Database Develop

Is it worth it?

So I'm about to change my OPO and I have 2 candidates: OP3 or Z2 Pro.
I'm wondering if the Z2 Pro, in your opinion, will have the same development in the future.
My biggest concern is having a choice if I don't like the stock one.
Do you think CM or other ROMS (Slim, PA, etc) will come for Z2? Or should I just go for the OP3 (which i didn't yet because of high demand 5 weeks shiptime and the camera which seems better on Z2 despite having less MP)?

We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
Sent from my ZUK Z2121 using Tapatalk

Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
Sent from my ZUK Z2121 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?

matrixino said:
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)

alvintan38 said:
Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?

The phone is awesome,
I am using stock rom with Nova launcher.
Nameless rom is now being developed if that is your kind of thing, I and others have donated to get support for this so I think it should be good, just need to wait for the launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/poll-whos-willing-to-donate-nameless-rom-t3456761
I suggest you also join Zukfans.eu forums for lots of info on CM / Mokee and roms and updates.
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2-pro.4/

matrixino said:
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's a really good phone, and i'm pretty sure it has a better display over the OP3's pentile optic amoled display, +the 128gb

Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow

ermacwins said:
Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"

matrixino said:
As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...

ermacwins said:
That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The nonplus version has only 64gb rom, dunno about ram (will see tomorrow). Also xiaomi phones don't have the lte band 20 support (800mhz) used in europe (this is a must for me). Add to this the fact that you are pretty much left with MIUI (xiaomi phones don't have much developing). A xiaomi phone isn't more worth than an op3 or z2 in the end. The only thing I like is the double camera, but we have to see how it performs yet.
Also I already own 2 xiaomis and they have some annoying bugs, so I'm more inclined toward something else.
But we will see once they are announced tomorrow.

can you make redmi note 9 merlin best official custom rom please

please make redmi note 9 merlin best official custom rom example corvus os, oxygen,pixel experience

BEST ROM DOESN'T EXIST

alonsoj636 said:
BEST ROM DOESN'T EXIST
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But make for it please.....

alonsoj636 said:
BEST ROM DOESN'T EXIST
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best rom doesn't exist. [2]
The best rom is the one you decide to be the best.
Personally, I really prefer original and untouched stock rom and this is the best rom for me.

VD171 said:
Best rom doesn't exist. [2]
The best rom is the one you decide to be the best.
Personally, I really prefer original and untouched stock rom and this is the best rom for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same for me , Stock MIUI is the best

[email protected] said:
But make for it please.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i bought the Redmi Note 10 ... i can't , sorry.

alonsoj636 said:
Same for me , Stock MIUI is the best
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But which custom rom option would be the most table with all the phones features working?
I mean I was reading about the pixel experience based on android 10 and got all exicted reading about the it and than boom some one mentioned that you cannot use your dual sim cards. Duh. It's a phone I bought it primarily for dual sim and dedicated sdcard. If that is not working why bother at all? Seemed to me like a rather important detail.
I prefer to stay stock rom if posssible since that should have all the sensors and hardware working. But the this is my first Mi and I find the MIUI bit of a challange (and ugly) . I cannot even use the mi remote if I refuse to login to my mi account. So no mi remote. And it feels a bit slower than my umidigo A5 pro from 2019 that has a MT6763 core 4 gb ram and 32gb running vanilla android 9 os.
That older phone just feels way faster than this one with better specs. I suspect it's because of miui. But it could be android 10 is just slower.
Anyway as time passes by I seem to beable to fix all the important issues. The most recent one was miui killing everything without any solution. So all my little gadgets that make miui usable for me stopped working with in hours.
I hope thats fixed too.
But if not it would be nice to know if there is a good stable as vanilla as possible rom out there that actually works or which one gets closest to this utopia?

Hans de Groot said:
But which custom rom option would be the most table with all the phones features working?
I mean I was reading about the pixel experience based on android 10 and got all exicted reading about the it and than boom some one mentioned that you cannot use your dual sim cards. Duh. It's a phone I bought it primarily for dual sim and dedicated sdcard. If that is not working why bother at all? Seemed to me like a rather important detail.
I prefer to stay stock rom if posssible since that should have all the sensors and hardware working. But the this is my first Mi and I find the MIUI bit of a challange (and ugly) . I cannot even use the mi remote if I refuse to login to my mi account. So no mi remote. And it feels a bit slower than my umidigo A5 pro from 2019 that has a MT6763 core 4 gb ram and 32gb running vanilla android 9 os.
That older phone just feels way faster than this one with better specs. I suspect it's because of miui. But it could be android 10 is just slower.
Anyway as time passes by I seem to beable to fix all the important issues. The most recent one was miui killing everything without any solution. So all my little gadgets that make miui usable for me stopped working with in hours.
I hope thats fixed too.
But if not it would be nice to know if there is a good stable as vanilla as possible rom out there that actually works or which one gets closest to this utopia?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use a ROM pixel and so far I have not seen any problems on redmi note 9. It sees the SIM cards, you can hardly worry about anything

General I am starting to hate this phone now for one reason!

No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!

Agreed

Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change

definitely.

They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss

easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.

hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.

Schumi_wk said:
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?

saisannihith said:
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price

speedtripler said:
How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21

hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.

I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu

Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.

Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is your problem?

hungragezone said:
What is your problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.

Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.

saisannihith said:
iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you

Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.

vendetta17 said:
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?

saisannihith said:
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.

Question Should I buy a redmi note 10 pro?

Hello, everyone. I'm hoping to join the redmi note 10 pro community very soon. However, I'm really confused whether I should invest in it because most of the reviews on Youtube are saying that there is always bugs. I was just wondering if any of you could tell me whether most of the bugs have been fixed by now. I just want to know if it is at least usable. It's got literally every feature I want. All I need to know is how is the software holding up. I've seen that even the Redmi note 10 is more stable than note 10 pro. I really hope that's not true.
Thanks in advance.

In my experience with it, which would be a few weeks now... I have not had any problems with it, as I am not what you would describe as a "power user".
All basic features which you would expect a mid-range smartphone to have, work perfectly.
This is all from my experiences, and my opinion. Hopefully someone else on here can also comment their thoughts.

I bought it one week ago: Only really bad thing is the AOD (better: NOT always on display). Furthermore, I didn't mention a single bug till now. So if you can deal without a AOD (there is a hack around, but it will suffer much from battery), buy it, really nothing wrong with it.

barryallen3038 said:
Hello, everyone. I'm hoping to join the redmi note 10 pro community very soon. However, I'm really confused whether I should invest in it because most of the reviews on Youtube are saying that there is always bugs. I was just wondering if any of you could tell me whether most of the bugs have been fixed by now. I just want to know if it is at least usable. It's got literally every feature I want. All I need to know is how is the software holding up. I've seen that even the Redmi note 10 is more stable than note 10 pro. I really hope that's not true.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you use your phone to connect to your car then please DO NOT BUY this phone. Android Auto does not work, irrespective of which region ROM you flash ,Seems to be an issue with the MIUI 12.5 and i am hoping this to be resolved with Android 12, but its JUST a hope.

Buy only if you're going to flash custom ROMs. Otherwise samsung can be a better alternative.

Thank you guys for replying so soon!
letscheckitout said:
If you use your phone to connect to your car then please DO NOT BUY this phone. Android Auto does not work, irrespective of which region ROM you flash ,Seems to be an issue with the MIUI 12.5 and i am hoping this to be resolved with Android 12, but its JUST a hope.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Android Auto is totally unheard of where I live xD. But yeah, I don't have a car so I can live with that. Honestly, though it's annoying that such a big company can't manage to fix the bugs on such a popular phone like this.
Regardless, I think I'll actually buy this phone cos it's got literally every feature you could ask for, including Dolby sound. I'm coming from a bloody Huawei P smart 2018 so literally any phone I buy will be great right now

[email protected] said:
Buy only if you're going to flash custom ROMs. Otherwise samsung can be a better alternative.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do have experience flashing custom ROMs but it was really bad. Every ROM I flashed had some kind of weird issue like WiFi wasn't working or GPS had issues and even the sound quality became worse.
Did you face any issues like these with your ROMs?

barryallen3038 said:
I do have experience flashing custom ROMs but it was really bad. Every ROM I flashed had some kind of weird issue like WiFi wasn't working or GPS had issues and even the sound quality became worse.
Did you face any issues like these with your ROMs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No such issues. We just need to find the right ROM.

No issues at all using CrDroid for "normal" use.

barryallen3038 said:
Hello, everyone. I'm hoping to join the redmi note 10 pro community very soon. However, I'm really confused whether I should invest in it because most of the reviews on Youtube are saying that there is always bugs. I was just wondering if any of you could tell me whether most of the bugs have been fixed by now. I just want to know if it is at least usable. It's got literally every feature I want. All I need to know is how is the software holding up. I've seen that even the Redmi note 10 is more stable than note 10 pro. I really hope that's not true.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Redmi Note 10 PRO 108MP is just the perfect phone for it's price!
NO ANY BUGS!
I have watched all phone YouTube reviews before getting one and I haven't met such a videos which you are dreaming about!

lubo777 said:
Redmi Note 10 PRO 108MP is just the perfect phone for it's price!
NO ANY BUGS!
I have watched all phone YouTube reviews before getting one and I haven't met such a videos which you are dreaming about!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm glad to hear that! I have watched many reviews, especially the ones after 60 days or 120 days and literally everyone said they faced this bug or that bug. The bugs itself are not always same but there is always bugs.
Anyway, I might actually end up buying it!

what about the proximity sensor issue ? Is it fixed when using custom roms ?

This phone rocks
Plenty of nice ROM depends of what you want.
Android Auto is working like a charm for me, battery is perfect and 0 bug, using Arrow OS. I'm really glad that i switched for this phone few months ago.

crazydude10 said:
what about the proximity sensor issue ? Is it fixed when using custom roms ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not for me sadly, very buggy in WhatsApp with AOSP Extended,

I think this is the most popular mid-range phone going around. Its reviews are great. I had Redmi Note 10 which was a budget masterpiece, had an insane battery life. This one surely will be better overall as its the pro model. I think in its budget this one is worth it.

General MIUI 13 global is just MIUI 12.5

So i just finished updating to MIUI 13 global on my supposedly new Xiaomi 11T Pro. Only to find out that it basically doesn't bring anything new. Literally nothing apart from that completely useless side bar.
The biggest new feature that Xiaomi was hyping everyone with is the new widgets. We'll they're missing. Nothing but the old 2009 looking widgets.
Even Android 12 features like color palettes thems are not included..
I means what's the point of this update. 3.5 gigabytes of update to instal a stupid side bar and some ugly wallpapers.
I'm really disappointed in this phone and in Xiaomi overall. Too bad it's a new phone that i can not change right now. But my next smartphone will definitely not be from Xiaomi.
Sadly i was a fan of this company and their business model. Now they're just taking us for fools.
500 euros phone doesn't get the features that 150 euros phones are getting from the same damn company. What is this.
I'll be going back to Samsung after all.
Have a good one fellas

I also think that 11t pro will be my first and last xiaomi phone, hardware is fine but software side of things is realy bad, im coming from oneplus2 as my last phone and software on that device was better i hope that lineageos will be available for 11t pro also

I'm the same, I've reported a bug and even how to fix it regarding Wi-Fi calling support in the UK (have had the fix on my personal device for a couple of months and it works perfectly but of course just for me) and it really requires Xiaomi to update their modem code. Every Qualcomm device they sell has the bug on EE in the UK due to bad config settings. Despite using the feedback tools months ago, raising it in their official forum which seems to be nothing more than PR management, the bug isn't fixed, and the file I linked to with details of the config settings hasn't been opened by anyone let alone Xiaomi. So just ignored.
They have far too many devices to be able to issue decent software on any of them as they can't have the resources to deal with them all.
Hardware is good, basically Qualcomm reference design with decent screen and camera, but the software is poor and support just doesn't exist.
I will not buying another one of their products ever again.

zizou_1991 said:
So i just finished updating to MIUI 13 global on my supposedly new Xiaomi 11T Pro. Only to find out that it basically doesn't bring anything new. Literally nothing apart from that completely useless side bar.
The biggest new feature that Xiaomi was hyping everyone with is the new widgets. We'll they're missing. Nothing but the old 2009 looking widgets.
Even Android 12 features like color palettes thems are not included..
I means what's the point of this update. 3.5 gigabytes of update to instal a stupid side bar and some ugly wallpapers.
I'm really disappointed in this phone and in Xiaomi overall. Too bad it's a new phone that i can not change right now. But my next smartphone will definitely not be from Xiaomi.
Sadly i was a fan of this company and their business model. Now they're just taking us for fools.
500 euros phone doesn't get the features that 150 euros phones are getting from the same damn company. What is this.
I'll be going back to Samsung after all.
Have a good one fellas
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
u really should try xiaomi.eu 13.0.4 for 11t pro. i was in the same position as urs but eu rom is really good. u dont even need twrp. its self flashes. and is way ahead with lots of features.

robo660660 said:
u really should try xiaomi.eu 13.0.4 for 11t pro. i was in the same position as urs but eu rom is really good. u dont even need twrp. its self flashes. and is way ahead with lots of features.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
where can i find that please ?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/miui-13-xiaomi-eu-for-xiaomi-11t-pro-v13-0-2-0-skdmixm.4374297/