FYI, I am a new Android user.
Two weeks ago I got the Nexus 6 from T-Mobile. When I first got the phone there were no updates available for the phone. And I know at that time only version 5.0.1 was out, and it won't update that. And since then I haven't received an update for the phone. When version 5.1 was release I was excited to update. The phone tells me that my phone is up to date every time I check it throughout the day. My phone is still running version 5.0.
I did see that the update(5.1) was available when I erased my phone. I had no accounts signed in to the phone and I prevented anything to update except 5.1, but it went away and never downloaded.
I have forced stopped "Google Services Framework" multiple times and deleted the information, restarted the phone, and still no update.
I have called T-Mobile tech support to get help from them and they sent me a new phone, and still no luck.
What can I do to get the update? Is it possible that the SIM card I am using is from my iPhone 6 is preventing this?
I see that everyone is downloading updates and side loading them, but all the guides are pretty vague. I am on a Macbook so I don't understand the commands, but I do know how to use the terminal. I would like to stay away from side loading because my lack of experience.
Just be patient
The update comes out in waves, some get it later then others. You'll get it eventually
First, look here:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/11/2...or-updates-on-nexus-devices-isnt-helping-you/
Also, try pulling out your Sim card and rebooting the phone. Let it sit without Sim and see if update returns.
I bought this phone over the Note 4 because of permanent root capability.
Now I'm finding that AT&T locked the bootloader and locked down rooting.
Is it even possible or do I now own a piece of junk?
I hate touchwiz, I wanna install a real rom...
changoland said:
I bought this phone over the Note 4 because of permanent root capability.
Now I'm finding that AT&T locked the bootloader and locked down rooting.
Is it even possible or do I now own a piece of junk?
I hate touchwiz, I wanna install a real rom...
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If it's already on stock 5.0, then yes. Currently no root methods avaliable.
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If it's already on stock 5.0, then yes. Currently no root methods avaliable.
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That sucks, I assumed at first that it came out of the box at 5.0, but it must have updated to 5.0 when it restored all my apps through Google during initial setup. Word to the wise: Don't sign into Google on your first boot if you ever want to root this phone! I never had the opportunity, now I've gotta sell a brand new phone, ugh
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That sucks, I assumed at first that it came out of the box at 5.0, but it must have updated to 5.0 when it restored all my apps through Google during initial setup. Word to the wise: Don't sign into Google on your first boot if you ever want to root this phone! I never had the opportunity, now I've gotta sell a brand new phone, ugh
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Not to rub it in, but since other people may read your advice: It is not google or restoring the application that upgraded the phone to 5.0. You most likely got an OTA (over the air update) notice from AT&T which prompted you to update, then you did it, and updated your phone to lollipop.
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Not to rub it in, but since other people may read your advice: It is not google or restoring the application that upgraded the phone to 5.0. You most likely got an OTA (over the air update) notice from AT&T which prompted you to update, then you did it, and updated your phone to lollipop.
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Not to contradict you and come off like an asshole, but that is exactly how I got the 5.0 update. It was fresh out of the box and asked me if I wanted to restore content from my previous phone. I was never prompted for an OTA update and I never in a million years would have ever accepted or agreed to that. I'm just trying to warn anybody else who might end up in the same position I ended up in.
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Not to contradict you and come off like an asshole, but that is exactly how I got the 5.0 update. It was fresh out of the box and asked me if I wanted to restore content from my previous phone. I was never prompted for an OTA update and I never in a million years would have ever accepted or agreed to that. I'm just trying to warn anybody else who might end up in the same position I ended up in.
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I'm sorry, I am not questioning your judgment about this and as always I would like to be wrong about this because then I can I learn something new. The way I understand update mechanisms is that there are three ways things get updated in one's phone: the first is by Google and traditionally Google has only updated parts of the operating system that have to do with Google such as the Play Store or the Google framework etc. and these are considered minor patches to the OS. I have never heard or seen that Google would modify the /system partition as that would defy the entire notion of factory reset. The second is through Samsung. unless you live in certain countries where Samsung sells you a phone unlocked and unattached to a mobile operator the update you get from Samsung is limited to Samsung applications and security patches. Finally, in the United States and countries where phones are sold by cell phone operators the OS update is delegated to the phone companies such as AT&T and t-mobile. that's how you get an update for example from kit Kat to lollipop in the us. there is no documented mechanism that shows how Google can update the OS on a phone sold to you by a phone company. but if you find non anecdotal evidence to the contrary, I would be glad to stand corrected.
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I'm sorry, I am not questioning your judgment about this and as always I would like to be wrong about this because then I can I learn something new. The way I understand update mechanisms is that there are three ways things get updated in one's phone: the first is by Google and traditionally Google has only updated parts of the operating system that have to do with Google such as the Play Store or the Google framework etc. and these are considered minor patches to the OS. I have never heard or seen that Google would modify the /system partition as that would defy the entire notion of factory reset. The second is through Samsung. unless you live in certain countries where Samsung sells you a phone unlocked and unattached to a mobile operator the update you get from Samsung is limited to Samsung applications and security patches. Finally, in the United States and countries where phones are sold by cell phone operators the OS update is delegated to the phone companies such as AT&T and t-mobile. that's how you get an update for example from kit Kat to lollipop in the us. there is no documented mechanism that shows how Google can update the OS on a phone sold to you by a phone company. but if you find non anecdotal evidence to the contrary, I would be glad to stand corrected.
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I mean, I'm not stating that it was Google who pushed this update, it is an AT&T ROM after all. The reality of my situation is that the phone was doing an initial startup and the very first thing that happened was it launched into the initial setup. Once it got to the screen that asked me for my Google login to re-install all the apps that were linked to my account, that was the last time I had any input over the matter. It had to be during this time that the 5.0 update was downloaded/installed as well because this process took about an hour while it downloaded everything. Unfortunately it gives no information about whats going on whatsoever except for showing a splash screen that you can't escape from as it continued to download everything. Once it finished, I was at 5.0. I never once saw the phone operating or a home screen on anything that wasn't 5.0. So it very well could have been that AT&T pushed the OTA update during this process. I just had zero control over what was happening and was never prompted for an OTA update. I just entered my Google credentials, it went to the splash screen, and when it finished it spit me out to the home screen at 5.0.
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I mean, I'm not stating that it was Google who pushed this update, it is an AT&T ROM after all. The reality of my situation is that the phone was doing an initial startup and the very first thing that happened was it launched into the initial setup. Once it got to the screen that asked me for my Google login to re-install all the apps that were linked to my account, that was the last time I had any input over the matter. It had to be during this time that the 5.0 update was downloaded/installed as well because this process took about an hour while it downloaded everything. Unfortunately it gives no information about whats going on whatsoever except for showing a splash screen that you can't escape from as it continued to download everything. Once it finished, I was at 5.0. I never once saw the phone operating or a home screen on anything that wasn't 5.0. So it very well could have been that AT&T pushed the OTA update during this process. I just had zero control over what was happening and was never prompted for an OTA update. I just entered my Google credentials, it went to the splash screen, and when it finished it spit me out to the home screen at 5.0.
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My S5 looks for system updates on the initial setup each time. It probably upgraded to the new OS as your were doing your initial setup of the device.
That's correct it does look for updates on initial setup. I have made it a good practice not to connect to Internet during the initial setup. This will keep it from looking or installing any updates. Updates will not push unless your connected to Internet ( unless it's been days and you keep denying them ).
This is the procedure I follow each time I buy a new phone:
1- Take the sim card out and turn the phone on. If the phone co-operates go to step 3.
2- Put the sim card back in and turn the phone on.
3- During the initial setup decline to connect to WiFi if the phone accepts that.
4- Immediately after the set up is complete, go to Settings -> Security -> security policy updates (or something like that) and turn automatic updates off AND set your preferred networks to WiFi only.
5- go to Settings -> about device -> software update, AND IF THERE IS AN OPTION PRESENT, disable automatic updates.
6- Root the phone if possible. If not move to step 8.
7- After obtaining root, disable the update related apks. They are typically called: LocalFota.apk, FotaClient.apk, SamsungApps.apk, SPDClient.apk, SyncmlD.apk, and wssyncmlnps.apk, or variations of these names. They are all under either /system/app or /system/priv-app.
8- It is now (relatively) safe to connect to the internet.
9- The first time you log in to playstore, quickly go to its settings and disable automatic update.
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This is the procedure I follow each time I buy a new phone:
1- Take the sim card out and turn the phone on. If the phone co-operates go to step 3.
2- Put the sim card back in and turn the phone on.
3- During the initial setup decline to connect to WiFi if the phone accepts that.
4- Immediately after the set up is complete, go to Settings -> Security -> security policy updates (or something like that) and turn automatic updates off AND set your preferred networks to WiFi only.
5- go to Settings -> about device -> software update, AND IF THERE IS AN OPTION PRESENT, disable automatic updates.
6- Root the phone if possible. If not move to step 8.
7- After obtaining root, disable the update related apks. They are typically called: LocalFota.apk, FotaClient.apk, SamsungApps.apk, SPDClient.apk, SyncmlD.apk, and wssyncmlnps.apk, or variations of these names. They are all under either /system/app or /system/priv-app.
8- It is now (relatively) safe to connect to the internet.
9- The first time you log in to playstore, quickly go to its settings and disable automatic update.
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Those are good steps, one side note that i do is i don't connect to Internet until after i sign into Google play and set the update to " do not update ". I also hardly ever connect to the Internet anyhow since my phones data is faster than my slow a$$ Internet. Ha
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Those are good steps, one side note that i do is i don't connect to Internet until after i sign into Google play and set the update to " do not update ". I also hardly ever connect to the Internet anyhow since my phones data is faster than my slow a$$ Internet. Ha
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Yeah, but somehow that never worked for me. Play store doesn't let me log in until I connect to the internet and before logging in I cannot change the settings.
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Yeah, but somehow that never worked for me. Play store doesn't let me log in until I connect to the internet and before logging in I cannot change the settings.
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If you open the play store and log in that way it normally won't, but if you go to settings, accounts, and add your Google account that way, let the phone set about 5 min while it sets up then you should be able to log in.
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That sucks, I assumed at first that it came out of the box at 5.0, but it must have updated to 5.0 when it restored all my apps through Google during initial setup...
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What makes you think it didn't come from at&t with 5.0 already installed? I had to have my phone replaced recently and the new one definitely had 5.0 pre-installed.
I just received one, 5.0 out of the box also.
Ok, so I'm not the only one who received a 5.0 out of the box. too bad AT&T are such pieces of s***
Yeah, I entered this thread with the intention of posting that it was to my understanding that unless you find some old stock somewhere, all new AT&T Galaxy S5s are coming with 5.0 pre-installed.
If the OP had taken an OTA while setting up his phone I'm sure he would have noticed the reboot to recovery and the little Android dude with the blue progress bar under him as his phone updated. OTA updates don't silently install.
The days of walking out of the store with a brand new S5 and rooting it right away have gone away until someone finds a new exploit that will work on the stock 5.0.
I'm looking for a used S5 to use on Straight Talk. I want to root it and use the mobile hotspot feature. Is their a particular build number or kernel I should be looking for? I want to have 5.0 also. Maybe a ROM like Sixperience
THANKS
Downgrade and root?
I had the same issue, replaced my broken S5 and the new one came with 5.0 stock.
Would it possible to downgrade, to 4.4.2 KitKat, root via Towelroot, and then upgrade again? Would be tedious, but I am sick of AT&T's bull****. It's a moral victory as much as just looking for more ease-of-use.
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I had the same issue, replaced my broken S5 and the new one came with 5.0 stock.
Would it possible to downgrade, to 4.4.2 KitKat, root via Towelroot, and then upgrade again? Would be tedious, but I am sick of AT&T's bull****. It's a moral victory as much as just looking for more ease-of-use.
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Not possible as of now
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Ok so I just acquired an S6 (AT&T, OEM/not rooted) and I know that 7.0 is rolling out for it and after some investigating it seems that the only way I'll be able to update it to 7.0 from 6.0.1 is if my baseband is at a certain version, which it is not. There are 3 listed updates for this phone on the At&T site that I don't seem to have (SPL Nov 1, SPL Dec 1 & SPL Jan 1) and I'm wondering how I can apply these updates and at least have my phone up to date. I've tried checking OTA updates and also installing SmartSwitch and it says that my phone is currently updated and doesn't offer any patches. Any help is appreciated!
Here's a screenshot of where I'm at now-
http://imgur.com/a/PcnFQ
No OTA updates if it's not on the AT&T network, sadly. I have an AT&T S6 on Cricket and I get my updates by going to a Best Buy with a Samsung Experience Center inside. They can update it for you. If that's an option based on where you live you can wait a couple weeks, they didn't have the Nougat update yet when I checked yesterday. Otherwise, since it's a new phone and presumably you don't have any data on it to lose, you can update manually. See this thread to start:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/general/att-galaxy-s6-firmware-thread-t3525469
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No OTA updates if it's not on the AT&T network, sadly. I have an AT&T S6 on Cricket and I get my updates by going to a Best Buy with a Samsung Experience Center inside. They can update it for you. If that's an option based on where you live you can wait a couple weeks, they didn't have the Nougat update yet when I checked yesterday. Otherwise, since it's a new phone and presumably you don't have any data on it to lose, you can update manually. See this thread to start:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/general/att-galaxy-s6-firmware-thread-t3525469
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Thanks for the tips. I'm on cricket actually so going into a Best buy might be the best option when they get it. Do you have to pay them to do it? Will i get my phone back right away or do I need to leave it with them for a while ? Side question for you - do you use the hotspot on the s6? That's something else I'm trying to get working/enabled.
It's free. I've done it three times and it's been a breeze. You don't leave your phone, you just wait around for the updates to install. Depending on how many updates you are behind it can take a while, but there are plenty of ways to kill time at Best Buy. You can check online which ones have the Samsung Experience Center inside.
As for hotspot, I never use it.
OK so I have a dual sim version purchased on contract with 3 in the UK.
I keep getting a software update notification saying an update is available however all it consists of is custom apps and a splash screen on start up. I refuse to install this as I was advised that once custom firmware was installed it would delay any further updates as apparently in the UK all the carriers have to approve the update before it gets released.
I'm living in hope that by holding out in this way I might be offered the 146 update sooner.
Now here is the issue....
With my sim card inserted the phone constantly downloads the update and then shows it as waiting to install. I have been able to delete it by going into apps and the software updater however shortly later it downloads again. I have switched off the 'download on WiFi option' however for some reason this keeps switching itself back on again.
Any ideas why it's doing this and how I get around the problem?
Same problem as me however I downloaded mine without realising what it was,looks like I'm stuck on waiting for three to release now,sigh I live chatted with three today and they don't seem to have a clue on the release date.
Hey, the problem is when you are clearing the data from the updater you are also clearing your preferences for auto download over WIFI.
Simple solution is remove your SIM tray, clear the app data, and then disable auto download over WIFI before you put the sim tray back in. In future when you want to check for firmware updates simply remove the sim tray and run the updater again. Running the updater with the SIM tray in will result in you having to start all over again.
Just download it, I have it downloaded and still got the latest 145 update at the same time other networks like EE did.
I.e not installing doesn't mean you get updates sooner.
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Just download it, I have it downloaded and still got the latest 145 update at the same time other networks like EE did.
I.e not installing doesn't mean you get updates sooner.
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Appreciate what your saying however I also don't want to install all three's crap on my phone so thats why I don't install it
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Appreciate what your saying however I also don't want to install all three's crap on my phone so thats why I don't install it
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i get it, however the only thing i have noticed is the 3 splash screen which doesnt bother me as i hardly ever reboot.
Not sure if you can do wifi calling with it installed?
Phil750123 said:
i get it, however the only thing i have noticed is the 3 splash screen which doesnt bother me as i hardly ever reboot.
Not sure if you can do wifi calling with it installed?
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As luck would have it I took the 3 SIM out and checked for update with my bt SIM and low and behold it was there.
Just installed and have now switched off auto download on WiFi so hopefully the 3 update won't come through again.
I'm getting nagged to update my software even though I've disabled updates for the Motorola updates service, and disabled automatic updates in developer options. I'm currently running stock Oreo, and have been getting these every 24 hours or so, sometimes more.
I'm fine with taking the security updates, but I really don't want to upgrade to Pie. So much so that I exchanged the first X4 I had just so I could stay on the older update with a locked bootloader. My main concern is that I accidentally updated already, because they eventually take away the option to be reminded later instead. At this point I think I know how to avoid consenting to the update, but it would be nice if this annoyance was gone for good.
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I'm getting nagged to update my software even though I've disabled updates for the Motorola updates service, and disabled automatic updates in developer options. I'm currently running stock Oreo, and have been getting these every 24 hours or so, sometimes more.
I'm fine with taking the security updates, but I really don't want to upgrade to Pie. So much so that I exchanged the first X4 I had just so I could stay on the older update with a locked bootloader. My main concern is that I accidentally updated already, because they eventually take away the option to be reminded later instead. At this point I think I know how to avoid consenting to the update, but it would be nice if this annoyance was gone for good.
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I had the exact same problem with the three moto x4 Amazon Prime versions. I contacted Amazon and Motorola - both told me there was no way to stop the update notices. I even explored app lockers hoping to find one that would let me lock the update notice app - no luck.
I finally gave up, purchased three moto x4 Android one versions (they are rootable) on sale at Best Buy, rooted them, then disabled the Motorola update service. No more update notices.
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I had the exact same problem with the three moto x4 Amazon Prime versions. I contacted Amazon and Motorola - both told me there was no way to stop the update notices. I even explored app lockers hoping to find one that would let me lock the update notice app - no luck.
I finally gave up, purchased three moto x4 Android one versions (they are rootable) on sale at Best Buy, rooted them, then disabled the Motorola update service. No more update notices.
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I see, I was afraid of that. I should have mentioned that I have the Android one version, but I was hoping not to have to root it. I play Pokemon GO sometimes, and it doesn't like it when your device is rooted, even using the method that's supposed to hide it.
Has anyone had any luck breaking OTA updates, possibly by flashing a slightly modified version of stock software? I was hoping to stay stock because that's usually best for the camera, but Gcam should get around that, right?
nguinn, just use magisk. i play PoGo also. use the X4 to GPS spoof for regional exclusives. works great. reddit.com/r/pokemongospoofing has a great tutorial on how to root your phone to make pokemon go not be able to see it.