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Is there ever going to be an official Cyanogen ROM?

Just saying, the Z1 did have one, what's the delay on the Z2 and Z2pro?

I think is not get official support. I don't know why, because this phone have awesome good spec.

Yeah I honestly expected this phone to become a scene favorite and instead it barely gets any support

That's my only criticism about this phone, that it has no official CyanogenMod support. All my previous phones (Moto G, OnePlus One and LG G4) came with official CM support, but the ZUK Z2 doesn't not. I thought it would be okay by relying on community builds instead, but updates are few and far between with these builds. There seems to be some development for the Z2 ongoing over at the Lenovo Mobile forums, but it is all in Chinese and Google Translate does not do much to make it more legible.

P650SE said:
That's my only criticism about this phone, that it has no official CyanogenMod support. All my previous phones (Moto G, OnePlus One and LG G4) came with official CM support, but the ZUK Z2 doesn't not. I thought it would be okay by relying on community builds instead, but updates are few and far between with these builds. There seems to be some development for the Z2 ongoing over at the Lenovo Mobile forums, but it is all in Chinese and Google Translate does not do much to make it more legible.
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I will start working on CM14 next week when my phone arrives, but pls don't except to much.

NeoChontrix said:
I will start working on CM14 next week when my phone arrives, but pls don't except to much.
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Yeah, but this is unofficial??

Araa01 said:
Yeah, but this is unofficial??
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I should be able to get it official when it is running without bugs.

Nice... I fingers crossed. Add on Xda when you compile.

Araa01 said:
Nice... I fingers crossed. Add on Xda when you compile.
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Looks like someone at zukfans compiled cm14.1, idk if everything is working there but it may be worth a look.
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/cm-14-1-android-7-1-1.1976/

NeoChontrix said:
Looks like someone at zukfans compiled cm14.1, idk if everything is working there but it may be worth a look.
http://zukfans.eu/community/threads/cm-14-1-android-7-1-1.1976/
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No look on others developers. Your system work's better! I trust that. ?

P650SE said:
That's my only criticism about this phone, that it has no official CyanogenMod support. All my previous phones (Moto G, OnePlus One and LG G4) came with official CM support, but the ZUK Z2 doesn't not. I thought it would be okay by relying on community builds instead, but updates are few and far between with these builds. There seems to be some development for the Z2 ongoing over at the Lenovo Mobile forums, but it is all in Chinese and Google Translate does not do much to make it more legible.
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Not just CM but I don't see it gets any official support from any other ROMs
Its really weird, it has a 820 and pretty good specs, I don't get why its so difficult to get a good reliable aosp ROM for it

First to answer your original question. Because zuk had a contract with CM so z1 had Cyanogen OS and thus the open source CyanogenMod was a bonus so to say. Also we do have official CM in the face of MoKee. With some neat added features aswell. Just hoping they continue supporting the device with Nougat aswell
P.S. I have read in some post that MoKee has lots of chinese bloatware which aside from the Pinyin input seems to be incorrect.

baluuu said:
First to answer your original question. Because zuk had a contract with CM so z1 had Cyanogen OS and thus the open source CyanogenMod was a bonus so to say. Also we do have official CM in the face of MoKee. With some neat added features aswell. Just hoping they continue supporting the device with Nougat aswell
P.S. I have read in some post that MoKee has lots of chinese bloatware which aside from the Pinyin input seems to be incorrect.
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Zui.is also based at least to some. degree on Cyanogen mod. E.g. they are using the cm theme engine, they have only hidden the launch icon. Idk what else is from cm since I removed Zui after one hour.

The incredible lack of support in the form of Roms and accessories are stopping me from buy this phone. The specs and 4G band support are perfect for me, but i dont what to stuck with a phone who even Zuk does not care..

Still worthing buy the MI 5 in 2017?

Hello everyone!
So MI 6 is about to come in march 2017. I'm currently user of Nexus 5x and looking for a upgrade since the budget is limited, so I'm looking for a economic option.
I found an exchange with unboxed MI 5 with my nexus 5x. Should i buy MI 5 in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!

never had a phone with such excellent hardware and such poor software.
Every rom i tested had bugs bugs bugs. My cheapest android phone had better and mor stable software than all of the roms for MI5
Next phone will be definetly a hono 8 or somesthing like this

I have the model with 64gb and 3gb of ram, best phone for now. Personally I tell you to buy it, it's a good phone

I have 3gb 64gb version and I love it. I would say go for it:good:

Poor software? How? I didn't like MIUI but there are plenty of custom roms that work very well. For example LineageOS has very few bugs nowadays
If I compare this to my wife's Huawei... I would never change.
So, yes. The phone is still worth buying and custom Roms are developing all the time.
I have suggested this phone to my friends and they are also happy with it.

I bought the 64GB version about a month ago, coming from an Oppo Find 7 and I don't regret it. The hardware and the look and feel are excellent, the software is indeed not perfect, but the bugs are not that bad if you ask me.
I've only used MIUI since I got it, never had a Xiaomi phone before but I tried it on other phones and always kinda liked it. Currently I am on xiaomi.eu 8.1.6.0 and the only bugs worth mentioning that I found are:
- a touch problem, horizontal swipes are often detected as vertical, you have to be very accurate in your gestures, particularly when trying to remove notifications by swiping them.
- the microphone on wired headsets gets muted if you are on a call and you let the screen go to sleep while you talk . The issue doesn't happen when you lock the screen by pressing the button during the call.
Both issues are software-related because they do not occur on custom roms from what I've read.
One more thing is that it feels like the camera is let down by the software a bit. I isn't bad or anything like that, but it could've been better.

Echaeos said:
I have the model with 64gb and 3gb of ram, best phone for now. Personally I tell you to buy it, it's a good phone
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sure why not?

Price performance ratio simply excellent phone
MIUI Global stable ROM is very stable (never had a problem with global ROM)
Best phone I ever owned
Custom Roms lots of them
U can't go wrong with mi5

notoriouspk said:
Price performance ratio simply excellent phone
MIUI Global stable ROM is very stable (never had a problem with global ROM)
Best phone I ever owned
Custom Roms lots of them
U can't go wrong with mi5
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Custom Roms lots of them ??
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
as far as i can see, there are only 3 Roms: native chinese, eu version, CM14, All other Roms are based on CM14. And as far as CM14 has no dual Ringtones, and even Notification Light on missed calls is not working there is no alternative to Miui

Is notification light for missed calls a deal breaker? Oh my... You have big problems.
And there is AOSP?

Of course i'll choose LOS rather than miui. Quickreply is important. Btw imo this phone is still worth to buy in 2017. There maybe still some bugs in current custom roms. But, it's improving for sure from time to time

Why isn't this phone more popular?

It has OLED, popup camera, underscreen FP, and the price is amazing
So why is the scene so small? so little ROM support?
Just asking

MGREX said:
It has OLED, popup camera, underscreen FP, and the price is amazing
So why is the scene so small? so little ROM support?
Just asking
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I'm asking the same questions. I mean, not even the newer XT has it all.
But perhaps because of it got squished by tons of new devices this year, devices that is given more promotion funds thus more the hype.
I just bought this device few days ago. I waited a couple of months so that the price dropped. Got this for basically USD$200

Weird because the XT and X2 are everywhere on youtube, maybe realme stopped production because of costs? that popup camera cant be cheap to make
I was about to buy it but I heard the stock ROM is reaaaaally bad, did realme say if its going to get official android 10?
And again if there was better custom ROM support I would buy this in a second

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Weird because the XT and X2 are everywhere on youtube, maybe realme stopped production because of costs? that popup camera cant be cheap to make
I was about to buy it but I heard the stock ROM is reaaaaally bad, did realme say if its going to get official android 10?
And again if there was better custom ROM support I would buy this in a second
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I hear ya. I'm currently on candyrom and it's very stable, currently my daily driver without any problems, and excellent battery life .. It's just on the first build so there are few wrinkles to be ironed out, realme has handed out devices to developers so expecting a stable solid build soon ?

MGREX said:
Weird because the XT and X2 are everywhere on youtube, maybe realme stopped production because of costs? that popup camera cant be cheap to make
I was about to buy it but I heard the stock ROM is reaaaaally bad, did realme say if its going to get official android 10?
And again if there was better custom ROM support I would buy this in a second
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Make sense. They must be loosing money on this device, thus they ditched the pop up cam and return to the drop.
But for me the stock ROM is rock solid. For the first time, I kept coming back to the stock ROM rather than all of the custom ROMs I've tried. Not that the custom ROMs are bad, it is just I keep on missing features of the stock ROM.
That said, I do wish that more dev would come in and create more and better custom ROMs for this great device.

???
It's been months since device has been handed to developers but still I can't see any great support except lineage os by @SagarMakhar

minahasa said:
Make sense. They must be loosing money on this device, thus they ditched the pop up cam and return to the drop.
But for me the stock ROM is rock solid. For the first time, I kept coming back to the stock ROM rather than all of the custom ROMs I've tried. Not that the custom ROMs are bad, it is just I keep on missing features of the stock ROM.
That said, I do wish that more dev would come in and create more and better custom ROMs for this great device.
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Which features are on the stock ROM that AOSP lacks?
mitzl02 said:
It's been months since device has been handed to developers but still I can't see any great support except lineage os by @SagarMakhar
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Theres official lineage now? thats actually good news

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Which features are on the stock ROM that AOSP lacks?
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Mainly, the full-functionality of the stock camera app.
EDIT: Now I'm rocking AospExtended plus the latest GCam mods, so good by ColorOS!

realme 3 pro user hereee

minahasa said:
Mainly, the full-functionality of the stock camera app.
EDIT: Now I'm rocking AospExtended plus the latest GCam mods, so good by ColorOS!
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Any bugs? is everything working?

This is my first mobile after a lollipop, and I am proud of it.

Thinking of buying X2 Pro

Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you

ammarwajihi said:
Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you
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I have had the phone for a few weeks and it is fantastic. 90hz is great and the fast charging is a life saver. The OS is pretty decent and I'm done with all the bugs of custom ROMs. Could be better but totally good enough.
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ammarwajihi said:
Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you
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Sadly the main reason is that released sources are messy and not easily usable for custom rom building.
Luckily all phones released with Android 8+ have a separate vendor partition compatible with treble, a new way of updating the smartphone imposed by Google. This means you would be able to install any rom you want that was build as a generic GSI image.
I got this phone instead of a Xiaomi because the hardware is just so good, and I don't regret my choice. Also the software is not as bad as people say, of course it's not barebone Android but realme os should make it even better.

danypava said:
Sadly the main reason is that released sources are messy and not easily usable for custom rom building.
Luckily all phones released with Android 8+ have a separate vendor partition compatible with treble, a new way of updating the smartphone imposed by Google. This means you would be able to install any rom you want that was build as a generic GSI image.
I got this phone instead of a Xiaomi because the hardware is just so good, and I don't regret my choice. Also the software is not as bad as people say, of course it's not barebone Android but realme os should make it even better.
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I've sold my xiaomi mi note 10 and bouht x2 pro 12/256.
Didn't regret it for 1 second.

Thanks guys. I am confused between this one and Redmi K20 Pro, clearly this has good hardware and few other perks but K20 Pro has great development support.

ammarwajihi said:
Thanks guys. I am confused between this one and Redmi K20 Pro, clearly this has good hardware and few other perks but K20 Pro has great development support.
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I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup

danypava said:
I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup
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Yes, that's true

I was looking at the k20 pro,mi note 10 and this and went for the X2 pro simply because of the value for money,
90 hz
12gb ram
256gb ufs 3.0
50 watt charging,
People say downside is colorOs and yes it is not as good as other OS like Oxygen Is which I came from.
But it is not terrible at all and perfectly good in most areas,
RealmeUI is coming though and it looks impressive giving all things you would want in a feature rich OS from AOD to edge lighting,Im really excited for it.
If ROM support is really that important to you then I guess go with a 7T but for those who are not too pushed the X2 is perfect

danypava said:
I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup
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The world's most famous phone durability reviewer JerryRigEverything couldn't broke K20 Pro but your friends broke it in no time??? If you don't believe me find and watch video: Redmi K20 Pro Durability Test by JerryRigEverything.
So why are you lying and writing bad about other phones to make X2 Pro look better, that's not fair and honest?

Micronap said:
The world's most famous phone durability reviewer JerryRigEverything couldn't broke K20 Pro but your friends broke it in no time??? If you don't believe me find and watch video: Redmi K20 Pro Durability Test by JerryRigEverything.
So why are you lying and writing bad about other phones to make X2 Pro look better, that's not fair and honest?
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Woah woah dude, calm down. I follow Zack and see all of his reviews, I'm a phone fanatic and check out any news in the phone department.
Before this phone I had 2 different Xiaomi phones, I was valuating another one before getting this. I'm not attached to any brand or anything.
I'm just telling what happened to a couple of my friends, if you don't believe me I'll get photos of their phones but I don't see the point. I couldn't care less of what other people buy, the op just asked a question and I shared my experience.

manus31 said:
I was looking at the k20 pro,mi note 10 and this and went for the X2 pro simply because of the value for money,
90 hz
12gb ram
256gb ufs 3.0
50 watt charging,
People say downside is colorOs and yes it is not as good as other OS like Oxygen Is which I came from.
But it is not terrible at all and perfectly good in most areas,
RealmeUI is coming though and it looks impressive giving all things you would want in a feature rich OS from AOD to edge lighting,Im really excited for it.
If ROM support is really that important to you then I guess go with a 7T but for those who are not too pushed the X2 is perfect
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Yeah, it is value for money for sure. These companies are not like Apple that they will give software updates for 3-4 years, they suddenly drop support that's what I am afraid of.
That's why ROM development is very important for me I always want to use the latest Android. 7T is out of budget so I may opt for K20 Pro.

ammarwajihi said:
Yeah, it is value for money for sure. These companies are not like Apple that they will give software updates for 3-4 years, they suddenly drop support that's what I am afraid of.
That's why ROM development is very important for me I always want to use the latest Android. 7T is out of budget so I may opt for K20 Pro.
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I think people will refrain from unlocking and flashing because it breaks the FOD.
That is what made me go for the k20 because if you are a flashaholic like me, custom development is what matters the most.
I have suffered with my first phone with no development, the Coolpad Note 3. When new it seems nice but as time passes by with no updates. It gets very hard to deal with repeated factory resets, which is the only way left.
So all the rest of my phones that I bought had some of the best development teams...even till date.
Zuk z2
Poco f1
K20 pro/mi9t pro
So if you want to taste custom roms, you have to go the k20 way, but beware the FOD (Fingerprint Scanner) on custom roms on the K20 Pro aren't flawless byt still work with workarounds, including widewine L1 support.

Support is really poor and updates come later.
I like my X2 Pro but it is clear it is not a top range also because of this.
Honestly i think about spend my money for my next phone in Realme phones (except minor phones, maybe mostly supported).

HTCDevil said:
Support is really poor and updates come later.
I like my X2 Pro but it is clear it is not a top range also because of this.
Honestly i think about spend my money for my next phone in Realme phones (except minor phones, maybe mostly supported).
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This is not true,I bought the phone at Christmas and have had one update a month with latest security patch.
It has been known now for some time that Android 10 and realmeUI was coming in March so I don't know why people are complaining,
Software support has been on point and no promises were broken

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This is not true,I bought the phone at Christmas and have had one update a month with latest security patch.
It has been known now for some time that Android 10 and realmeUI was coming in March so I don't know why people are complaining,
Software support has been on point and no promises were broken
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I am referring to relevant updates, if you are happy because of having one update at month without real improvements, you are welcome.
We know about the "promise" of Realme about March update, but the reality is that Realme is slower than other brand, mostly with its top phone.
I don't understand, instead, why people accept everything and prefer to say that his phone is fantastic rather than underline failings, just because has got this phone.
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...and the point of first message is about development, i draw a veil over that argument, so we all expect at least to have real, good updates from manufacturer...
So if someone ask about it is right to say the truth.

February update now live in the UK site.

ngagephone said:
February update now live in the UK site.
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In Indian site too. Changelog is irrelevant

Change log is pretty much irrelevant on most phones... I've noticed lots of stuff not mentioned on the change logs on various devices.

ngagephone said:
Change log is pretty much irrelevant on most phones... I've noticed lots of stuff not mentioned on the change logs on various devices.
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For example?
Have you updated?
Please show us improvements, i am curious

HTCDevil said:
I am referring to relevant updates, if you are happy because of having one update at month without real improvements, you are welcome.
We know about the "promise" of Realme about March update, but the reality is that Realme is slower than other brand, mostly with its top phone.
I don't understand, instead, why people accept everything and prefer to say that his phone is fantastic rather than underline failings, just because has got this phone.
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...and the point of first message is about development, i draw a veil over that argument, so we all expect at least to have real, good updates from manufacturer...
So if someone ask about it is right to say the truth.
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Do you even have this phone ?
The quality of the updates have been decent. No real bugs with the software for most people,though have seen some people complain about minor things that they experience but I think most of us knew colorOs wasn't going to be perfect,
Another update just released today,this is better than most manufacturers,OnePlus for example only give Bi monthly and their releaselog is pretty pathetic at times mentioning improvements to weather app and unknown bug fixes.
Realme is definitely not slower than other brands,it's one of the quickest in actual fact and I for one don't feel at all like I'm accepting everything just because I own the phone,
I'm happy and looking forward to RealmeUI

General I am starting to hate this phone now for one reason!

No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!

Agreed

Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change

definitely.

They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss

easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.

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Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.

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They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?

saisannihith said:
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price

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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21

hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.

I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu

Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.

Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
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What is your problem?

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What is your problem?
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Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.

Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.

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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you

Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.

vendetta17 said:
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?

saisannihith said:
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
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Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.