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Thoughts on it, display in sunlight, battery life, handling of notifications, look/feel of it on your wrist..... basically anything to do with the watch!
i like it. granted that its a new class of its own, i still get confused especially when i get multiple notifications on an app (ie hangouts). its confusing where the group text starts or if im still being shown a private text..
the screen is kinda hard to read in direct sunlight but tilting it a bit or using a different watch face helps.
i like the feel of it.. i preferred this over the g watch coz of the added feature and the look.
I really like it; however, screen is difficult to see in sunlight at times; screen is also a smudge magnet which adds to difficulties in seeing the display outdoors.
Love it - compared to the sony smartwatch and the Galaxy Gear it really has great improvements. Only Day 2, but my initial thoughts:
Pros
- Look/feel - it is little large (I don't have big wrists) but still stylish.
- Screen: awesome that the clock is always on, this was my biggest gripe about the Gear
- Usefulness: I've spent time training Google Now, and that's really paid off. Notifications mean i take my phone out of my pocket a lot less, and Google Now surfaces reminders and other useful info pretty well (although you don't have a lot of control over the order of notifications etc). The fact that it syncs dismissed notifications on the phone immediately is, in a word, awesome
- Apps: early days yet on this, but most big apps I'm sure will integrate so you can do the key features easily
- Voice recognition works great so far
Cons
- No speaker means if you want to do stuff without looking at the screen with your voice, it's harder. But seems like something I can live with
- Charging dongle is kinda annoying to fit on, and have to remember to travel with
- Starting an app (say Fit) takes a few too many swipes (if you're in a place where you don't want to be speaking to your wrist...)
A lot of the other potential "cons" like not many watch face designs, no feature to locate your phone (I know there's an app for this though) I reckon will play out over time and Google can fix pretty quickly...
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, no feature to locate your phone (I know there's an app for this though) I reckon will play out over time and Google can fix pretty quickly...
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Take a look at this one for that: Wear Aware
i'm pleasantly surprised with how much i'm enjoying it.
my first full day with it will be tomorrow so i haven't taken it outside in the sunlight much yet, but checking email, counting steps, reading and replying to texts (i use evolve and it works great) is great and much more reliable and smoother than it was on my OG gear, and it's proving to be far more useful than my pebble.
the strap is actually quite comfortable and i'm glad i didn't buy a new strap before getting the watch.
the charging cradle, if you put it on tab side first it snaps in much easier. it's annoying but i haven't found it to be the spawn of lucifer as some people were screaming about it. treat it like part of a $200 gadget and it will be fine. mash it on like the hulk and it's going to break, it is plastic tabs after all.
i used it for about 7 hours today and it's now around 65% remaining. moderate use, but i def was clicking and swiping for no reason since it's new as well. i am pretty sure i'll have to charge it every night, but i don't sleep with a watch on and i charge my phone every night too, so i don't see it as being a big issue. my pebble lasted longer, but it would often die since i didn't have a set pattern on when to charge and would head out and a few hours later realize i had 20% left.
so in short, i'm happy, yes there are growing pains but those are the early adopter blues.
So far very please for what it can do. Regarding bot visible in sunlight, tell me what phone is visible in sunlight. None of them are great, only the kinfpdle due to the ink screen it has. I can wait till indoors or in shade. 9 more days testing and then deciding to keep or not. Off charging cradle at 6:30am today and as of this post still has 34% left. About the same as my previous Gear watch.
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The number of apps pouring in each day are a great sign for the platform as a whole. The Tizen gears were nothing like this.
Quick reply.... I like it. Had Nero, no comparison.
I've had a few issues and design factors that I'd like changed:
Hate the alarm mute icon. I would love to figure out a way to hide that on the clock face. Would make the watch look more watchie if you will.
Also would like to only wake the watch from the button vice touchscreen, or atleast an option to set that insettings.
Does anyone else find themselves open palming your watch to put it in hybernate?
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Does anyone else find themselves open palming your watch to put it in hybernate?
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I pressed it against my forehead earlier because I was in bed and my other arm wasn't free.
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I pressed it against my forehead earlier because I was in bed and my other arm wasn't free.
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This really made me LOL
I'll be the lone wolf in the wilderness by bucking the trend and saying that I'm very disappointed with my Gear Live. I'm a gadget lover and really wanted to love this device. But I was far more enthusiastic about this thing before I actually received it. Once I had one, I quickly grew disappointed with it.
Out of the box, pairing with my Nexus 5 took multiple attempts. Once I finally did get it paired, only the stock apps would work. Any apps that I downloaded from the Play store would run on my phone but the watch interface would never show up (no matter how many times I tried to force the apps to sync via the Android Wear app or rebooted the watch).
Factory resetting the watch and starting again cleared up that problem but I still found the functionality of the watch to be quirky at best. Add to that the fact that the screen is virtually impossible to read outdoors, the lack of support for continuous heart rate monitoring, and the sudden dramatic drop in my Nexus 5's battery life (which cleared up after I uninstalled the Android Wear app).
Bottom line for me is that this isn't ready to replace my old fashioned watch. So until I read about some new killer Wear app that I can't live without, the Gear Live had gone back into its box to be stored away. I'm hoping that the software will mature quickly to a point where I can give it another try.
Does gear live suport sleep monitoring? Can it automatically figure out that user is cycling?
How good is the fitness tracking on it?
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So I'm coming from a 5X that had a nice RGB LED, I was able to set different colors for different apps and could tell from across the room what if any notifications I had - no need to look at it for more than a second or 2 or pick it up or anything. I could then respond accordingly: White - email, probably just spam ignore it; Green - text, get to it when not busy; Pink - tinder, drop the baby and run for the phone.
With the x4 I seem to have taken a step backwards - the screen lights up with the clock and an icon for whatever notification (but I have to be standing right by the phone to see the specific icon). But the bigger issue is it only lights up once when the notification comes in - I really don't need to know I have a notification when it comes in (I heard the chime or vibrate) but I would love to be able to walk away from my phone, glance at it and know if I missed anything without having to pick it up. I'm not sure a world where I have to move my phone every time I come back to it could be considered convenient.
From what I have seen online it described the phone has breathing (pulsing every now and then) when you have an active notification, but this was earlier Moto models - I get just one notification at the time it comes in and nothing else ever. Unless I move the phone - which brings me to the 2nd issue, the sensitivity of the motion sensor, I can have the phone on my desk or couch cushion next to me and just placing a remote down near it or typing the phone is constantly lighting up (even when I don't have a notification) I have the Approach for Moto Display turned off and it definitely has to be moved, but just the tiniest of amount - I get the feature is designed for people that want to grab the phone to see the time and not have to turn it on, but there is a huge difference between the slight vibration from typing on a keyboard next to it vs. actually picking the thing up.
If Motorola/Lenovo is going to want people to embrace Moto Display at least make it so it isn't constantly flashing away for no reason.
Anyway are my experiences the norm? While I would love to be able to turn the motion sensor off for Moto Display my big issue is lack of persistent notification notifying without any interaction from me.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/themes/app-frontflash-notification-v1-7-t3740066
Yea, it's working "as intended". It was a poor choice really to disable the notification LED from the phone. I think it's fine on Amoled displays that can have the breathing without affecting battery life too much, but it's not the case here.
Although I generally like the high sensitivity of the Moto Display. I leave the aporoach feature disabled, and everytime I go by my phone when it's in a table or something I just push it slightly to check the notifications, it's way more convenient than to use the power button and gives more information than a RGB LED.
Thank you both, yes I did some more digging and seems like they did away with the 'breathing' feature.
I'll try that front flash app,
This whole thing just seems a little poorly thought out - disable the breathing so as not to reduce battery life, but make the user pickup the phone periodically which decreases battery life.
I get if they want to do something different than a notification LED but not everyone wants to pick up there phone every X minutes to see if they missed something.
Least I now know when it periodically turns on the Moto Display its not to remind of a current notification its just the stupid motion sensor being way to sensitive.
It is normal. In my opinion the Moto display on the new Moto are not as sensitive as older models like the Moto x pure. You were able to literally wave your hand over the screen to see notifications and time and battery level. However I still love the active display. But I also miss the notification light. But because of the active display they felt like their was no need for led notification. The Moto x4 is still a great handset with features that many people actually use like active display. I have used Samsung and Sony and lg and always had issues. Since the Moto x first came out and bought it I have never had issues with hardware or software. Sure the updates may take a lifetime however Motorola in my opinion is the bear handset for me in terms of quality. It helps tho that even with Android one or Nexus out their that Moto has almost near clean stock of Android than any other manufacturer.
I can see the argument for not needing a LED when MotoDisplay would 'breath' and periodically show the notifications, but now they have done away with that it seems like an LED would really help. That being said I am trying to adjust and get into the habit of nudging the phone when I come back to it.
Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Seems like it takes a lot of time to learn. I don't use it anyway I prefer having control on it
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Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Seems like a bug honestly, because it goes TOO LOW. I tried to lock the device several times to see if the "learning" of the slider improves, but it still goes back to the same spot... I'm gonna keep it deactivated until they fix it.
Android Pie has AI in basically everything and it learns for you, just keep adjusting the brightness manually and in a few days it'll know how you like your brightness and adjust it for you.
I care about to go low! And now I can't go below 19% with Adaptive ON, it's to high for a dark room.
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Seems like a bug honestly, because it goes TOO LOW. I tried to lock the device several times to see if the "learning" of the slider improves, but it still goes back to the same spot... I'm gonna keep it deactivated until they fix it.
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Actually I've been reading similar things about this on the pixel so it might just be the way it is. Might take long for it to learn. I read someone say it's always fun when he first unlocks it
And I found this link of people claiming it is like this the first few days until you train it better
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...daptive_brightness_work_for/#thing_t1_e3yv49m
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And I found this link of people claiming it is like this the first few days until you train it better
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...daptive_brightness_work_for/#thing_t1_e3yv49m
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Yeah it could be the new implementation of the AI, I'm gonna use it for a few days to see if it gets better
This has started happening to me since yesterday. I've been using Pie for a month now (December update). What I've noticed is that it goes down to about 25% every time I cover the brightness sensor with my finger (usually when watching YT) and it stays there no matter what. It's pretty annoying having to always adjust it like that. Using "Sensors Monitor" app I see that the sensor is working correctly so it's a software "feature".
Any suggestions on how to mitigate it besides using "Velis Auto Brightness" app?
How do we know its 'AI'? Has it 'adapted' for anyone till now? That brings us tk the question, what was wrong with Auto Brightness in Oreo? Just because there's piece of code that's new, doesn't mean its versatile.
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How do we know its 'AI'? Has it 'adapted' for anyone till now? That brings us tk the question, what was wrong with Auto Brightness in Oreo? Just because there's piece of code that's new, doesn't mean its versatile.
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Three words.
Mar ket ing
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Three words.
Mar ket ing
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Yeah, and some of us would be fixing what was intentionally broke. Interesting, what would Android be without the community working as the underdog?
Oh, and AI (its Computational Intelligence) is the new cheaper, efficient corporate slave working to enslave the many.
So iam now 3 days in with the S10 plus and i have to say that while theres lots i love about it , iam also disappointed. Here are my complaints thus far..... I pray some of these can and will be fixed with a software update.
1 - Camera, Yes its pretty good but i expected more. No better then the S9 imo. Expected a little more from Samsung with regards the camera this year.
2 - Kepad touch issues..... I virtually cannot type on this phone without constantly and accidentally hitting the 'p' key. I do not have chubby hands or anything but whenever i need to reach across to the left side of the keypad , iam forever hitting that 'p' key and it drives me crazy to the point where i may return the phone.
3 - No notification LED - This wouldnt be a deal breaker if Edge lighting worked properly but Edge lighting is pretty damn poor lets be honest. Works fine for default messaging app but thats about it.
4 - Fingerprint scanner - Was awful initially but improved massively once i removed the pre-installed screen protector and added a second fingerprint using the same finger. However, I still find that it occasionally fails to read my fingerprint. I feel like iam placing my thumb in the right area given that the icon lights up to help me but somehow it still sometimes fails. I would say it works around 80% of the time
5 - Fast Charging - Again i expected more. Its not slow but its not fast either. It takes around 1hr 45 mins to get from 15% - 100%
For me personally i would be happy if they could improve the keypad and fingerprint issue but theres already been updates and not much has changed.
You mention keypad, are you talking about the keyboard? If so just use another keyboard.
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You mention keypad, are you talking about the keyboard? If so just use another keyboard.
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Tried another keyboard but same issue! Its the curved display ultimately thats the issue i guess not the keyboard. Although i also owned an S8 and S9 Plus and neither of them had this issue!
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Tried another keyboard but same issue! Its the curved display ultimately thats the issue i guess not the keyboard. Although i also owned an S8 and S9 Plus and neither of them had this issue!
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Yea, that is odd. I sometimes fat finger but never that way, mine seems to be i and 8.
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Yea, that is odd. I sometimes fat finger but never that way, mine seems to be i and 8.
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Ha When i reach over to the left edge of the display to type, my skin hits the 'p' key. Its absolutely driving me insane ha
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Tried another keyboard but same issue! Its the curved display ultimately thats the issue i guess not the keyboard. Although i also owned an S8 and S9 Plus and neither of them had this issue!
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You can modify the size of the keyboard for this very reason, move it up or down until you can use it comfortably.
You can also modify the curve display deadzone with goodlock.
I'm also surprised that AOD doesn't fill the void of a notification led.. it certainly does for me.. In saying that I would like to see a notification ring around the camera cutout, I think that would of been a nice touch.
I agree with you on everything you mentioned.
I would add one more thing regarding accidental touches, I am a skinny guy, and so are my hands, but whenever I am reaching to other side of the screen, I find the screen either not responding to my touches or causing accidental touches, what drives me crazy is that I check the palm of my hand and almost always it's not even touching the edge of the screen, it's as if even when your skin is hovering few mm above the edge if the screen the phone will take it as if your actually touching it, if that makes sense.
As for the camera, coming from the Note 9, I am so disappointed with the low light capabilities of this phone, even indoors it's not up to par with other flagships, I even get worse shots than my previous Note 9 and S9. To make matters worse, Samsung didn't include a propper night mode that can compete with Huawei's night mode or the Pixel's night sight.
Sorry for my bad English, I hope I was clear enough in delivering my point. Cheers.
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So iam now 3 days in with the S10 plus and i have to say that while theres lots i love about it , iam also disappointed. Here are my complaints thus far..... I pray some of these can and will be fixed with a software update.
1 - Camera, Yes its pretty good but i expected more. No better then the S9 imo. Expected a little more from Samsung with regards the camera this year.
2 - Kepad touch issues..... I virtually cannot type on this phone without constantly and accidentally hitting the 'p' key. I do not have chubby hands or anything but whenever i need to reach across to the left side of the keypad , iam forever hitting that 'p' key and it drives me crazy to the point where i may return the phone.
3 - No notification LED - This wouldnt be a deal breaker if Edge lighting worked properly but Edge lighting is pretty damn poor lets be honest. Works fine for default messaging app but thats about it.
4 - Fingerprint scanner - Was awful initially but improved massively once i removed the pre-installed screen protector and added a second fingerprint using the same finger. However, I still find that it occasionally fails to read my fingerprint. I feel like iam placing my thumb in the right area given that the icon lights up to help me but somehow it still sometimes fails. I would say it works around 80% of the time
5 - Fast Charging - Again i expected more. Its not slow but its not fast either. It takes around 1hr 45 mins to get from 15% - 100%
For me personally i would be happy if they could improve the keypad and fingerprint issue but theres already been updates and not much has changed.
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Have you tried disabling Touch Sensitivity? I had some issues at first, but after disabling touch sensitivity, it improved a bit.
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So iam now 3 days in with the S10 plus and i have to say that while theres lots i love about it , iam also disappointed. Here are my complaints thus far..... I pray some of these can and will be fixed with a software update.
1 - Camera, Yes its pretty good but i expected more. No better then the S9 imo. Expected a little more from Samsung with regards the camera this year.
2 - Kepad touch issues..... I virtually cannot type on this phone without constantly and accidentally hitting the 'p' key. I do not have chubby hands or anything but whenever i need to reach across to the left side of the keypad , iam forever hitting that 'p' key and it drives me crazy to the point where i may return the phone.
3 - No notification LED - This wouldnt be a deal breaker if Edge lighting worked properly but Edge lighting is pretty damn poor lets be honest. Works fine for default messaging app but thats about it.
4 - Fingerprint scanner - Was awful initially but improved massively once i removed the pre-installed screen protector and added a second fingerprint using the same finger. However, I still find that it occasionally fails to read my fingerprint. I feel like iam placing my thumb in the right area given that the icon lights up to help me but somehow it still sometimes fails. I would say it works around 80% of the time
5 - Fast Charging - Again i expected more. Its not slow but its not fast either. It takes around 1hr 45 mins to get from 15% - 100%
For me personally i would be happy if they could improve the keypad and fingerprint issue but theres already been updates and not much has changed.
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The S10 does have a Multi Colored Notification LED around it's camera cutout. This YouTube video explains how to activate and manage it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/b0p0o6/s10_s10_how_to_enable_led_notification_light/
Try using a light touch on the fingerprint display reader as opposed to a hard press, this is how it's designed to function.
The S10 Camera has a Pro Mode, you can adjust virtual any aspect of photos to your preference.
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The S10 does have a Multi Colored Notification LED around it's camera cutout. This YouTube video explains how to activate and manage it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/b0p0o6/s10_s10_how_to_enable_led_notification_light/
Try using a light touch on the fingerprint display reader as opposed to a hard press, this is how it's designed to function.
The S10 Camera has a Pro Mode, you can adjust virtual any aspect of photos to your preference.
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That notification is from using a 3rd party app and a light touch with the screen protector hasn't worked too well.
I am the same my main issue is the led notification for WhatsApp
Already thinking of going back to my old s8
Keyboard I am also having issues with clicking on the wrong keys
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I am the same my main issue is the led notification for WhatsApp
Already thinking of going back to my old s8
Keyboard I am also having issues with clicking on the wrong keys
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I contacted Samsung about the keyboard issue! All they suggest is to leave feedback. If your using the stock keyboard then it can be resized which i guess kinda is a solution but you have to bring it in from both sides to keep it centered and the keyboard then winds up been a tad too small so its not ideal! Its weird because my s9 plus was almost identical in terms of its dimensions yet it did not have this issue.
fingerprint scanner has also been a nightmare today! I could swear iam not doing anything different yet it works sometimes and rejects me other times. Its makin me miss the finger print scanner on the s9. It was so much better. Another small annoyance is how fast my battery goes from 100% to 99% lol
Battery in general is great but i charge it to 100%, Unplug it and seconds later iam at 99% .......... what the fudge ha
I used an iphone xs temporarily recently and i have to say that while it is over priced and in general Samsung is much better and cheaper too. However, Apple does things properly. It worked flawlessly and never gave issue. The Samsung is far better on paper and ticks all the boxes but in day to day use its just not as 'perfect'
Greetings,
Just received a used device and noticed my unit won't physically lower in brightness at around 25 percent. What I mean is that at around the 25 percent mark, I am unable to perceive it getting any lower when set at a lower percentage. I've also noticed that when I have the brightness at a high percentage and then quickly lower it to the minimum, that the display will at first be quite dim then will suddenly raise itself to a slightly brighter minimum. I do not have auto brightness on, nor any filter apps active while testing. Just wondering if this issue is isolated to my device. Thank you for reading my concern. If anything is unclear, I could try taking a video of the issues. Anyone else with these issues? I've searched the web to no avail.
i just bought a used device as well and mine has the same issues. the backlight seems to flicker on the second screen at low brightness and below about half the second screen is noticably dimmer. its unfortunate that they didn't put a lot of effort into the screen software or quality considering its the main gimmick of this phone, but it is made by ZTE after all. the price you probably paid for one of these things is a lot more representative of the quality than the original MSRP. But its still a fun gimmick even with all the flaws.
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i just bought a used device as well and mine has the same issues. the backlight seems to flicker on the second screen at low brightness and below about half the second screen is noticably dimmer. its unfortunate that they didn't put a lot of effort into the screen software or quality considering its the main gimmick of this phone, but it is made by ZTE after all. the price you probably paid for one of these things is a lot more representative of the quality than the original MSRP. But its still a fun gimmick even with all the flaws.
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Thanks for your thoughts and input. Yeah this is quite unfortunate on how the phone turned out. I also see the flicker on the second display. But as you mentioned, the device is indeed quite fun. I'm actually thoroughly enjoying the device especially with books and comics reading in the extended mode. I tend to do some late night reading, so that was the reason why I brought up the display issue as I had wanted to get the display as dim as possible before applying a filter. Hopefully one day we'll get root to check out if we can lower the display minimum brightness level along with other lower level system modifications.
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Thanks for your thoughts and input. Yeah this is quite unfortunate on how the phone turned out. I also see the flicker on the second display. But as you mentioned, the device is indeed quite fun. I'm actually thoroughly enjoying the device especially with books and comics reading in the extended mode. I tend to do some late night reading, so that was the reason why I brought up the display issue as I had wanted to get the display as dim as possible before applying a filter. Hopefully one day we'll get root to check out if we can lower the display minimum brightness level along with other lower level system modifications.
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apparently a few weeks ago someone released TWRP for this device. its not quite a root but it still gives you root access to change the build.prop and some low level system settings. TWRP is the sign that there is some kind of development happening but i wouldn't hedge your bets on anybody fixing the screen issues even with some kind of kernel modification
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apparently a few weeks ago someone released TWRP for this device. its not quite a root but it still gives you root access to change the build.prop and some low level system settings. TWRP is the sign that there is some kind of development happening but i wouldn't hedge your bets on anybody fixing the screen issues even with some kind of kernel modification
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That is definitely a most welcome update. I'm curious on what build your device is on since you mentioned having similar issues to mine. I am on b30 myself and will be flashing to b37 when I get a chance to see if there are any differences.