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How come we haven't seen a wave of aftermarket double DIN android based radio replacements yet? Android seems like the obvious platform for a new head unit. Foxconn should be able to hack the Moto Xoom's guts in to something within a week. Its even called the Xoom! Come on Mazda. All it needs is some custom sound processing and maybe an external GPS hook up and your car would be a million times more awesome. Forget an extra $2k for Sync or OnStar, you could buy a $5 app to steer your car with your phone!
Sorry that got a little rant-y there but does anyone know of any manufacturers working on this?
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How come we haven't seen a wave of aftermarket double DIN android based radio replacements yet? Android seems like the obvious platform for a new head unit. Foxconn should be able to hack the Moto Xoom's guts in to something within a week. Its even called the Xoom! Come on Mazda. All it needs is some custom sound processing and maybe an external GPS hook up and your car would be a million times more awesome. Forget an extra $2k for Sync or OnStar, you could buy a $5 app to steer your car with your phone!
Sorry that got a little rant-y there but does anyone know of any manufacturers working on this?
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You sir, have just earned your first thanks for posting this. We seldom see noobs posting something useful as a first topic, and here is proof that you are not all bad.
Back on topic:
I've been thinking about the same thing, maybe we can just hack it in like a car XBMC? Any car nut think that this will be possible?
Ya this would be awesome. I seriously wish everything I use ran android, including my toaster
Swyped via my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
twiz0r said:
Ya this would be awesome. I seriously wish everything I use ran android, including my toaster
Swyped via my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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One day, I'm gonna retire and build an entire networked house. The moment I stop snoozing my alarm, the toaster will start, the coffee machine will start, and everything else will start.
Then I'd bang my wife and drink sucky coffee, but it'll be worth it.
This could in theroy be VERY possible. Id work on it for my truck but i dont have near enoughbfunds, time, or equipment.
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Hmm... maybe with a discarded tab, a bluetooth controller/keyboard, and plugged into your car battery?
I'm liking these ideas. Integration is good and we could have Android in almost anything, controlled by our phones. Keep the ideas coming
DirkGently1 said:
I'm liking these ideas. Integration is good and we could have Android in almost anything, controlled by our phones. Keep the ideas coming
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Erm... I would think that only certain non-safety-critical stuff be controlled via Android. Like the entertainment system. I don't want my Android to FC the braking application, nor would I like the Accelerator app to have a memory overflow.
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Hmm... maybe with a discarded tab, a bluetooth controller/keyboard, and plugged into your car battery?
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With some kind of regulator/switch to keep from raping the battery when you turn the car off
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in most countries it is illegal to even watch a dvd or TOUCH your GPS now...
android in the back seat maybe... but then just get a tablet and bluetooth the sound....
I have been wondering the same thing and had searched Google extensively a few weeks ago. There is one really simple single-DIN with a tiny teeny screen that runs Android, but I want a double-DIN with 7" LCD and built-in navigation.
Perhaps the problem is the open-source nature of Android? Big companies like Pioneer, JVC, Sony, Kenwood, etc. very much want to keep their products as closed as possible. I know Pioneer is kind of like Apple, they use custom chips for everything. I have an AVIC-Z3 navigation HU, and I think the only way anyone knew it uses a Hitachi SH4 processor is by disassembling the code. All the chips are Pioneer branded with Pioneer part numbers on them.
Of course, that begs the question of why no Chinese company has come up with an Android HU. After all, it's free and far cheaper for them to use than having to write a crappy proprietary OS or using Windows CE as many do.
It's too bad there aren't any hackers in the car navigation scene. If people can figure out how to boot Android on WinMo devices, I'm pretty sure the same skill set would work on car navigation as most run Windows Automotive (WinCE).
Oh, and there do exist a few double-DIN Car PCs that normally run XP. I don't know where to actually buy one, but something like that could easily run Android. The fact that they will use an x86 processor is no biggie considering Android apps all run in the Dalvik VM.
Thanks for the thanks...I think?
Anyway I'm working on this project for my BMW. BMW's from the mid 90's to the mid 00's have a serial bus that controls all entertainment functions (volume control, mode, HVAC). It's been throughly hacked with most of the codes available around the internet. I'm designing a hardware interface based on the sparkfun IOIO (which isn't actually in production yet) to talk to the bus with samsung tab. It should replicate all stock functionality plus all of what can be done with android. And the tab fits in the stock location! Of course, it'll only work with the previous generation of BMWs so there is still room for an all purpose solution...
As for stock stereos, Chevrolet is supposed to partner with google to put android in the new Volt. Maybe that will spurr a wave of awsomeness.
Just spotted these when sourcing for an double din player.
Here you go people:
http :// cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GPS-CAR-TRUCK-ANDROID-INTERNET-REMOVABLE-Tablet-RADIO-/280686274902?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item415a34a956
TunaCanyon said:
How come we haven't seen a wave of aftermarket double DIN android based radio replacements yet? Android seems like the obvious platform for a new head unit. Foxconn should be able to hack the Moto Xoom's guts in to something within a week. Its even called the Xoom! Come on Mazda. All it needs is some custom sound processing and maybe an external GPS hook up and your car would be a million times more awesome. Forget an extra $2k for Sync or OnStar, you could buy a $5 app to steer your car with your phone!
Sorry that got a little rant-y there but does anyone know of any manufacturers working on this?
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Well seems like someone has come up with something. If you have a BMW/Audi/Merc you can get a Dynavin replacement head unit that runs android
http://www.dynavin.com/index.php
I'm not sure how customizeable it is but its out there.
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Well seems like someone has come up with something. If you have a BMW/Audi/Merc you can get a Dynavin replacement head unit that runs android
http://www.dynavin.com/index.php
I'm not sure how customizeable it is but its out there.
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Wow, nice find! Would be nice to have this in an old Fiat Panda!!!
TRusselo said:
in most countries it is illegal to even watch a dvd or TOUCH your GPS now...
android in the back seat maybe... but then just get a tablet and bluetooth the sound....
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It's legal in the great free America
boborone said:
It's legal in the great free America
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Although texting is (and should be) illegal.
I used to work with a girl and she used to drive me home at night and she had one of the first gps units... it looked like a little tv and sat on the dashboard. A cop stopped us and yelled at her for "watching tv" while driving....
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Well seems like someone has come up with something. If you have a BMW/Audi/Merc you can get a Dynavin replacement head unit that runs android
http://www.dynavin.com/index.php
I'm not sure how customizeable it is but its out there.
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damm, i want one of these. awesome find!
Been looking for something like this myself for the past 2 months. I've found a similar product (pretty much the same dynavin unit, only this one is for sale ) and it's mounted on a Rover 75 which kinda' gives me a bit of hope that it's not BMW/Merc/Audi only (I own a 2004 Passat). It's a bit too expensive for me atm but maybe someone else is interested (and has the funds to actually get it). You can also add a rear view camera and it integrates nicely with the steering wheel controls (at least that's what they say).
http :// autogpsdvds.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=135
I am very tempted to buy it but this would be my first head unit and I really want it to be an Android one (I've been really pleased with my Android phone so far). Any advice would be really appreciated. Also, how much does it usually cost to have it installed?
Does anyone have new Joying HU with surround digital amplifier? Has the sound quality improved?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFr...zWiloVA/videos
They just came out. I posted in your other thread. I have one coming tomorrow. It may be some time before you get any real feedback since they are new. Looks promising, but we learn not to get our hopes up too much.
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They just came out. I posted in your other thread. I have one coming tomorrow. It may be some time before you get any real feedback since they are new. Looks promising, but we learn not to get our hopes up too much.
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that's cool, I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the new unit
For reference:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073LF3GZP
Others should buy this so I have safety in numbers
I wouldn't expect greatness from an amp in units like this. Any good HUs that have optical out? That is probably the safest choice to get good sound out of these units.
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I wouldn't expect greatness from an amp in units like this. Any good HUs that have optical out? That is probably the safest choice to get good sound out of these units.
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Anyone seen an android unit with toslink? For what its worth method of transport has no relation to sound quality. They solve different needs. Transport is like a road. It can be smooth or bumpy, but has nothing to do with the car you drive over it. You can send crap over a toslink and the head unit would have to convert lower grade data to PCM.
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Anyone seen an android unit with toslink? For what its worth method of transport has no relation to sound quality. They solve different needs. Transport is like a road. It can be smooth or bumpy, but has nothing to do with the car you drive over it. You can send crap over a toslink and the head unit would have to convert lower grade data to PCM.
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Yes, you are correct but it is important to note how these units are built. Toslink removes the need for DAC which is the weak link. Basically, the unit reads digital media and sends digital signal to something else which has its own DAC. Decoding and sending digital signals in these HUs is done with off the shelf chipssets that either work or don't. It is binary. A cheap DAC adds a lot of artifacts and general noise to the signal. So, the reality is, a cheap HU that does toslink can yield good sound. A cheap HU with a DAC will not, because economics won't allow it. That is why I asked. To use your analogy, what is better, a smooth road paved with no seams and expansion joints or one that was paved piece meal with connectors and detours? Hope that makes sense.
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Yes, you are correct but it is important to note how these units are built. Toslink removes the need for DAC which is the weak link. Basically, the unit reads digital media and sends digital signal to something else which has its own DAC. Decoding and sending digital signals in these HUs is done with off the shelf chipssets that either work or don't. It is binary. A cheap DAC adds a lot of artifacts and general noise to the signal. So, the reality is, a cheap HU that does toslink can yield good sound. A cheap HU with a DAC will not, because economics won't allow it. That is why I asked. To use your analogy, what is better, a smooth road paved with no seams and expansion joints or one that was paved piece meal with connectors and detours? Hope that makes sense.
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Many head units that have toslink really only had it for the CD or DVD and didn't convert radio or aux etc. A few units exist that do the conversion, but its pretty slim. I really don't think anyone has the expectation that for 300 bucks you are getting something amazing. You probably do get something incrementally better than the basic stuff we have been seeing.
Discussing toslink on these units is definitely an armchair topic and pretty far from realistic even if logically is makes sense.
i am really considering that 10.1 inch Joying, it would be my third Joying, so I have a good method of comparison
Well if its like the previous Joying units you can expect about one in 3 units to fully function out of the box and that one to fail within 90 days. Cheap chinese low quality junk with no warranty support.
Second, it does not belong in this forum. Has NOTHING to do with android auto. Off topic.
CadillacMike said:
i am really considering that 10.1 inch Joying, it would be my third Joying, so I have a good method of comparison
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Do it! I need safety in numbers. I have a few others to compare that are still running.
I popped it open. I actually don't think the back is any sort of serious heatsink. The digital amp is screwed to it, but there is a gap. Video out is cables alongside the left rear usb. I'm not sure what the empty socket is between the mic and the video out. There is nothing identifying on the silver box.
I probably wont get to bench testing it until the weekend or next week.
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I popped it open. I actually don't think the back is any sort of serious heatsink. The digital amp is screwed to it, but there is a gap. Video out is cables alongside the left rear usb. I'm not sure what the empty socket is between the mic and the video out. There is nothing identifying on the silver box.
I probably wont get to bench testing it until the weekend or next week.
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Thanks for tearing into one of these... I've been really curious if that fancy looking back panel was actually a functional heatsink or not. Curious how you rank the sound quality and "no heat problem" this unit is supposed to be advertised for... Look forward to the rest of your review/testing!
I am very interested to see if there is a noticeable sound difference
My Joying died and I put in a Sony until I figure out my next move.
I was genuinely shocked at the sound improvement. And I always thought my Joying sounded great, but my speakers have come alive with the Sony
i got the 10 inch single din with an amp and DSP. I got it installed last night. only had a short drive to test it, but I think it sounds pretty great
CadillacMike said:
i got the 10 inch single din with an amp and DSP. I got it installed last night. only had a short drive to test it, but I think it sounds pretty great
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Did you get a model number on that? I had to have several emails with joying describing what I wanted with a single din and 10.1 screen. They told me to buy a certain one and then add 40 bucks and they would know what to send. Seemed weird. Just wonder if that's what you did also.
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Did you get a model number on that? I had to have several emails with joying describing what I wanted with a single din and 10.1 screen. They told me to buy a certain one and then add 40 bucks and they would know what to send. Seemed weird. Just wonder if that's what you did also.
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Not yet, mine was a replacement for my 8 inch that quit working. I emailed them asking for a specific model number so I can post it in my review
Joying now makes it clear on their site:
Note: JOYING car stereo with internal digital amplifier only can fit the car which without internal amplifier and external amplifier.
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I assume this is because there appears to be a lack of rear pre-outs, but I'm not totally clear. I did see that if you enable an external amp the controls are reverted to the old interface.
So I have had my new 10 inch unit for about 2 days, and it works great. *Bluetooth doesn't drop out, sounds awesome. *
today and only today, I was listening to music loudly, and I noticed it would drop out a bit. *I thought it was odd and looked at the screen, and I got this flash with yellow on top and some Chinese writing:
I did a reboot and it started working fine again
Right on, thanks for posting your experiences with this unit... I decided to buy an Xtrons 10.1 octacore unit because it was around $100 cheaper than the Joying with the digital amp... Heard a number of complaints about wireless sucking and stuff so I'm eyeing the Joying as a backup if the Xtrons unit goes bad or I discover some sort of weird issue. I gotta admit, I have not encountered any problems with it thus far so hopefully I won't be needing to swap it for the Joying, but its good to know it generally works pretty good (and sounds good) ... One note about the Xtrons unit, is yes the wireless does kinda suck if I'm trying to use my home wireless from the driveway, however its rock solid and fast when I'm using my phone as a hotspot, which is how it will be used 99% of the time, so I'm pretty stoked thats not an issue!
Anyways, thanks again for the info guys!
Im looking to get an android based head unit for my 2004 Chevy Tahoe and not sure where to start. I see so many of them and a lot of them have very mixed reviews and I dont want to end up with junk.
What I do want:
Something with dual bluetooth so I can do mainly calls and occasional music and also have my OBDII scanner hooked up.
Rootable, not too concerned about custom roms but would be fun to play around with
Would prefer to have a CD/DVD drive but not a huge must.
Must have Steering wheel controls also.
I have been looking at a few Pumpkin units but just not sure what one to get. I was also looking at the Joying but they dont seem to make any real standard double din head units. They all seem to be vehicle specific. Any advice would be great. Thanks.
Try Xtrons unit on eBay I have one in my 2008 Tahoe and man it's a great unit
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I ended up getting the ATOTO A6. It should be here today. I got the 2gig/32gig model. Plus I picked it up on Amazon and if its junk or anything, they have a pretty awesome return policy with stuff. First order of business will be to try and root it cause I cant leave well enough alone. haha
I don't know where to post this so I'm posting here due to the amount of other Erisin posts.
I'm in the middle of looking for a double din head unit for my Rav4, this Erisin ES4763C head unit has come up on eBay / Erisin website when googled.
After reading a lot of reviews its putting me off spending around £250 on this head unit with camera, reverse camera, DAB+ etc.
I'm after a head unit that will do almost everything and it seems to fit the bill.
I'm wanting to know are they easily fixable, are they able to refund money if said item is broken? I'll be paying via PayPal to get some protection.
I like to research before I plunge in. Youtube videos seem to have helped a bit on what they do and they seem ok.
Would you recommend buying one or should I stay clear? - Just don't want to end up looking like Homer Simpson in my car with separate things like dash cam, satnav and bluetooth headset. (Season 14, episode 20.) (google "homer simpson car gadgets" since im not allowed to post links yet.)
After a bit more research, I've come across Xtrons PCD67HGT that does all the same stuff as Erisin but without the TV option. (But who drives with TV on?)
I honestly don't know which head unit to go for.
I'm after a head unit that can do these:
DAB+
Dash cam record + speed
Sat Nav
Reverse camera
Hands free phone
Steering wheel control
WiFi + 4G (or connect to phones 4G. Is this possible? So I don't have to buy another sim card?)
DVD + mirroring for back passengers.
What head units are there for me? Vehicle is a RAV4 2004 gen 2 D-4D.
I have around £260 to spend.
Thank you.
Zenlot said:
I don't know where to post this so I'm posting here due to the amount of other Erisin posts.
I'm in the middle of looking for a double din head unit for my Rav4, this Erisin ES4763C head unit has come up on eBay / Erisin website when googled.
After reading a lot of reviews its putting me off spending around £250 on this head unit with camera, reverse camera, DAB+ etc.
I'm after a head unit that will do almost everything and it seems to fit the bill.
I'm wanting to know are they easily fixable, are they able to refund money if said item is broken? I'll be paying via PayPal to get some protection.
I like to research before I plunge in. Youtube videos seem to have helped a bit on what they do and they seem ok.
Would you recommend buying one or should I stay clear? - Just don't want to end up looking like Homer Simpson in my car with separate things like dash cam, satnav and bluetooth headset. (Season 14, episode 20.) (google "homer simpson car gadgets" since im not allowed to post links yet.)
After a bit more research, I've come across Xtrons PCD67HGT that does all the same stuff as Erisin but without the TV option. (But who drives with TV on?)
I honestly don't know which head unit to go for.
I'm after a head unit that can do these:
DAB+
Dash cam record + speed
Sat Nav
Reverse camera
Hands free phone
Steering wheel control
WiFi + 4G (or connect to phones 4G. Is this possible? So I don't have to buy another sim card?)
DVD + mirroring for back passengers.
What head units are there for me? Vehicle is a RAV4 2004 gen 2 D-4D.
I have around £260 to spend.
Thank you.
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honestly stay away from any HU from china... they are all headaches one way or another. Go with something expensive.. like alpines andriod unit.. your looking at 1200 CAN. but w9rth every dime i sure wish i did and i use to install them for a living.
I got a seicane s0480.. had a bad circuitboard they sent me a new one.. now i cant use my screen..
Eonon have issues they all do. Spend your money on something worth it with less hassle
Im using Xtrons TA701PL and it really runs like a charm.
Some of the most important setups are there, and its got expansion slots for everything and then some.
Sound is way better than i expected, perhaps some would argue that the amp is a little to the lower side, but its still able to blast out your speakers if you want to.
Ive tried a various amount of the unbranded CH HU´s from Ebay/Amazon, but nothing compares to Xtrons, i even had one of these unbranded ones having 20 mins to open spotify!, on my Xtrons, its there allmost instant.
Support wise, they do have a forum, but its one of those forums where you cant just post anyways, but they have to allow your post to be shown, so its 110% useless, BUT they do have a online chat, where you allso can leave an email, and they do respond pretty quickly.
I had 1 issue with mine, a faulty cable, and they sendt me a new one, at no charge.
Only real wierd issue software wise i have, is some apps seems to see BT as turned off, this seems to be a trend among Android HU´s, every single one ive tried has this, it can sometimes interferer with some apps that need BT to be activated.
I bought mine directly at Xtrons
Impetuz said:
Im using Xtrons TA701PL and it really runs like a charm.
Some of the most important setups are there, and its got expansion slots for everything and then some.
Sound is way better than i expected, perhaps some would argue that the amp is a little to the lower side, but its still able to blast out your speakers if you want to.
Ive tried a various amount of the unbranded CH HU´s from Ebay/Amazon, but nothing compares to Xtrons, i even had one of these unbranded ones having 20 mins to open spotify!, on my Xtrons, its there allmost instant.
Support wise, they do have a forum, but its one of those forums where you cant just post anyways, but they have to allow your post to be shown, so its 110% useless, BUT they do have a online chat, where you allso can leave an email, and they do respond pretty quickly.
I had 1 issue with mine, a faulty cable, and they sendt me a new one, at no charge.
Only real wierd issue software wise i have, is some apps seems to see BT as turned off, this seems to be a trend among Android HU´s, every single one ive tried has this, it can sometimes interferer with some apps that need BT to be activated.
I bought mine directly at Xtrons
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Im close to buying the PA77HGTP, reverse camera, DVR camera comes to around £251. I'm close to clicking the button but something's putting me off. They recently brought out 8.0 with 4gb ram. But doesn't fit my car
There's no videos etc for showing the newer Xtrons working that I can find.
Hmm just don't know what to do.
Zenlot said:
Im close to buying the PA77HGTP, reverse camera, DVR camera comes to around £251. I'm close to clicking the button but something's putting me off. They recently brought out 8.0 with 4gb ram. But doesn't fit my car
There's no videos etc for showing the newer Xtrons working that I can find.
Hmm just don't know what to do.
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Im quite happy with using the 7.1 models, all i wanted was the dual app function on the screen, so i can have spotify and traffic on at the same time
Zenlot said:
I don't know where to post this so I'm posting here due to the amount of other Erisin posts.
I'm in the middle of looking for a double din head unit for my Rav4, this Erisin ES4763C head unit has come up on eBay / Erisin website when googled.
After reading a lot of reviews its putting me off spending around £250 on this head unit with camera, reverse camera, DAB+ etc.
I'm after a head unit that will do almost everything and it seems to fit the bill.
I'm wanting to know are they easily fixable, are they able to refund money if said item is broken? I'll be paying via PayPal to get some protection.
I like to research before I plunge in. Youtube videos seem to have helped a bit on what they do and they seem ok.
Would you recommend buying one or should I stay clear? - Just don't want to end up looking like Homer Simpson in my car with separate things like dash cam, satnav and bluetooth headset. (Season 14, episode 20.) (google "homer simpson car gadgets" since im not allowed to post links yet.)
After a bit more research, I've come across Xtrons PCD67HGT that does all the same stuff as Erisin but without the TV option. (But who drives with TV on?)
I honestly don't know which head unit to go for.
I'm after a head unit that can do these:
DAB+
Dash cam record + speed
Sat Nav
Reverse camera
Hands free phone
Steering wheel control
WiFi + 4G (or connect to phones 4G. Is this possible? So I don't have to buy another sim card?)
DVD + mirroring for back passengers.
What head units are there for me? Vehicle is a RAV4 2004 gen 2 D-4D.
I have around £260 to spend.
Thank you.
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Main question is: how good are you at DIY electronics? If not good at all you might want to consider buying a unit from a specialized company that will also set it up in your car.
After using several chinese HUs here are my findings:
All the units I have seen have low quality glossy LCD screens. If you live in a sunny area don't expect to see anything on the screen.
There is no QC at the end of the production cycle. That is why people receive units with non functioning screens or get weird errors from units with bad internal connections.
System architecture is unnecessarily complicated AND has serious limitations. For example you cannot: use a BT dongle or use a generic camera with the DVR app.
Bluetooth phone connections are generally of poor quality.
Some 4G modems work, others don't - no drivers.
Dual-zone (i.e having satnav on the HU screen and play a movie on the back screens) isn't generally available and you should specifically ask for that.
Steering wheel controls work as long as you have a resistive- type SWC. If not, additional modules are required.
Older units (with Android 4.4 or 5.1) have too little RAM and may become extremely slow.
With that said you can still find good value for money, just make sure you talk to the seller before paying anything and confirm every single feature for your specific car model. Chinese will answer any question before sale and pretty much disappear after sale.
I cannot comment on DAB+, never used it.
Greeting all,
I'm sorry if this the wrong section.
I was searching for a new head unit to buy, my goal is for a double din unit integrated on the Dash not the float one,
looks like the best is will be earther Pioneer or Sony "XAV-AX7000", but...
I was thinking, if there is an Android Head unit that :
Matching Pioneer/Sony Quality
Native Android Auto support
a native support that deal natively with Voice and Phone handling.
your input is very approached.
MAJED.y said:
Greeting all,
I'm sorry if this the wrong section.
I was searching for a new head unit to buy, my goal is for a double din unit integrated on the Dash not the float one,
looks like the best is will be earther Pioneer or Sony "XAV-AX7000", but...
I was thinking, if there is an Android Head unit that :
Matching Pioneer/Sony Quality
Native Android Auto support
a native support that deal natively with Voice and Phone handling.
your input is very approached.
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There isn't one.
Also, the grey market head units are not Android auto. If you can accept bugs and happy with hobbyist level units, the largely chinese repurposed Android units can be ok.
If you want supported quality, genuine branded and/or Android auto is for you.
marchnz said:
There isn't one.
Also, the grey market head units are not Android auto. If you can accept bugs and happy with hobbyist level units, the largely chinese repurposed Android units can be ok.
If you want supported quality, genuine branded and/or Android auto is for you.
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Thank you for your input,
I would ask you what is the best Headunit out there based on your experience ?
there are too many.
things I like
HU to be clean look, less bezel as possible
Solid Bluetooth Call performance.
Support for Dark/Day theme
I'll throw in my 2c here. I find "supported" an interesting statement. If you mean warranty(DOA, or breaks in 6 months) then i guess you can call Sony and the Likes "supported". If you however you mean gets updates, can talk(chat) with someone when things are not working right, or for that matter actually get's new features.... well as the not so proud owner of a mid ranged Android Auto Wireless "mainstream" head unit, you better like how it works when you plug it in because that's it! you're done, you won't get updates, you won't get fixes, you won't get new features.
As the proud owner of a new Android Head Unit, is the warranty worth the paper it's printed on? hopefully I never need to find out. Beyond that, I've been chatting with the manufacturer almost every day getting help resolving issues. My firmware is less than a month old, If I want something new I install it from the the Play store. The unit is custom fit to my car and looks more OEM than the OEM(good luck with that form Kenwood, Pioneer..)
The 250 dollars worth of connectors and maestro boxes to make "supported" units work with my factory amp was just released, the adapter for my android head unit was an addon when I ordered the unit and cost 40 dollars and was plug and play/
The wireless AA in my "unsupported" unit is 10x as reliable as in my "supported" unit and if it has issues I message the developer.
Needless to say I have a "supported" HU i'm looking to get rid of ;-)
For recommendations I'd say FInd one made for your car, with a look you think is good. Get Px6 or UIS7862, get one with coax or optical out unless you have factory amp you want to work, in which case make sure they have a CanBus for you. If you have Subaru think IDoing, if you have anything else I'd probably go with Joying.
gottahavit said:
I'll throw in my 2c here. I find "supported" an interesting statement. If you mean warranty(DOA, or breaks in 6 months) then i guess you can call Sony and the Likes "supported". If you however you mean gets updates, can talk(chat) with someone when things are not working right, or for that matter actually get's new features.... well as the not so proud owner of a mid ranged Android Auto Wireless "mainstream" head unit, you better like how it works when you plug it in because that's it! you're done, you won't get updates, you won't get fixes, you won't get new features.
As the proud owner of a new Android Head Unit, is the warranty worth the paper it's printed on? hopefully I never need to find out. Beyond that, I've been chatting with the manufacturer almost every day getting help resolving issues. My firmware is less than a month old, If I want something new I install it from the the Play store. The unit is custom fit to my car and looks more OEM than the OEM(good luck with that form Kenwood, Pioneer..)
The 250 dollars worth of connectors and maestro boxes to make "supported" units work with my factory amp was just released, the adapter for my android head unit was an addon when I ordered the unit and cost 40 dollars and was plug and play/
The wireless AA in my "unsupported" unit is 10x as reliable as in my "supported" unit and if it has issues I message the developer.
Needless to say I have a "supported" HU i'm looking to get rid of ;-)
For recommendations I'd say FInd one made for your car, with a look you think is good. Get Px6 or UIS7862, get one with coax or optical out unless you have factory amp you want to work, in which case make sure they have a CanBus for you. If you have Subaru think IDoing, if you have anything else I'd probably go with Joying.
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Thanks for your input.
Just to clarify a few points raised so new members arent mistaken.
You have an FYT unit with an idoing badge on it - and it's not Android Auto.
Android auto is effectively screen mirroring. Why would you want constant updates..... AA is screen mirroring. Comparing the two - are very different,
Android Head unit updates from these grey-box manufacturers usually introduce new bugs while fixing something else. Or regression bugs. Thirdparty ROMs exist on these forums for certain types, such as MTCD, which were largely born from fixing bugs and issues, such as OBD bluetooth connectivity.
You're chatting with the reseller, not manufacturer. When it comes time to resolve any real software bug, like all that own these grey-boxes, you'll probably look for info here and hope someone has a fix after the reseller stops communicating with you. Take a moment to read through the forums if not convinced.
You've had a bad experience with an aftermarket (AA?) unit, assume you installed that or possibly an inexperienced installer.
PX6, UIS are System On Chip types, not headunit models, for which there are a multitude of manufacturers based on reference designs. Saying buy a PX6 is therefore meaningless without specifying the type - you own an FYT. Teyes say their FYT is better than your Idoing FYT
Regarding the add-on boxes to make your aftermarket Sony work, perhaps you received bad advice.
Cheers.
marchnz said:
Thanks for your input.
Just to clarify a few points raised so new members arent mistaken.
You have an FYT unit with an idoing badge on it - and it's not Android Auto.
Android auto is effectively screen mirroring. Why would you want constant updates..... AA is screen mirroring. Comparing the two - are very different,
Android Head unit updates from these grey-box manufacturers usually introduce new bugs while fixing something else. Or regression bugs. Thirdparty ROMs exist on these forums for certain types, such as MTCD, which were largely born from fixing bugs and issues, such as OBD bluetooth connectivity.
You're chatting with the reseller, not manufacturer. When it comes time to resolve any real software bug, like all that own these grey-boxes, you'll probably look for info here and hope someone has a fix after the reseller stops communicating with you. Take a moment to read through the forums if not convinced.
You've had a bad experience with an aftermarket (AA?) unit, assume you installed that or possibly an inexperienced installer.
PX6, UIS are System On Chip types, not headunit models, for which there are a multitude of manufacturers based on reference designs. Saying buy a PX6 is therefore meaningless without specifying the type - you own an FYT. Teyes say their FYT is better than your Idoing FYT
Regarding the add-on boxes to make your aftermarket Sony work, perhaps you received bad advice.
Cheers.
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More clarification, not trying to start an argument,
Yes I know IDoing is the "Reseller"
Yes I use Android Auto(when I want to), these units have apps that emulate Android Auto, or you install Head Unit Reloaded, both of which work better than my experience with "Supported" AA head units.
I understand your point on the updates coming from FYT or whoever is making the boards, but my point is updates from Sony, Kenwood are practically non-existent and there is no where to get help or "hacks".
How does an Installer have anything to do with the fact that AA Wireless flips a coin as to when it will decide to kick in when my phone connects. It's software, not hardware. Search around this is a well documented common issue and with little chance of updates from the Manufacturer or interest in fixing it from Samsung or Google....
on your comment on making my unit work with my HK, I'm not even sure what your point is, if I want it to work I need a dash kit, new harness, and a top of the line Maestro box from Crutchfield or the like and after that it looks like and aftermarket 7" radio. The one I have now looks like it was intended to be there from the factory.
Again these things are far from perfect, you can find my Idoing review on the Head Unit Forum, but compare to the limitations of the big name aftermarket units not to mention the price difference.