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I read this demo from Droid-Life about the Ambient Display feature of the Nexus 6:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...-display-is-a-very-cool-take-on-moto-display/
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
So, this supposed to replace the LED notification that we all knew already.
My question: When the phone receives a notification, the display will lit on showing the notification.
That's good.
But, for how long it is displayed?
I meant, I recall with LED notification, I could see it for quite long until I noticed that I got a notification.
Will the ambient display, display the "new" notification until we "touch" the display OR interact with it?
That would be ideal.
Anyone know?
Yep, it will appear each ca. 5 seconds for ca. 2 secs until you´ve marked it as read (or until battery is empty ).
So for me it´s kind of an smarter / advanced LED replacement
Only drawback is that it only makes sense with AMOLED display (Which we know the N6 is equipped with).
So, when a new notification came in ...
The ambient display will display the notification for 2 seconds ... then OFF ... then 5 seconds later appear for 2 seconds ... then OFF ...
Repeat the above until the notification is marked as read ... or the battery has run out.
Correct?
If yes, then I think this is better!
Sorry, now I´m not 100% sure anymore as I´ve seen your linked video. I thought that Google implements it like Moto indeeds blinks as I described, but on the N6 it seems to light up only (1x) on arrival of new notifications or if you pick up the phone. Fingers crossed that N6 will get kind of a permanent blinking mode.
Android police has a nice video showing this feature. The notifications do light up periodically after they come in. Something like every 5-10 seconds until you dismiss them. Picking it up does light the ambient display as well, but they will 'pulse' on their own.
Nice, was wondering how it will work. To me better then the led.
I wonder if dynamic notifications from the play store would work better in this situation.
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biggiestuff said:
I wonder if dynamic notifications from the play store would work better in this situation.
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Have you used this on an amoled screen before? I'm curious the battery usage on it.
frigidazzi said:
Have you used this on an amoled screen before? I'm curious the battery usage on it.
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This is the response I got from the developer. I've used it on my nexus 5 before and it didn't seem to make a huge impact on battery life but the nexus 5 doesn't have an amoled screen. I imagine on they nexus 6 that it would be less of a battery hog than the ambient display.
thanks for your message! The app automatically uses the low-powered motion detection chips on newer handsets. The allocation of computing tasks to low-powered processor cores is, to the best of my knowledge, performed automatically by the system depending on the situation, so I would imagine that the app does make use of them, as it is frequently in the background and doesn’t do any “heavy lifting”. The CPU/memory footprint of the app is minimal, as it doesn’t constantly query for new notifications, but is provided with them as they come in by the Android system.
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biggiestuff said:
This is the response I got from the developer. I've used it on my nexus 5 before and it didn't seem to make a huge impact on battery life but the nexus 5 doesn't have an amoled screen. I imagine on they nexus 6 that it would be less of a battery hog than the ambient display.
thanks for your message! The app automatically uses the low-powered motion detection chips on newer handsets. The allocation of computing tasks to low-powered processor cores is, to the best of my knowledge, performed automatically by the system depending on the situation, so I would imagine that the app does make use of them, as it is frequently in the background and doesn’t do any “heavy lifting”. The CPU/memory footprint of the app is minimal, as it doesn’t constantly query for new notifications, but is provided with them as they come in by the Android system.
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Thanks. I'm gong to have to try this out on n7 and n5 just to see.
gtalum said:
Android police has a nice video showing this feature. The notifications do light up periodically after they come in. Something like every 5-10 seconds until you dismiss them. Picking it up does light the ambient display as well, but they will 'pulse' on their own.
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Can't seem to find that video
With Ambient Display turned on and NO unread notifications, does the screen still light up when the phone is picked up (because that would be bad from my point of view)?
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
mlapaglia said:
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
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Half the time mine doesn't even come on when picked up.
mlapaglia said:
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
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Yep, that's exactly how it works for me too! The good thing though is that it lights up 98% of the time so I don't have any major complaints about it.
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Do you not like looking at your phone and without having to interact with it know that you have a notification?
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Do you not like looking at your phone and without having to interact with it know that you have a notification?
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I have not gotten a "pulse" on it yet...it lights up when a notification comes in, and "breathes" a few times...but it seems to stop after minute or two...I don't see any settings to control this either.
I'd like to have a definitive understanding of exactly how it will function...
I did see the vid and from what i get out of it, sometimes when you pick up the phone the notification lights up, sometimes it doesnt. Not to mention, accelerometer/gyroscope sensor would need to be active at all times for ambient display to work.
A clear case of "if it isn't broken, don't f'king fix it."
Is there a way to turn off the flicky wrist screen on thing on my G watch R? I use the "always-on screen" feature and dont need the display to light up fully every time i look at the watch....!
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If you mute it, it turns that off. But then it is muted so I do not know if that is any good to you.
seepage said:
If you mute it, it turns that off. But then it is muted so I do not know if that is any good to you.
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Well i would still like to get the notification vibration, but its a start...!!
Thanks!
Best regards/ Henke
944s2power said:
Well i would still like to get the notification vibration, but its a start...!!
Thanks!
Best regards/ Henke
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Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
seepage said:
Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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ive done some playing around with screen always on / off and it really doesnt seem to make that much difference to battery 6:30am - 10:30pm and i have 50% battery left with screen always on. u might be able to get a few more % having it off but i didnt notice much difference in testing.
not sure about screen burn tho...
seepage said:
Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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I am worried about the screen burn-in issue. The phone based on the same P-OLED display technology G Flex suffers from this problem. I can see that the quality of GWaR's panel is improved but the burn in problem should exist as long as it's oled.
Another small thing I noticed is when you use stock watch faces, their always on screen content will randomly shift a little every minute, to avoid screen burn(so LG is aware of this problem). Thus worrying about the screen burn is not over-thinking. I turned off the always-on function when I use 3rd party watch faces. (EDIT: 3rd-party watch faces can shift itself too, seems like it's a system-wide screen saving mechanism)
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(EDIT: 3rd-party watch faces can shift itself too, seems like it's a system-wide screen saving mechanism)
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yes, it is - the Samsung Gear Live has the same feature - lets hope it helps in the long run...
Yeees
This is doing my head in, whats the point in an always on ambient mode, if the bloody thing turns on every time i move my arm. Pointless.
And mute it to stop it, then makes wearing it pointless?
This needs to be addressed asap!
944s2power said:
Is there a way to turn off the flicky wrist screen on thing on my G watch R? I use the "always-on screen" feature and dont need the display to light up fully every time i look at the watch....!
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jrvenge said:
This is doing my head in, whats the point in an always on ambient mode, if the bloody thing turns on every time i move my arm. Pointless.
And mute it to stop it, then makes wearing it pointless?
This needs to be addressed asap!
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+1
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+1
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Well, the darn thing dosn't always turn on when i look at my watch, and i like the way it looks when always on, and don't want an all black display when others look at my Beutiful watch...!!! ??
944s2power said:
Well, the darn thing dosn't always turn on when i look at my watch, and i like the way it looks when always on, and don't want an all black display when others look at my Beutiful watch...!!! ??
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LOL I think you misunderstood my post. I am in 100% agreement with both of you in that we need to be able to disable the "auto on" behavior without muting notifications.
Merely expressing my agreement...
dew.man said:
LOL I think you misunderstood my post. I am in 100% agreement with both of you in that we need to be able to disable the "auto on" behavior without muting notifications.
Merely expressing my agreement...
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+1 ??? Sorry for that.. Always read too quickly for my own good..!! ?
Just got my watch yesterday and this is also making me crazy... That's why I came to the forum in the first place. We need a setting to turn off the wake up movement gesture
Same thing here, it should be a fundamental control to turn this feature off. I'm a little worried about battery life on mine too, for some reason I'm just barely squeaking 24 hours on a full charge with no more than 12 notifications per day???
Patience my friends. Apparently there is a new update on the way, some lollipop for wear which has this much needed feature implemented.
More details here: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/11/android-wear-5-0-lollipop-features-revealed-smartwatch/
ro_explorer said:
Patience my friends. Apparently there is a new update on the way, some lollipop for wear which has this much needed feature implemented.
More details here: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/11/android-wear-5-0-lollipop-features-revealed-smartwatch/
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Are you referring to "Theater Mode"? That turns the screen off. We want the screen to be on but in the dim state.
I'm referring to this:
Ever since I met the LED notification, I've fallen in love with it and I'm sad to see that the Nexus 6 is leaving it out. Since it has an AMOLED screen, I'm thinking what would it be like battery life wise if I left the display on to always show notifications (if there is one)?
well.... with Ambient Display, the screen will pulse on every so often with just enough pixels to show the notifications you have (or at least that's how i'm understanding it'll work).
elementaldragon said:
well.... with Ambient Display, the screen will pulse on every so often with just enough pixels to show the notifications you have (or at least that's how i'm understanding it'll work).
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i think that's how it works as well but most of the time, i'm not near my phone and i just want a quick glance over to see if there are any notifications.
It's hard to say, really. I'm running one of the AOSP Lollipop builds on my Nexus 5 right now... but can't exactly compare that to the Nexus 6, since the N5 doesn't use an AMOLED screen. Every time i see Ambient Display turn on, the entire backlight is on, too.
With that said.... even with an AMOLED screen, i can't imagine leaving the screen on constantly being a good thing for battery life.
Hopefully there's at least a charging led someone can hack to use as regular led. Worked before...
frigidazzi said:
Hopefully there's at least a charging led someone can hack to use as regular led. Worked before...
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Does someone have information about that? Is there any charging LED?
Dabarr said:
Does someone have information about that? Is there any charging LED?
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I went through a bunch of videos, but none of them show charging so far..
frigidazzi said:
I went through a bunch of videos, but none of them show charging so far..
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I don't believe it does, at least by default. The Moto X has an LED behind the earpiece, which you can see a picture of here but it isn't a charging light by default. With root you can change that.
If this holds true for the Nexus 6, I don't know. No teardowns of the Nexus 6 yet, or hands on with the device showing this functionality. Even if it doesn't have this light. I am sure there will be a way to use the display to get this info across.
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I don't believe it does, at least by default. The Moto X has an LED behind the earpiece, which you can see a picture of here but it isn't a charging light by default. With root you can change that.
If this holds true for the Nexus 6, I don't know. No teardowns of the Nexus 6 yet, or hands on with the device showing this functionality. Even if it doesn't have this light. I am sure there will be a way to use the display to get this info across.
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Yeah I was reading this about the Moto x also. Hopefully it kept that design too.
I found that ambient display is useless.
I was thinking that whenever I got notification, the ambient display will lit the screen and then OFF ... then lit ... then OFF.
You know, kind of asking attention.
It is NOT.
It lit ONCE, then OFF forever, until I pick up the phone (of course).
The problem with this, if I leave the phone on my desk for quite long, I won't know if there was notification arrived, unless I pick up the phone.
So, what's the use of this ambient display?
Damn, LED notification would be much useful!
gogol said:
I found that ambient display is useless.
I was thinking that whenever I got notification, the ambient display will lit the screen and then OFF ... then lit ... then OFF.
You know, kind of asking attention.
It is NOT.
It lit ONCE, then OFF forever, until I pick up the phone (of course).
The problem with this, if I leave the phone on my desk for quite long, I won't know if there was notification arrived, unless I pick up the phone.
So, what's the use of this ambient display?
Damn, LED notification would be much useful!
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So you can either see the notification come in first time when it lights up. Or you can quickly pick the phone up to see if there are any notifications without it fully waking up.
LED is easier though!
I prefer they don't lit it on and off constantly because it is distracting when you are in a meeting and it drains your battery. Though having an option would be nice
Yeah, I agree it is a useless battery wasting feature (though the impact to battery is minimal). Thankfully the LED can be enabled with Light Flow even though that is flawed as well since the app will randomly get killed and the light won't work.
Ambient Display would be perfect if it flashed continuously until you check it and if it worked in priority mode, which it doesn't if you have priority mode set up like the old silent mode. If you don't want your phone making noise or vibrating but still need to see notifications it is pretty worthless.
you are dead on sir.
gogol said:
I found that ambient display is useless.
I was thinking that whenever I got notification, the ambient display will lit the screen and then OFF ... then lit ... then OFF.
You know, kind of asking attention.
It is NOT.
It lit ONCE, then OFF forever, until I pick up the phone (of course).
The problem with this, if I leave the phone on my desk for quite long, I won't know if there was notification arrived, unless I pick up the phone.
So, what's the use of this ambient display?
Damn, LED notification would be much useful!
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I was told Google is moving away from using led notification, but yet they designed a phone? with one built in but totally useless at this point. Hopefully the next update will address this.
Mine flashes continually until I check things... Every ten seconds or so. It is wonderful... Not sure what is up with your guys' one time notifications...
ambient display is alrite.... It doesn't work that well though. It does not consistently work when you pick up the phone. I would much rather have them activate the LED since it's already there.
you. me. and many more
tsy87 said:
ambient display is alrite.... It doesn't work that well though. It does not consistently work when you pick up the phone. I would much rather have them activate the LED since it's already there.
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I'm setting this gripe in many circles outside of xda hopefully they will address it in the next update. Lots of corporate people want that portion which was always a part of android and even non android phones of the past.
EmperorX said:
Mine flashes continually until I check things... Every ten seconds or so. It is wonderful... Not sure what is up with your guys' one time notifications...
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So does mine
vvveith said:
I was told Google is moving away from using led notification, but yet they designed a phone? with one built in but totally useless at this point. Hopefully the next update will address this.
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in all fairness, Moto made the phone, whether for Android Silver or whatever other reason, it wasnt designed ground up with Google or originally planned as a Nexus.
I like ambient. Works great for me. and being an Amoled display, only the pixels being used light up, so battery is minimal
users report otherwise.
CraigP17 said:
in all fairness, Moto made the phone, whether for Android Silver or whatever other reason, it wasnt designed ground up with Google or originally planned as a Nexus.
I like ambient. Works great for me. and being an Amoled display, only the pixels being used light up, so battery is minimal
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Acording to the battery threads I've read, ambient display sucks battery.
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So does mine
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What are you guys using? Lightflow?
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Acording to the battery threads I've read, ambient display sucks battery.
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Does the device wake up from deep sleep for it? If yes it sure does suck a lot of battery. Especially if it is supposed to flash up in intervals to remind you of the notification.
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What are you guys using? Lightflow?
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I just tested it... it flashes up every 30 seconds or so. As soon as as you click on it the screen is on without any delay. So I guess it screws your battery hard by making it wake up each time? It would mean that as soon as you have a notification your device would wake up every 30 seconds.
I can't get Lightflow to work at all. Do you need a kernel that has LED support?
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What are you guys using? Lightflow?
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I am just using the regular ambient feature built into the stock rom. I am encrypted, rooted with stock kernel on stock 5.0.1. I have not messed with any AOSP roms .
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I can't get Lightflow to work at all. Do you need a kernel that has LED support?
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Rooted and use root access for the LED activated in Lightflow.
Lightflow screws up ambient tough. It constantly flashes as if it has an notification, even if it only shows the clock. This WILL kill your battery in my opinion...
Led notification will drain batttery fast?
Via my NeXus™ 7FHD on XDA Premium app
I actually like it more than Active Display. Active was much more sensitive to movements which for really annoying.
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Alienfreak said:
Rooted and use root access for the LED activated in Lightflow.
Lightflow screws up ambient tough. It constantly flashes as if it has an notification, even if it only shows the clock. This WILL kill your battery in my opinion...
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I don't know what settings you set to make it do that.
Light Flow doesn't do that here. Cooperates fine with Ambient.
I know there are people (Lightflow Dev) who are working on getting the built-in led working, and I think that's great. I wonder if there are any devs working on making Ambient Display more useful...? I'm going to shut off the Ambient Display today and mess around with an app I used to use on the Galaxy S called NoLed. It puts dots or icons on the screen and could notify me of anything... might be the ticket here.
is there a way to stop the external ( peak screen ) from turning on so frequently, it seen too sensitive
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is there a way to stop the external ( peak screen ) from turning on so frequently, it seen too sensitive
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I agree it's a bit annoying compared to other Motorola models where Moto display at least can be set to quiet times. Last model I used where this function worked more smoothly was Moto Z4.
Already raised this to Motorola team as feedback, hopefully it can be fixed in upcoming software updates.
They don't give a f...
They persistently force users to use their own ****e version of AOD called Peek Display which is a total crap in practical usage. This damn thing used to light up every time I hit any bump while driving my car, I eventually had to turn this damn thing off!
Totally iritating, I'm really surprised they still implement this stuff in current form, and so few people complain.