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[Q] CyanogenMod on the z?

I want this hardware with cm or pure aosp software, and I'd love it if you all could share some of your knowledge:
What are the challenges, obstacles, and chances of cm on this device happening?
I don't know much about Sony and their way of locking or unlocking the bootloader, so what can we expect here?
Codeworkx praise Sony for their recent contribution to the community, can we expect this to continue?
Are there any new proprietary additions to this phone compared to the other xperia line, something new that will prevent cm running smoothly?
How are the free xperia team going with their work?
Please share and enlighten me.

Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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Also
http://freexperiaproject.com/

dioggo92 said:
Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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http://freexperiaproject.com/
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Cool, but have they succeed with proper ports of cm to xperia, no battery issues, no camera issues, all hardware working properly?
The z has the new "dual camera thingy" (i can't remember what the press release called it) for proper hdr, and considering this is a somewhat new invention, will Sony give out proprietary sources/drivers to create open source versions?

CyanogenMod went well for my arc S, and is coming alon great for my Xperia T.
I can't imagine why the XZ will be any worse.
I think it will actually be better as the XZ will be released on 4.1, with the promise of 4.2 coming soon after.
I can't see poor development being an issue with this device.

You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.

Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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So exciting! really looking forward!

cant wait to see this phone..also cant wait to see stock Android on this.

Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx

-A-P-M- said:
Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list

Eddiemc said:
Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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mzr7 said:
Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
Sent from my Xperia S running 4.2.1 using xda premium
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How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.

mzr7 said:
Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
Sent from my Xperia S running 4.2.1 using xda premium
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Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx

-A-P-M- said:
Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx
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Codeworkx is different from Fxp. Anywho Fxp has listed z in its supported devices now on its website so yeah i think you can count them in.
It'll depend on codeworkx if he wants to join Fxp or not. I don't have the Xperia t so can't be sure about what you asked. I'll check the thread out and let you know.
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Eddiemc said:
How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.
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Oh my version! Well this new group popped up they made cm10.1 for Xperia S can't be used as a daily driver as of now was just testing it they launched it about a week ago still fixing it up . Other than that i am running cm10.
As far as your questions go Sony supports developers! If you want to get cm on your device don't get it from a carrier! Get it unlocked like me unlock the bootloader and start flashing!
Xperia z shares many similarities in hardware with the nexus 4 so I'm guessing that would mean faster development. The only issue I can think of is camera since its a Sony proprietary! Like with the Xperia S. Had to wait till Fxp got a hold of a leaked beta jb driver. Still doesn't support 1080p video. But it works! On the other hand xperia T has full camera I think and cm10.1 is being worked on.
Bottom line you won't get it asap but you'll get it! Cause here is the thing Sony supports developers and stuff but mostly people go out get a Samsung or htc. Maybe that's why development is a bit slow paced.
If I were you I'd wait a month maybe? Just to see how things go over here in the development forum.
Keep visiting xperiablog.com (everything related to xperias)
And also http://freexperiaproject.com
You'll get an idea of how it's going.
Or you could get it play with the stock Sony rom! Till development kicks in Ps you'll fall in love with the media apps I'm telling you!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099499 (here's the rom I'm running right now)
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AW: [Q] CyanogenMod on the z?
For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards

Bin4ry said:
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Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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Bin4ry, perhaps you can share some thoughts on cm on this device: Proprietary camera sensor.., battery workings, bootloader and customization, what to expect..?
Support is one thing, working rom is another. Are there any major issues to be expected, or do you reckon this will be smooth sailing? Also, how are the other sony/xperia devices running with cm now? Any big issues?
Thanks mate

I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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-A-P-M- said:
Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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I covered this a few weeks ago on Google+, but mainly:
A decision was made to "pull an aries" with CM10.1. That means rebasing as much as possible onto the Mako kernel base, just like the Galaxy S (aries) family device maintainers rebased onto the Nexus S kernel base.
The bad: In the short run, when the effort is underway, the device will appear to be behind others.
The good: Once the effort is complete, it should be MUCH easier to keep the device up to date. See the original Galaxy S (aries) family of devices. You know, "the device that just won't die".
There was a pretty big influx of new developers to the platform a month ago, and some of us are still getting up to speed and learning things. For example, I've been focusing on what could best be described as "polishing" on CM10... Taking those little minor annoyances and squashing them. I'll transition over to 10.1 when I'm done. It's kind of nice that I can actually do something like this... Instead of fighting generic platform brokenness all over, I'm working on polishing up a few very minor annoyances. Seriously, my list of things to work on is "broken scaling of anamorphic videos over HDMI"... That's a lot better than "HDMI no worky" on Samsung Exynos devices.
Bin4ry said:
For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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As I understand it, the FXP builds will sometimes contain things that have yet to be merged into the main CM baseline via Gerrit.
For those coming from Samsung devices that codeworkx or I or any of the other CM people have worked on - Think of it as the difference between nightlies and the occasional experimental "test build" from maintainers. With the main difference being that FXP builds are always built each week whether or not there might actually be a difference.
(Correct me if I'm wrong here please.)

Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Exactly, with key lime pie coming up, all we can do is wait

beeboss said:
I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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I'm also absolutely sure it will be smooth as nexus 4

after 3 weeks
We have everything working,... according to changelog...backlight is ok now, even the FMRadio is working now...
So Can we expect made working the last thing - CAMERA ?:victory::good:
PS: i know this is "headshot" question...but i would like to know whether there is some problem and there will be NO camera...or if i just should wait for some weeks ?

[Q] What is the situation of CyanogenMod?

CyanogenMod recently pushed out stables for CM10.2 on a select range of devices announcing that, with this, their efforts would be solely focused towards the CM11 code branches. However, they also announced that any devices which received that RC1 of CM10.2 would too continue into CM11.
My question, considering we are still unfortunate enough to be on somewhat unstable nightlies (the notification sound delay, UI issues, application crashes) is, what will be the future of CyanogenMod on the O4x? Will we even make it to stable CM10.2?
Hopefully we can! This is such a brilliant device as you all know well, and the hardware restrictions of KitKat are supposed to be lowered anyway
For clarification, this is not a complaint, the work of the CyanogenMod Team is always much appreciated. I, and so many of you, have donated and thanked them and tested their software for them. This is merely to gain an understanding of where our device is headed so as to aid everybody here in the decision of whether to stick with the device or, should worse come to worse.... look for another :-/

csfrank271 said:
CyanogenMod recently pushed out stables for CM10.2 on a select range of devices announcing that, with this, their efforts would be solely focused towards the CM11 code branches. However, they also announced that any devices which received that RC1 of CM10.2 would too continue into CM11.
My question, considering we are still unfortunate enough to be on somewhat unstable nightlies (the notification sound delay, UI issues, application crashes) is, what will be the future of CyanogenMod on the O4x? Will we even make it to stable CM10.2?
Hopefully we can! This is such a brilliant device as you all know well, and the hardware restrictions of KitKat are supposed to be lowered anyway
For clarification, this is not a complaint, the work of the CyanogenMod Team is always much appreciated. I, and so many of you, have donated and thanked them and tested their software for them. This is merely to gain an understanding of where our device is headed so as to aid everybody here in the decision of whether to stick with the device or, should worse come to worse.... look for another :-/
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probably no official CM11 for us, or 10.2 stable/rc, atleast in forseeable future. thankfully, we have some very skilled devs working on unofficial version of CM, & Vanir&Omni.

Flying_Bear said:
probably no official CM11 for us, or 10.2 stable/rc, atleast in forseeable future. thankfully, we have some very skilled devs working on unofficial version of CM, & Vanir&Omni.
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Thank you, I was just wondering about the state of the official ROMs, it seems like the P880 has been forgotten about by CM
But, as you say, we are very lucky to have these fantastic devs building even better custom ROMs

Flying_Bear said:
probably no official CM11 for us, or 10.2 stable/rc, atleast in forseeable future. thankfully, we have some very skilled devs working on unofficial version of CM, & Vanir&Omni.
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If everything is working right we should be able to submit it to cyanogenmod to get our nightlies back, but im not 100% sure

JoinTheRealms said:
If everything is working right we should be able to submit it to cyanogenmod to get our nightlies back, but im not 100% sure
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Hopefully we can have the issues fixed
Can't wait to see the community development though, the new Android RunTime looks very fascinating :3

why dont u enter cyanogenmod and see with your eyes ? anyway. of course we dont see any support. its a miracle that we had that much support too. who will support a phone which doesnt even has the support of the official company ? LG only had 4.0.3 and 4.1.2 and thats all. isnt it already a miracle that we have 4.3.1 ? and we have also so many good developers that work for 4.4 ?

I don't understand why people want 4.4 so bad when it's one of the worst upgrades from Google i have ever seen. They had to launch 4.4.1 updates right away. You want a better software I agree thats needed but 4.4 isn't a solution.
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Zhus06 said:
I don't understand why people want 4.4 so bad when it's one of the worst upgrades from Google i have ever seen. They had to launch 4.4.1 updates right away. You want a better software I agree thats needed but 4.4 isn't a solution.
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Everyone wants KitKat because... Well, because it's new! Why not? I believe that pushing one's expectations beyond what is already achieved represents a strong impulse to improvement. Experimenting, trying new solutions, feeling the awesomeness of something that did not exist before is a powerful spring to the change, the change in itself is something that animates the developers and makes them work with no reward as if this was their job.
It has happened with all Android versions, and always there had been someone who felt amazed and wondered why should we need a new version.
kK can be (and probably is, but who am I to judge) one of the worst Android versions, but I am happy to see people trying to overcome all the problems related with making it work on a relatively old device, and I am happy if by testing what is being developed, and by giving my opinion I can be of some help to somebody.
Want to call it a game? Why not! Want to consider people like me as grown up kids that need something to play with? Well, yes, I am, and will always cheer a new Android version working on one of my devices with grateful heart.

Ricardo Cerqueira is no longer the maintainer of our device?
there is no one who will replace him?

It should be possible to join the CM team, if the 4.4 is running.
The tegra3 problems will hopefully not be a trap for it.
If there is a maintainer who can update CM once, there will be no real reason not to get official support.

Good news everybody!
On the CyanogenMod website, the P880 has been listed officially as one the devices to receive support further than the CM10.2 nightlies, which will be a win-win for everyone

Bye Bye CM !

DarkFantasy6 said:
Bye Bye CM !
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Why do you say that? :-/

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On the CyanogenMod website, the P880 has been listed officially as one the devices to receive support further than the CM10.2 nightlies, which will be a win-win for everyone
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I saw the latest list the have revealed now, this is great!!
Noticed though that they said MOST of the devices that have CM10.2 builds will move into CM11 nightly during the next weeks.. "Most" hopefully means the P880 as well!

faabak said:
I saw the latest list the have revealed now, this is great!!
Noticed though that they said MOST of the devices that have CM10.2 builds will move into CM11 nightly during the next weeks.. "Most" hopefully means the P880 as well!
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Yes, hopefully!
But hey, a stable CM10.2 would even be fantastic, the community devs would appreciate it surely

We never got the m1 and stable so i hardly belive it that we get cm11. And without a good 3.4 kernel source from lg we wont feeo many adventafes of 4.4. but the awesome awesome optic would be nice Maybe im going to buy a Nexus 5. Im so frustrated of my lg optimus 2x and 4x. ONE update -.-

Where are the ASOP or custom roms?

Is there any developers out there than can build asop or custom? phone feels dead on this and at Sony.
another note what apps have people disabled safely?

LMcR92 said:
Is there any developers out there than can build asop or custom? phone feels dead on this and at Sony.
another note what apps have people disabled safely?
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I used this to debloat with no issues http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/wip-debloat-lp-690-correct-functioning-t3076161. And there is only one rom as you see in the development section. And I don't believe he has been on in a while

This is a problem. I like the look of the z3+ but without dev support I cannot bring myself to buy one.
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To be honest im happy enough with working recovery and having xposed. But development support would be great.

I've just seen that all the sources are there, including Marshmallow:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...a-devices-added-to-sonys-open-device-project/
I'm almost tempted to get the device to see if I can do it myself.

chronicfathead said:
I've just seen that all the sources are there, including Marshmallow:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...a-devices-added-to-sonys-open-device-project/
I'm almost tempted to get the device to see if I can do it myself.
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Please, do....
You have my support!

What is stopping it working? Lack of Sony giving people the tools for daily driver. Or this phone is slowly dying, in which means why not just let devs go.

Is it worth it?

So I'm about to change my OPO and I have 2 candidates: OP3 or Z2 Pro.
I'm wondering if the Z2 Pro, in your opinion, will have the same development in the future.
My biggest concern is having a choice if I don't like the stock one.
Do you think CM or other ROMS (Slim, PA, etc) will come for Z2? Or should I just go for the OP3 (which i didn't yet because of high demand 5 weeks shiptime and the camera which seems better on Z2 despite having less MP)?

We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?

matrixino said:
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
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Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)

alvintan38 said:
Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
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Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?

The phone is awesome,
I am using stock rom with Nova launcher.
Nameless rom is now being developed if that is your kind of thing, I and others have donated to get support for this so I think it should be good, just need to wait for the launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/poll-whos-willing-to-donate-nameless-rom-t3456761
I suggest you also join Zukfans.eu forums for lots of info on CM / Mokee and roms and updates.
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2-pro.4/

matrixino said:
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
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It's a really good phone, and i'm pretty sure it has a better display over the OP3's pentile optic amoled display, +the 128gb

Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow

ermacwins said:
Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
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As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"

matrixino said:
As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...

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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
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The nonplus version has only 64gb rom, dunno about ram (will see tomorrow). Also xiaomi phones don't have the lte band 20 support (800mhz) used in europe (this is a must for me). Add to this the fact that you are pretty much left with MIUI (xiaomi phones don't have much developing). A xiaomi phone isn't more worth than an op3 or z2 in the end. The only thing I like is the double camera, but we have to see how it performs yet.
Also I already own 2 xiaomis and they have some annoying bugs, so I'm more inclined toward something else.
But we will see once they are announced tomorrow.

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really bad comparing to other devices

I don't agree. We got official Paranoid omni and lineageOs, some stock custom rom with mods and some very talented dev into open Xperia device community. This phone has the lastest OS given by Google and enhanced by Sony (aosp source availaable even for 7.1.1).
We will have Android 8 and, with it the new update system... That means more custom rom possibility.

Gazatus said:
I don't agree. We got official Paranoid omni and lineageOs, some stock custom rom with mods and some very talented dev into open Xperia device community. This phone has the lastest OS given by Google and enhanced by Sony (aosp source availaable even for 7.1.1).
We will have Android 8 and, with it the new update system... That means more custom rom possibility.
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lineageos? is there any?

coconutxyz said:
lineageos? is there any?
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LINEAGE ?????
Where is?

No official Lineage. I hope, the official SailfishOS port will arrive soon.
And when this happens, the X will rise.

Dev community pretty bad as of right now... There's a lot of hope but still years behind dev community behind motorola/oneplus/etc

mase76 said:
No official Lineage. I hope, the official SailfishOS port will arrive soon.
And when this happens, the X will rise.
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SailfishOS is an absolute deal breaker for me, as you will have to pay for SailfishOS for the Xperia X.
I don't see a reason why I should pay for a OS, which still lacks of features and probably will be released anyway when the xperia x is completly death.

Did you ever try SFOS? The usage is much cooler than
Android. And there will be an runtime env for Android apps.
I don't have a problem to pay for good things. But nobody
forces you to buy an Xperia X or pay for an alternative OS.
And you know, that an Android with Google services isn't
as free as you think?
Ok, it is getting offtopic.

If we'll could talk with Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 dev community, maybe we have other expectations with the development for this and Xperia X Compact device(s).
BTW, I been wanted show you that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/development/rom-aosp-oreo-t3664605
Regards.

Very bad compared to my 3 years old Asus Zenfone
This even getting Oreo
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-5/development/rom-aosp-oreo-tank0412-t3663733

Their Snapdragon 650 is a good SoC for Development, more, searching fix some errors that Sony let...
The problem is our own Dev here, is very low...
IDK why.
We'll should to port some things from Xiaomi's Phones (Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon and Xiaomi Mi Max), or, fuse our Dev with them Dev for making "bigger" to Snapdragon 650 SoC, at least.

SahilCrazy said:
SailfishOS is an absolute deal breaker for me, as you will have to pay for SailfishOS for the Xperia X.
I don't see a reason why I should pay for a OS, which still lacks of features and probably will be released anyway when the xperia x is completly death.
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u know that jolla give you the option to compile sailfish x for yourself right? And you know that they need to make money because they paid sony for licenses etc. and have taxes and coworker etc.? It's not like that jolla is a one-man show in a cellar like some others here like to think or are by themself

Guys please don't say our dev community strength sucks that's just unfair and of poor taste. WHY? Because.
Sony Xperia X wasn't much of a hit phone anyway it was expensive and was reviewed as a poor excuse for a flagship phone when it was released so nobody even bothered buy one there were better options back then and this phone did not deserve any attention in fact I only bought this phone because it was so damn cheap when I bought it last year. (from a 2nd hand seller for 150$)
I won't expect lots of devs and variety on custom ROMs for this phone, but I'm happy and grateful that we still got great devs here even if there's only a few.

cyanides13 said:
Guys please don't say our dev community strength sucks that's just unfair and of poor taste. WHY? Because.
Sony Xperia X wasn't much of a hit phone anyway it was expensive and was reviewed as a poor excuse for a flagship phone when it was released so nobody even bothered buy one there were better options back then and this phone did not deserve any attention in fact I only bought this phone because it was so damn cheap when I bought it last year. (from a 2nd hand seller for 150$)
I won't expect lots of devs and variety on custom ROMs for this phone, but I'm happy and grateful that we still got great devs here even if there's only a few.
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Now, is the "most seller" together to the Xiaomi A1.
With this, maybe we could see something for make to develop even more for this SoC.

Community development is bad, but not the worst. Unfortunately, "Bootloader unlock allowed" is "No" on my phone so I can't use anything community developed/maintained regardless.

IMO it's alright. We're still under cover of Sony's AOSP and various official projects (Omni and PA), and outside of that there are Unofficial LOS and Treble by Chippa_ahttps://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6994234 and Sjll respectively. Some of those ROMs are usable as daily driver.
Props to any and all developers who have been keeping this phone alive.