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Is it worth it?

So I'm about to change my OPO and I have 2 candidates: OP3 or Z2 Pro.
I'm wondering if the Z2 Pro, in your opinion, will have the same development in the future.
My biggest concern is having a choice if I don't like the stock one.
Do you think CM or other ROMS (Slim, PA, etc) will come for Z2? Or should I just go for the OP3 (which i didn't yet because of high demand 5 weeks shiptime and the camera which seems better on Z2 despite having less MP)?

We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?

matrixino said:
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
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Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)

alvintan38 said:
Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
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Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?

The phone is awesome,
I am using stock rom with Nova launcher.
Nameless rom is now being developed if that is your kind of thing, I and others have donated to get support for this so I think it should be good, just need to wait for the launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/poll-whos-willing-to-donate-nameless-rom-t3456761
I suggest you also join Zukfans.eu forums for lots of info on CM / Mokee and roms and updates.
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2-pro.4/

matrixino said:
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
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It's a really good phone, and i'm pretty sure it has a better display over the OP3's pentile optic amoled display, +the 128gb

Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow

ermacwins said:
Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
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As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"

matrixino said:
As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...

ermacwins said:
That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
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The nonplus version has only 64gb rom, dunno about ram (will see tomorrow). Also xiaomi phones don't have the lte band 20 support (800mhz) used in europe (this is a must for me). Add to this the fact that you are pretty much left with MIUI (xiaomi phones don't have much developing). A xiaomi phone isn't more worth than an op3 or z2 in the end. The only thing I like is the double camera, but we have to see how it performs yet.
Also I already own 2 xiaomis and they have some annoying bugs, so I'm more inclined toward something else.
But we will see once they are announced tomorrow.

Still worthing buy the MI 5 in 2017?

Hello everyone!
So MI 6 is about to come in march 2017. I'm currently user of Nexus 5x and looking for a upgrade since the budget is limited, so I'm looking for a economic option.
I found an exchange with unboxed MI 5 with my nexus 5x. Should i buy MI 5 in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!

never had a phone with such excellent hardware and such poor software.
Every rom i tested had bugs bugs bugs. My cheapest android phone had better and mor stable software than all of the roms for MI5
Next phone will be definetly a hono 8 or somesthing like this

I have the model with 64gb and 3gb of ram, best phone for now. Personally I tell you to buy it, it's a good phone

I have 3gb 64gb version and I love it. I would say go for it:good:

Poor software? How? I didn't like MIUI but there are plenty of custom roms that work very well. For example LineageOS has very few bugs nowadays
If I compare this to my wife's Huawei... I would never change.
So, yes. The phone is still worth buying and custom Roms are developing all the time.
I have suggested this phone to my friends and they are also happy with it.

I bought the 64GB version about a month ago, coming from an Oppo Find 7 and I don't regret it. The hardware and the look and feel are excellent, the software is indeed not perfect, but the bugs are not that bad if you ask me.
I've only used MIUI since I got it, never had a Xiaomi phone before but I tried it on other phones and always kinda liked it. Currently I am on xiaomi.eu 8.1.6.0 and the only bugs worth mentioning that I found are:
- a touch problem, horizontal swipes are often detected as vertical, you have to be very accurate in your gestures, particularly when trying to remove notifications by swiping them.
- the microphone on wired headsets gets muted if you are on a call and you let the screen go to sleep while you talk . The issue doesn't happen when you lock the screen by pressing the button during the call.
Both issues are software-related because they do not occur on custom roms from what I've read.
One more thing is that it feels like the camera is let down by the software a bit. I isn't bad or anything like that, but it could've been better.

Echaeos said:
I have the model with 64gb and 3gb of ram, best phone for now. Personally I tell you to buy it, it's a good phone
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+1

sure why not?

Price performance ratio simply excellent phone
MIUI Global stable ROM is very stable (never had a problem with global ROM)
Best phone I ever owned
Custom Roms lots of them
U can't go wrong with mi5

notoriouspk said:
Price performance ratio simply excellent phone
MIUI Global stable ROM is very stable (never had a problem with global ROM)
Best phone I ever owned
Custom Roms lots of them
U can't go wrong with mi5
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Custom Roms lots of them ??
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
as far as i can see, there are only 3 Roms: native chinese, eu version, CM14, All other Roms are based on CM14. And as far as CM14 has no dual Ringtones, and even Notification Light on missed calls is not working there is no alternative to Miui

Is notification light for missed calls a deal breaker? Oh my... You have big problems.
And there is AOSP?

Of course i'll choose LOS rather than miui. Quickreply is important. Btw imo this phone is still worth to buy in 2017. There maybe still some bugs in current custom roms. But, it's improving for sure from time to time

Stock android

Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!

Useless on a Note !
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abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?

winol said:
By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.

I'm just adding my sentiment. If you want stock Android, get a Pixel device or Motorola or Nokia or almost anything else. You buy a Samsung device for the features they add. If you don't like or use those features, then don't buy something for $1,000 just to essentially cripple it afterwards.

abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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Lineage 15.1 was released yesterday for the note 8, it is in alpha stage though.

Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.

sandeepkumar0153 said:
I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.

Ace42 said:
Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
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Couldn't agree more on this. I bought my note 8 after i have used a note 8 port rom on my j7 2016.
And honestly i will prefer the note this way and i haven't even rooted yet. I miss viper4android so much but atleast we have Dolby atmos in N8.

iceepyon said:
I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Exactly, you buy a note device for what i gives not what you can mod it into using a custom rom. Root and xposed is an other thing, but custom rom, that too an AOSP ? Completely dumb people out there.

I think it is about choice, not stupidity, like it's said a couple of times here.
Let people do what they want with their phone, like you do.

The thing is i am a university student and thought that i would use the pen.. turned out i didn't use it nor did i use any of the other features..
Second i am not from the US so pixel is not an option unless i would pay around 100 to 200 extra dollar to get it without a warranty.. this goes to the oneplus..
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..

abdulrrahman said:
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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You do know that once you install a custom OS on the Note. The camera quality goes down. As custom OSes do not have the same camera optimisation software as the Samsung Stock OS.

I was planning to use the pixel camera app

abdulrrahman said:
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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Of course yo would, that is the point, once you install a stock android,, the camera will no longer be driven by the samsung software, exactly what iceepyon told you, the samsung hardware is specifically constructed to work efficiently with samsung firmwares

Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
People are not "dumb or stupid" if they're looking for customization options on XDA. They're maybe "wrong" in some cases. Just tell them why.
To answer your question:
These days there are too many flagships and midrange phones out there. Also The oems use different hardwares and barely release their source codes and drivers. Plus, stock roms are way more feature rich and fluid than before. For all these reasons the development of vanilla based roms is limited and less reasonable for most phones. Except pixel phones and Android one phones. Even there, all different roms are lineage-based and basically the same, with same features and same bugs! But different visuall traits!
There is a Lineage os for note 8.0 but in very early stages. About other custom roms (stock based), they do a great job in terms of features and removing so called bloatwares, but personally I recommend you staying on stock because unlike few years ago, stock roms get you better performance, features, battery life, etc. I'm currently using pixel 2 and note 8 and trust me, you get bored by plain android!

pooyab said:
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
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Now I'm going to watch Taylor Swift music videos and read the comments, when I get home.

Custom ROM/Developer?

Hi guys! Just want to ask regarding custom ROM developer for our device as I noticed that there is only one developer that is working as of now. And based on his thread his not willing to work with anyone.
My question is any chance that there for other developer to work on our device? Coming from my previous device(mia1) lineage is well supported, little bit worried plus this is also my first time using miui and I'm not impressed. But hardware is top notch plus no moving parts ,this is a good device.
This question is just query without any demand to anyone. Thank you.

I'm using Pixel Experience GSI bro, and straight up not having a good time, but still better than miui (it's my personal taste). At this point, consider how this device had been out, i dont think we see any official roms any time soon

Unfortunately, the smartphone doesn't get the attention it deserves. But hope dies last.

vannrith said:
I'm using Pixel Experience GSI bro, and straight up not having a good time, but still better than miui (it's my personal taste). At this point, consider how this device had been out, i dont think we see any official roms any time soon
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What do you mean by not having a good time? Full of bugs and broken features?

Kadyo said:
Hi guys! Just want to ask regarding custom ROM developer for our device as I noticed that there is only one developer that is working as of now. And based on his thread his not willing to work with anyone.
My question is any chance that there for other developer to work on our device? Coming from my previous device(mia1) lineage is well supported, little bit worried plus this is also my first time using miui and I'm not impressed. But hardware is top notch plus no moving parts ,this is a good device.
This question is just query without any demand to anyone. Thank you.
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Why not try the Lineage ROM? We're very lucky to have an active dev working on it!
Saying that I would love to see a Pixel ROM at some point, but I'm not complaining...

Warrimonk said:
What do you mean by not having a good time? Full of bugs and broken features?
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what bugged me the most is the fingerprint scanning and no face unlock.

qmtd said:
Why not try the Lineage ROM? We're very lucky to have an active dev working on it!
Saying that I would love to see a Pixel ROM at some point, but I'm not complaining...
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Im just waiting for the selinux fix and I'll try.

Boeserfleck said:
Unfortunately, the smartphone doesn't get the attention it deserves. But hope dies last.[/QUOTE
Yes you're right. I think mi 9 lite is superior than mi 9 se(small battery) and mi9t(moving front camera. Only downside is the processor,but you will not notice the difference in day to day task. Hopefully some devs will notice our device as this one should be the mia3. If @Flex can help us,that will be great. No 1 contributor to mia1.
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I really hope we get an Official LineAge OS very soon!

prefor said:
I really hope we get an Official LineAge OS very soon!
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Patiently waiting for this to happen .

Boeserfleck said:
Unfortunately, the smartphone doesn't get the attention it deserves. But hope dies last.
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what bugged me the most is the fingerprint scanning and no face unlock.
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Have you been able to modify the icons space in the statusbar?

I'm trying to make the rom bliss for pyxis, but to no sucess at the moment.

NaassomDourado said:
I'm trying to make the rom bliss for pyxis, but to no sucess at the moment.
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I'm also working on a rom for the device. There sure is a steep learning curve. At the moment, building roms that are based on Android 10 are quite a pain due to the fact that Xiaomi has not released the Android Q kernel source for pyxis. They're still on Pie.

Echo2124 said:
I'm also working on a rom for the device. There sure is a steep learning curve. At the moment, building roms that are based on Android 10 are quite a pain due to the fact that Xiaomi has not released the Android Q kernel source for pyxis. They're still on Pie.
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Yeah, and the trees are for Q, it would be nice to be able to build P

General I am starting to hate this phone now for one reason!

No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!

Agreed

Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change

definitely.

They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss

easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.

hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.

Schumi_wk said:
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?

saisannihith said:
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price

speedtripler said:
How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21

hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.

I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu

Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.

Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
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What is your problem?

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What is your problem?
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Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.

Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.

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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you

Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.

vendetta17 said:
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?

saisannihith said:
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
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Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.