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[APK] Bluetooth Launch v2.0.1 Beta (11/19/2010)

So this started in the Cognition thread, but I figure it probably is useful for other ROMs and people.
So are you like me? You've hooked up your bluetooth mic, and pressed the voice action button and your phone looks at you stupidly? Wouldn't it be nice if there was a way you could start Google Voice Actions or possibly Vlingo's Recognize and Execute?
Here's the thing, currently Google Voice Actions and Vlingo can't hear over the bluetooth mic. Still, this will launch the voice app, and allow you to speak through your phone's mic.
I've considered creating a version where you can select any app; however, unless there's some demand for a feature like that I don't want to go through that kind of pain and suffering.
Feedback is appreciated.
Oh and finally, this is a very early version, so you won't find it on the app market or such. If I have time, I'll polish it up, but for now, this is good enough to fix the issue for most people.
If you find this useful, please let me know. There's no reason to polish something no one needs/uses.
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1.5 Beta
So this is a little rough around the edges but it is functional. The first load will be slow, but application names are cached after that load. Still need to indicate what the user has selected in the past as well as sort the list.
2.0 Beta
Fixed the rough edges, nice radio buttons in the list. Sorted alphabetically. Oh and TheYar suggested waking up the phone to run the action. Not only is it doing that, but it'll bypass the screen lock.
Now some are saying, but wait isn't that a bad thing? Well yes and no. First the screen lock comes back when the action is complete, or bluetooth launch closes. Second, bluetooth headsets must be paired first to get access, so a thief would have to know to grab your headset and phone to get into your phone. The risk is low but not 0, so in the next version, you'll have a way to turn that feature on or off.
2.0.1 Beta
As TheYar pointed out, there's a bug where you may have to hit the bluetooth button twice. This is a bug in the underlying framework and there's nothing my app can do about that. That said, I added a vibrate on launch feature to this new version. No other changes were made.
Change Log:
11/19/10: 2.0.1 Beta Vibrate on launch
11/18/10: 2.0 Beta Choices shown, remembered in the list, sorted alphabetically (so learn your ABC's) and phone wake, lock screen disable.
11/17/10: 1.5 Beta Select any activity, better icon
11/12/10: 1.1.1 Updated some text, added icon
11/11/10: 1.1 Added Settings and Vlingo
11/10/10: 1.0 Initial Revision

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Sweet!
Unfortunately it doesn't do anything for me, running Cog 2.3.3. I've turned my headset on/off, BT on/off, no response to button.
Pressing "Confirm Selection" doesn't do anything either, should it?
Update - Rebooting makes it work, stupid me...THANKS!

pkley said:
Sweet!
Unfortunately it doesn't do anything for me, running Cog 2.3.3. I've turned my headset on/off, BT on/off, no response to button.
Pressing "Confirm Selection" doesn't do anything either, should it?
Update - Rebooting makes it work, stupid me...THANKS!
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Confirm selection saves the settings. I should change the name, thanks.
It shouldn't require a reboot, but there may have been something subtle going on that a reboot fixed.

Updated!
Added some polish. Launcher icon + text changes to make things more clear.

I think it would be handy if there was some text to confirm that the settings were set.
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I think it would be handy if there was some text to confirm that the settings were set.
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If I understand what you're asking for, I think the text at the bottom is just that. I'll see if I can re-word it to be more clear.

Coming Soon
So I had some time to play with things over the weekend, I'll be releasing a new versions soon.
Features will include:
Selecting the activity you want to launch
Better icon (not washed out)

This app works very well. You did a great job man.

Teaser
Got this working today, takes way too long to load right now, and only shows the names right now.

Hooray. I am happy to report that I can now use my BlueAnt T1 to control the Google Voice Commands. Awesome! Even though it passes the audio to the phone my headset still thinks my phone does not support it. But it works well enough for now till I can get an updated firware on my T1 headset.
I'm using Cognition.v2.2.Beta7.UCJI6 at the moment.

Beta Version Up
New version up, calling it beta because of the rough edges.
Enjoy!

Updated to the new 1.5 BETA. I switched back to my Plantronics Voyager 855 until I can update the firmware on my T1. The beta works. Thanks again for releasing this.

Wow this is great. I've been wanting to voice dial on my Captivate ever since I got it and this is the first time I've been able to do it.
I've noticed that often it doesn't respond until the second time I try to activate it. Maybe this is just a delay, not sure.
Any thoughts on how this could function when the screen is locked? Google voice actions are pretty powerful, so I doubt that full voice action functionality would be possible from a locked device. But maybe someone has some 2.2 source from another platform that includes how a call might be initiated over BT even when the screen is locked?
Thanks for this app. Loving it.

TheYar said:
Wow this is great. I've been wanting to voice dial on my Captivate ever since I got it and this is the first time I've been able to do it.
I've noticed that often it doesn't respond until the second time I try to activate it. Maybe this is just a delay, not sure.
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It appears to be a bug in the handling of bluetooth with the system, I can reproduce it without my app. Basically it appears that the system isn't releasing the bluetooth handle in a reasonable way, as my headphones that do bluetooth to both an iPod and a phone at the same time won't start playing again. I wish I could fix this.
TheYar said:
Any thoughts on how this could function when the screen is locked? Google voice actions are pretty powerful, so I doubt that full voice action functionality would be possible from a locked device. But maybe someone has some 2.2 source from another platform that includes how a call might be initiated over BT even when the screen is locked?
Thanks for this app. Loving it.
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This is a good idea. Look for it in a few minutes.

I just got done adding 1.5 to another DG ROM zip and decided to check here before flashing it. I'm am so psyched!!
Since you seem to be greased lightning on feedback and improvements, I'll throw another one out there - voice feedback into the headset speaker to let you know it is ready. I know that this functionality might better sit with the launched app (and sometimes does), but perhaps a configurable option to detect when the launched app has launched at least, and then react by saying "ready" or such in my ear. Then I'd care even less than I already do about the handle release problem with the bluetooth stack.
As for the lock screen bypass... yeah. I'm a security pro myself, but I agree that the risk there is low and acceptable, compared to the risk I face trying to security-unlock my screen while driving. Watch out though, people tend to freak out on this issue. The press went wild when the Droid opted for default Voice Action access through the lock screen, referring to it as a major security bug and design flaw. Of course, in that case it was accessible even without a headset, just a long-press of the search.
Let me know when this hits market and charge money for it, or at least offer a donation. Gladly pay. Considering this is the first time I've been able to accurately bluetooth dial since 6 years and three phones ago, you are officially a genius.

TheYar said:
I just got done adding 1.5 to another DG ROM zip and decided to check here before flashing it. I'm am so psyched!!
Since you seem to be greased lightning on feedback and improvements, I'll throw another one out there - voice feedback into the headset speaker to let you know it is ready. I know that this functionality might better sit with the launched app (and sometimes does), but perhaps a configurable option to detect when the launched app has launched at least, and then react by saying "ready" or such in my ear. Then I'd care even less than I already do about the handle release problem with the bluetooth stack.
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Your previous comment came in at just the right time to add an extra piece to the development cycle. The feature was easy, so I got it in. That said, playing through the bluetooth device appears to be a hard thing, I'll see what I can do about this. The easier thing to do, which I'm going to put in place soon, is to simply vibrate the phone, so that'll be the first step.
TheYar said:
As for the lock screen bypass... yeah. I'm a security pro myself, but I agree that the risk there is low and acceptable, compared to the risk I face trying to security-unlock my screen while driving. Watch out though, people tend to freak out on this issue. The press went wild when the Droid opted for default Voice Action access through the lock screen, referring to it as a major security bug and design flaw. Of course, in that case it was accessible even without a headset, just a long-press of the search.
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This is why I want the user to explicitly configure if they want this behavior. I'll look at adding a menu with settings. I want to get that done before I add in playing though the headset.
TheYar said:
Let me know when this hits market and charge money for it, or at least offer a donation. Gladly pay. Considering this is the first time I've been able to accurately bluetooth dial since 6 years and three phones ago, you are officially a genius.
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Actually, this is my first app, so I haven't paid the fee for developers to the app store. This is relatively simple, but I may put in a paypal link for development supplies. You know the standard: sex, drugs (beer), rock and roll.
I don't want to tip my hand for the other ideas I'm going to work on, but once this is mostly complete, I'm going to start on my next couple of apps, which I'm affectionately calling "Ring Rules" and "When I Get Home" right now. Those will likely have free and paid versions in the app store. (Assuming I get enough time to write them.)

Word, vibrate on launch. Dug. My handset is usually in a cradle or empty seat or sliding around the floorboard somewhere, so I might not get to use it much. But definitely a worthy X.X.1 enhancement. Looking forward to the other two apps you tease there; if my guesses are correct then they would both be of value to me.
On the lock-screen bypass: definitely, making it configurable would be preferable and snazzy. But on the old Windows Mobile Voice Command, this was configurable and disabled by default and it still got a good bit of bad feedback as a security bug. My 2 cents would be to make the setting work like the USB debugging setting in a stock ROM. Enabling it requires you to acknowledge a pop-up that warns and explains the risk. This might limit the number of armchair professional comments you get in the Market that are all caps and scream about how your app has security bugs and allows people to hack androids and steal all the datums and megahurtz off of them.

Hey thanks for this app, used voice dialing and commands all of the time on my Tilt with WinMo 6.0, only real downside of Android is not implementing this feature in an easy to use format IMO. I'm still figuring out vlingo but I can finally use my BlueAnt ST3 the way I used to, or almost anyway. Thanks again.

I started with yur earlier version that did Google Voice only, then the one that you could choose between GV and Vlingo.
Just installed latest version, and getting FCs.
I don't know if it is because I am selecting wrong COM item under (I've tried several under Vlingo, and get double vibrate, then FC each time) the app, or this application itself. But bringing up a long list of all the different components of various programs makes it immensely more difficult to get an operational program.
Going back to earlier version for now.
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I was able to get it to work with Google Voice, but never did with Vlingo.
I now realize that 3 vibes is normal. I'd prefer an option to turn that off.

Detailed Comparison of Tizen vs. Android on the GG1

Mods: I'm hoping you'll let this thread stay. The one dedicated Tizen thread is a combination of how to install/uninstall, personal views of the change, and discussion of actual changes and features. It's really hard to follow and at the speed Samsung's pushing out Tizen (all the EU's already done) it's going to be a large share of this forum's discussion that'll be difficult to contain to one thread.
NakedFaerie said:
Tizen is really crap if you ask me.
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Why don't you like the Tizen update? Personally, I love it!
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You're both right. It depends on what your view of the GG1's purpose is and what you bought it for.
If you bought it as a garage hobby to tinker with, sideload apps for larger displays, and to run it stand-alone and type and watch movies on a tiny display just because you can Samsung's abandonment of Android for the Gear family is a bummer. I've admired the things people like this have done but other than the sport of it I don't (personally) get it.
For people that bought a Gear (or any wearable) for the productivity benefits Samsung moving the GG1 to Tizen is great. Look at it this way, with the move away from Android with the GG2's the GG1 was an orphan. No one was developing apps for it even before the move and Samsung would have stopped providing updates for it also. So it would have suffered death by neglect. Samsung's sold (or shipped) an estimated 1M GG1's so add that user base to the ongoing Samsung/Tizen mix and you have the largest wearable audience out there and at least a chance of gaining some developer interest.
My thoughts after using Tizen for a few days...
The "ugly"
The lack of apps available is a big deal. Some people with GG2's have said they have more apps available in Samsung Apps than we do for the GG1 so hopefully what's missing is just Samsung having issues getting the GG1 configured in their App store. Some of the apps I used heavily and liked are gone: TripIt, Glympse, CNN, Vivino, and Peel Remote for example. I doubt some will be back so I'm kind of bummed.
The "bad"
I miss the ability to swipe down to access the Camera and swipe up to access settings (my upward swipeable app of choice). It's kind of strange that something so simple couldn't have been replicated in Tizen. The solution is to use the App clock which gets you access just as quickly. I'd rather have the weather showing but c'est la vie.
The "good"
So far, there's not a single stock app or feature I've found that's not better in Tizen than Android. Some examples.
Gear Manager
It's cleaner, faster, and better organized. The Home screen styler provides nice customizations without having to install battery-draining third party apps to stylize the watch face. The amount of discussion in this forum dedicated to watch faces kind of boggles my mind. So for the watch face obsessed the new customizations should be welcome. Before, if your phone lost its connection to the Gear, Gear Manager closed. Now, it stays open and displays a warning in the notification panel that the connection's been lost. There are settings now that allow you to receive notifications on your Gear while the phone's display is on and to receive notifications on your Gear without illuminating the display. Pretty nifty.
Connectivity
Way better. I can be about 15' further from my phone before my Gear loses its connection compared to Android. The phone/Gear also maintain their connection better and re-connect faster when it's lost. I like the audible notification when the connection is gained and lost too. Smart relay and Auto lock are a lot faster and more reliable too. Weather updates reliably for me every hour which was pretty random before. When a third BT device was thrown in the mix the Gear and my phone would fight for the connection. For example when I was in my car using BT audio. Everyone plays nice now.
UI
I -hate- the default Tizen interface display which is small icons flanking the clock. I liked the former jumbo icons because when running through an airport or walking on a street they are a lot easier to hit when moving. The new UI is highly customizable and there are now two home screen display options. The large clock/small icons default and the former jumbo icons. I was bummed when I first saw that "favorites" and "re-ordering" apps was gone from Gear Manager. It isn't gone it's now on the Gear itself and on steroids. Long pressing an app in the Apps panel allows it to be moved to the home screen. You can even re-order apps within the app panel by dragging and dropping them. The home screen works the same way. The clock is the default home page. You can re-order apps around it by dragging and dropping them. Long-pressing something on the home screen allows it to be deleted. Other than the loss of drag up/down app access from the clock screen I can't see how anyone can say the new Tizen UI approach isn't more customizable, flexible, and better overall.
Here's a quick vid of the Gear set up with jumbo icons as before...
Notifications
Hallelujah. What a mess the Android notification apps/management process was. Call logs getting stuck with no way to remove them, CNN staying in notifications permanently after the first notification was received, e-mail being treated separately, just to name a few. Every notification is now treated as a peer. While on the Notifications main screen you can now drag down and "delete all" appears so all your notifications can be deleted at once. The same exists for all individual notification categories too.
Mail
Gear Manager now lets you specify what e-mail accounts you want displayed on your Gear. In addition, you can now keep scrolling and read 100% of a received e-mail. If you're in the dedicated e-mail app you can now swipe left or right to delete a single e-mail. Maybe the old Android e-mail app did that too, I never tried it.
Messaging
There's now a dedicated messaging app. Messages now display with accompanying received pictures too. If you're in the app and swipe down a "send message" option's available that allows you to scroll your contacts with mobile numbers and originate a message from a template or using S voice. Speaking of which you now set either as a default across the device to manage how you reply. You can also now send an emoticon (only) as a message or reply.
Contacts
Way faster scrolling. Swipe right to call and left to message works the same but the latter now actually works. In Android it would stumble over +1 or "(XXX)" around an area code. Contacts with pictures now have their pictures show up reliably wherever the Gear's able to display them.
S voice/Speaker/Mic
Wow, what a difference. S voice is twice as fast and the speaker/mic both louder/clearer. I've tested calls with some friends and they said I sounded fine where before I faded in and out and sounded like I was underwater.
Camera
Way faster and now includes geo-tagging. Voice now actually works consistently (EG: "shoot") which is a lot easier than trying to hit the display and allows you to look at your subject and not just your wrist when setting up a picture. The video limit is 15 seconds. Transfer speeds to the host device are now a lot faster too.
Music Player
Kind of cool. I used it with BT ear buds when mowing the lawn and it was surprisingly strong. Kind of a neat feature to have when you don't want to schlep your phone around to listen to music. I have a N3 so not schlepping it around is a bigger benefit than to someone with a S4 mini.
Fitness with Gear app/Health
I never used S Health on my phone but with the changes made to the Gear's health reporting and syncing apps I'll probably start. I've only browsed the apps/functions available but what they track seems interesting to capture and monitor to improve your health-related habits or routines.
So, for those that use their Gear for the out-of-the-box features the upside's pretty strong to move to Tizen. The biggest downside is the limited number of apps and the potential loss of those you may have used previously. The swipe up/down loss is a bummer but by using the Apps clock certainly livable. For those that bought the Gear as a "franken-watch" to play with you're obviously better off skipping Tizen.
If I've gotten anything wrong or if someone wants to add something to the list to keep it current just let me know.

Thanks for your detailed information! This Tizen thingy is Iching me so much right now, but as there is no way back(for now), there won't be any chance for me at this moment. As I play instruments I use my gear alot to tune instruments(it works pretty well!). And there is no way this will be available on Tizen(so far).

Thanks OP for the breakdown. I was one of those that bought this thing as a "garage product" when they were blowing them out for $100. I loved tinkering with it so much (installing Null rom) that I eventually bit the bullet and upgraded my aging Note 1 for an officially supported Note 2 hoping to reap better battery life from the upspec to BT 4.0 and better Gear Manager pairing.
Sadly, this has not been the case...So I am now pondering the benefits of Tizen and it's purported battery life enhancement. Can you comment further on this?
Can your setup make "hands free" calls? Currently I have the Google Now Launcher on my Gear and I can place calls by simply saying "OK Google, Call my Wife". Can something similiar be done with S Voice?

Hi Barry_GEG ,
To start , i to like to state , that i was one of " those" forum members ,not really interested in upgrading (?)
That said i was curious and open to suggestions and advice.!!
Read your detailed comparison and thought about it for a while and then came to conclusion you got some good points covered.!!
Well i flashed Tizen , and yes first impressions ( always count !!! )
Gear 1 is much smoother now (really trust me on this and Barry_GEG ) ,but the deal breaker for me is the music player !!
( i thought i could play music on my Gear 1, but via no headset, no go.! )
but this music player is a basic stand alone player.!!
I tested it with my Plantronic headset ,very impressed .!
I transferred my music to Gear via pc (switched my Note 3 bluetooth off )
I was connected directly with bluetooth headset to Gear and it plays 100% without handset ( Note 3 ).
This to me is already worthwhile.and a big bonus .
Forget about sentiments about this o/s and that o/s.
.( i am not a Tizen fan, as long as i can use my Gear better, it has to do )
Yes ,i lose some apps etc..and not much apps true, but found a good watchface in store .
(Not interested further, at moment about extra apps )
yes, to me already the stand alone music player
( Gear 1 on wrist and headset @ bluetooth connected ) is a worth while bonus .( for me )
Good luck ,
Thanks
Post note ..battery ,well we will just have to see ,but it looks ok ?

Battery life! It has been great. I just flashed it last night and it drained 1% in 12 hours.
The music player is a welcome add on, I like to run without distraction from phone.

Man, is there no way to send a msg template using another sms app? I hate the stock messaging app..
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Using the music player, does anyone know or have tried to listen to an audio book from overdrive or audible? I still use a little ipod to work around the house/garden and would love to use just one device.

This is pretty cool. You can move content off and on the Gear via USB rather than, for example, having to transfer music to the Gear via Gear Manager which has an 11 song at a time limit and is painfully slow.
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You can also load off-line pictures and videos for display/playback via the Gallery app. Here's a sample MP4 I transferred to the Gear via USB. Notice how decent the audio sounds. It was never that clear on Android, at least for me.
So basically we can use the Gear now to playback photo, video, and audio files. We just have to figure out what file formats it supports.

ive updated my gear to tizen and I love it, watch styler works very well and the interface is clean
only 1 problem I think
I goto gear manager ,then Samsung apps,
completely nothing there, no apps at all
has this happened to anyone else

rachaelslp said:
Using the music player, does anyone know or have tried to listen to an audio book from overdrive or audible? I still use a little ipod to work around the house/garden and would love to use just one device.
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I listened to an hour and a half podcast in MP3 format, so I would think if you have Audible in that one, that you would be able to listen to it too.

how did you get watchstyler installed? please share how if you don't mind
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Hello,
I'm new here and be interested to now if there is anny chance that after flash tizen the watch is able to work whit Nexus 5 ? (notification and calls)
Thx Alex

Notifications working really well for me on Tizen paired with an Xperia Z Ultra. You get to pick which apps are allowed to notify through gear manager and then they sync up well. Attached is a pic (sorry for quality) of Tapatalk xda notifications I just got a minutes ago.
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Update: media control also works very well with non samsung device - full control of poweramp was very unexpected.
Calls tested and working too. Photos sync back to phone and everything else is working as expected. For a non Samsung paired device the Tizen update is a good one (in my opinion).

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Notifications working really well for me on Tizen paired with an Xperia Z Ultra. You get to pick which apps are allowed to notify through gear manager and then they sync up well. Attached is a pic (sorry for quality) of Tapatalk xda notifications I just got a minutes ago.
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Update: media control also works very well with non samsung device - full control of poweramp was very unexpected.
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Ok thx for the information i will flash my gear and test it this evening
You don't have installed gearmanager on phone ?
Alex

Yes, have gear manager installed (plus about 10 other gear apps) - you will need to install gear manager and associated apps for anything to work - there's a gear manager thread to guide you through it
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After the restore to fix the battery its getting better but I would still go back to Android if there was a way. Yesterday a few of us found out you can flash the Android firmware but you had no touch so you couldn't do anything.
As it just got rooted hopefully it will get better faster.

forshaw said:
only 1 problem I think
I goto gear manager ,then Samsung apps,
completely nothing there, no apps at all
has this happened to anyone else
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I had this exact issue and finally got it resolved today.
After clearing data on the Gear Manager app, logging out/in, etc. what eventually fixed it for me was uninstalling and re-installing Gear Manager.
Good luck!

@caseyc are you on Gear1 or 2 ?
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kashortiexda said:
@caseyc are you on Gear1 or 2 ?
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Gear 1

caseyc said:
I had this exact issue and finally got it resolved today.
After clearing data on the Gear Manager app, logging out/in, etc. what eventually fixed it for me was uninstalling and re-installing Gear Manager.
Good luck!
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but now no watchstyler
I had watchstyler working before uninstalling gear manager,

Controlling my phone with Tasker while riding my motorbike

Hey all, I'm wondering if anyone here can help me solve a problem I'm having. I think I can use Tasker to accomplish my goal but there is a missing piece that I hope you could help me with.
I listen to audiobooks during my commute to and from work on my motorcycle. There are tasker commands that I can pass to the audio book player (Smart Audiobook Player) but I want to be able to start and stop the audio book player without taking my phone out of my jacket and starting it or stopping it manually. Getting to my phone is no easy matter because of the jacket, gloves and misc straps involved with riding and also I could only do it only when pulled to the side of the road or parked.
Do you know if there's a way to pass some sort of command to my phone wirelessly? The only thing I could think of was to use an NFC tag in my glove and pass it over the area where I keep my phone. But I haven't tested that yet and I'm not sure if it will work through leather/ fabric. Also it would mean that I couldn't switch gloves or my jacket either.
Ideally, there would be a bluetooth (or some other protocol) button that I'd press to be picked up by the phone.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
dq

NFC - need screen ON.
Buy
http://s.aliexpress.com/bIFNFfAb
(from AliExpress Android)
or the like for this. Use as a switch. Smart AudioBook supports intents.
Click
1. Variable add 1 [random 2] %Trigger
2. Play [if %Trigger = 1]
3. Stop/Pause [if %Trigger = 0]

don quixada said:
Ideally, there would be a bluetooth (or some other protocol) button that I'd press to be picked up by the phone.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
dq
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AutoVoice > BT Button Pressed context
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don quixada said:
The only thing I could think of was to use an NFC tag in my glove and pass it over the area where I keep my phone. But I haven't tested that yet and I'm not sure if it will work through leather/ fabric.
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NFC should work fine trough any fabric as long as its not metallic.
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NFC - need screen ON.
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NFC can work with the phone locked and screen turned off by modding the NFC.apk or even simpler by using the Xposed framework + the "NFC LockScreenOff Enabler" module

I like the bluetooth remote idea. I could mount it on my bike somewhere. What about this?
Bluetooth Camera Remote.
It is a little simpler to use because there are less buttons (also it is cheaper). Or would it only control the camera? I'm not sure how bluetooth remotes actually work and what commands they give...
dq

@alray
Xposed mod do not work on LL and next. NFC app modding is not easy..
@don quixada
i do not know, i did not use [button only for camera]

frrancuz. said:
@alray
Xposed mod do not work on LL and next.
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Does "LL" stands for Lollipop or you hit the wrong key twice and meant MM? Cause i'm currently running this Xposed mod on my Lollipop 5.0.2 phone without any issue... Might not work on MM 6.0 but its for sure working fine on Lollipop.
NFC app modding is not easy..
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So because its not easy it shouldn't be done/tried?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59941326&postcount=497
Anyway, Looks like OP prefer to go with bluetooth :good:, just saying that its also possible to go NFC, and its far from being impossible/hard to do. But yes, bluetooth will probably be an easier way to achieve this.

frrancuz. said:
NFC - need screen ON.
Buy
http://s.aliexpress.com/bIFNFfAb
(from AliExpress Android)
or the like for this. Use as a switch. Smart AudioBook supports intents.
Click
1. Variable add 1 [random 2] %Trigger
2. Play [if %Trigger = 1]
3. Stop/Pause [if %Trigger = 0]
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hi, let's just say everything else doesn't matter, how do I send intent to the player?
Of course, if the OP doesn't use intent, he can try AutoInput for the task.

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actually, if you just need the simple play, pause, you can use a shake event, so when you knock the phone from outside the pocket, Tasker will register it as shaking in certain direction, and do the task.
For this to work, you will probably need condition:
- proximity (in the pocket)
- shake backward forward, sensitivity medium-high (test it out)
-app running: smart audiobook player, so it doesn't always trigger
- maybe also only when headset/certain Bluetooth headset plugged in
if there are too many state conditions and Tasker refuses to add all of them, try putting them in a separate profile, which activated an 'audiobook on the road' mode/variable. Then use this variable with the shake event in the main profile.
I find this trick really helpful when a certain profile needs too many conditions.

Shaking the phone is a really good idea in most cases. Unfortunately I don't think that it would work on a motorcycle what with the bike vibration, bumps in the road, railway tracks and constant movement by the rider.
I'm going to play around with my selfie-stick bluetooth to see if I can get any positive results before ordering anything.
Personally I wish I could use some sort of RFID as I think that would be the most surefire method...
dq

don quixada said:
Hey all, I'm wondering if anyone here can help me solve a problem I'm having. I think I can use Tasker to accomplish my goal but there is a missing piece that I hope you could help me with.
I listen to audiobooks during my commute to and from work on my motorcycle. There are tasker commands that I can pass to the audio book player (Smart Audiobook Player) but I want to be able to start and stop the audio book player without taking my phone out of my jacket and starting it or stopping it manually. Getting to my phone is no easy matter because of the jacket, gloves and misc straps involved with riding and also I could only do it only when pulled to the side of the road or parked.
Do you know if there's a way to pass some sort of command to my phone wirelessly? The only thing I could think of was to use an NFC tag in my glove and pass it over the area where I keep my phone. But I haven't tested that yet and I'm not sure if it will work through leather/ fabric. Also it would mean that I couldn't switch gloves or my jacket either.
Ideally, there would be a bluetooth (or some other protocol) button that I'd press to be picked up by the phone.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
dq
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don't most bluetooth headphones already have a button that pauses and plays audio? every one ive ever owned has, and i've had at least 12

I think his Bluetooth one would be inside the helmet, and thus difficult to get to. In case he has it integrated onto the helmet already, this wouldn't be a problem.

I use earplug headphones (Plugfones) because of the wind and engine noise. They are wired and in my helmet and neither have controls on them. There was recently a new pair released from Plugfones that are bluetooth but they are too expensive and you'd still need some sort of way to control them.

Omg... you're making this wayyyy harder then it needs. Get new wired head phones. Most have a mic/button when music is playing if you click it it pauses!! For hell sakes. Making problems up

You could use Physical Button Music Control from Xposed. With this you could customise all actions from headset button.

[APP][5.0+][Alpha] AA Passenger - Stream audio, control nav, show pics

AA Passenger
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger
What's this
With this app you can have two phones: one is the driver's phone, running Android Auto as usual.
Then you can have another one, e.g. handled by passenger. Passenger can then do 3 things:
play any music via car speakers (for now this requires root on passenger's device)
find some destination in Google Maps or another maps app and send it to Android Auto to navigate there
display pictures on the Android Auto screen (e.g. display how the hotel you're driving to looks like)
What's new
1.9-alpha9
AA Passenger: fixed Oreo crash
AA Passenger: fixed casting volume
1.9-alpha8
audio streaming, without root! (experimental)
audio streaming, without passenger app! (experimental)
works also with Hotspot active on the driver's device
AA Passenger now also available from Play Store
driver's app renamed to AA 2nd Seat
now compatible with Android 5.0 Lollipop
many bugs squashed
support for an NFC tag which launches or installs AA Passenger app
note that both driver's and passenger's apps must be updated to work together
Installation
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger/blob/master/README.md#installation
Screenshots
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Can you describe some more what exactly you can do with this and how?
Can we install this android auto sdk somehow and use this?
Is it possible to have android navigation eg navigon running to a smartphone to display in android auto screen?
Thanks,
Sent from my SM-T700 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Thanks for bringing additional functionality to AA!
I hope your SDK will bring more devs support for AA apps

sosimple said:
Can you describe some more what exactly you can do with this and how?
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You mean this app or SDK? I assume app.
With this app you can have two phones: one is the driver's phone, running Android Auto as usual.
Then you can have another one, e.g. handled by passenger. Passenger can then do 3 things:
find some destination in Google Maps or another maps app and send it to Android Auto to navigate there
display pictures on the Android Auto screen (e.g. display how the hotel they're driving to looks like so the driver would easily find it)
play any music via car speakers (for now this requires root on passenger's device)
sosimple said:
Can we install this android auto sdk somehow and use this?
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The SDK itself is for developers. It allows writing new Android Auto apps.
It rather won't help much in modifying existing apps to run on AA, as the logic behind AA apps is quite different than for normal apps.
The SDK is used like any other Android library.
I published an example demo project (linked in README) which shows how.
sosimple said:
Is it possible to have android navigation eg navigon running to a smartphone to display in android auto screen?
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It is somewhat possible, for example by creating a new Andoid Auto app which mirrors the screen of the phone on the car screen and then somehow circumvents the fact that Android Auto displays its own graphics on the phone screen.
It's also possible to modify an open-source navigation app (I'm experimenting with OsmAnd recently) and implement the Android Auto functionality.

Many thanks for description. Very good. I would pay for an app mirroring passenger screen to android auto screen.. (showing anything passengers screen shows, video, navigation, etc).
I think many others would like this, if anyone could implement it..
Sent from my SM-T700 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Any ideas for what other things than navigation, watching videos while stopped and dangerously distracting the driver while driving would this be useful?

Hi Martoreto
Thank you for your work and for the SDK. I tried to you your passenger app now. But I have to say I failed. I don't have rooted my phones yet, but you wrote to send (push) pictures should be possible right? Currently for me it is just possible to send a point in maps. Other than that if I try to send a picture with printscreen it shows "sent to Android Auto" but in Android Auto happens nothing than 1 second of black mirror. I think to push pictures no root is needed right?
Thanks for replay

Sissi1991 said:
Hi Martoreto
Thank you for your work and for the SDK. I tried to you your passenger app now. But I have to say I failed. I don't have rooted my phones yet, but you wrote to send (push) pictures should be possible right? Currently for me it is just possible to send a point in maps. Other than that if I try to send a picture with printscreen it shows "sent to Android Auto" but in Android Auto happens nothing than 1 second of black mirror. I think to push pictures no root is needed right?
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Hi @Sissi1991, thanks for trying the app.
I see good news that you established the wireless connection successfully, which was one of the major concerns I had with the app.
You're right, sending photos should work without root. I saw another report in the SDK thread, when the example app could behave similarly.
Just to make sure it's the same: when you take the screenshot, the screen on Android Auto becomes black for about a second, and then appears the AA home sceen?
Also, does the same happen when trying to send some other picture than a screenshot (like Gallery -> <some photo> -> Share -> Send to Android Auto)?
A note about rooting: it's required only on passenger's device (to make audio work).

@Sissi1991, feel free to try the new release:
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger/releases/tag/0.9-alpha2

Couldnt make it work also, same problem as Sissi (tested the previous 0.9 alpha 1 version only)
If sending a picture from gallery, it gives an error 'error resizing image'

Kill Me said:
Couldnt make it work also, same problem as Sissi (tested the previous 0.9 alpha 1 version only)
If sending a picture from gallery, it gives an error 'error resizing image'
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Ok, this looks like another issue and alpha 2 rather won't make any difference here.
This error shows on the passenger's device, right?
If possible, please PM me links to:
- Android bugreport captured after this error (Settings -> Developer options -> Take bug report)
- The picture which failed to send
Thanks for trying this out.

Thanks for developing such a great idea
Don't know what I am missing, I can't pair my two phones, even though they are connected through wifi direct, the app apparently can't see this connection :s
Enviado de meu Nexus 6P usando Tapatalk

@Sissi1991, @Kill Me, here's 0.9-alpha3 with "error resizing image" fixed. Give it a try!
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger/releases

bladerj said:
Don't know what I am missing, I can't pair my two phones, even though they are connected through wifi direct, the app apparently can't see this connection :s
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Yeah, I expected that Wifi Direct may have some connection issues. Nevertheless, please do this:
On driver's device open "AA Remote Settings" -> "Enable discovery".
On passenger's device open "AA Passenger"; if the setup wizard shows up, go to the "Pairing" page.
Wait 5 minutes.
On both devices, capture Android bug reports, upload them somewhere and PM me the links.

Thank you, ill give it a try.
Pairing through Wifi direct isnt indeed ideal and it takes a while to get connected, i get why using 'passenger' smartphone, but as the driver is driving the passenger could use the connected AA phone i think

@martoreto installed and tested new version! Works perfect. Keep on your good work!

Kill Me said:
but as the driver is driving the passenger could use the connected AA phone i think
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Just my 3 cents on this idea: some things can be done with this AA-connected phone, and this doesn't need any special app mostly.
I don't know how it is on other phones, but on my HTC One M8 I can open any app even when AA is connected using tricks like opening notifications drawer, going to Settings, Apps etc.
But even then Maps can't be open on both AA and the screen. It can't render at the same time to 2 destinations.
Then, fiddling with the cable can easily disconnect the nav.
That's why I go with the idea of using the passenger's phone, with his/her music library, maps favourites, bookmarks, whatever context etc., to make car travel a more "together" experience.

Let me announce a new major release: 1.9-alpha8
It has two new main features, namely:
Audio streaming without root, as rooting was rather a major blocker for
this feature to be useful.
Hotspot mode. Now the apps don't rely on Wi-fi Direct only (but it's still supported).
They will work also if the passenger's device is connected to the hotspot started
on the driver's device.
Full release notes:
audio streaming, without root! (experimental)
audio streaming, without passenger app! (experimental)
works also with Hotspot active on the driver's device
AA Passenger now also available from Play Store
driver's app renamed to AA 2nd Seat
now compatible with Android 5.0 Lollipop
many bugs squashed
support for an NFC tag which launches or installs AA Passenger app
Note that both driver's and passenger's apps must be updated to work together.
Enjoy!

1.9-alpha9
AA Passenger: fixed Oreo crash
AA Passenger: fixed casting volume

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Has anyone hacked the new AA APK to support phone mode?

Now that I stupidly upgraded to Android 12 on my Pixel, I can no longer use AA on my phone. For those who don't know, Google replaced AA's phone mode with Maps' "driving mode", which is a portrait-only mess of mostly-useless widgets. My car is never going to be able to have real Android Auto, so I'm stuck with phone mode, which has worked great for years.
Anyone know what would be involved in getting an older APK for run on Android 12? Or hacking the current version to show the phone mode UI again?

I have a similar problem. I've also upgraded to android 12 so I can't use Android auto anymore. After updating it did launch at first but I guess it auto updated to a version that disabled it on Android 12. So it seems that android 12 can run it just fine.
I'm perfectly willing to try out the new driving mode but I'm living in the Netherland which is not a supported county at the moment.
So google basically removed a feature I used every day without providing me with an alternative.
So I'm hoping there will be modified asks that will skip the android 12 check or some way to enable driving mode In unsupported countries. I don't mind driving in portret mode (I'll take anything at the moment), but would prefer landscape.

I found an interesting workaround in running the Headunit Reloaded app in Self Mode.
Seems to work fine on Android 12 .
It provides the same interface that build in Android Auto car units would have, so it differs a bit from the mounted phone version.
Search the forum for more information.
It's a paid app though.

I think many have this issue with AA car mode. I'm in the UK and have this issue also my poco F1 won't allow AA to backdate an install without root.
All I want is for the 0hone AA to show calendar entries and weather would be awesome. I loved the original AA but it's very dull on current phones.
Can anyone help or assist with a custom apk or know of one, that can be installed normally and work as it used too. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks

can you uninstall AA and reinstall with older version?

They have cardashdroid. I'm still on eleven and this morning after the last aa update I seen it looked like aa aiontweaker was not working anymore or at least I didn't have split screen. I'm on OnePlus 9 pro and haven't updated because I didn't want to lose some features.

ahhl said:
can you uninstall AA and reinstall with older version?
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Hi thanks for the question, no an unrooted Poco F1 won't let you uninstall or back date to an older app.
I've tried the AA for screens but it doesn't do calender entries, so I have to input all the time where I'm going and weather isn't there, although not critical, I did love this feature.
It's just a blank screen and even texts aren't read now, so it's killed the app for driving. Older cars in the UK don't have onboard screens and I'd rather use the phone for traffic updates than an bad sat nav.
Itnwasnonce a great app but not anymore.
So any chance of customising the app for these basic functions would be great.
Atb

Also, I don't think an older APK will help. It seems to be a server side switch. My Android Auto continued working right after upgrading to 12, but after a couple of hours, it quit working and redirects to the "no longer supported" screen. I think we'd need to spoof the Android version somehow, which is something I can't begin to guess at how to do.

That's a shame I was hoping that at least the calendar could be integrated, I noticed that in permissions calandar is disabled, other permissions are allowed. So I was assuming that if the permission could be enabled that calendar entries could appear if encoded to display etc. I didn't think it was all server based as why would they remove the permission?
Just a thought anyway.
Atb

Guys, what about running AA on Android 10? I was using aa for phone screens on my huawei p30 and it just stopped working without any update

Yep ggogle have basically stopped any alterations or updates on my phone's to AA. So it's a dead duck it water I can't even use Waze as an alternative!
If a modded AA could be created, with local weather and calender shown that would be great, and the option of Waze again.
Atb

pieteckhart said:
I found an interesting workaround in running the Headunit Reloaded app in Self Mode.
Seems to work fine on Android 12 .
It provides the same interface that build in Android Auto car units would have, so it differs a bit from the mounted phone version.
Search the forum for more information.
It's a paid app though.
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How are you running 'Self Mode' on an Android 12 phone? Mine doesn't seem to work when I try to start it
That being said the only workaround I've found is to use another phone (Android <12) as the master by turning ON hotspot, open HUR on the Android 12 phone and click the wifi icon

$ilent Warrior said:
How are you running 'Self Mode' on an Android 12 phone? Mine doesn't seem to work when I try to start it
That being said the only workaround I've found is to use another phone (Android <12) as the master by turning ON hotspot, open HUR on the Android 12 phone and click the wifi icon
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Maybe you still need to "Start head unit server" in the Android Auto app?
I only found out about it after taking the time to read the instructions
You first need to enter developer mode:
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After that you have a new menu option:

Follow. I really miss old AA for phone screens. New driving mode assistant is ****

What a despicable move by Google.
I upgraded S21 ultra from Android 11 to Android 12, worst mistake ever.
Apart from losing Android Auto for phone screens, I dont even have option for driving mode assistent.
What absolute bull****, taking a working product away, and making driving more unsafe.
No 3rd party solution comes near.
Would be so gratefull if someone found a workaround/hack to get AA for phone screens working again.

pieteckhart said:
Maybe you still need to "Start head unit server" in the Android Auto app?
I only found out about it after taking the time to read the instructions
You first need to enter developer mode:
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After that you have a new menu option:
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I did that, I always turn ON 'Headunit Server' , it's one of the pre-requisites to make HUR work

I have no idea then, #WorksOnMyDevice

So if goovle are crippling AA for phone users, are there any working good alternatives out there as I haven't found a simple talk to sat Nav linked to waze or Google maps, with text and voice answering hands free.
Most of the apps are crippled by Google so there's nothing out there that seems to give a decent stab at a navigation solution with calls and text response facility.
Any advice on this would be appreciated
Atb

There is no good alternative. There are a couple of apps like Automate or whatever it is called now, but they are truly terrible compared to AA. Google have been updating "driving mode" over the last six months, but true to form they have only made it worse. This week it removed the one icon I had to use to launch the music player and replaced it with SIX icons to random podcasts I have never heard of, about subjects I have no interest in.
Every single day when I get in my car, I hate Google more.

pgunning1 said:
So if goovle are crippling AA for phone users, are there any working good alternatives out there as I haven't found a simple talk to sat Nav linked to waze or Google maps, with text and voice answering hands free.
Most of the apps are crippled by Google so there's nothing out there that seems to give a decent stab at a navigation solution with calls and text response facility.
Any advice on this would be appreciated
Atb
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Try Roav Viva (radio connection) or Alexa (bluetooth/aux/USB connection) car adapters, they plug into the 12-volt accessory plugs and have always on microphones and wind canceling software.