This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
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yes, as i posted i am well aware the phone is quick charge 3.0 capable. my question though is the charger that ships with the phone a quick charge charger. there are other xiaomi phones that are also quick charge but the user has to provide their own quick charger.
if i were to guess i do not think this charger is a quick charger based on my results compared to my nexus 6.
wu5262 said:
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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I got an Aukey QC3 5-Port Charger.
I'm trying to get my device empty right now (tough though as it lasts pretty long) and will test it afterwards.
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I compared the included charger with my Anker quick charge 3 charger using the Ampere app.
The given stats were marginally better with the included charger.
I'm not really sure what all the figures mean but they were there or there abouts the same, the Anker charger is Qualcom QC3 certified.
Not nearly getting the quoted charge times though with either charger.
At 53% it claimed 44 mins to 100%
Yes, it ships with a fast charger. It delivers:
5V - 2.5A (12,5W)
9V - 2A (18W)
12V - 1.5A (18W)
So yes, it's a QC2.0 fast charger.
I'm currently at 69% and on the normal charger it's 3 hours+, on the QC2.0 charger I have, it's 1.5 hours and it gave me the same for the included charger. Kind of disappointed that it's only 2.0.
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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Which one? Link?
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Which one? Link?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M11UT3V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
with a case you don't even know it is there.
Thx for the Link:good:
Yes BUT!!!... lol
knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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get a Pioneer Appradio that mirrors your phones screen and problem solved. now that i'm so used to it i can't imagine my phone's screen not being the screen of the head unit in my car everything is right there makes it so much easier
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I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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I'm revising my previous post, it seems that the provided charger may indeed be a QC 3.0.
I've been reading that if you use USB-c to USB-c cable instead of the provided USB-a to USB-c cable, you actually get charge rate.
I've also been reading up on the QC 3.0 vs 2.0. Both will max out at 18watts. But 3.0 has a variable voltage whereas 2.0 is fixed at 5V, 9V and 12V. You can see that in the below link, there's a nice table of Watts for each QC.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
However with USB-C to USB-C, it can charge at full 29Watts. That's a huge difference.
you can see that in the description provided by Anker here
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-Delivery-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO
You can also see here in this device
https://www.amazon.com/Lumsing-Charge-Charger-Foldable-Macbook/dp/B01I1OIO4A
it says 48W of power, and allocates 19W for QC 3.0 which means the other Type-C port is allocated for 29Watts.
So I think I'm going to be looking for something with a direct USB-C port as a charger.
Certainly, this may be all for not if the Xiaomi Mi Mix is limited to 18W of input anyways.
I have the Anker USB-C to USB-C charger, my initial testing indicate that the original charger (China Plug) and my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge charger (UK Plug) are capable of doing 23.8 Watts max, i tried to monitor the difference and what I noticed is the Mi Mix original charger seems to be adjusting the charging power more often (not really sure why and whether it's good). My Anker USB-C to USB-C went up to 28.9 Watts Max. All chargers seems to scale down their charging rate after battery reach 80%+ so I think the best way to test is to empty the better and start from 0%. I doubt I will be doing that test though as it's quite hard to empty battery on Mix and I am pretty happy with my Anker charger so don't think I will be using Stock one or my Samsung one.
Unless I go on holiday with multiple devices that still use old USB port, Anker USB-C to USB-C is my go to charger.
So I think what you confirmed was that the mix can take power at 29 watts.
That's good to know.
Just received this wireless charging receiver today that claims to do fast charge
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX0Y5CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it does charge much faster, almost double of the one i posted originally in this thread. i'm getting a charge on it around 950ma which isn't too bad for wireless i don't think.
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
LaNsLyDe said:
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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That's what I'm using too! I was at 24% battery, went to sleep for 4 hours with it charging, and I'm only at 74%. There has to be a way to know when we quick charge lol
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Hello,
Has anyone used a Quick Charge portable battery pack before? You know how when you plug it in to the wall or outlet it will say "fast charging", well I don't get that with quick charge.
Is this normal or should I be panicking?
Thanks
Which model do you have? I have the 15,000mah PB-T3 model & it fast charges my phone fine now. The battery pack itself even supports quick charge so the battery pack will charge at 9V with the Samsung adaptive fast charger or 12V with a certified QC 2.0 charger.
I say "now" cause the first one I received melted & died while charging it.
Have you tried another quality cable?
Brava27 said:
Hello,
Has anyone used a Quick Charge portable battery pack before? You know how when you plug it in to the wall or outlet it will say "fast charging", well I don't get that with quick charge.
Is this normal or should I be panicking?
Thanks
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I got this one and it works great.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZCGLBT6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_RTniwbKHYM6SX
Also. You need to make sure your cable is plugged into the correct port. I am assuming you have one with two ports, either way if you do have the two ports only one of them is QC 2.0 enabled.
Mine doesn't say, but charges quick -
shouren04 said:
Which model do you have? I have the 15,000mah PB-T3 model & it fast charges my phone fine now. The battery pack itself even supports quick charge so the battery pack will charge at 9V with the Samsung adaptive fast charger or 12V with a certified QC 2.0 charger.
I say "now" cause the first one I received melted & died while charging it.
Have you tried another quality cable?
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I was looking at the 10000mah one, the PB-T4 which is 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches in size.
I cant find anywhere the dimensions of the PB-T3, is there any way you could measure it?
Apache0c said:
I was looking at the 10000mah one, the PB-T4 which is 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches in size.
I cant find anywhere the dimensions of the PB-T3, is there any way you could measure it?
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The dimensions listed on Amazon & most other vendors is wrong. The dimensions you gave that's listed for the PB-T4 on Amazon is the size of my PB-T3. Before purchasing I was looking for dimensions also & in another thread someone measured the PB-T4 to be 6.25 x 2.5 x .75 which makes sense cause the PB-T4 looks narrower & thicker than the PB-T3.
I store mine in a Maxpedition TC-2 pouch.
shouren04 said:
The dimensions listed on Amazon & most other vendors is wrong. The dimensions you gave that's listed for the PB-T4 on Amazon is the size of my PB-T3. Before purchasing I was looking for dimensions also & in another thread someone measured the PB-T4 to be 6.25 x 2.5 x .75 which makes sense cause the PB-T4 looks narrower & thicker than the PB-T3.
I store mine in a Maxpedition TC-2 pouch.
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Wow, so you are saying you can fully confirm the PB-T3 is exactly 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches?
If thats the case then I'm going to buy it tomorrow.
Thanks!
Apache0c said:
Wow, so you are saying you can fully confirm the PB-T3 is exactly 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches?
If thats the case then I'm going to buy it tomorrow.
Thanks!
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Yes, mine measures 6-1/2 x 2-7/8 x 5/8.
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Yes, mine measures 6-1/2 x 2-7/8 x 5/8.
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Perfect. That seems like the best all around battery pack.
Heck, it's thicker but the footprint isnt much bigger than the LG V10 (or the Note 5 for that matter) itself.
I can carry the phone and batterypack together in my front jeans pocket easy.
Thanks again!
No problem. Yup, that's what I was worried about, being too big but as you said it's not much bigger than my N5 or the V10.
I was unlucky & the first one I got melted during it's first charge (the battery pack, not while charging my phone) so just to be safe keep an eye out on how hot it gets on your first charge. I liked this one the most out of all the others I was looking at so I took a chance with a replacement. Haven't had one problem with the one I have now.
What I like about is the most is it also supports QC2.0 fast charging & at 12v (but you'll need a QC2.0 charger to charge it at 12v & not an OEM that's only 9v max) so it's not just the output that is fast charging.
EDIT: Oh looks like I already mentioned the fast charging input in this thread.
shouren04 said:
No problem. Yup, that's what I was worried about, being too big but as you said it's not much bigger than my N5 or the V10.
I was unlucky & the first one I got melted during it's first charge (the battery pack, not while charging my phone) so just to be safe keep an eye out on how hot it gets on your first charge. I liked this one the most out of all the others I was looking at so I took a chance with a replacement. Haven't had one problem with the one I have now.
What I like about is the most is it also supports QC2.0 fast charging & at 12v (but you'll need a QC2.0 charger to charge it at 12v & not an OEM that's only 9v max) so it's not just the output that is fast charging.
EDIT: Oh looks like I already mentioned the fast charging input in this thread.
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You helped me a lot on this, thanks.
Check it out, I've got my shopping cart loaded up. That Tronsmart 54W, 5 port charger does the QC2.0 12V so I'm hoping it will charge up the Batterypack nicely
BTW, for anyone interested this is another nice looking single port charger also that I want but am holding off on: http://amzn.to/21GlCBh
Thanks again :good:
Apache0c said:
Check it out, I've got my shopping cart loaded up. That Tronsmart 54W, 5 port charger does the QC2.0 12V so I'm hoping it will charge up the Batterypack nicely
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Nice. That charger should do just fine. I like the Tronsmart stuff. I charge mine with the 3 port Tronsmart.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...UTF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-1&keywords=tronsmart
I also use their compact fast charger in the car.
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Cha...TF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-12&keywords=tronsmart
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Nice. That charger should do just fine. I like the Tronsmart stuff. I charge mine with the 3 port Tronsmart.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...UTF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-1&keywords=tronsmart
I also use their compact fast charger in the car.
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Cha...TF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-12&keywords=tronsmart
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Yeah, I was looking at that 3-port you have. Interesting that it is such high wattage, at 42W when the 5 port is only 54W. I'm wondering if the 3-Port has faster charging or something but all the QC2.0 port specs seem to be the same.
You might have seen, I'm planning to get this one for the car: http://amzn.to/1OOlcSp
Try this one. At least, you can use this in the near future because of type-c port. I'm definitely satisfied with this product.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015IZW5RM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
Need help with the aukey power bank
Hey i read you've been using the aukey charger.
I an looking to buy yhe same but spectical about the performance.
Does the power bank itself charge using fast charging? If so which charger you use.
How long does it take for the power bank to charge completely using the output of your charger.
Thanks
I purchased the Aukey 3.0 do to the fact that it work with both micro USB 2.0 & USB Type-C 3.0 compatible. (I won't have to buy another one next year! Lol) I have to say it's quite remarkable. Small enough to put in my pocket with phone connected using a small cable. I got from 55% to full in about 17 min. while screen was off. Takes a while to charge the unit itself (which is to be expected with 10,000 mAh) The unit itself can not be fast charged. It also will not fast charge a phone while it is being charged itself. Simply put, with a $20 price tag (now $30), you can't go wrong. Next time I use it, I'll get some screenshots & add to thread.
AUKEY 16000 mah charge time
Hi all,
Thanks for a help-full post. i bought a aukey 16000mah power bank.
When i recharge the device using my Asus charger (5v 2A & 9V 2A ) from
my phone the device does not show full charge indication. The light on
the power button flashes (Breathing effect) RED, GREEN and then
WHITE. It never goes to SOLID WHITE which would indicate 100% charge
even after plugging it in for 9-12 hours.
I have also used a Aukey 10000mah power bank and in 5-6 hours its
light status goes to SOLID WHITE.
Is this issue only with me or has anyone else faced the same? How long
should the device take to recharge itself with 5V 2A rated charger
which is also mentioned on the device's INPUT rating.
Also would like to know if the light ever goes to SOLID WHITE with other users.
Thanks
Wish one of these codes worked on the 20000mah.
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You should avoid Fast Charge or anything like that. It's extremely bad for lithium polymer to be "Fast Charged" the technical behind it is look at your power brick. Anything over 5v charging is to much and will shorten the battery life. I've seen 5.3 and 9.0. I use a 4.8v 2A charger on all my devices. The lithium polymer gets forced above it's operating voltage of 3.7 to 4.1v.
So I am back again asking about power.
Since switching to my Nexus 5x I have had to redo all of my power supplies. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Google wall options but now I have a request for something portable.
What I am looking for is a battery pack that can output the 3amps to quickly charge the phone, I dont really care if it charges quickly itself. The reason being is I have a solar panel that can push 1-2 amps and I was planning on strapping it to the back of the bike or leaving it on the tent to charge the battery over time and then using the battery to charge the phone.
I actually just purchased this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ5KHJW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I got it for $21..99 on a lightening deal. Haven't tried it yet, but it outputs 3amps
I have an Anker Powercore 21000mAH external battery, using a USB A to C cable, Ampere reports charge rates up to approx 1700mAH. The lock screen reports charging rapidly.
The cable is a Pecham one, It appears to be good quality, nice and thick, braided cable and a positive fit at the 5x end. I was happy with the charging speed, having just read the google cable reviews thread not so sure.....
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ryan stewart said:
So I am back again asking about power.
Since switching to my Nexus 5x I have had to redo all of my power supplies. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the Google wall options but now I have a request for something portable.
What I am looking for is a battery pack that can output the 3amps to quickly charge the phone, I dont really care if it charges quickly itself. The reason being is I have a solar panel that can push 1-2 amps and I was planning on strapping it to the back of the bike or leaving it on the tent to charge the battery over time and then using the battery to charge the phone.
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I own the Romoss Solo5, outputs at 2.1a and 1.5a. With a normal type C cable from CableMatters, I don't get rapid charging, but it does fill up faster than a generic usb charger.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J1EO4IA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Perez92 said:
I actually just purchased this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ5KHJW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I got it for $21..99 on a lightening deal. Haven't tried it yet, but it outputs 3amps
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Ill be curious to see what you get. My concern is they dont mention the specific output of the ports, just the overall 3 amp. I suspect its split across teh two ports in some fashion like most (where they can do 2 amps on a single port but then 1.5 across both)
I have a 2 amp charger but I am hoping for a 3 to get that max performance. The idea is I could use the phone for music, navigation, etc on the motorcycle and then get a very quick top up while breaking for lunch, etc.
You need a type C connector at both ends.
A USB type-C to type-A cable cannot and should not allow charging at more than 2A (0.5A for USB 2.0 standard), because that is the most allowed in the USB spec as mentioned by the Google engineer that's been reviewing Type-C cables on Amazon. In order to support 3A rapid charging you would need a battery pack with a type-C port on it that supports rapid charging. Even if a type-A port is capable of supplying 3+ amps, the phone will only charge at up to about 1.7A without the type-C port at both ends. I don't know of any battery packs that support the type-C spec yet, although I'm sure they're coming.
That is why I am asking. I dont care if it charges itself at 3amps because my sources wouldnt provide that anyway. Im looking for the battery pack itself to pump out 3 amps. Im holding out for one of those and until then I will work along with my existing ones.
Check out the ravpower 20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC2.0-type-c. Can't post links yet.....
mevol said:
Check out the ravpower 20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC2.0-type-c. Can't post links yet.....
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http://www.amazon.com/product/dp/B0156HCJQO/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=androidusb-20&linkId=c4193d8075320df6322366eecaa84448
Neat thing about this, you can use the OEM 5v 3a charger to charge it. Interesting to see if it charges faster than other options.
mysterious posted in the other thread that he/she ordered it. Im waiting with baited breath to hear the results. This might be the perfect all-rounder (dont really need the other ports but they dont hurt anything).
Could charge with my solar panels, could charge with the stock adapter and hopefully the phone quickly on a lunch break.
I love how none of these products ship to Canada, except the official Google stuff which is no out of stock.
Based on early reviews of OPPO's VOOC which is the OP Dash charging system, this seems far superior to any QC or even iPhone charging system on the market. By taking the heat out to the actual charger block @ around 20 watts over 7pins it is faster and cooler than QC2.0 and cooler than Moto's QC2.0+.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAS76EZ87dc
Even OP's Dash looks identical to OPPO's VOOC
http://www.oppo.com/en/accessory-vooc-car-charger
I would like to categorize what is available on the market for Dash/VOOC.
(OPPOstyle.com is slightly confusing if it is real or just a showroom)
VOOC Charger: $49 http://na.oppostyle.com/vooc-flash-charger-us-plug
DASH Charger: $19.95 https://oneplus.net/dash-charge-power-adapter
DASH Cable: $14.95 https://oneplus.net/dash-charge-type-c-cable
Combo Cable+Charger: $33
VOOC Car Charger: $49 http://www.oppo.com/en/accessories/in-car-flash-charger
DASH Car Charger: $29.95 https://oneplus.net/dash-charge-car-charger
VOOC 6000mAh Brick: $48 http://www.oppo.com/en/accessory-vooc-power-bank
Would be great to see other manufacturers buy into this system, hopefully OPPO can license it.
Super MOOC is on the horizon.
Wrong links? You are showing a micro usb from Oppo instead of USB-C
lindahl85 said:
Wrong links? You are showing a micro usb from Oppo instead of USB-C
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Oppo doesn't use USB C to my knowledge. But valid point.
20 amps? I guess you mean 20 Watts = 5V * 4A
60% in 30 minutes, awesome. Since I have several QC chargers at home, it will be interesting how slow charging will be with those.
I really want the Dash car charger, but €45 (charger+cable) is a bit steep IMO.
Edit: according to their AMA, there will be no licensed dash chargers. So we'll have to get the expensive ones from OnePlus. Fair enough.
derdjango said:
60% in 30 minutes, awesome. Since I have several QC chargers at home, it will be interesting how slow charging will be with those.
I really want the Dash car charger, but €45 (charger+cable) is a bit steep IMO.
Edit: according to their AMA, there will be no licensed dash chargers. So we'll have to get the expensive ones from OnePlus. Fair enough.
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Im hoping all my QC chargers will work fine as well (expecting around 1:45 to get close to fully charged), ill be swapping between a G5 and the OP3 and do not really want to have to keep changing chargers
Its 100% secure you can use the Oppo chargers and works like Dash?
taphius said:
Im hoping all my QC chargers will work fine as well (expecting around 1:45 to get close to fully charged), ill be swapping between a G5 and the OP3 and do not really want to have to keep changing chargers
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They are not interchangeable as far as quick charging goes
QC2.0 wall charger will drip charge the OP3
Dash/VOOC wall charger will drip charge the G5
Where Drip Charge = the 2.1amp limit of the cable.
AMRivlin said:
They are not interchangeable as far as quick charging goes
QC2.0 wall charger will drip charge the OP3
Dash/VOOC wall charger will drip charge the G5
Where Drip Charge = the 2.1amp limit of the cable.
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Yeap, that is what I am hoping it does. 2amp is sufficient enough when I swap phones. Once I pick the DD i'll use their respective quickcharge adapter
Is there a adapter that works for oppos microusb vooc charger to usb-c dash charging. That would have been great since I already have 4 VOOC chargers but the cable is non removable from the charger.
Actually they are the same thing;
Here is the offical reply on Weibo
static .oneplus .cn/data/attachment/forum/201606/16/194521z84aw3hoh4u68uah.jpg.w_768.jpg
DASH is a technology from OPPO just like VOOC .
They (DASH/VOOC) are just different brand.
I'll upload an OxygenOS V3.1.2 for OP3 (the stock rom) as soon as possible.
I've just got it from the OFFICAL BBS in Chinese.
www .oneplusbbs .com/thread-2782858-1-1.html
(I can't send a regular url,cause I'm new on XDA.) QAQ
They are the same thing, but the specification allows authentication of the components. The question is, did they lock out VOOC in Dash?
Well all of VOOC is USB micro for now. So it is physically locked out, but I think you could use the actual charger block with a DASH cable.
Also hope that VOOC Charger will work with DASH.
But since the OP3 started to arrive at customers, maybe someone can test it?
I'm really interested in the car charger and the VOOC bank.. specially if the cable on the bank is swappable
Has anyone tried to use a different USB type c cable, a third party one?
the Oneplus 3 cable is too short for my needs. i will order one soon to try but would like to know first. thanks :good:
Mumin said:
Has anyone tried to use a different USB type c cable, a third party one?
the Oneplus 3 cable is too short for my needs. i will order one soon to try but would like to know first. thanks :good:
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Third party cables actually don't work with DASH.. if think it needs time..
Tested the oneplus 2 1.5m USB C and it's not working with DASH charging.. It did charge but not at fast speeds.
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i did think it wont work, i guess we all have to wait a bit, all phone companies should release phones with 2m cables out the box lol
Yeah I really want a longer cable. 3ft/1m doesn't cut it for me.
So I got the phone and an additional Dash charger+cable. What confuses me is why are the 2 cables different? Round vs Flat.
TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.
Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.
Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607
In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?
Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.
I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.
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Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?
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But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.
I have an old quick charge 2.0 car and wall charger. I know they won't work with dash but I'm just double checking to make sure they're safe and won't damage my OP3T. Seeing as how the phone accepts 4a (I think) I'm pretty sure 2.4 in will be fine. Thanks in advance!
same Q, I have a QC 2.0 and normal charger, not sure if putting 2.0 or normal charge apart from the dash charge?
It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
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What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
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If I am not mistaken, most of the newer usb cables are rated at 2.1-2.4A for charging. But if you want to be safe I would suggest you take notice of what the cables are rated at. For me personally, I always follow the rules of not using lower rated cables on higher rated input.
Any high quality charger will work just fine with OnePlus, although Dash Charge will turn on ONLY will OnePlus/OPPO dash charger and official USB cable. So you are limited to lower (non dash charge) speed.
QC 1/2/3, Turbo charge, Super charge, Dash charge.. adapters are safe to use with any phone, fast charging will not engage if the phone doesnt support it.
I recommend checking this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Cool beans, sounds like I'm good to go. I'm using whatever cable the charger came with and a USB C adapter from Aukey. Works just fine! Not really too concerned about dash charge since it's sitting bedside or in the car for road trips. Thanks!
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
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so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
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Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
I use my 6 ft Nexus 6P charger as my primary and in my car I have my iOrange cable with a Maxboost 2.0 & 2.4 car charger
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Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
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Thanks so much, had been w android for years, might go otherside and get iphone as i see a lot at work. i just feel left out. but then i think of the deadly iphone not charging due to 3rd party cable mesage which pops up and then wanna stay w andorid