver to make it recognize from pc. MI5 Diag drivers are not the same
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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I may have that 'xtra' mix in a few weeks, will PM you if it pans out and we can see about a software hack to open up other bands.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge using XDA Labs
wolfgart said:
i have MI MIX in hand.
I think we need MIX Diag Driver to make it recognize from pc. MI5 Diag drivers are not the same
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I've heard the Mi5 diag drivers were usable on the Mi5S, which is the same SD 821, so that's strange. What happens when you put it in diag mode and plug it in? Can I see a screenshot from device manager, or some evidence of what the device is?
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
Good luck Ken, I hope you are able to crack this bad boy.
krazyken04 said:
I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
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first of all I do not have the MIX/any Xiaomi device...but you could try starting here (though think you may have already or have plodded down the path much more already) good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
KOLIOSIS said:
This (QPST) is something I have no experience with,but,interested in the subject:
I'm good with the band support (for now) as what's available in my area,with my carrier,is supported (Bands 2 &4 on T-Mobile US,no Band 12 or 66 yet),definitely would be nice for at least Band 12,if possible,as I believe my area will get it eventually.
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Is that band 4 only on LTE? I've seen many spec sheets and the carrier I'm on only has band 4 for 3g.
emann56 said:
Is that band 4 only on LTE? I've seen many spec sheets and the carrier I'm on only has band 4 for 3g.
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this is what I have gathered from various sources (so yes Band 4 is both LTE and 3g)
Tmobile
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Lower 700 MHz band 12
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
ATT
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands
LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz),
Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
LTE B29 (700)
LTE B30 (2300 WCS)
mac231us said:
this is what I have gathered from various sources (so yes Band 4 is both LTE and 3g)
Tmobile
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Lower 700 MHz band 12
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
ATT
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands
LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz),
Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
LTE B29 (700)
LTE B30 (2300 WCS)
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That still doesn't mean the WCDMA Band 4 is enabled. It's possible to have LTE band 4 and not have WCDMA Band 4.
emann56 said:
That still doesn't mean the WCDMA Band 4 is enabled. It's possible to have LTE band 4 and not have WCDMA Band 4.
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Yes....was just giving the bands and frequencies I know for two GSM carriers in the US. Monitoring the bands at various locations by something like signal check lite (much easier to use/read than lte discovery IMO) would be only way to tell.. If I recall correctly this device has 3g at 850,900,1800,1900 so there is no band 4 on 3g it seems... Although band 4 (1700/2100) COULD be a 3g band too for some devices. Someone with better knowledge can chime in here. I might be wrong.
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krazyken04 said:
I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
any luck so far? Thanks
mac231us said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
any luck so far? Thanks
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Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
krazyken04 said:
Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
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Sorry to hear that the band could not be tapped into...
yes most likely a hardware thing-like Samsung (some of their models exclusively for Latin america have u.s bands but the 'international' variants of the same models will not do the U.S bands no matter what...
I actually opened one of them (got a damaged T239M) and found indeed that the motherboard is different...(so much speculation and folks asking/trying to flash S. American firmware on like the T705, T239 etc, myself included (not possible anyway even if going through TWRP and flashing modem files etc...bootloader and pit all different..so nothing would change with the other parts of the firmware)
so it is highly likely in this case that the modem will not do bands 12, 17 (ATT) and 29, 30 (ATT). However, it is impressive that for a China phone this will even do bands 2, 4 and 5. Huawei models (again supposedly international) except for some variants of the smaller 5-5.2 inch models (not p9, p8, P8 max, x2, t3, t3 pro, or m3 (some of these are the tablet phone types) and numerous other Chinese phones will not do anything more than 1, 3, 7 and then maybe 8 and 20 or a 28. (all useless for North America). Huawei has an M2 variant that has US bands and also on their smaller phones (certain versions)
so for the Mix, you at least have LTE 2, 4 and 5 (though of lesser importance).
krazyken04 said:
Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
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can you make a detailed guide with all steps and stuff to enable desidered band ? If not works is the same ...
would like to see if LTE Band 20 can be unlocked
wolfgart said:
can you make a detailed guide with all steps and stuff to enable desidered band ? If not works is the same ...
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I would love to, it's the first thought I had when both starting a new guide and when I finished getting the phone to look for band 12.
I'm currently _buried_ in a project for work right now (it's taking my nights and a lot of sleep from me ha), so nothing soon. But it's on my list of first contributions I'd like to make to this awesome community!
Would you be able to try Band 20 ?
Thanks
krazyken04 said:
I would love to, it's the first thought I had when both starting a new guide and when I finished getting the phone to look for band 12.
I'm currently _buried_ in a project for work right now (it's taking my nights and a lot of sleep from me ha), so nothing soon. But it's on my list of first contributions I'd like to make to this awesome community!
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tarkuk said:
would like to see if LTE Band 20 can be unlocked
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So far my experience is that if the band isn't listed in those spec sheet it isn't there in the hardware (apparently a very Xiaomi thing to do). I'm finding that they rarely software lock you out of the bands, it's usually that their hardware simply doesn't support the band.
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Hi,
I recently purchased a new xt1058 on ebay, it's the US model i belive, but LTE doesn't work in france.
xt1058 have 2/4/5/7/17 bands activated and LTE in france is 20.
Is there any way to change that ? Can I switch modem files from xt1052 rom (EU version) ?
I'm running kk 4.4.4 212.44.26.ghost_row.RCI.en.CA version.
Thanks!
According to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Europe
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.
Emiliano55 said:
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.
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I think the problem is that LTE on band 7 is only on 2600MHz, only band 20 use 800MHz in France
There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.
Emiliano55 said:
There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.
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The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.
Thibzzz said:
The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.
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Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17 (look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(1st_generation)#Variants)
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.
Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too
dagoban said:
Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too
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I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.
sanez said:
I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.
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What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?
dagoban said:
What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?
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I have since months xt1052 fw with 1053 radio and this allowed me to have Italian language and 3G/H+ working fine. xt1052 radio don't work at all on US devices.
Tried last week to enable bands modifying NV strings via QXDM but there's not effect. GSM and WCDMA are good, but no LTE. I guess is hw limitation, or some other NV items must be changed to get it working.
Emiliano55 said:
Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.
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Ok, thanks for the clarification
By the way, there is a nice wiki who talks about french LTE bands, and according to it, band 7 @2600Mhz is used by 3 carriers, including mine, but no LTE on my moto x...
As Dagoban said, carriers must mainly use band 20 @800mhz to cover large areas.
Hi All!!
Was just wondering if it is at all possible to replace or add/unlock additional LTE bands on our AHD?
As it stands now: ATRIX HD has the following bands and frequencies: LTE 700 and 1700 / 2100 (Bands 4, 17). Both USA.
The problem is LTE was introduced quite recently here in Pakistan and the frequency/band they are using is 1800MHz (Band 3, I believe?). So I can use 3G internet with my AHD but not the LTE.
Now as our phone is also based on the MSM8960 chipset, I did a quick research to see what other MSM8960 chipset phones have in terms of LTE bands. Quite a few do have the 1800MHz freq I need.
RAZR HD: LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 20)
RAZR HD XT925: LTE 700 (Band 13)
RAZR M XT905: LTE 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7)
Photon Q XT897:LTE 1900 (Band 25)
HTC Windows 8X:LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 17) - AT&T
BB Z10:LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 8, 20) - STL100-2
And I did visit the official Qualcomm page and they say the MSM8960 has "world/multimode" LTE.
Now my question is are we limited by hardware or software?
And this is where I need help understanding the following link:
1) Look at Page 3 of the following PDF file. This shows a complete hardware breakdown of our AHD phone. It shows the various PA (Power Amps) and other components the phone has as well as how data flows. According to this, is our phone limited by hardware to just the bands we have now or is it possible to unlock new bands and use them?
http://www.techinsights.com/uploadedFiles/Public_Website/Content_-_Primary/Marketing/2013/techinsights-motorola-atrix-hd-mb886.pdf
Also the following photo proves that the RTR8600 transceiver on our AHD is capable of LTE @ 1800MHz (Look at 4th Gen column): http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6541/IAR Summit Nov 2012_Serge_Jim_Page_20.png
If not limited by hardware. Has anyone heard of a software called "Qualcomm Prod Support Tool" I ask this because I came across "QPST?" which claims to unlock the bands on Qualcomm processors. While keeping the existing bands unharmed.
This link shows how to use QPST:
2) http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-t...aws-bands-on-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sgh-i337m/
Also found a thread about QPST WRT Samsung S5:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
So.
1. Has anyone here ever used QPST or know of any other method to unlock bands (if at all possible)?
2. Can we just flash modem firmware (baseband) from another MSM8960 phones to enable LTE frequencies on AHD? Asking this as CM11 for MSM8960 works on all devices and hardware of all the MSM8960 phones (similar drivers?)
Any and all help/guidance on the matter will be greatly appreciated as my other alternative is replacing the phone I bought not 6 months ago. Also I know of all the legal concerns on this matter as I am not in EU or US I believe I am at little risk of FCC coming after me My point is, please add useful and knowledgeable replies to this thread concerning the topic at hand instead of telling me FCC or AT&T will catch me..
I'm currently rooted with Phil'z Touch recovery(unlocked BL) and CM11. Phone is not locked to AT&T.
Thanks in advance!
theenlightened1 said:
Hi All!!
Was just wondering if it is at all possible to replace or add/unlock additional LTE bands on our AHD?
As it stands now: ATRIX HD has the following bands and frequencies: LTE 700 and 1700 / 2100 (Bands 4, 17). Both USA.
The problem is LTE was introduced quite recently here in Pakistan and the frequency/band they are using is 1800MHz (Band 3, I believe?). So I can use 3G internet with my AHD but not the LTE.
Now as our phone is also based on the MSM8960 chipset, I did a quick research to see what other MSM8960 chipset phones have in terms of LTE bands. Quite a few do have the 1800MHz freq I need.
RAZR HD: LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 20)
RAZR HD XT925: LTE 700 (Band 13)
RAZR M XT905: LTE 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7)
Photon Q XT897:LTE 1900 (Band 25)
HTC Windows 8X:LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 17) - AT&T
BB Z10:LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 8, 20) - STL100-2
And I did visit the official Qualcomm page and they say the MSM8960 has "world/multimode" LTE.
Now my question is are we limited by hardware or software?
And this is where I need help understanding the following link:
1) Look at Page 3 of the following PDF file. This shows a complete hardware breakdown of our AHD phone. It shows the various PA (Power Amps) and other components the phone has as well as how data flows. According to this, is our phone limited by hardware to just the bands we have now or is it possible to unlock new bands and use them?
http://www.techinsights.com/uploade...2013/techinsights-motorola-atrix-hd-mb886.pdf
Also the following photo proves that the RTR8600 transceiver on our AHD is capable of LTE @ 1800MHz (Look at 4th Gen column): http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6541/IAR Summit Nov 2012_Serge_Jim_Page_20.png
If not limited by hardware. Has anyone heard of a software called "Qualcomm Prod Support Tool" I ask this because I came across "QPST?" which claims to unlock the bands on Qualcomm processors. While keeping the existing bands unharmed.
This link shows how to use QPST:
2) http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-t...aws-bands-on-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sgh-i337m/
Also found a thread about QPST WRT Samsung S5:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
So.
1. Has anyone here ever used QPST or know of any other method to unlock bands (if at all possible)?
2. Can we just flash modem firmware (baseband) from another MSM8960 phones to enable LTE frequencies on AHD? Asking this as CM11 for MSM8960 works on all devices and hardware of all the MSM8960 phones (similar drivers?)
Any and all help/guidance on the matter will be greatly appreciated as my other alternative is replacing the phone I bought not 6 months ago. Also I know of all the legal concerns on this matter as I am not in EU or US I believe I am at little risk of FCC coming after me My point is, please add useful and knowledgeable replies to this thread concerning the topic at hand instead of telling me FCC or AT&T will catch me..
I'm currently rooted with Phil'z Touch recovery(unlocked BL) and CM11. Phone is not locked to AT&T.
Thanks in advance!
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Yes it is possible to do what you are looking to do.
Original thread link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55321005
Modified Motorola instructions - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57305360
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palmbeach05 said:
Yes it is possible to do what you are looking to do.
Original thread link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55321005
Modified Motorola instructions - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57305360
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Thanks for the quick response and the links :good: Will check them out...
Have you tried doing this yourself? or have first hand knowledge? can I get back to you if I have questions?
Cheers!! :fingers-crossed:
theenlightened1 said:
Thanks for the quick response and the links :good: Will check them out...
Have you tried doing this yourself? or have first hand knowledge? can I get back to you if I have questions?
Cheers!! :fingers-crossed:
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Yes i have tried it, i actually activated all bands. And yes, i am available for questions
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Hmm...
Enabling of additional LTE bands has failed so far on xt897 (Photon Q).
If you're interested to see what has been tried so far, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275748
You should pay special attention to the research done by stargo - his posts in the second half of the thread and the link to his utility source...
kabaldan said:
Hmm...
Enabling of additional LTE bands has failed so far on xt897 (Photon Q).
If you're interested to see what has been tried so far, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275748
You should pay special attention to the research done by stargo - his posts in the second half of the thread and the link to his utility source...
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I don't have the Photon Q, but it is always good to have feedback on other msm8960 devices. I'll check the link out in a sec
EDIT: Has anyone with the Photon Q tried the steps in the link above?
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kabaldan said:
Hmm...
Enabling of additional LTE bands has failed so far on xt897 (Photon Q).
If you're interested to see what has been tried so far, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275748
You should pay special attention to the research done by stargo - his posts in the second half of the thread and the link to his utility source...
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Thank you for the info :good:..
I just checked the links and he is failing and the modem keeps crashing but Photon Q has just the one band 25 activated by default? Maybe Moto and Sprint have a thing going there where they limited the hardware to keep the price down and prevent customer from taking their phone to rival networks?
AHD is also used by Bell in Canada I believe.. and they also use band 7 in addition to AT&T's bands 4 and 17? So their might be some hardware in AHD to use the additional bands? Of course this is all my guess work.. however..
@palmbeach05 said that he has successfully activated all bands.. I hope it was for AHD and that he got a chance to test them out That makes me think we have different hardware to Photon Q and gives me hope it would work for me too if it worked for another user?
Look the following link: http://www.comparecellular.com/cell-phones/motorola-atrix-hd-lte/specifications.asp
It lists Bell's variant of AHD capable of ONLY Band 7 for LTE... while in the US they enabled Bands 4 and 17 for AT&T? If this is accurate then we have hardware limited by firmware/software.. and additional bands could be unlocked?
I just need Band 3.. don't mind blocking the rest if that makes the device more stable as I don't travel a whole lot..
AT&T specs on the Atrix HD MB886 -
AFAIK it should be LTE (700 (band 17)) / (1700/ 2100 (band 4)) .
Band 4 is AWS which uses both 1700 & 2100 for up/down but is just referred to by 1700.
Bell LTE bands (from Wikipedia) are 700b (band 17), 1700 (band 4), 2600 (band 7).
From research it seems Bell Canada had 1700 (AWS band 4) up and running in 2011 and then got 2600 (band 7) up and running in July 2012 - the exact time frame they launched the Atrix HD.
While they (Bell) didn't get any 700b (band 17) until they launched last year - 2014.
So it would seem that the HD was indeed running on 2600 when launched by Bell IMO.
I'm quite sure that if @palmbeach05 said he had all bands working then he did.
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Look the following link: http://www.comparecellular.com/cell-phones/motorola-atrix-hd-lte/specifications.asp
It lists Bell's variant of AHD capable of ONLY Band 7 for LTE... while in the US they enabled Bands 4 and 17 for AT&T? If this is accurate then we have hardware limited by firmware/software.. and additional bands could be unlocked?
I just need Band 3.. don't mind blocking the rest if that makes the device more stable as I don't travel a whole lot..
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Yeah a lot of conflicting data online... thanks for correcting me on the Bell bands..
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I'm quite sure that if @palmbeach05 said he had all bands working then he did.
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Waiting for confirmation from him on whether he got this done for AHD or another MSM8960 phone...
1. I think that the biggest battle is getting the PC, software & HD all on the same page - If you know what I mean. Once you get the software to recognize the HD in the correct way your mostly done. I started to do this but had issues and thought I'd save it for another day.
2. I know that Qualcomm regretted leaving the MSM8960 open to DIY reprogramming as they soon updated how they did things - none of their later model chips have this ability.
3. There are some handy programs on the Play Store for computing the NV values
See----->>>> Qualcomm NV Calculator & LTE Band Calculator
4. If you succeed please keep us posted TIA
Tim3tripp3r said:
AT&T specs on the Atrix HD MB886 -
AFAIK it should be LTE (700 (band 17)) / (1700/ 2100 (band 4)) .
Band 4 is AWS which uses both 1700 & 2100 for up/down but is just referred to by 1700.
Bell LTE bands (from Wikipedia) are 700b (band 17), 1700 (band 4), 2600 (band 7).
From research it seems Bell Canada had 1700 (AWS band 4) up and running in 2011 and then got 2600 (band 7) up and running in July 2012 - the exact time frame they launched the Atrix HD.
While they (Bell) didn't get any 700b (band 17) until they launched last year - 2014.
So it would seem that the HD was indeed running on 2600 when launched by Bell IMO.
I'm quite sure that if @palmbeach05 said he had all bands working then he did.
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Just woke up for the day. Yes i did do that unlocking method for the AHD. To check what bands are available, hit *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone info and the three dot menu in the upper right hand corner. You are able to select preffered bands in this menu, which will allow you to make it a global phone instead of just LTE. I'm in the US, so i can only vouch for ATT bands. I haven't tried switching my apns and service to TMobile to check if they are up and running too, but i think i might do that later on today to test it out.
NOTE - Global sticks all the time, including on reboots, when selected while using CM11. CM12 is having issues on that at the moment
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Yeah a lot of conflicting data online... thanks for correcting me on the Bell bands..
Waiting for confirmation from him on whether he got this done for AHD or another MSM8960 phone...
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palmbeach05 said:
Just woke up for the day. Yes i did do that unlocking method for the AHD. To check what bands are available, hit *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone info and the three dot menu in the upper right hand corner. You are able to select preffered bands in this menu, which will allow you to make it a global phone instead of just LTE. I'm in the US, so i can only vouch for ATT bands. I haven't tried switching my apns and service to TMobile to check if they are up and running too, but i think i might do that later on today to test it out.
NOTE - Global sticks all the time, including on reboots, when selected while using CM11. CM12 is having issues on that at the moment
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Thanks again.. I have no problem sticking to CM11 if it works.. I tried the latest nightly of CM12 last week and my games kept hanging and crashing so I reverted back to CM11.. I'll get an LTE sim in a day or two and then unlock the bands.. be ready for some questions regarding the unlock process
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Thanks again.. I have no problem sticking to CM11 if it works.. I tried the latest nightly of CM12 last week and my games kept hanging and crashing so I reverted back to CM11.. I'll get an LTE sim in a day or two and then unlock the bands.. be ready for some questions regarding the unlock process
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You can actually unlock the bands now if you want, this method deals with the radio/modem, not the sim card
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Thank you for the info :good:..
I just checked the links and he is failing and the modem keeps crashing but Photon Q has just the one band 25 activated by default? Maybe Moto and Sprint have a thing going there where they limited the hardware to keep the price down and prevent customer from taking their phone to rival networks?
AHD is also used by Bell in Canada I believe.. and they also use band 7 in addition to AT&T's bands 4 and 17? So their might be some hardware in AHD to use the additional bands? Of course this is all my guess work.. however..
@palmbeach05 said that he has successfully activated all bands.. I hope it was for AHD and that he got a chance to test them out That makes me think we have different hardware to Photon Q and gives me hope it would work for me too if it worked for another user?
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Update regarding band 17 - I am not seeing it pop up in my menu of bands i can select in the *#*#4636#*#* menu. I have not tried a different device's modem yet, nor have I tried what Kablan was talking about in his post regarding the Photon Q.
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Thanks again.. I have no problem sticking to CM11 if it works.. I tried the latest nightly of CM12 last week and my games kept hanging and crashing so I reverted back to CM11.. I'll get an LTE sim in a day or two and then unlock the bands.. be ready for some questions regarding the unlock process
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Update - Global finally sticks on 3/10 builds. It must have gotten fixed with all those commits that got pushed out between 3/4 and 3/10 builds
Sorry for not being able to respond for a while.. the week's been crazy and sadly this one looks to be following the same pattern.
So.. I didn't get a chance to try anything out as yet coz of several reasons..
First I lost my phone and thank God there are still good people left on this Earth coz one of them attended my call and brought it back to me!
Secondly my mobile operator is giving me a headache getting that LTE enabled sim.. so waiting for that.. and one top of that I've been busy..
So I apologise but please know that I've not given up on this and will give this a shot soon..
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Update - Global finally sticks on 3/10 builds. It must have gotten fixed with all those commits that got pushed out between 3/4 and 3/10 builds
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Is that CM11 or CM12? I have CM11.. build 11/12 (that's Nov 12, 2014 of course).. hope this works on it.. I have a Windows 8.1 laptop but also have an old P4 desktop PC running Win XP.. I have downloaded "EFS_Professional_2.1.80_BETA.zip" and "Unlock_bands_of_your_qualcomm_device!.zip" which contains "QPST" and "mzTools".. I'm trying to make sure I understand the instructions perfectly before I take a single step.. will ask you for help if need be.. thanks!
Wanted to ask.. I found a couple of more forum posts describing what to do..
1) https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-qualcomm-devices-oneplus-one-edition.193610/
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
Could someone please have a read and see if these are following the same steps as the links @palmbeach05 shared earlier on..
Thanks!
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Is that CM11 or CM12? I have CM11.. build 11/12 (that's Nov 12, 2014 of course).. hope this works on it.. I have a Windows 8.1 laptop but also have an old P4 desktop PC running Win XP.. I have downloaded "EFS_Professional_2.1.80_BETA.zip" and "Unlock_bands_of_your_qualcomm_device!.zip" which contains "QPST" and "mzTools".. I'm trying to make sure I understand the instructions perfectly before I take a single step.. will ask you for help if need be.. thanks!
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CM11 is fine, haven't been on that old of a build for a while. I'm on CM12 right now. The global thing works on both 11 and 12
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theenlightened1 said:
Wanted to ask.. I found a couple of more forum posts describing what to do..
1) https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-qualcomm-devices-oneplus-one-edition.193610/
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
Could someone please have a read and see if these are following the same steps as the links @palmbeach05 shared earlier on..
Thanks!
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Link #1 is OPO's steps for what I have shared. Link #2 is something i recently discovered and haven't tried. I have the day off so i can test it out and provide feedback, but its now 3 am, i've was sleeping for about 10 hrs before my last post, and the only thing on my mind right now is food lol
UPDATE #1 - After wiping modemst1 and modemst2, I attempted the unlocking of bands by editing line 1877. This method is as effective as doing it the other way with the steps that I provided.
UPDATE #2 - Editing line 441 to reflect 0xFFFF works as well, no issues to report.
UPDATE #3 - Editing line 946 to reflect 0xFFFF works, no issues. Editing line 2954 creates issues. Looking into lines 6828 and 6829 now.
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Hi,
I bought an one plus 3T in india and brought it to US. I'm getting only E not even 3G. When I enquired in T mobile/lyca store, i was told that india unlocked mobile won't support the US bands. Network upgraded. It was big surprise to me. Please suggest me how to unblock additional LTE bands in my 3T mobile.
That's not possible, you should trade your 3t A3003 for a 3t A3000 American band-unlocked model.
Check the specifications for each model under connectivity.
https://oneplus.net/us/3t/specs
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
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thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
smokin901 said:
India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
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bonham1988 said:
Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
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Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
redpoint73 said:
Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
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Talk about synchronicity eh? But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity? In the blind about these stuff, coming from a country that has only one carrier out of five who is still beta testing VoLTE.
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But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity?
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Not an expert, and had to Google that. From what I'm reading, lower frequency (MHz) has better penetration (through buildings, etc.) while higher frequency bands have higher data capacity.
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
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There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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No you can't switch but you can unlock some bands which might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
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as I said I dont see any reason for it to work
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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Why aren't all bands just enabled by default then? I don't understand why there are different models for different regions.
I have a US OP3T and I'm visiting India. It''s working with Jio in India (although it supports only only of the 3 bands used by Jio) but VoLTE doesn't work for some reason.
Need help figuring this one out. I just got last week while visiting Illinois a P30 Pro L04 that is from Telcel Mexico. Got it from a coworker that lives in Mexico. It is unlocked and I am using in T-mobile ever since. I live in Puerto Rico where Tmobile has Band 4-66-71 for LTE. My previous phone is an Note 9 that I love and still think is better in some ways that the P30 specially in the software side. The cameras in the P30 are spectacular and step way above the Note 9. Long story short my P30 won't connect to band 66, only band 4. It is supposedly supported but it doesn't connect to it. I put my sim card back in the Note 9 and it does connect to band 66 as it used to. So it is definitively the P30 Pro problem. Does anyone know a way to verify what Bands are supported on the phone and see if it Telcel that blocked the band 66. Or maybe the P30 does NOT support band 66 as claimed? Does anyone has a L04 and can connect to band 66? I am new to Huawei phones and don't know what tool are available to verify this things.
I think you might be seeing 66 on your note, but it still really 4. (4 is a sub frequency of 66)
The 66 you're referring to will specify AWS-3. An app like network cell info on the play store should specify - though will likely only work on the Note assuming it's the snapdragon variant.
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I think you might be seeing 66 on your note, but it still really 4. (4 is a sub frequency of 66)
The 66 you're referring to will specify AWS-3. An app like network cell info on the play store should specify - though will likely only work on the Note assuming it's the snapdragon variant.
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Do you care to elaborate a little more so I can fully understand. Yes my note 9 is the snapdragon variant from Tmobile. I am using the Network Cell Info Lite App and it does show connections to LTE bands 2, 4, 66 and 71 on the note. depending on the place I am around my apt or outside. The P30 Pro only show connections to LTE bands 2 and 4 connections. I understand that bands 66 and 4 are related as they are the same frequencies , but still band 66 should give me better speeds and better connection as shall be not as congested., more blocks, etc. The Network Cell Info (at least the lite version) does not give me anything about the AWS of the band.
So my questions for you or anyone else are:
Are you saying that band 66 won't show on the P30 Pro even if it is connected to it?
Do you know of an engineering menu to really verify that the phone support band 66?
One of my main interest and one that may help a lot of people is to establish if the phone really support band 66 as claimed for this variant?
and if it does, does Telcel disable that support?
if they did, maybe with a generic firmware modem we can get it back?
Thanks in advance
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Do you care to elaborate a little more so I can fully understand. Yes my note 9 is the snapdragon variant from Tmobile. I am using the Network Cell Info Lite App and it does show connections to LTE bands 2, 4, 66 and 71 on the note. depending on the place I am around my apt or outside. The P30 Pro only show connections to LTE bands 2 and 4 connections. I understand that bands 66 and 4 are related as they are the same frequencies , but still band 66 should give me better speeds and better connection as shall be not as congested., more blocks, etc. The Network Cell Info (at least the lite version) does not give me anything about the AWS of the band.
So my questions for you or anyone else are:
Are you saying that band 66 won't show on the P30 Pro even if it is connected to it?
Do you know of an engineering menu to really verify that the phone support band 66?
One of my main interest and one that may help a lot of people is to establish if the phone really support band 66 as claimed for this variant?
and if it does, does Telcel disable that support?
if they did, maybe with a generic firmware modem we can get it back?
Thanks in advance
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I do not currently have a P30 Pro, so can't speak definitively. (Sold my L29 and have an L04 on the way) I asked about the snapdragon variant because these devices are generally the only that will properly break out band information for you to look at.
The answer to your question is a bit convoluted due to the fact that band 66 includes band 4. These are the AWS bands - band 2 is PCS, 3 DCS, etc. Some devices may tell you that you're connected to 66, but you are in fact connected to 4. (see here for a better definition: https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570 ) If you look closely here, you will see that band 4 and 66 include the same frequencies, but 4 is specific to blocks A-F and 66 includes blocks A-J. Say, you're connected to block C, your phone could be telling you that you're connected to 4 or 66 - both would be correct, its just how the manufacturer has told the software to relay this information.
What you're wanting to validate is that you're connected to the "new/faster" part of band 66, which will be displayed as AWS3 for AT&T. On the RAW tab within network cell information (on your note) it should have the band info and then corresponding block information. If your Note is reading 66 (AWS13) this will probably show as band 4 on your P30 Pro, as it is technically .. band 4. If you are seeing 66 (AWS3) this means you are genuinely connected to the part of 66 you're after. If you see this on your Note and your P30 Pro is still showing band 4, I would suspect that your theory regarding P30 Pro band 66 support is correct. (aka.. not functioning)
Hope this helps.
Goronok said:
I do not currently have a P30 Pro, so can't speak definitively. (Sold my L29 and have an L04 on the way) I asked about the snapdragon variant because these devices are generally the only that will properly break out band information for you to look at.
The answer to your question is a bit convoluted due to the fact that band 66 includes band 4. These are the AWS bands - band 2 is PCS, 3 DCS, etc. Some devices may tell you that you're connected to 66, but you are in fact connected to 4. (see here for a better definition: https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570 ) If you look closely here, you will see that band 4 and 66 include the same frequencies, but 4 is specific to blocks A-F and 66 includes blocks A-J. Say, you're connected to block C, your phone could be telling you that you're connected to 4 or 66 - both would be correct, its just how the manufacturer has told the software to relay this information.
What you're wanting to validate is that you're connected to the "new/faster" part of band 66, which will be displayed as AWS3 for AT&T. On the RAW tab within network cell information (on your note) it should have the band info and then corresponding block information. If your Note is reading 66 (AWS13) this will probably show as band 4 on your P30 Pro, as it is technically .. band 4. If you are seeing 66 (AWS3) this means you are genuinely connected to the part of 66 you're after. If you see this on your Note and your P30 Pro is still showing band 4, I would suspect that your theory regarding P30 Pro band 66 support is correct. (aka.. not functioning)
Hope this helps.
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Yes it helps a ton. I had to buy the full version of the Network Cell info to get the AWS information, not showing the Lite version.
The note 9 is reading band 66 (AWS13) in Tmobile. With the same simcard and location the P30 reads Band 4(AWS1). So I can't really say if the P30 Pro it is not connecting to band 66. I guess will be good if you give me a follow up once you get your P30 Pro L04 and you happen to be in an area with "real" band 66 support.
Thanks because I am sure this info is good for those that has this variant, or those that want to get one especially if its going to factor into their decision.
ellopr said:
Yes it helps a ton. I had to buy the full version of the Network Cell info to get the AWS information, not showing the Lite version.
The note 9 is reading band 66 (AWS13) in Tmobile. With the same simcard and location the P30 reads Band 4(AWS1). So I can't really say if the P30 Pro it is not connecting to band 66. I guess will be good if you give me a follow up once you get your P30 Pro L04 and you happen to be in an area with "real" band 66 support.
Thanks because I am sure this info is good for those that has this variant, or those that want to get one especially if its going to factor into their decision.
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For sure. I also bought the L04 variant for B66, so I'm hopeful that this band is indeed active. I will let you know what I find out.
Let me know if you run across AWS3 to validate too.
I've had my L04 P30 pro all over Chicago and St Louis the past few days (in areas I know have b66 coverage) and have yet to see the device pickup it up once.
My only thoughts are that the device only activates b66 once properly provisioned by Telus on their networks, or that AT&T will only tell certain devices to grab the band that they know have proper hardware for. (Internal database of devices, etc) I'm genuinely curious if any Tmobile people are able to pickup the band; generally Tmobile is more lax about these requirements.
Either way, b66 isn't supported on AT&T on my particular L04.
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I've had my L04 P30 pro all over Chicago and St Louis the past few days (in areas I know have b66 coverage) and have yet to see the device pickup it up once.
My only thoughts are that the device only activates b66 once properly provisioned by Telus on their networks, or that AT&T will only tell certain devices to grab the band that they know have proper hardware for. (Internal database of devices, etc) I'm genuinely curious if any Tmobile people are able to pickup the band; generally Tmobile is more lax about these requirements.
Either way, b66 isn't supported on AT&T on my particular L04.
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At least in different place in Puerto Rico it is the same, only band 4. I shall be in Chicago area also probably in like a month and in Mexico. Will take my note 9 with me to make sure I am in AWS 3 to see if I get band 66. if not then something is right with the phones having band 66 blocked.
Thanks for the update
Hello everybody!
I have bought an unlocked VZW S10 5G from the US and I'm using it in Spain with Movistar as a carrier.
I have a big permanent question on my mind and I can't seem to find a right answer to it anywhere on the web.
As far as I know, the modem this phone has is the Qualcomm X50 modem, which is supposed to be for both Sub6 and mmWave bands (https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-x50-5g-modem). Nevertheless, Samsung only lists mmWave frequencies on their specs page (see specs at the end of the page https://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/galaxy-s10-5g-verizon/)
I know that here in Europe we are not deploying 5G the same way it has been done in the US, since the bands that are becoming available are Sub6.
Eventhough it's currently poorly deployed here in Spain, the only band that is available at the moment is the one at 3500 MHz (n78, I think). I've read they'll soon make the band at 700 MHz available, too.
When using the Samsung Selection app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection), I only see the bands n260 and n261, which I know are the available mmWave bands in the US, and the B bands that are used for 4G/LTE and previous.
My questions are the following:
1. Will I ever be able to connect to 5G through some LTE bands or won't that be possible?
2. Could it be that Verizon has disabled the sub6 bands for this phone via SW?
3. Could I use B bands at the same frequency instead? For example, the b42 band, which is also at 3500 MHz, is not listed, but maybe in the near future when the 700 MHz band gets released, will I be able to use the the b12 band, which is also 700 MHz?
I would appreciate any contributions you could make!
Thanks a lot in advance!
1. No you can't use 5G in Spain with this phone because it doesn't support 5G band n78.
2. Modems are configured by Qualcomm and you can't just modify these because these are signed.
3. No you can't really...
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But my advise if you like have 5G in Spain, then you need European version of Samsung phone.