What you are going to do after reciving your OP3T ? - OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers

Hello Everyone
I would like to open a discussion about what usually every one do after receiving their new devices ROOT,Launchers,xposed, etc,,
I'm getting my device today so i don't know what exactly i have to do (wait for nougat releasing , which app i need to backup with etc..)
feel free to share our experience i guess many ppl wants to know
Best regards

Unlocking Bootloader, flashing TWRP. Maybe installing xposed, but I dont know yet. Just need it for Youtube adblock

Wanting something stable, maybe just root for now

First of all you should unlock your bootloader, because that will require a full wipe and that can be annoying if you start setting up your device and then have to wipe everything. Then, you could install TWRP and root your device, but since that does not require a full wipe, you don't have to do it immediately, if you don't want to.

Did root +xposed and ARISE sound mod. Everything nice and fast also installed adaway etc
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I usually unlock and root, but this thing has so much customization stock, that I'm leaving it alone so I can use Android pay.

Absolutely nothing. I haven't felt the need to root or unlock bootloader with OP3 or this one.

Agree with the two posts above.
I decided to not touch it so I can give Android Pay ago as well as use my banks app which blocks root.

ignorant question...
Do AdBlockers need root to run, or only to install?
ie. can you
- root
- install XYZ
- unroot? (with AdBlock still working)
and then be able to still use Google Pay, etc?

zim2dive said:
ignorant question...
Do AdBlockers need root to run, or only to install?
ie. can you
- root
- install XYZ
- unroot? (with AdBlock still working)
and then be able to still use Google Pay, etc?
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run

I flashed twrp, rooted and running some exposed modules . Waiting on some Roms.

My plan is to wait a week and then flash TWRP, root Oxygen with SuperSU, and maybe install Xposed. I really want root for AdAway because mobile ads are awful. I will be doing this all this weekend hopefully.
My only concern is that once we get Nougat, there is no Xposed for 7.0+. Killing me to not ask for a timeline on when we could expect a release.

Unlock boot loader install twrp, root, moab,xposed. Then wait for a good stable cm maybe use a custom rom(ehhhhmmmm darkobas).

Unlock the bootloader, custom recovery, root it and install xposed with some adblockers
Edit: and viper4android

dewa710 said:
Unlock the bootloader, custom recovery, root it and install xposed with some adblockers
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Yes...twrp ..root ..gmd gesture..adaway..viper4arise...and new nougat ROMs to flash....

I'm sure I'm gonna do things that will brick the device for at least 2 times. No full customization, no life

hi guys! my OP3T delivered me between 5th and 12th december if oneplus keep this date
first i will do unlock bootloader, root and flash twrp. then i will look what comes ^^ can i use this guide also for the OP3T to unlock bootloader, root and flash a custom recovery?
after two years of using my lovely great OPO, i get an new great smartphone from oneplus so i hope the OP3T arrive me fast!

justibasa said:
I usually unlock and root, but this thing has so much customization stock, that I'm leaving it alone so I can use Android pay.
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So........I lied. Being the crackflasher I am, I unlocked and flashed a kernel today. But that's all I'm doing, I promise, maybe. ?

fluke87 said:
First of all you should unlock your bootloader, because that will require a full wipe and that can be annoying if you start setting up your device and then have to wipe everything. Then, you could install TWRP and root your device, but since that does not require a full wipe, you don't have to do it immediately, if you don't want to.
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Yeah wish I'd seen this earlier
Setting it all up for the second time tonight

zim2dive said:
ignorant question...
Do AdBlockers need root to run, or only to install?
ie. can you
- root
- install XYZ
- unroot? (with AdBlock still working)
and then be able to still use Google Pay, etc?
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No AdBlock needs root. Search blockada I use it even as I'm rooted as you can turn on and off the ad block allowing me to use specific price apps.
When I receive mine today will update, unlock my bootloader, root and install this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/development/kernel-tyranus-kernel-t3507267.

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HTC One Dev Editon ROOT?

Hi, I know it may have been foolish of me to get the Dev edition and im not a dev but it's unlocked, more storage and i think it was the better choice.
With that being said, is there a way to root this device permanently? I see there's an HTC One toolkit but it seems to be only for the ones with the Bootloader locked. This bootloader is unlocked so is there a thread yall can direct me to in order to root and flash a custom rom?
I'd appreciate it Folks
stepinmyworld said:
Hi, I know it may have been foolish of me to get the Dev edition and im not a dev but it's unlocked, more storage and i think it was the better choice.
With that being said, is there a way to root this device permanently? I see there's an HTC One toolkit but it seems to be only for the ones with the Bootloader locked. This bootloader is unlocked so is there a thread yall can direct me to in order to root and flash a custom rom?
I'd appreciate it Folks
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you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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Thank you! Awesome
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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One more stupid question about Dev edition: will I be able to flash mods/apps from zip files using custom recovery, without rooting the phone/installing custom rooted ROM? There is a reason I don't want to root - my corporate mail will not work on rooted device, then I will need to use something like Voodoo OTA Root keeper and hide my root all the time, then restore it when I need, do what I need and after it I will need to re-install corporate email and re-enroll to company's server, in order to not get in trouble with company's Information Security, which I do not want.
I am not so interested in custom ROMs, but do interested in few mods and addons that will definitely come soon (e.g. separation of Ringtones sound level from Notification, battery charge percent on the battery icon in status bar, etc)
Thanks!
EugeneR said:
One more stupid question about Dev edition: will I be able to flash mods/apps from zip files using custom recovery, without rooting the phone/installing custom rooted ROM? There is a reason I don't want to root - my corporate mail will not work on rooted device, then I will need to use something like Voodoo OTA Root keeper and hide my root all the time, then restore it when I need, do what I need and after it I will need to re-install corporate email and re-enroll to company's server, in order to not get in trouble with company's Information Security, which I do not want.
I am not so interested in custom ROMs, but do interested in few mods and addons that will definitely come soon (e.g. separation of Ringtones sound level from Notification, battery charge percent on the battery icon in status bar, etc)
Thanks!
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well i don't think so... if you do not want to be rooted you have to remain with the stock rom and i don't know if every mod is compatible with that
Root issues
matt95 said:
you don't need to root it, just flash a recovery and then a custom rom and then you'll have a rooted device cause custom roms are all rooted
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I did the same. I just flashed CWM Touch Recovery and Superuser, but AdAway disables every time I reboot and I can't get rid of the Google Bloatware and FB/Twitter - which I don't use. I tried deleting them using ES File Explorer, but they come back every time I reboot. Please help. I hate having the bloatware and knowing that it takes up almost 150 MB makes me mad!!!
/system has kernel protection and you need to flash either a kernel or rom that disables it.
Ah!
gunnyman said:
/system has kernel protection and you need to flash either a kernel or rom that disables it.
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Ah! I see. Do you know of any kernel that I can safely flash and not break my phone? It's only a week old and I don't want to end up bricking it or something. Also, do you know if I can still receive OTA updates from HTC? Whenever they do come out, that is. Sorry to be asking such a noob-ish question..
Also, is that the same reason AdAway gets auto-disabled at every boot?
Faux123 has a great kernel, and yes the hosts file gets reset for the same reason.
gunnyman said:
Faux123 has a great kernel, and yes the hosts file gets reset for the same reason.
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Can you please tell me what the potential issues are, if I flash the kernel? Also, please let me know about the OTA updates and if it'll work after rooting and/or flashing a new kernel. Thank you!
Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
IIHomieII said:
Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Thank you for allaying my fears. I flashed the faux123 kernel because it was suggested "first!" Working fine now. I rebooted and the apps haven't come back after uninstalling them. Thank you so so much for educating me!
PS: How do I Thank you officially? Is there some thank button on here?
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IIHomieII said:
Flash the kernel known as elemental X. It seems to have zero issues, I've been running it for a while now and the only difference is I am fully rooted with this kernel.AS far as OTA updates..
well whenever you unlock the bootloader at HTC's website it will definitely reset a non developer edition phone to factory defaults and from there it will remove calculator and a couple of other apps so that HTC knows you're no longer boot loader locked and yes this will prevent OTA updates.
since yours came with an unlocked bootloader in theory you could just flash the kernel and from there when you install SuperSU you will be able to do anything you need to do. With SuperSU you can temporarily turn off root so that you can do things that would normally be prevented/notice that you are rooted.
The Redbox streaming video service app is an example, it will not work on rooted devices but if you go in the SuperSU app and turn on temporary un-root. Then you are able to load the app, watch a show then close the app and restore root all without rebooting..
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Thank button found and clicked!

Nexus 5 root with kingoroot apk

Ive uploaded a fully working root method of kingoroot that roots the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 LMY48B firmware
I have used it myself with uk stock nexus 5 and all works just thought i would upload so other people can benefit from this instead of using a pc enjoy
anyone tested this yet? i am to scared to try xD
thankyoumr said:
anyone tested this yet? i am to scared to try xD
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working fine.. tested by me
Yes, this can also root from COMPLETE stock without the need of a computer of any kind. May want to add that to thread title if possible to let others know it can be used to root LMY48B(At Least) without the need of a computer to unlock bootloader first and without the need of a custom recovery first. Just install Kingroot then use KingUser(I Believe That Is The Super User App It Installs, Do NOT Install Another SuperUser App Yet Until After Custom Recovery Installed) and use KingUser to allow custom recovery App permissions to install recovery then use that recovery to install SuperUser binaries properly.
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Why? It's a Nexus.
fastboot oem unlock
flash supersu zip file.
GldRush98 said:
Why? It's a Nexus.
fastboot oem unlock
flash supersu zip file.
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He just said why on the first post...lol
So you dont need a pc
Its just an easier method if you ask me and for unlocking bootloader you just need to download the nexus 5 unlock bootloader app from google play to unlock bootloader then just install twrp manager from google play and theres your root bootloader unlock and custom recovery but thats upto the user as other people do it there way
It's remarkable what I'm willing to download and install from XDA sometimes.
Anyway, it certainly rooted my device without needing to hook it up to a PC. Threw two "this is bypassing android security" messages. Hope it didn't do anything else :/
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This also leaves you with an app called Kinguser, which is used to grant root permission to other apps, which can't be removed.
I think I'll feel better if I wipe and start over...
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This also leaves you with an app called Kinguser, which is used to grant root permission to other apps, which can't be removed.
I think I'll feel better if I wipe and start over...
All you do is use KingUser to grant permission to TWRP Manager to install TWRP and then use SuperSU to install SU through recovery THEN you can easily use SuperSU to grant permissions to any app that'll allow you to remove KingUser. That way you always have an app that can grant SU at all times without going ANY time at all without a SuoerUser app
EPayne123 said:
All you do is use KingUser to grant permission to TWRP Manager to install TWRP and then use SuperSU to install SU through recovery THEN you can easily use SuperSU to grant permissions to any app that'll allow you to remove KingUser. That way you always have an app that can grant SU at all times without going ANY time at all without a SuoerUser app
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Tried that but SuperSU kept failing to install. Ended up just wiping and going from scratch. The whole Kingroot sending data home to a server just didn't sit well with me. I know they've addressed that they do it to keep track of success rates and don't collect any personal data.
rbrenart said:
Tried that but SuperSU kept failing to install. Ended up just wiping and going from scratch. The whole Kingroot sending data home to a server just didn't sit well with me. I know they've addressed that they do it to keep track of success rates and don't collect any personal data.
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Failed to install returning SuperSU?
Will this wipe all data the way unlocking the bootloader does?
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ddimple4 said:
Will this wipe all data the way unlocking the bootloader does?
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No, wiping data only happens when you unlock bootloader through the bootloader. . . not through the OS. I believe only of you use the Farnborough method instead of manually doing so inside of OS
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My friend has nexus 5 tmobile. Will this work? If so any additional steps?
Hi. I'm a newbie in root matter. My nexus 5 is already in LMY48b 5.1.1. Hong Kong stock ROM. So far there's only one reason I want to root it, it is to let some call recorder apps to record incoming voice clearly. So at this stage I don't need to flash any custom ROM. I dug for a certain time of course I can find many teaching how to root, but most of them look like it involves many procedures, many terms or apps, unlock bootloader, android SDK, twrp, custom recovery, etc... it makes me so scared even to give it a try. Until I saw this thread and I think the kingroot app probably the simplest one for my case! In fact I can get it done with a Chinese root way, it's also very simple but I also heard that most likely there's spyware inside so I leave it.
So what I want to make sure is my thought above is it correct? I try not to annoy you guys, any answer simply either yes or no is appreciated. Of course if you guys want to tell me more it is most welcome.
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lookgod88 said:
Hi. I'm a newbie in root matter. My nexus 5 is already in LMY48b 5.1.1. Hong Kong stock ROM. So far there's only one reason I want to root it, it is to let some call recorder apps to record incoming voice clearly. So at this stage I don't need to flash any custom ROM. I dug for a certain time of course I can find many teaching how to root, but most of them look like it involves many procedures, many terms or apps, unlock bootloader, android SDK, twrp, custom recovery, etc... it makes me so scared even to give it a try. Until I saw this thread and I think the kingroot app probably the simplest one for my case! In fact I can get it done with a Chinese root way, it's also very simple but I also heard that most likely there's spyware inside so I leave it.
So what I want to make sure is my thought above is it correct? I try not to annoy you guys, any answer simply either yes or no is appreciated. Of course if you guys want to tell me more it is most welcome.
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may be you can try the nexus toolkit, http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
beware that when unlock the bootloader all data will lost (factory reset), you can use something like helium to make a backup first (for back app data)
DummyPLUG said:
may be you can try the nexus toolkit, http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
beware that when unlock the bootloader all data will lost (factory reset), you can use something like helium to make a backup first (for back app data)
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Hi dummyplug, thank you for your reply and your referring. But I actually don't need to flash ROM, that's why I thought that I don't need to unlock the bootloader either. Do I?
lookgod88 said:
Hi dummyplug, thank you for your reply and your referring. But I actually don't need to flash ROM, that's why I thought that I don't need to unlock the bootloader either. Do I?
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The reason to unlock the bootloader is because if it is locked you can't run custom recovery (not flash, just a temp boot up with custom recovery), which is need for the root process, in short, you need to unlock the boot loader before you can do anything.
something like kingroot can bypass the need of an unlocked bootloader, so you actually can use kingroot to root your nexus first, then use those bootloader unlocker from play store to unlock the bootloader, but I will stay away from those tools because I don't trust them.
the toolkit can help you to unlock the bootloader and root, and do something else.
p.s. that means you need an unlocked bootloader to root, meanwhile can keep all other things (recovery, firmware) as stock.
DummyPLUG said:
The reason to unlock the bootloader is because if it is locked you can't run custom recovery (not flash, just a temp boot up with custom recovery), which is need for the root process, in short, you need to unlock the boot loader before you can do anything.
something like kingroot can bypass the need of an unlocked bootloader, so you actually can use kingroot to root your nexus first, then use those bootloader unlocker from play store to unlock the bootloader, but I will stay away from those tools because I don't trust them.
the toolkit can help you to unlock the bootloader and root, and do something else.
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Oh I see. Now I understand! Thank you very much. I got what I want to know.

Should I install V21 update?

I received my BLU R1 HD (non-prime version) yesterday, unlocked bootloader and rooted without any problem.
I have this V21 update waiting to be installed, will it relock bootloader or will I loose root if I install it?
I don't really care about VoLTE, but maybe the security patches worth it. Also, changelog says "Optimization system", I wonder if there's an improvement on performance.
I'm late to the party but I want to thank everyone who made possible to root this phone.
t4n017 said:
I received my BLU R1 HD (non-prime version) yesterday, unlocked bootloader and rooted without any problem.
I have this V21 update waiting to be installed, will it relock bootloader or will I loose root if I install it?
I don't really care about VoLTE, but maybe the security patches worth it. Also, changelog says "Optimization system", I wonder if there's an improvement on performance.
I'm late to the party but I want to thank everyone who made possible to root this phone.
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With root the update is likely to hang up. There is the same update already reposted for rooted device that should install no problem, just reflash SuperSU again after
mrmazak said:
With root the update is likely to hang up. There is the same update already reposted for rooted device that should install no problem, just reflash SuperSU again after
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Thanks!, your V21 is working fine. Just noticed they added more bloatware (even adware?) but can be freezed/deleted with root.
mrmazak said:
With root the update is likely to hang up. There is the same update already reposted for rooted device that should install no problem, just reflash SuperSU again after
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I'm fairly experienced with rooting phones however I have had Issues in the past and I'm only asking the following two questions to be redundantly safe.
1. my current phone is showing that I have 8 of the 16 gigs used and I am wondering, did I messed up somewhere during my "upgrade" to v17 (oem) from 6.6 (amazon) and 2. If i then flash up to v21 will i also have additional memory eaten up?
I used dirtycow method to do the initial root and unlock then after backing up in twrp flashed v17 and the settings fix as well as su. Everything runs fine and I also get the message to do the v21 update but at this moment my phone is less then 2 weeks old so i'm not sure I want to.... I do however want to free up some more of my space seeing as it initially only had 4.3 gigs of the 16 reserved
Talzoid said:
I'm fairly experienced with rooting phones however I have had Issues in the past and I'm only asking the following two questions to be redundantly safe.
1. my current phone is showing that I have 8 of the 16 gigs used and I am wondering, did I messed up somewhere during my "upgrade" to v17 (oem) from 6.6 (amazon) and 2. If i then flash up to v21 will i also have additional memory eaten up?
I used dirtycow method to do the initial root and unlock then after backing up in twrp flashed v17 and the settings fix as well as su. Everything runs fine and I also get the message to do the v21 update but at this moment my phone is less then 2 weeks old so i'm not sure I want to.... I do however want to free up some more of my space seeing as it initially only had 4.3 gigs of the 16 reserved
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--1--the twrp backup is often about 3 gb on average. so there is theextra space, more than likely.
Remember when you do a "wipe"in twrp your personal files (downloads, photos, music, etc are not removed. I often do a data format betweeen roms to get use of all thestorage,.
--2--the ota v21 is not recomended.
as you are already rooted, and bootloader unlocked, the update is likely to fail or cause a bootloop.
The modified v21 is prooven to not cause these problems. And should not cause more lose of storage unless you make a second twrp backup, then of course it will use more space then.
I can vouch for, owning 2 Blu R1HD, one using latest modified V2.5 rom, debloated & OTA disabled. Second one using modified OEM v.21 rom (non-Amazon) ... flash using TWRP & wiped clean with a factory reset. You can go back & forth between OEM & Amazon variant.
Personally, as a matter of choice & preference, I also run/install Busybox once rooted with Super SU v2.82
Does root and BL unlock work with v21? Just bought off of Amazon and wanted to see if I could root and ROM it.
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Does root and BL unlock work with v21? Just bought off of Amazon and wanted to see if I could root and ROM it.
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No, you can not root or bootloader unlock a stock v21. You can still remove most of the ad stuff though - see this thread and read all the way through to the end: https://forum.xda-developers.com/r1-hd/help/remove-ads-fresh-blu-r1-hd-t3654431

Root, set app as system apps and unroot impossible on Galaxy S7 edge Android 7.0?

Hey there!
since hours im trying to get my S7 Edge G935F unrooted after ive placed apps as system apps.
equal if i try to unroot with magisk manager options, magisk uninstaller zip in twrp while rooted with magisk or when rooted with superSU with full-unroot option im always causing a boot loop and i need to flash the rom (Android 7.0 G935FXXS2DRA9_G935FDBT1DQJ1_DBT) from new. (Ive rooted via twrp in both cases)
Now ive tried with an app from playstore called "Impactor System Unroot" to my surprise it worked! but not as good as i hoped for because now im not rooted anymore but i cant pass safety net.... im running out of ideas and i hoped someone with more knowledge and better understanding may could come up with a magic trick! i beliefe that its somehow must be possible after all.
As always thanks for your time, help and answer!
Best regards
Chris
If your device now really has all traces of root removed, it's likely that it's an unlocked bootloader that is triggering SafetyNet. You'll have to relock it, but keep in mind that this will wipe your device. And if you don't do it right you might end up with a device that can't boot at all and be quite difficult to recover...
Why though? Is it really worth the hassle?
Didgeridoohan said:
If your device now really has all traces of root removed, it's likely that it's an unlocked bootloader that is triggering SafetyNet. You'll have to relock it, but keep in mind that this will wipe your device. And if you don't do it right you might end up with a device that can't boot at all and be quite difficult to recover...
Why though? Is it really worth the hassle?
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So in other words unrooting and keeping custom system apps is not possible right? because wipe in order to relock the BL will take the away anyway
Just because of messing around more or less haha. wanted to see if i can somehow put a gps spoofer as system app and get rid of root afterwards
cmg15326 said:
So in other words unrooting and keeping custom system apps is not possible right? because wipe in order to relock the BL will take the away anyway
Just because of messing around more or less haha. wanted to see if i can somehow put a gps spoofer as system app and get rid of root afterwards
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Hehe, I am trying the same thing on my Huawei without success, tried the options you tried as well, hoping for some solution.

Question Question regarding root and updates?

Hey there guys,
I just received my s21 ultra (G998B) and planning to root it. I had a few questions since I’m new to this and wanted some clarifications:
1) If I root the phone can I update it OTA through the settings or do I have to update it by another method? Will I lose root/data/apps if I do that?
2) If I lose root when updating it, can I just root again and be all set? Or do I have to follow another procedure for that?
3) I am planning to debloat a few apps and services that I won’t be using, if I update the system/software will the stuff that I debloated come back and will I have to do the debloat again?
Thank you for all the help.
paul_cherma said:
Hey there guys,
I just received my s21 ultra (G998B) and planning to root it. I had a few questions since I’m new to this and wanted some clarifications:
1) If I root the phone can I update it OTA through the settings or do I have to update it by another method? Will I lose root/data/apps if I do that?
2) If I lose root when updating it, can I just root again and be all set? Or do I have to follow another procedure for that?
3) I am planning to debloat a few apps and services that I won’t be using, if I update the system/software will the stuff that I debloated come back and will I have to do the debloat again?
Thank you for all the help.
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1- Probably not usually the root or recovery will block OTA updates from installing, even if they download.
2- If you lose root, you can USUALLY re-root assuming the same root method wasnt patched. If it was patched, a new root method (though probably still through magisk) will be needed. If this is the case, its up to the dev to find that method, you might be without root for a while.
3-if you debloat, and receive an OTA, your will probably need to de-bloat again, thought I havent personally had experience with this.
Why are you rooting? Just to de-bloat? If so, root isn't really necessary...
As someone who's been in the rooting stage for many years, i can answer your questions.
1. You can not update your phone through OTA updates after rooting the device, as the device was modified in an unauthorized way. And since you own a galaxy phone, the e-fuse within the motherboard will blow and knox will be permanently blown. You can no longer use samsung pay, google pay, and any other app that uses the safetynet api, even after you unroot the device.
2. You will lose root every time you update. You will need ODIN on your PC in order to properly update your firmware and to re-root your device by following the procedure again that you used to root your device, unless samsung patched the method you used to root your device. You can always check what bootloader version you're on within the firmware. For example, on the galaxy S8, the firmware version is N950U1UES5CRG9. The 5th to last number of the firmware will tell you. In this case, N950U1UES5CRG9 is the 5th bootloader version. Keep this in mind once samsung starts to update your phone often.
3. You will have to debloat again from scratch. In order to fully update your device through ODIN, you need to download the full firmware file containing an AP (Firmware), BL (Bootloader) , CP (Modem), and CSC (Carrier File) and manually flash them.
Do keep in mind, it is possible to soft brick or even hard brick your device, so back up your data frequently if you decide to tinker with your device.
Thank you for the detailed answer. I just updated my software to the latest official one by Samsung (April 1st security patch) but I am not rooted yet. I guess I could live with the fact that I can root the phone now and stay on this software version/security patch until I upgrade, since I would have to go through a lot of hassle to set-up the phone the way I wanted. But the main reason why I want to get the official updates is because of the camera improvements that Samsung does, since the main reason of me getting this phone is the camera. And there are some root-required tweaks that I absolutely need such as Viper, and some xposed tweaks also. I like the Stock ROM of Samsung, it really has come a long way at least imo throughout the years, as I have been a Samsung user since day 1 but:
Would it be a good idea to install a custom ROM then? I am reading the description of a few custom ROMs and it seems like I can “retain everything” by simply dirty flashing the ROM and following the dev’s instructions on how to retain root whenever the developer updates it. Is that a better route to take you think? I can keep my device rooted, and still get the updates through a custom ROM.
paul_cherma said:
Thank you for the detailed answer. I just updated my software to the latest official one by Samsung (April 1st security patch) but I am not rooted yet. I guess I could live with the fact that I can root the phone now and stay on this software version/security patch until I upgrade, since I would have to go through a lot of hassle to set-up the phone the way I wanted. But the main reason why I want to get the official updates is because of the camera improvements that Samsung does, since the main reason of me getting this phone is the camera. And there are some root-required tweaks that I absolutely need such as Viper, and some xposed tweaks also. I like the Stock ROM of Samsung, it really has come a long way at least imo throughout the years, as I have been a Samsung user since day 1 but:
Would it be a good idea to install a custom ROM then? I am reading the description of a few custom ROMs and it seems like I can “retain everything” by simply dirty flashing the ROM and following the dev’s instructions on how to retain root whenever the developer updates it. Is that a better route to take you think? I can keep my device rooted, and still get the updates through a custom ROM.
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That really varies depending on the custom rom you go for. Usually when you dirty flash a rom, you would need to re root your device, but some (not all) roms are persistent with root after system updates. Do keep in mind if you switch to a custom rom, your system might be more buggy and crash more often. One thing i will say though is that xposed is outdated. The last android version xposed officially supported was either 8 or 9. When it has to come down to certain mods you'd wish to have with root, take that into consideration too, as it might make your device really unstable if it's too outdated or if there's a buggy port available. I've dealt with that issue too many times on my phones.
HighOnLinux said:
That really varies depending on the custom rom you go for. Usually when you dirty flash a rom, you would need to re root your device, but some (not all) roms are persistent with root after system updates. Do keep in mind if you switch to a custom rom, your system might be more buggy and crash more often. One thing i will say though is that xposed is outdated. The last android version xposed officially supported was either 8 or 9. When it has to come down to certain mods you'd wish to have with root, take that into consideration too, as it might make your device really unstable if it's too outdated or if there's a buggy port available. I've dealt with that issue too many times on my phones.
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if xposed is outdated, what is the new thing the comunity is migrating to? All the privacy, security, and customizability tools available through xposed must go somewhere, right?
Twodordan said:
if xposed is outdated, what is the new thing the comunity is migrating to? All the privacy, security, and customizability tools available through xposed must go somewhere, right?
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There's buggy ports thats flashable on magisk. While you still can get xposed, it'll be an unofficial version, and more likely to run into issues within your rom and daily use into your device.
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There's buggy ports thats flashable on magisk. While you still can get xposed, it'll be an unofficial version, and more likely to run into issues within your rom and daily use into your device.
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I mean xprivacy on xposed was the must have killer feature for any android device to turn your device into anything other than a privacy nightmare. If we can't do that any more we are f'd.
[EDIT] Looks like the new version of xprivacy, xprivacyLua is still supported for android 11, with magisk and EdXposed or LSPosed:
[CLOSED][APP][XPOSED][6.0+] XPrivacyLua - Android privacy manager [UNSUPPORTED]
XPrivacyLua Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later (successor of XPrivacy). Revoking Android permissions from apps often let apps crash or malfunction. XPrivacyLua solves this by feeding apps fake data...
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XPrivacyLua/README.md at master · M66B/XPrivacyLua
Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later - XPrivacyLua/README.md at master · M66B/XPrivacyLua
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