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Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
jt3 said:
Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
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No indication.
but it is faster, I ran my 2.1a charger against it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-charge-time-test-moto-turbo-t2948176
DieGo316 said:
The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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Well i used my N5 cable that came with the charger and didn't even notice the difference, changed back to the moto one because i don't like the glossy look on the LG one.
By any chance you tried using your cable in your car?? Did it charged?? I tried to use mine in my car and didn't work, I got a 2014 corolla maybe it's because of the small battery in the car, I really dunno. It's weird.
Yes I too would like to know what charges and cords work correctly...
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I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full.
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UPDATE: Okay, this worked... sort of. Well, it definitely worked, but it wasn't quite so simple. My phone was at about 71% charge, and I put it on the Moto Turbo Charger. A minute later, it said it had about 25 minutes remaining for a full charge. I removed it, and placed it on my Nexus 7 charger (which, incidentally, is only a 1.2A charger, but it proved the point). It took over 5 minutes to show the "charge complete in..." message, in which it indicated it would take over two hours. I guess, you could consider the extended wait time a sign, but something NOT happening is always a really bad way to prove something. Still, once it DID show, 25m vs 2h is definitely a good measure.
The weird thing is... it took about 5 minutes to show that message on the 1.2A charger, during which, the charge increased from 71% to 74%. Assuming a similar 3% increase every 5 minutes, it should reach its full charge in about 45 minutes, not the two hours it stated. Since this was only a 1.2A charger, a 2A charger could do it in almost half that time, or about the 25 minutes that was initially reported. Still, I was at 71%, and at that level, the Turbo Charger may not shift into 9V or 12V modes, so I guess that seemed about right.
I'd still like to see an app that could tell me instantly or, at least, within a few seconds, but this is definitely an alternative. Although, you still really need to test it while the battery is pretty low, but at least it stops the necessity to time a full charge.
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
marctronixx said:
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
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Great app. I use the free version just to check battery flow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
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TheSopranos16 said:
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
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You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
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Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
i use and watch the current widget. the nexus 6 default charger has nearly 2450mV coming in at a certain point of its charging cycle! no other charger will do that for you, i dont think.
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the current widget https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
op brings up a very good point that i didnt realize before. on my note 4, when you plug in the nexus 6 moto turbo charger or any other quick charge 2.0 charger a window pops up explaining adaptive fast charging. you can dismiss it and make it never show up again. you also get an "adaptive fast charger connected" notification in the notification bar. these are very good things. on nexus 6? nothing...
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
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Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
Skripka said:
Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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yes
http://www.verizonwireless.com/acce...er-with-fast-charge-technology-for-micro-usb/
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Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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Actually, most vehicle power outlets have a 10A or 20A fuse (cigarette lighters tend to be on the lower end, while power outlets tend to be on the upper end), and operate at 12V. Even at the lower 10A range, that's 120W of power. Traditional USB Car adapters step that down to 5V at up to 2A, or about 10W of power. The QC. 2.0 standard allows for 3A at 5V, 9V, or 12V, for a maximum of 15W, 27W, or 36W respectively. That's well below what your car can handle. Not to mention that none of the existing adapters even come close to that amperage. Most that I've seen only run at 5V or 9V, at 1.67A. That only 15W at 9V.
So... to answer your question. Yes, QC 2.0 vehicle adapters exist (check out Amazon), and no, they won't even come close to hitting the power ceiling of your car's cigarette lighter / power outlet.
Ooh! I like that Verizon car adapter. That LED at the connector would really come in handy! Thanks, @indianajonze!
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You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
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You can also use an AC meter such as Kill a Watt
http://www.p3international.com/products/p4400.html
Which might be more useful to have around the house. You should see the charger drawing about 5W for standard 1A USB charger, 10W for 2A and up to 14-15W for turbo. The battery widgets others have mentioned work great too.
One of the big concerns I had with the proprietary Dash Charging system is whether I'd be able to use previously purchased power banks.
I've been testing my OP3 with the RAVPower 26800mAh powerbank along with the Anker USB-C to USB 2.0 cable.
The powerbank is capable of outputting 2.4a, which produces a quick charge on other devices.
On the OP3, I get between 30 and 57% charge / h (measured using the Battery Monitor Widget app), which is acceptable to me.
It's not Dash Charging speed, but it'll work in case you were wondering.
MI Charger
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
quote from Android central
"For the first time, OnePlus is including a fast charging system on the OnePlus 3. Rather than go with another standard like Qualcomm's Quick Charge, OnePlus made its own "Dash Charge" system. Dash Charge promises a 60% charge on your OnePlus 3 in just 30 minutes, which is just as fast as any other system — the only catch here is you'll have to use the Dash Charger in the box and the included cable.
Your OnePlus 3 will charge just fine off of other chargers — whether they're Quick Charge 3.0, Nexus Rapid Charge or something else — but you just won't get Dash Charge speeds."
I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Seemed like a good choice as outputting 3.6A would be good enough for me. Would you be able to point me a link where to purchase it from? Many thanks.
are you sure the 3.6a isnt a maximum of all the ports on the bank?
usually if they have multiple ports they say a maximum load for all being X, but I've only ever seen a maximum amperage of 2.4a on a port (few and far between) most 2.1a as stated per port.
even then they charge my OP3 at 1.2a using oneplus's cable, same as my s5 beforehand.
there is a great app on the store called Ampere which tells you your current charging/discharging amps
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I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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and ?? whats the verdict ?
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Link to that powerbank please
Framedtrash said:
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Check my post on another thread,
You can use OPPO VOOC Powerbank,
It charge as fast as at least 3.5A
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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Hastaloego said:
and ?? whats the verdict ?
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
Framedtrash said:
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
OP3 is only able to charge at 1.5A max with everything except the dash charger and cable, from my tests.
BoiBundy said:
No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
What's the easiest way to test what amperage a non-Dash charger is charging at? I'm curious to know if some of my Quick Charge adapters will provide 2.4A. I've only done a very brief test with my QC3 car charger, but it gave me 3% in about 4 minutes. That's about what I was getting on a QC2.0 phone, and that's perfectly acceptable in my books.
BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Huh? that's my first comment lol and VOOC and DASH are exactly the same technology and have their specific patent. As far as I know, it will only charge with those specific chargers since it is not only the charging brick holding some proprietary charging solution but also the cable. I have a USB-C cable that can withstand over 4A but will not work even when plugged to the DASH charger. Now yes there may be a charger that quick charges this phone but it'd be very unlikely that it does exist since the cable and brick would have to have the exact specifications as the DASH/VOOC chargers.
BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Haha
As stated VOOC and DASH are the exact same thing, VOOC was created by OPPO and the rebranded by oneplus
No amount of software is going to change a hardware limitation
I guess your going to tell me that a dev is going to release a software patch that restores the headphone jack on a iPhone
Download ampere from the playstore if you want to get a rough idea of what your device is charging at
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
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Same question. Really interested in the Oneplus Power Bank charging results. Please.
TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.
Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.
Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607
In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?
Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.
I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.
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Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?
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But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.
Everything I can find says that the only way we can "quick" charge is with the official OP Dash charger?
anything else we use will only do normal/slow charge?
As far as I know, this is correct. Dash Charge and Quick Charge are entirely different technologies that are used to accomplish a similar goal.
I believe that you can still use the QC charger, but as a normal charger. Just like Dash Charger when plug other phone in, it just turn into normal charger. But there is a potential problem here, Dash Charge works by pumping a lot of amps and keep the voltage the same, while Quick Charge doing it vise-versa, and QC is a technology develop by Qualcomm, meaning the SoC itself in the OP3/3T would support it, it just the rest of the hardware do not. If for whatever reason, the QC charger still provide more voltage than 5V, it could damage the phone. I don't know what is the max voltage the 3T can take before it get damage. If you want an official answer, get it from OP.
USB C plugs will work from what I've read, but nothing will quick charge but the Dash chargers--just normal chargers. Which is fine for me honestly, I use a regular charger at home (overnight) and keep the dash charger with me for work/etc where I need to pump juice faster.
That's dumb....I was hoping for quick charge 3.0 support plus dash charging. GAH! I might get a dash car charger then....I use my phone a lot. I like being able to charge fast while I use GPS. I use GPS a ton. And my new portable charger....QC 3.0.... That part of it is useless now.... grrrrr, but is this verified?
Maybe we all should contact Anker, and ask for Dash Charge support. What I very want is the multi ports car charger with at least one Dash Charge. But such charger do not exist anywhere.
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Maybe we all should contact Anker, and ask for Dash Charge support. What I very want is the multi ports car charger with at least one Dash Charge. But such charger do not exist anywhere.
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Would love to see some 3rd party support.. in principle the idea of moving this function outside the phone seems appealing... but I hate only having 1 vendor to buy from... and I'm not even clear.. can I use the Dash charger to charge my non-OP devices? (ie. reducing the # of gizmos I have to travel with).
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Would love to see some 3rd party support.. in principle the idea of moving this function outside the phone seems appealing... but I hate only having 1 vendor to buy from... and I'm not even clear.. can I use the Dash charger to charge my non-OP devices? (ie. reducing the # of gizmos I have to travel with).
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Yes but it won't "dash" charge them.
I asked the same sort of question here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69856748&postcount=5
I've been using an anker QC 3.0 charger on the OP3T and it charges fine.
it doesn't get hot, doesn't say it's fast charging but it seems to charge at a reasonable rate nonetheless.
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I've been using an anker QC 3.0 charger on the OP3T and it charges fine.
it doesn't get hot, doesn't say it's fast charging but it seems to charge at a reasonable rate nonetheless.
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Thanks for that.
I'm interested in knowing if the voltage/amps/whatever are going to mess with the OPO battery that's not rated for the Q3.0.
Does anyone know if USB-PD charging would on the 3T? I ask this because as a nexus 6P user i have a number of charging accessories, and USB-PD is baked into the USB-C standard. So logic would dictate assuming the 3T conforms to the standard it should be able to charge at 5V 3A, which would be slower than dash charge, but quicker than the average charger.
Have a good one!
I have a 7 port anker usb3 hub that has 2 charging ports and a 2amp 12v wall wart. It charges just as fast as the OP3T charger. Full charge from 50% after work in under an hour.
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This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
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yes, as i posted i am well aware the phone is quick charge 3.0 capable. my question though is the charger that ships with the phone a quick charge charger. there are other xiaomi phones that are also quick charge but the user has to provide their own quick charger.
if i were to guess i do not think this charger is a quick charger based on my results compared to my nexus 6.
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That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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I got an Aukey QC3 5-Port Charger.
I'm trying to get my device empty right now (tough though as it lasts pretty long) and will test it afterwards.
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I compared the included charger with my Anker quick charge 3 charger using the Ampere app.
The given stats were marginally better with the included charger.
I'm not really sure what all the figures mean but they were there or there abouts the same, the Anker charger is Qualcom QC3 certified.
Not nearly getting the quoted charge times though with either charger.
At 53% it claimed 44 mins to 100%
Yes, it ships with a fast charger. It delivers:
5V - 2.5A (12,5W)
9V - 2A (18W)
12V - 1.5A (18W)
So yes, it's a QC2.0 fast charger.
I'm currently at 69% and on the normal charger it's 3 hours+, on the QC2.0 charger I have, it's 1.5 hours and it gave me the same for the included charger. Kind of disappointed that it's only 2.0.
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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Which one? Link?
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Which one? Link?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M11UT3V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
with a case you don't even know it is there.
Thx for the Link:good:
Yes BUT!!!... lol
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after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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get a Pioneer Appradio that mirrors your phones screen and problem solved. now that i'm so used to it i can't imagine my phone's screen not being the screen of the head unit in my car everything is right there makes it so much easier
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I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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I'm revising my previous post, it seems that the provided charger may indeed be a QC 3.0.
I've been reading that if you use USB-c to USB-c cable instead of the provided USB-a to USB-c cable, you actually get charge rate.
I've also been reading up on the QC 3.0 vs 2.0. Both will max out at 18watts. But 3.0 has a variable voltage whereas 2.0 is fixed at 5V, 9V and 12V. You can see that in the below link, there's a nice table of Watts for each QC.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
However with USB-C to USB-C, it can charge at full 29Watts. That's a huge difference.
you can see that in the description provided by Anker here
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-Delivery-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO
You can also see here in this device
https://www.amazon.com/Lumsing-Charge-Charger-Foldable-Macbook/dp/B01I1OIO4A
it says 48W of power, and allocates 19W for QC 3.0 which means the other Type-C port is allocated for 29Watts.
So I think I'm going to be looking for something with a direct USB-C port as a charger.
Certainly, this may be all for not if the Xiaomi Mi Mix is limited to 18W of input anyways.
I have the Anker USB-C to USB-C charger, my initial testing indicate that the original charger (China Plug) and my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge charger (UK Plug) are capable of doing 23.8 Watts max, i tried to monitor the difference and what I noticed is the Mi Mix original charger seems to be adjusting the charging power more often (not really sure why and whether it's good). My Anker USB-C to USB-C went up to 28.9 Watts Max. All chargers seems to scale down their charging rate after battery reach 80%+ so I think the best way to test is to empty the better and start from 0%. I doubt I will be doing that test though as it's quite hard to empty battery on Mix and I am pretty happy with my Anker charger so don't think I will be using Stock one or my Samsung one.
Unless I go on holiday with multiple devices that still use old USB port, Anker USB-C to USB-C is my go to charger.
So I think what you confirmed was that the mix can take power at 29 watts.
That's good to know.
Just received this wireless charging receiver today that claims to do fast charge
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX0Y5CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it does charge much faster, almost double of the one i posted originally in this thread. i'm getting a charge on it around 950ma which isn't too bad for wireless i don't think.
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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That's what I'm using too! I was at 24% battery, went to sleep for 4 hours with it charging, and I'm only at 74%. There has to be a way to know when we quick charge lol