AA Passenger
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger
What's this
With this app you can have two phones: one is the driver's phone, running Android Auto as usual.
Then you can have another one, e.g. handled by passenger. Passenger can then do 3 things:
play any music via car speakers (for now this requires root on passenger's device)
find some destination in Google Maps or another maps app and send it to Android Auto to navigate there
display pictures on the Android Auto screen (e.g. display how the hotel you're driving to looks like)
What's new
1.9-alpha9
AA Passenger: fixed Oreo crash
AA Passenger: fixed casting volume
1.9-alpha8
audio streaming, without root! (experimental)
audio streaming, without passenger app! (experimental)
works also with Hotspot active on the driver's device
AA Passenger now also available from Play Store
driver's app renamed to AA 2nd Seat
now compatible with Android 5.0 Lollipop
many bugs squashed
support for an NFC tag which launches or installs AA Passenger app
note that both driver's and passenger's apps must be updated to work together
Installation
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger/blob/master/README.md#installation
Screenshots
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Can you describe some more what exactly you can do with this and how?
Can we install this android auto sdk somehow and use this?
Is it possible to have android navigation eg navigon running to a smartphone to display in android auto screen?
Thanks,
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Thanks for bringing additional functionality to AA!
I hope your SDK will bring more devs support for AA apps
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Can you describe some more what exactly you can do with this and how?
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You mean this app or SDK? I assume app.
With this app you can have two phones: one is the driver's phone, running Android Auto as usual.
Then you can have another one, e.g. handled by passenger. Passenger can then do 3 things:
find some destination in Google Maps or another maps app and send it to Android Auto to navigate there
display pictures on the Android Auto screen (e.g. display how the hotel they're driving to looks like so the driver would easily find it)
play any music via car speakers (for now this requires root on passenger's device)
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Can we install this android auto sdk somehow and use this?
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The SDK itself is for developers. It allows writing new Android Auto apps.
It rather won't help much in modifying existing apps to run on AA, as the logic behind AA apps is quite different than for normal apps.
The SDK is used like any other Android library.
I published an example demo project (linked in README) which shows how.
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Is it possible to have android navigation eg navigon running to a smartphone to display in android auto screen?
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It is somewhat possible, for example by creating a new Andoid Auto app which mirrors the screen of the phone on the car screen and then somehow circumvents the fact that Android Auto displays its own graphics on the phone screen.
It's also possible to modify an open-source navigation app (I'm experimenting with OsmAnd recently) and implement the Android Auto functionality.
Many thanks for description. Very good. I would pay for an app mirroring passenger screen to android auto screen.. (showing anything passengers screen shows, video, navigation, etc).
I think many others would like this, if anyone could implement it..
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Any ideas for what other things than navigation, watching videos while stopped and dangerously distracting the driver while driving would this be useful?
Hi Martoreto
Thank you for your work and for the SDK. I tried to you your passenger app now. But I have to say I failed. I don't have rooted my phones yet, but you wrote to send (push) pictures should be possible right? Currently for me it is just possible to send a point in maps. Other than that if I try to send a picture with printscreen it shows "sent to Android Auto" but in Android Auto happens nothing than 1 second of black mirror. I think to push pictures no root is needed right?
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Sissi1991 said:
Hi Martoreto
Thank you for your work and for the SDK. I tried to you your passenger app now. But I have to say I failed. I don't have rooted my phones yet, but you wrote to send (push) pictures should be possible right? Currently for me it is just possible to send a point in maps. Other than that if I try to send a picture with printscreen it shows "sent to Android Auto" but in Android Auto happens nothing than 1 second of black mirror. I think to push pictures no root is needed right?
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Hi @Sissi1991, thanks for trying the app.
I see good news that you established the wireless connection successfully, which was one of the major concerns I had with the app.
You're right, sending photos should work without root. I saw another report in the SDK thread, when the example app could behave similarly.
Just to make sure it's the same: when you take the screenshot, the screen on Android Auto becomes black for about a second, and then appears the AA home sceen?
Also, does the same happen when trying to send some other picture than a screenshot (like Gallery -> <some photo> -> Share -> Send to Android Auto)?
A note about rooting: it's required only on passenger's device (to make audio work).
@Sissi1991, feel free to try the new release:
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger/releases/tag/0.9-alpha2
Couldnt make it work also, same problem as Sissi (tested the previous 0.9 alpha 1 version only)
If sending a picture from gallery, it gives an error 'error resizing image'
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Couldnt make it work also, same problem as Sissi (tested the previous 0.9 alpha 1 version only)
If sending a picture from gallery, it gives an error 'error resizing image'
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Ok, this looks like another issue and alpha 2 rather won't make any difference here.
This error shows on the passenger's device, right?
If possible, please PM me links to:
- Android bugreport captured after this error (Settings -> Developer options -> Take bug report)
- The picture which failed to send
Thanks for trying this out.
Thanks for developing such a great idea
Don't know what I am missing, I can't pair my two phones, even though they are connected through wifi direct, the app apparently can't see this connection :s
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@Sissi1991, @Kill Me, here's 0.9-alpha3 with "error resizing image" fixed. Give it a try!
https://github.com/martoreto/aapassenger/releases
bladerj said:
Don't know what I am missing, I can't pair my two phones, even though they are connected through wifi direct, the app apparently can't see this connection :s
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Yeah, I expected that Wifi Direct may have some connection issues. Nevertheless, please do this:
On driver's device open "AA Remote Settings" -> "Enable discovery".
On passenger's device open "AA Passenger"; if the setup wizard shows up, go to the "Pairing" page.
Wait 5 minutes.
On both devices, capture Android bug reports, upload them somewhere and PM me the links.
Thank you, ill give it a try.
Pairing through Wifi direct isnt indeed ideal and it takes a while to get connected, i get why using 'passenger' smartphone, but as the driver is driving the passenger could use the connected AA phone i think
@martoreto installed and tested new version! Works perfect. Keep on your good work!
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but as the driver is driving the passenger could use the connected AA phone i think
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Just my 3 cents on this idea: some things can be done with this AA-connected phone, and this doesn't need any special app mostly.
I don't know how it is on other phones, but on my HTC One M8 I can open any app even when AA is connected using tricks like opening notifications drawer, going to Settings, Apps etc.
But even then Maps can't be open on both AA and the screen. It can't render at the same time to 2 destinations.
Then, fiddling with the cable can easily disconnect the nav.
That's why I go with the idea of using the passenger's phone, with his/her music library, maps favourites, bookmarks, whatever context etc., to make car travel a more "together" experience.
Let me announce a new major release: 1.9-alpha8
It has two new main features, namely:
Audio streaming without root, as rooting was rather a major blocker for
this feature to be useful.
Hotspot mode. Now the apps don't rely on Wi-fi Direct only (but it's still supported).
They will work also if the passenger's device is connected to the hotspot started
on the driver's device.
Full release notes:
audio streaming, without root! (experimental)
audio streaming, without passenger app! (experimental)
works also with Hotspot active on the driver's device
AA Passenger now also available from Play Store
driver's app renamed to AA 2nd Seat
now compatible with Android 5.0 Lollipop
many bugs squashed
support for an NFC tag which launches or installs AA Passenger app
Note that both driver's and passenger's apps must be updated to work together.
Enjoy!
1.9-alpha9
AA Passenger: fixed Oreo crash
AA Passenger: fixed casting volume
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The current stable CyanogenMod version (10.1.2-mako) has working support for Bluetooth MAP (Message Access Profile).
This lets my car (Ford Focus with basic SYNC) read my text messages to me. Once paired, the phone will prompt for permission to let the car access MAP on your phone, just like it does for downloading the phonebook.
If it doesn't seem to be working, you may need to enable MAP on your car.
Just wanted to get the word out that this is possible, and that it works for me.
DouglasK said:
The current stable CyanogenMod version (10.1.2-mako) has working support for Bluetooth MAP (Message Access Profile).
This lets my car (Ford Focus with basic SYNC) read my text messages to me. Once paired, the phone will prompt for permission to let the car access MAP on your phone, just like it does for downloading the phonebook.
If it doesn't seem to be working, you may need to enable MAP on your car.
Just wanted to get the word out that this is possible, and that it works for me.
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I am having extremely spotty reliability with MAP over BT on my 2014 Subaru Forester -- the system allows message transfer/reading of messages, but every time I attempt to download them it immediately fails, and no request to access MAP appears on the phone but yet, sometimes messages suddenly appear (Mostly work e-mails through the stock email.apk app) and never work again.
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I am having extremely spotty reliability with MAP over BT on my 2014 Subaru Forester -- the system allows message transfer/reading of messages, but every time I attempt to download them it immediately fails, and no request to access MAP appears on the phone but yet, sometimes messages suddenly appear (Mostly work e-mails through the stock email.apk app) and never work again.
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I'm no expert in this area, but which rom / version are you running? When I tried CyanogenMod 10.1.0, I didn't get the prompts and it rarely worked. My car just reads the latest message... it doesn't have a fancy display and as such only supports basic text reading and a few pre-made replies... it's like this:
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It's good to know that Subaru supports the MAP profile.
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I'm no expert in this area, but which rom / version are you running? When I tried CyanogenMod 10.1.0, I didn't get the prompts and it rarely worked. My car just reads the latest message... it doesn't have a fancy display and as such only supports basic text reading and a few pre-made replies... it's like this:
It's good to know that Subaru supports the MAP profile.
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CM 10.1.1 (right now I'm on the 4.3 leak, but I still have no luck).
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CM 10.1.1 (right now I'm on the 4.3 leak, but I still have no luck).
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*nod* do a backup, restore 10.1.1 and give 10.1.2 a shot, being a point release you shouldn't need to wipe data if you use the built in Cyanogen Mod update system under Settings, About Phone, CyanogenMod Updates.
Also, check for software updates for the car. Mine has had a couple new SYNC firmware updates since I got it in 2011.
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*nod* do a backup, restore 10.1.1 and give 10.1.2 a shot, being a point release you shouldn't need to wipe data if you use the built in Cyanogen Mod update system under Settings, About Phone, CyanogenMod Updates.
Also, check for software updates for the car. Mine has had a couple new SYNC firmware updates since I got it in 2011.
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I follow all of the commits for CM nightlies and none of them (aside from MAP being introduced initially) seem to affect MAP.
I have to check for updates for the nav unit anyway, but I don't think there are any.
algorhythm said:
I follow all of the commits for CM nightlies and none of them (aside from MAP being introduced initially) seem to affect MAP.
I have to check for updates for the nav unit anyway, but I don't think there are any.
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Gotcha... well, I wish all the best for you on it. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
DouglasK said:
Gotcha... well, I wish all the best for you on it. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
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Try to delete your phone from the sync system and repair. Only then will it re-check what capabilities your phone has.
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Well, I just spend my break removing and re-adding my phone to my 2010 ford edge and still have no text messaging functionality on 10.1.2. Boo.
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bahnburner said:
Try to delete your phone from the sync system and repair. Only then will it re-check what capabilities your phone has.
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Well, I just spend my break removing and re-adding my phone to my 2010 ford edge and still have no text messaging functionality on 10.1.2. Boo.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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I think it also depends on the version of Sync your car has. I know that the Sync version available for my 2011 Mustang does not support MAP but the Sync version in the 2012's does support it. There is no Sync software update available for my car but there may be one for yours.
Do you guys know what the BT map addon is baked into? Is it an app, a kernel module, built into the framework? I'd love to be able to add this to any nexus 4 rom (including stock)
I got my UK Spec 2013 Ford Focus with Sync about a week a go.
I was unable to use the text messaging features on stock so I installed Cyanogen mod last night.
The car now lets me go in to the Text Messages section but notifications for new messages currently don't appear. The only way I have gotten any messages to appear is to go in to More > Download Unread Messages.
Obviously the above is kind of pointless if I have to go through the menus to issue the download. Is there something I need to enable, either in the car or on my phone? I've been through all the menus on the car and can't find any reference to the MAP profile.
Any ideas would be appreciated
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I am having extremely spotty reliability with MAP over BT on my 2014 Subaru Forester -- the system allows message transfer/reading of messages, but every time I attempt to download them it immediately fails, and no request to access MAP appears on the phone but yet, sometimes messages suddenly appear (Mostly work e-mails through the stock email.apk app) and never work again.
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It might be a Subaru thing. I've got a 2013 BRZ and the headunit (6" navigation) doesn't pull any texts from my N4 (CM10.2 nightlies).
Well my girlfriend got her iPhone to push messages to the car. She activated "Notifications" under her bluetooth settings for Sync. I could't find anything similar under Cyanogenmod. Does anyone know of such a setting?
Stories said:
It might be a Subaru thing. I've got a 2013 BRZ and the headunit (6" navigation) doesn't pull any texts from my N4 (CM10.2 nightlies).
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Yeah who knows .. how's the BRZ?
AdamLC said:
Well my girlfriend got her iPhone to push messages to the car. She activated "Notifications" under her bluetooth settings for Sync. I could't find anything similar under Cyanogenmod. Does anyone know of such a setting?
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I get audio and visual notification of messages on my focus' my ford touch, I didn't change any settings to either device.
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I get audio and visual notification of messages on my focus' my ford touch, I didn't change any settings to either device.
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Running CM? 10.1xx? or other?
CM 10.2 nightlies
Any PC application or software that works with MAP?
I'd like to send and receive messages from my PC without using Play Store apps.
Hi,
We worked on this project for months and since we're almost ready (very few days left) to launch the first beta on the PlayStore I think that it's time to share some info around the web and not only on our community.
ACUI is a set of four apps: ACUI Key&Touch, ACUI Touch (and ACUI Touch with material) and ACUI Base (which include three different themes), designed to best improve your Android experience in your car.
GOOGLE PLAYSTORE LINK
Finally we have a little teaser for ACUI A2DP feature.
Please remember that in order to listen the audio you will need of a little piece of hardware we will release later this year (a preorder sale will be open soon).
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Together with these UI app we will release also two very simple and easy apps that will allow you to share your GPS connection from your phone to another android device.
But ACUI is not just software. We will open a preorder sale on IndieGoGo for a couple of piece of hardware we're working on:
- a bluetooth HID controller for standard 4-Wire resistive touchscreen (price around 80$)
- a custom controller (price around 50$)
Every single $ for both the IndieGoGo campaign and the PlayStore sales will be used to produce and keep as low as possible the price of these two product, as we previously said on our Google+ Community we really want to provide you the best experience for the lowest price.
Here's the links to our site and to our Google+ Community
http://www.acuiautomotive.com
http://plus.google.com/communities/112087817837785037612
We have a list for people who are interested in a full list of feature available now for the first release of ACUI. Note that our A2DP feature will be available as soon as possible (the base code is almost ready).
- Full AppDrawer
- Six shortcut for third party app in the main screen (this feature is not available in ACUI Key&Touch)
- Send eMail
- Send SMS
- Read Inbox SMS
- Read Sent SMS
- Make a Call
- Check last outgoing call
- Check last received call
- Check last missed call
- Internet browser (will open an external app**)
- Music player
- Control and get info from GooglePlayMusic
- Play Video (will open an external app**)
- Image Gallery (will open an external app**)
- Navigation (will open an external app)
- Sygic, Waze, GoogleMaps, TomTom integration
- 5 Day weather info
- Lap timer
- 0-100Km/h (0-60MPH)
- Toggle Bluetooth
- Get list of paired devices (In the future releases you will be able to search for new devices, connect to device, disconnect to device and everything you are able to do with the standard bluetooth settings)
- Toggle Wi-Fi
- Open Android Wi-Fi Settings
- Backlight Settings (Max, Min, -/+)
** This feature will open an external app but we will develop and internal solution in the future releases
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I see the video...it is amazing...can't wait to use it on my S150 Android 2 DIN car Head Unit replacing the orrible chinese UI!!!!
royalhawk2002 said:
I see the video...it is amazing...can't wait to use it on my S150 Android 2 DIN car Head Unit replacing the orrible chinese UI!!!!
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The app has been uploaded on the playstore I will post as soon as everything will be available.
ITA:
Le app sono state caricate sul playstore, posterò qua appena saranno disponibili per il download.
Neverbe said:
The app has been uploaded on the playstore I will post as soon as everything will be available.
ITA:
Le app sono state caricate sul playstore, posterò qua appena saranno disponibili per il download.
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I see the Apps on the Market, but it seem are not compatible with my S150 Android 4.03 Headunit....:crying:
royalhawk2002 said:
I see the Apps on the Market, but it seem are not compatible with my S150 Android 4.03 Headunit....:crying:
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We're solving the problem.
Please check out our Google+ Community for "live" update.
ACUI is now available on the PlayStore!!!
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=ACUI&c=apps&price=2
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We're solving the problem.
Please check out our Google+ Community for "live" update.
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Hello, any chance to install it on S150?? it is still incompatible on Playstore. And what version should i download? normal one or tablet one?
junior2001 said:
Hello, any chance to install it on S150?? it is still incompatible on Playstore. And what version should i download? normal one or tablet one?
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Same issue for me.....
For non-phone devices the Tablet version will be fit your needs.
I tested it on a Samsung Galaxy Trend which have a 1Ghz SingleCore CPU and 512Mb of RAM so it should also work on the S150.
Will it work on the S150 Android 2.3 version?
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Will it work on the S150 Android 2.3 version?
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I'm so sorry but ACUi will only work on 4.0.3+.
Sorry, double post.
Just a little news.
We have almost done with the development of both ACUI A2DP feature (which will be available for every version of ACUI) and ACUI A2DP hardware. You will be able to read sms, make calls, answer call, send sms and a lot more!
hi, i purchase the app, i have a car android 4.0.3 S150 but not install in google play, system not compatible message. any idea?
The A2DP code is ready and working like a charm. We will record a video really soon.
The first proto of our bluetooth adapter is ready too. There was some noise but we managed to reduce it at 90%, I think that we will manage to completely reduce it. To use this module you will only need of just one aux input in your car. The module will be connected to the aux input. The tablet with ACUI will be connected to the module via AUX cable and the phone will be connected to both the bluetooth module and to the tablet with ACUI installed. The module will also allow you to have one extra AUX input in this way you won't have to unplug the module everytime you want to plug another MP3 player or whatever you want.
After that you WON'T need to touch your phone anymore. You will be able to answer/reject a call, access out/in/missed calls, send and read SMS (using both android keyboard and your voice), access to phone contact list, create a new contact and listen to the music stored in the phone.
New feature will be added in the future.
Please note that this feature will be absolutely FREE if you have ACUI Key&Touch, ACUI Material or ACUI Touch.
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Will it work on the S150 Android 2.3 version?
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Sorry but it will only work on 4.0.3+ devices
Theres really no app out there that At least I found could replace HTC Car and it seems you guys have done it! Kudos to you, whe this comes out I think I will definitely be down to buy it.
We have just finished with YouTube, MxPlayer and PowerAmp integration we really hope to upload a new update asap.
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Theres really no app out there that At least I found could replace HTC Car and it seems you guys have done it! Kudos to you, whe this comes out I think I will definitely be down to buy it.
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Glad you like what we're doing
Here's ACUI's PowerAmp integration
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This is what will be shipped with the next version of ACUI Key&Touch
Dacia, Renault car logos
MXPlayer integration
YouTube integration
PowerAmp integration
A new version of ACUI Key&Touch is now available in the store. This new version will feature:
Dacia, Renault car logos
MXPlayer integration
YouTube integration
PowerAmp integration
Hi Guys!
We've great news for you.
As we previously said we're preparing ACUI Key&Touch to work with hardware buttons but we also:
- Deeply changed the way MeteoInfo are gathered by ACUI. We made the code far lighter but we also add a couple of feature like home city, destination city meteo and meteo update when GPS location change.
- Improved YouTube integration (recording a video now)
New SONY true Android Auto + Apple CarPlay now available for purchase:
Sony XAV-AX100 6.4" Media Receiver with Bluetooth $499.99
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=Sony+xavax100
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i hope someone gets this and posts a review
I bought this and have been using it since Monday. I'm really impressed with it so far. The phone has to be plugged in via USB to take advantage of AA. I have some minor gripes, but they're mostly software cosmetics (can't swipe away notifications in AA, the tuner song text scrolling is annoying, etc). I'd be happy to answer any questions.
how bout some pics of it installed. How long does it take too boot once your turn on your vehicle? Any issues connecting to AA?
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Takes ~12 seconds to boot up. No issues connecting AA. Plug your phone into the USB, and a AA icon appears on the home screen. Once you launch into it, its very similar to AA app.
that looks pretty good
Installed it this past weekend along with a Rydeen Duo rear-camera. Thoughts:
Negatives:
The outer matte finish scratches easily. Finger oil+rubbing doesn't remove them, I'll try something more aggressive next.
The Android Auto icon shows up in the right hand upper corner and looks like a wonky after-thought.
Bluetooth phone calls sound terrible. The worse of any deck I've had (phone = Google Pixel).
[*] Audio sounds dull. I've played with the EQ. Turns out I had not wired in my stock amplifier. Sounds better now.
The forward and backward physical buttons are upside down. Forward should be at the bottom like every deck ever.
Other than the backgrounds the display theme cannot be modified.
You cannot turn off the reverse guidelines. You will have bars whether you like them or not.
The dimmer feed/wire does not control the Home/volume/next/back buttons. They stay a uniform brightness.
It does not support speed-connected volume control. I have the wire, no feed exists. Sigh.
It only has one USB port. This matters when you use Apple Carplay or Android Auto and don't want to plug it in. Sometimes maybe you want your USB for storage?
It only supports one camera. You'll have to rig it to make it support side, or front cameras.
Users cannot modify the stock EQ pre-sets, you must create your own, and are only allocated one personal EQ setting. Enjoy!
Android Auto is disappointing. I researched poorly before taking the plunge: low resolution, Waze still doesn't work, Spotify is limited and messaging/phone is garbage. Google maps looks like I've slathered Vaseline all over the screen. Blurry & blech.
Positives:
Despite the highly reflective screen, it is visible even with the sun directly on it from behind (at least with 30% tint).
It has a physical volume dial (This is important as I'm stuck in 2003 and I don't have steering wheel controls).
The device itself almost looks OEM.
The screen is very responsive to touch. While it is two-layer, touches are instant and responsive.
It will show the backup camera before it has fully booted.
The user interface does not look like a website from 1995.
I'm really reaching here, but it has six phone number presets like the stock radio in my past three cars. Of course, they're small, so if one of the presets is longer than 16 characters, prepare for the name to be cut off.
It was slightly cheaper than the Pioneer with AppRadio+Unchained that I intended to buy. Of course, I can't use any of the apps I intended, so maybe not cheaper.
While the screen is double-DIN, the actual device is not. You can smuggle about a kilo of sweet, delicious black tar heroin across the border in the remaining space under it.
First things first, thanks for taking the time to write all this: there's little info on this headunit on the net May I ask a questione or two? o
1) I had terrible experiences with my old XAV 650BT... It would not retrieve the phonebook contacts correctly from the phone via bluetooth. Would you kindly tell me if, when connecting a phone (no mirrorlink nor android auto, bluetooth only) it:
- takes ages to retrieve the contacts when pressing the "phonebook" icon
- show the correctly or all scrambled? (my all 650BT showed them as SurnameName, whithout whitespace and whitout ability to swap name and surname.. Like SmithJon...)
- retrieves the phonebook everytime?
2) Can you listen to tuner while using android auto ?
3) Do you have an ipod..? (I know, darkside o Does the Xav display ipod cover art when connecting an ipod?
4) Does the non dimmable buttons blind you at night? :|
thanks for your honest review. I was considering this, but I think i'll stick with my Joying. and that heroin line cracked me up
I was also considering it. My Xtrons HU display backlight just died, but I think I'll see if I can fix it, or go back to stock until there is something worth upgrading to.
1) Thankfully, they appear to have fixed the phone-book bugs you've mentioned as I have not noticed them. On the other hand, when using Android Auto (AA), AA takes over the phone functionality from the headunit. At the moment I prefer the headunit's phonebook over AA.
2) Yes, the radio tuner continues working while in Android Audio. If you decide to play something in Android Auto, pressing play (in Spotify for instance) stops the tuner automatically.
3) Sorry, I do not have an iPod. There is not a 'blank' spot for an album image on the UI for music playback, so unless it changes the UI or shows it in the background I'd suspect it does not. Unknown though.
4) The non-dimmable buttons are not blinding. However, I tend to keep my dimmer fairly low, and all the OEM lights are red. Sony's are bright white and thus a little distracting but not in a deeply annoying way.
ilgaspa said:
First things first, thanks for taking the time to write all this: there's little info on this headunit on the net May I ask a questione or two? o
1) I had terrible experiences with my old XAV 650BT... It would not retrieve the phonebook contacts correctly from the phone via bluetooth. Would you kindly tell me if, when connecting a phone (no mirrorlink nor android auto, bluetooth only) it:
- takes ages to retrieve the contacts when pressing the "phonebook" icon
- show the correctly or all scrambled? (my all 650BT showed them as SurnameName, whithout whitespace and whitout ability to swap name and surname.. Like SmithJon...)
- retrieves the phonebook everytime?
2) Can you listen to tuner while using android auto ?
3) Do you have an ipod..? (I know, darkside o Does the Xav display ipod cover art when connecting an ipod?
4) Does the non dimmable buttons blind you at night? :|
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Thanks! Even with the problems you mentioned this HU seems to be the best if someone needs Android Auto and Carplay at a good price. Kenwoods are good but costs too much and sadly I had a very bad experience with a Pioneer Da120.. so that brand is out of the game for me.
Album artwork should work when playing from usb, no clue on how, but the specs say so :|
Thanks
If I may ask one last thing.. does the phonebook support contacts with multiple (home/mobile) numbers when not using android auto?
ilgaspa said:
<snip>Album artwork should work when playing from usb, no clue on how, but the specs say so :|
<snip>If I may ask one last thing.. does the phonebook support contacts with multiple (home/mobile) numbers when not using android auto?
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Correct, after playing around in the settings, I found an option to turn on album artwork. It did not change the screen for me as I strip out all my MP3 art (because my last device displayed them in an annoying way).
The phone-book does support multiple number contacts.
Thanks again
I can't understand why there's so little info about this unit.. I'm currently deciding between this and the Kenwood 9716.. and with the Sony horrid user guide finding info is hard as hell :| I'm still trying to understand the interface for brosing folders and hoping there's a way to browse by choosing a letter or a quick scroll bar.
I would still be using my Pioneer DA120 had it not died all of a sudden. The kenwood would be good if not for the HUGE font used around interface (trust me.. you can't understand what I mean with huge unless you see it yourself, I't something like 30pt Arial Black!)
This to say.. thanks for the help and infos ^^
rubbercow said:
Correct, after playing around in the settings, I found an option to turn on album artwork. It did not change the screen for me as I strip out all my MP3 art (because my last device displayed them in an annoying way).
The phone-book does support multiple number contacts.
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May I ask one last thing..?
Does android auto launch automatically when you connect the phone (like on pioneer headunits) or you have to manually select it ?
ilgaspa said:
<snip> I'm still trying to understand the interface for brosing folders and hoping there's a way to browse by choosing a letter or a quick scroll bar.
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I'm not very impressed with the browsing method on the Sony. It has two folder icons, one for up, and one for back. It may have a screen for specifically selecting folders but I haven't tried it yet. What I really don't like is that when you have three folders, and you select shuffle, it appears to shuffle across all three. I haven't found a way to turn that silliness off yet.
ilgaspa said:
<snip>Does android auto launch automatically when you connect the phone (like on pioneer headunits) or you have to manually select it ?
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Android Auto has a setting within it to auto-launch on certain triggers such as whenever the Bluetooth in your car is connected. The end result is that it is automatic.
rubbercow said:
It may have a screen for specifically selecting folders but I haven't tried it yet.
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There should be a little playlist looking button on top left of the screeen, this should take you to the folder select scren
Does it work with all Android devices or only the list mentioned in the sony site.
My friend has a oneplus 2 but that does not work, only bluetooth audio works. When I tried connecting it to the head unit using the original cable, it spat out a message saying USB device not recognised.
I am planning to buy a Google Pixel but am worried it might not work on this device esp since iPhone 7(which works fine by the way) is mentioned but no Google Pixel.
I would be grateful for any help.
It should definitely work with a Pixel device.
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I've had this deck for at least a month in my 2014 challenger and i love it. It really woke up the speakers since I only have the base model. I've tried to use a USB hub so I could have a thumb drive and connect via Bluetooth, I have a One Plus 3t. so far the deck will occasionally say it doesn't support a USB hub but it does... kinda acts funny when i do this. when I connect my phone via USB and it starts android auto then the thumb drive is disabled.
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AnyAutoAudio
So I was tired of not being able to use the audio apps I normally use in Auto and decided to try and do something about it. This app is the result :fingers-crossed:
How does it work?
By using the notification listener permission, the app is able to access the media session of any audio app that is running. This is then passed to Android Auto, which makes it possible to control as any normal Auto app. This also means that it is necessary to run the audio app(s) first before running Auto.
I have several ideas for future features, but would like some feedback first and get rid of bugs. Take it for a spin!
Howto:
- Setup AnyAutoAudio from the app
- Open and run music app(s)
- Run Android Auto from phone or dashboard
Latest progress update & ideas for the future:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72587291&postcount=67
Download:
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/dk.jonske.AnyAutoAudio
Install AnyAutoAudio directly from apk:
If downloading the APK directly you need to allow unknown sources in Auto,
- In the Android Auto app, tap the Hamburger menu.
- Tap About.
- Tap About Android Auto header 10 times, until a toast appears thar says "Developer mode enabled". Now you can access developer mode by selecting the overflow menu dots on the top right of the handheld screen.
- Select Developer settings from the overflow menu and check unknown sources.
Source: https://developer.android.com/training/auto/testing/index.html#phone
Release notes
0.1.0
- Startup tutorial
- new settings interface
- FAQ
- Feedback
- Analytics
- Pinned apps (browsing)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73426860&postcount=108
0.0.4
- No more need for app list! Just run the music apps and open Auto.
- Issue with controls not responding should be fixed
- Lots of bug fixes
0.0.3
- Apps already with Auto implementation is filtered out
- Queue implementation
- If audio app is destroyed, just pause
- Smaller app size
- Error include audio app name
0.0.2
- System apps now allowed in app selection.
- Basic voice control implementation. So far only "play music" seems to work ("pause", "play" etc. fails on Google's side)
0.0.1
- First alpha release
- Basic control and metadata
Hi,
Tested and working with "Google Play Books". :good:
I suggest to try to support the FM Radio App.
Perhaps, you feel I'm fool but I like to check one DAB Radio App running in my phone... my car doesn't have DAB radio.
manos78 said:
Hi,
Tested and working with "Google Play Books". :good:
I suggest to try to support the FM Radio App.
Perhaps, you feel I'm fool but I like to check one DAB Radio App running in my phone... my car doesn't have DAB radio.
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Great to hear it works!
Do you have a link for the app? It should work as long as the app is playing audio the standard way in android, so I'll have a look
jvvpc said:
Do you have a link for the app? It should work as long as the app is playing audio the standard way in android, so I'll have a look
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For the RADIO (FM) it's the stock FM App... Try it in your phone, it isn't detected in the list of Audio Apps.
Regarding the DAB App it's this:
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ex.dabplayer
Please, continue improving this great App!
For example, your App can send button events to the controlled App? Back, Play/Stop, Next...
This is the app:
http://androidstereo.mobile.eu.org/default-apps/2.7.4/com.tw.radio_78cc.apk
manos78 said:
For the RADIO (FM) it's the stock FM App... Try it in your phone, it isn't detected in the list of Audio Apps.
Regarding the DAB App it's this:
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ex.dabplayer
Please, continue improving this great App!
For example, your App can send button events to the controlled App? Back, Play/Stop, Next...
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Ahh, the list is filtering out system apps. I will include them in the next update
There shouldn't be any problems with the DAB app. Have you tried it?
Yes, it will handle all button events like play, pause, next etc. I will look into if it can take special buttons some apps use
Jusrt tested with local files and vlc and this works well. Its a Great idea.. Ill be a really happy camper if u can get it to pull the audio from firefox and chrome.
Youtube/netflix/hulu etc could all be nice too. But the browsers obviously would be top priority cuz then u could do anything (live tv news etc etc) in my opinion.
Regardless..Great job and idea!
keep at it. I Will report back after more experience with it.
jvvpc said:
Ahh, the list is filtering out system apps. I will include them in the next update
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Great! Waiting for it! :fingers-crossed:
jvvpc said:
There shouldn't be any problems with the DAB app. Have you tried it?
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No. It's a wish for the future... if your tool works, then I'll purchase the dongle.
jvvpc said:
Yes, it will handle all button events like play, pause, next etc. I will look into if it can take special buttons some apps use
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It will be interesenting if you introduce some additional interaction with the audio app. :good:
Version 0.0.2 is now released, with system apps included and basic voice control.
Mac31284 said:
Jusrt tested with local files and vlc and this works well. Its a Great idea.. Ill be a really happy camper if u can get it to pull the audio from firefox and chrome.
Youtube/netflix/hulu etc could all be nice too. But the browsers obviously would be top priority cuz then u could do anything (live tv news etc etc) in my opinion.
Regardless..Great job and idea!
keep at it. I Will report back after more experience with it.
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As i have now included system apps Chrome works. Just tested it with a radio website The video apps wont run i the background so we cant use Android Auto at the same time, this is a Android limitation. I have read reports that some find it possible to open Youtube in Firefox though?
manos78 said:
Great! Waiting for it! :fingers-crossed:
No. It's a wish for the future... if your tool works, then I'll purchase the dongle.
It will be interesenting if you introduce some additional interaction with the audio app. :good:
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See if the Radio FM app works now
jvvpc said:
Version 0.0.2 is now released, with system apps included and basic voice control.
See if the Radio FM app works now
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Installed! Thank you!
Results:
- App FM don't show in the list. :crying:
- Voice control: Please, explain how to use it.
- No bugs detected. :good:
Regards.
manos78 said:
Installed! Thank you!
Results:
- App FM don't show in the list. :crying:
- Voice control: Please, explain how to use it.
- No bugs detected. :good:
Regards.
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If a app dosent show up, it is because it is not made in the standard way Android handles media. Maybe try a different FM app from the Play store? Just find one that has a notification widget, then it should work. I dont have fm in my phone so cant test it myself
For the voice control, only "play music" seems to work ("pause", "play" etc. fails on Google's side). This is a requirement from Google, so couldnt update the app without including this, but will expand it furter like "Play Chrome on AnyAutoAudio".
jvvpc said:
If a app dosent show up, it is because it is not made in the standard way Android handles media. Maybe try a different FM app from the Play store? Just find one that has a notification widget, then it should work. I dont have fm in my phone so cant test it myself
For the voice control, only "play music" seems to work ("pause", "play" etc. fails on Google's side). This is a requirement from Google, so couldnt update the app without including this, but will expand it furter like "Play Chrome on AnyAutoAudio".
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For most android head units you can not use a different FM radio app as far as i'm aware. The DAB app does not show up either which is a big shame, oh well.
jvvpc said:
If a app dosent show up, it is because it is not made in the standard way Android handles media. Maybe try a different FM app from the Play store? Just find one that has a notification widget, then it should work. I dont have fm in my phone so cant test it myself
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The stock FM Radio in my Moto G4 has "a notification widget". It's like any other audio app.
Please, can you provide some technical info about how you search for Apps? Can you include some logging tool inside your App?
jvvpc said:
For the voice control, only "play music" seems to work ("pause", "play" etc. fails on Google's side). This is a requirement from Google, so couldnt update the app without including this, but will expand it furter like "Play Chrome on AnyAutoAudio".
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Great! You will start the "AudioApp" when the command "Play [AudioApp] on AnyAutoAudio" is done, or will be required to have the AudioApp already open?
Dec64 said:
For most android head units you can not use a different FM radio app as far as i'm aware. The DAB app does not show up either which is a big shame, oh well.
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Ahh so its a unit with Android onboard? Well it should still handle the apps the same way. The way this apps works is by connecting to the MediaSession that an audio app should create, if you follow Android Docs. But apps can still play audio without this, and some does so. I have tried it with different audio apps, and so far have not found other ways
manos78 said:
The stock FM Radio in my Moto G4 has "a notification widget". It's like any other audio app.
Please, can you provide some technical info about how you search for Apps? Can you include some logging tool inside your App?
Great! You will start the "AudioApp" when the command "Play [AudioApp] on AnyAutoAudio" is done, or will be required to have the AudioApp already open?
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My fault I assumed that audio apps with notification used standard implementation, but not all does have I found. Also see answer above
For the filtering it works by finding apps that use the intent "ACTION_MEDIA_BUTTON". This is what an audio app is required to use to be able to handle volume and playback control, so any audio app using MediaSession will have this. Also in 0.0.3 it will filter out apps that already have Android Auto implementation
EDIT: Answer to last question
You will still need to have the audioapp already opened. I might be able to change that for head units but for the Auto app I can't as calling new apps will open ontop and that violates the rules..
jvvpc said:
Ahh so its a unit with Android onboard? Well it should still handle the apps the same way. The way this apps works is by connecting to the MediaSession that an audio app should create, if you follow Android Docs. But apps can still play audio without this, and some does so. I have tried it with different audio apps, and so far have not found other ways
My fault I assumed that audio apps with notification used standard implementation, but not all does have I found. Also see answer above
For the filtering it works by finding apps that use the intent "ACTION_MEDIA_BUTTON". This is what an audio app is required to use to be able to handle volume and playback control, so any audio app using MediaSession will have this. Also in 0.0.3 it will filter out apps that already have Android Auto implementation
EDIT: Answer to last question
You will still need to have the audioapp already opened. I might be able to change that for head units but for the Auto app I can't as calling new apps will open ontop and that violates the rules..
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So it's not possible to get the FM radio apps in question to work at all?
jvvpc said:
EDIT: Answer to last question
You will still need to have the audioapp already opened. I might be able to change that for head units but for the Auto app I can't as calling new apps will open ontop and that violates the rules..
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Hi,
Perhaps a root mode to launch an App as background can be a temporal alternative.
What you think?
Dec64 said:
So it's not possible to get the FM radio apps in question to work at all?
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Well the problem is not in the FM itself, you might be able to find other FM apps that will work. I will continue to seek solutions that will work across most apps
manos78 said:
Hi,
Perhaps a root mode to launch an App as background can be a temporal alternative.
What you think?
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That's a good idea! I will add it to my todo list, but will focus on the basic features for now. I will look into it when that is working properly
:good:
Also has anyone tried it with a head unit yet? When I use the emulator, the icons on the list of chosen apps in Auto disappears after first load. Not sure if this is a emulator error or in the app, as i don't get this on my phone
Can you please pm version .02 as that allowed spotify to show up. For some reason after the 2.3 update to android auto my spotify no longer shows up at all. This app was only the way for my spotify to work.
App installed... works as promised. Very useful, thanks! Will test next versions for sure...
@chocolatet: as I already wrote in other thread, to restore Spotify, you must install that app from adb shell (not from Play store).
Now that I stupidly upgraded to Android 12 on my Pixel, I can no longer use AA on my phone. For those who don't know, Google replaced AA's phone mode with Maps' "driving mode", which is a portrait-only mess of mostly-useless widgets. My car is never going to be able to have real Android Auto, so I'm stuck with phone mode, which has worked great for years.
Anyone know what would be involved in getting an older APK for run on Android 12? Or hacking the current version to show the phone mode UI again?
I have a similar problem. I've also upgraded to android 12 so I can't use Android auto anymore. After updating it did launch at first but I guess it auto updated to a version that disabled it on Android 12. So it seems that android 12 can run it just fine.
I'm perfectly willing to try out the new driving mode but I'm living in the Netherland which is not a supported county at the moment.
So google basically removed a feature I used every day without providing me with an alternative.
So I'm hoping there will be modified asks that will skip the android 12 check or some way to enable driving mode In unsupported countries. I don't mind driving in portret mode (I'll take anything at the moment), but would prefer landscape.
I found an interesting workaround in running the Headunit Reloaded app in Self Mode.
Seems to work fine on Android 12 .
It provides the same interface that build in Android Auto car units would have, so it differs a bit from the mounted phone version.
Search the forum for more information.
It's a paid app though.
I think many have this issue with AA car mode. I'm in the UK and have this issue also my poco F1 won't allow AA to backdate an install without root.
All I want is for the 0hone AA to show calendar entries and weather would be awesome. I loved the original AA but it's very dull on current phones.
Can anyone help or assist with a custom apk or know of one, that can be installed normally and work as it used too. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks
can you uninstall AA and reinstall with older version?
They have cardashdroid. I'm still on eleven and this morning after the last aa update I seen it looked like aa aiontweaker was not working anymore or at least I didn't have split screen. I'm on OnePlus 9 pro and haven't updated because I didn't want to lose some features.
ahhl said:
can you uninstall AA and reinstall with older version?
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Hi thanks for the question, no an unrooted Poco F1 won't let you uninstall or back date to an older app.
I've tried the AA for screens but it doesn't do calender entries, so I have to input all the time where I'm going and weather isn't there, although not critical, I did love this feature.
It's just a blank screen and even texts aren't read now, so it's killed the app for driving. Older cars in the UK don't have onboard screens and I'd rather use the phone for traffic updates than an bad sat nav.
Itnwasnonce a great app but not anymore.
So any chance of customising the app for these basic functions would be great.
Atb
Also, I don't think an older APK will help. It seems to be a server side switch. My Android Auto continued working right after upgrading to 12, but after a couple of hours, it quit working and redirects to the "no longer supported" screen. I think we'd need to spoof the Android version somehow, which is something I can't begin to guess at how to do.
That's a shame I was hoping that at least the calendar could be integrated, I noticed that in permissions calandar is disabled, other permissions are allowed. So I was assuming that if the permission could be enabled that calendar entries could appear if encoded to display etc. I didn't think it was all server based as why would they remove the permission?
Just a thought anyway.
Atb
Guys, what about running AA on Android 10? I was using aa for phone screens on my huawei p30 and it just stopped working without any update
Yep ggogle have basically stopped any alterations or updates on my phone's to AA. So it's a dead duck it water I can't even use Waze as an alternative!
If a modded AA could be created, with local weather and calender shown that would be great, and the option of Waze again.
Atb
pieteckhart said:
I found an interesting workaround in running the Headunit Reloaded app in Self Mode.
Seems to work fine on Android 12 .
It provides the same interface that build in Android Auto car units would have, so it differs a bit from the mounted phone version.
Search the forum for more information.
It's a paid app though.
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How are you running 'Self Mode' on an Android 12 phone? Mine doesn't seem to work when I try to start it
That being said the only workaround I've found is to use another phone (Android <12) as the master by turning ON hotspot, open HUR on the Android 12 phone and click the wifi icon
$ilent Warrior said:
How are you running 'Self Mode' on an Android 12 phone? Mine doesn't seem to work when I try to start it
That being said the only workaround I've found is to use another phone (Android <12) as the master by turning ON hotspot, open HUR on the Android 12 phone and click the wifi icon
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Maybe you still need to "Start head unit server" in the Android Auto app?
I only found out about it after taking the time to read the instructions
You first need to enter developer mode:
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Follow. I really miss old AA for phone screens. New driving mode assistant is ****
What a despicable move by Google.
I upgraded S21 ultra from Android 11 to Android 12, worst mistake ever.
Apart from losing Android Auto for phone screens, I dont even have option for driving mode assistent.
What absolute bull****, taking a working product away, and making driving more unsafe.
No 3rd party solution comes near.
Would be so gratefull if someone found a workaround/hack to get AA for phone screens working again.
pieteckhart said:
Maybe you still need to "Start head unit server" in the Android Auto app?
I only found out about it after taking the time to read the instructions
You first need to enter developer mode:
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After that you have a new menu option:
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I did that, I always turn ON 'Headunit Server' , it's one of the pre-requisites to make HUR work
I have no idea then, #WorksOnMyDevice
So if goovle are crippling AA for phone users, are there any working good alternatives out there as I haven't found a simple talk to sat Nav linked to waze or Google maps, with text and voice answering hands free.
Most of the apps are crippled by Google so there's nothing out there that seems to give a decent stab at a navigation solution with calls and text response facility.
Any advice on this would be appreciated
Atb
There is no good alternative. There are a couple of apps like Automate or whatever it is called now, but they are truly terrible compared to AA. Google have been updating "driving mode" over the last six months, but true to form they have only made it worse. This week it removed the one icon I had to use to launch the music player and replaced it with SIX icons to random podcasts I have never heard of, about subjects I have no interest in.
Every single day when I get in my car, I hate Google more.
pgunning1 said:
So if goovle are crippling AA for phone users, are there any working good alternatives out there as I haven't found a simple talk to sat Nav linked to waze or Google maps, with text and voice answering hands free.
Most of the apps are crippled by Google so there's nothing out there that seems to give a decent stab at a navigation solution with calls and text response facility.
Any advice on this would be appreciated
Atb
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Try Roav Viva (radio connection) or Alexa (bluetooth/aux/USB connection) car adapters, they plug into the 12-volt accessory plugs and have always on microphones and wind canceling software.