[Q] Google Play Music; Flashing ROMS; Too many authorized devices! - OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers

I have a big problem I am hoping some other fellow flashing know how to deal with. I recently had to contact Google support because I had too many authorized devices in my Google Play Music. They did a 1 time courtesy removal of all devices. Not something I want to have to do again and being a 1 time courtesy I don't know that they will do it again....
As many of you may know you can only authorize 10 devices per account and only DE-authorize 4 per year...WTF?
The problem I have is I only actually have 3 devices but everytime I flash a ROM Google Play Music marks it as a new device. So my account had my Mac, 7 OnePlus Ones and 2 Oneplus3T's authorized.
I'm trying to figure out a way to avoid this problem again. After having them remove all devices just a few weeks ago I already have 4 new authorized devices. Not cool.
For a while I was using Titanium backup to restore app/data of JUST the Play Music app. I absolutely hate restoring system data so this is not ideal and depending on the ROM the restore often fails . So I created an update.zip that I can flash in recovery but then it often boots with Play Music still not installed.
How do you guys deal with this problem? It has become very aggravating and I pay $15.92 a month for our Google Play Music family subscription and I would really like to retain the ability to actually use it.
Any ideas?

GrandMasterB said:
I have a big problem I am hoping some other fellow flashing know how to deal with. I recently had to contact Google support because I had too many authorized devices in my Google Play Music. They did a 1 time courtesy removal of all devices. Not something I want to have to do again and being a 1 time courtesy I don't know that they will do it again....
As many of you may know you can only authorize 10 devices per account and only DE-authorize 4 per year...WTF?
The problem I have is I only actually have 3 devices but everytime I flash a ROM Google Play Music marks it as a new device. So my account had my Mac, 7 OnePlus Ones and 2 Oneplus3T's authorized.
I'm trying to figure out a way to avoid this problem again. After having them remove all devices just a few weeks ago I already have 4 new authorized devices. Not cool.
For a while I was using Titanium backup to restore app/data of JUST the Play Music app. I absolutely hate restoring system data so this is not ideal and depending on the ROM the restore often fails . So I created an update.zip that I can flash in recovery but then it often boots with Play Music still not installed.
How do you guys deal with this problem? It has become very aggravating and I pay $15.92 a month for our Google Play Music family subscription and I would really like to retain the ability to actually use it.
Any ideas?
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You go into Google play music and go to settings scroll down and click on manage devices. It will only manage your linked email.

cameljockey1 said:
You go into Google play music and go to settings scroll down and click on manage devices. It will only manage your linked email.
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Thank you for the reply.... but you lost me. I know how to deauthorize devices. The problem is Googles hard limit on only being able to deauthorize 4 per year.
I'm looking for a way to stop Google Play Music from thinking its a new device every time I flash a new ROM.

GrandMasterB said:
Thank you for the reply.... but you lost me. I know how to deauthorize devices. The problem is Googles hard limit on only being able to deauthorize 4 per year.
I'm looking for a way to stop Google Play Music from thinking its a new device every time I flash a new ROM.
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Well every time I flash a ROM I never restore the data of the music app. I haven't had your issue before. I just deauthorize when I get a new phone. Never had to do it for each ROM.

Restoring the app used to.solve this issue for me. But lately it always gets recognised as a new device
Anyone found a solution?
Like restoring device ID etc?

candiesdoodle said:
Restoring the app used to.solve this issue for me. But lately it always gets recognised as a new device
Anyone found a solution?
Like restoring device ID etc?
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As of Oreo, you can no longer change or restore the Android ID. See https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/04/changes-to-device-identifiers-in.html
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BillGoss said:
As of Oreo, you can no longer change or restore the Android ID. See https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/04/changes-to-device-identifiers-in.html
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Wow this is helpful
So Android ID is different for each app. So how does play music app keep track of the device? Because even though the serial number is same, it still gets recognised as a new device? I tried keeping ro.buid.fingerprint same as well.
Could it be the GSF id?

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[Q] Help. Android market wants me to rebuy applications i already bought on my phone

I already own an android phone and bought a bunch of applications. I just rooted and installed the market on my nook using the same email address that is on my phone. For some reason the market on my nook wont let me download my paid apps without buying them again. Does anyone know how to fix this?
I tried redoing it and I have the same problem. Does this happen to anyone else? Does everyone else have access to their paid apps without having to pay for them again?
I didn't have to rebuy my apps. But market has been updated since I installed them. Maybe a newer version of market changed something.
It really doesn't make any sense. Its definitely the same account. It has my credit card information filled out already. I even tried buying an app i bought previously, just to see if that would jog it. It didn't work. It charged me and i had to refund it. I really don't know what else to try.
Nope, all of mine show up as "Purchased". Every time this question comes up it's always usage of the same account, but you say that's already been checked..
Good luck.
Thanks. It has to be the same acount or else all of my redit card information wouldn't bebon there. All of my android market reciepts go to this accout also.
Try visiting this page https://market.android.com/account and see a list of your purchased apps.
Standalone web site should be more reliable, than an app, hacked in a stock firmware, which kinda doesn't support google apps.
dalkor said:
Try visiting this page https://market.android.com/account and see a list of your purchased apps.
Standalone web site should be more reliable, than an app, hacked in a stock firmware, which kinda doesn't support google apps.
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Now I'm more worried. The site you linked to doesn't have any record of my purchases either. My google checkout account under the same name, however, does have records of all of my purchases. Have any idea what i should do now?
did you paid the app with credit card or by carrier billing? Maybe it change something?
onclebob said:
did you paid the app with credit card or by carrier billing? Maybe it change something?
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I always pay with credit card.
Does google have some form of actual support other than the forum?
I have nookie froyo on her now. Same exact problem. This is bull**** and definitely on googles end. When are they going to get a customer support line? I've never seen another company that charges actually money like google does in the market without having a customer support line. I'm sure whatever is causing this will cause problems if I ever get another android phone in the future.
Having the same trouble here
What kind of android phone do you have? Is it using a custom rom? I'm thinking that the problem isn't with the nook at all. It's with our other devices not registering with the market properly.
It's as I suspected. I flashed my phone back to stock and I can't redownload any applications either. My whole market account got wiped somehow.
same issue here, totally different tablet BTW (samsung galaxy tab). Same thing - I wiped and flashed a ROM (ironically, same ROM!) and afterwards all my paid apps are being asked to repurchase when I hit install. Similarly in the web market it says I don't own any apps....
I am able ot restore my apps via titanium and hilariously all licence checks for programs that implement them e.g. titanium, worms etc. continue to work thank god but Goog better fix this sh-t real quick. I have >50 paid apps so this is really really bugging me out (plus now I'm afraid to do any more flashing/tweaking)
Do you have the backup, OP?
If so, just run it instead of redownload from Play
Sure you used the same google account?
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Google music outside the US, now even easier!

With all the negativity about google music not being available in the UK, or outside the US in general, i figured this may be good news for some here.
I'm not sure if this has been covered before or not so here goes.
I basically found a way to get the google music service working in the UK, no fake google accounts, settings to change or anything like that is needed here at all.
If you just try and go to music.google.com from outside the US you normally get a message saying it's unavailable so here i tell you how to get around this for quick and easy access to the ability to store 20000 songs for free.
1. Go to www.unblock-us.com and sign up for a free 7 day trial by giving them your email address. This site is great for also accessing other US content such as US netflix and all sorts of other things outside the US (I actually subscribe to this service as i think it's brilliant, others may not want to do so).
2. Update your DNS settings on your computer/laptop/router as per the guides on the above site.
3. Once up and running on the Unblock-US DNS, fire up your favourite browser and go to music.google.com and sign in. NOTE you will no longer get the message saying it's for users in the US only.
4. Set up Google music, download the music manager to your computer and start uploading music.
5. You can now remove the Unblock-US DNS settings and go back to using your normal settings. Your Google account will still work even if using a non US internet connection and you will be able to access the Google music site from any computer.
6. Enjoy Google music anywhere, on any connection.
Please hit the thanks button if this helps.
Rik.
You can also use the TOR browser, keep refreshing until you have a US based proxy then just navigate to Google music and register your account. Once you've registered you can use Google music anywhere (normal browser, android app, etc)
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aindow said:
I'm not sure if this has been covered before or not so here goes.
I basically found a way to get the google music service working in the UK, no fake google accounts, settings to change or anything like that is needed here at all.
If you just try and go to music.google.com from outside the US you normally get a message saying it's unavailable so here i tell you how to get around this for quick and easy access to the ability to store 20000 songs for free.
1. Go to www.unblock-us.com and sign up for a free 7 day trial by giving them your email address. This site is great for also accessing other US content such as US netflix and all sorts of other things outside the US (I actually subscribe to this service as i think it's brilliant, others may not want to do so).
2. Update your DNS settings on your computer/laptop/router as per the guides on the above site.
3. Once up and running on the Unblock-US DNS, fire up your favourite browser and go to music.google.com and sign in. NOTE you will no longer get the message saying it's for users in the US only.
4. Set up Google music, download the music manager to your computer and start uploading music.
5. You can now remove the Unblock-US DNS settings and go back to using your normal settings. Your Google account will still work even if using a non US internet connection and you will be able to access the Google music site from any computer.
6. Enjoy Google music anywhere, on any connection.
Please hit the thanks button if this helps.
Rik.
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You can do all of that using way simpler methods via Hotspot Shield or a web based proxy (e.g. hidemyass.com).
I'm pretty sure this subject has been covered before here on XDA, but thanks anyway. :good:
Had access for a while, been able to do this since the day it launched. I even managed to get some of the free music.
As someone who occasionally buys music (I know some must think I'm mad to pay for it) I'd like the option of being able to use the store. Its no problem though i just buy elsewhere and let my PC add it.
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I'd probably see if tunlr.net works first.. no point in paying for something you can get free.
I wish google would start rolling out some of this stuff.. they put all these features into jelly bean then when you run the OS you get the same old..
I used tunnelbear a few weeks back. Was a painless installation, adequate speeds since I just had to accept the google music terms and conditions, painless removal from my computer and I was up and running with google music in 5 minutes or less.
when I was signing up I just used a SSH tunnel to a (virtual)server I rent in the US worked fine.
I would also like the ability to be able to actually purchase music from the google store, my music collection is in dire need of an update.
Is it also possible to get google magazines and google books working?
Google music is up and running at my phone for about 5 months now.
Market Unlocker is the easiest in my opinion. Pro version fetches proxy automatically and all you have to do is turn it on.
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I also used TunnelBear. Really easy and quick to setup. I had tried the Tor browser before but didn't have any joy. So I recommend TunnelBear.
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Yes, +1 for tunnel bear. Tor browser only ever set my location to anonymous proxy. Funnily enough Google wasn't fooled!
brb123 said:
Is it also possible to get google magazines and google books working?
Google music is up and running at my phone for about 5 months now.
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The apps themselves work, but whenever I try to make purchases, it tells me that I need a US credit/debit card
But I have been trying to get hold of some prepaid voucher american/canadian visas in order to counter this, but there don't seem to be any available to buy online.
So if any Americans fancy going to a local store for me and buying a couple, please do (will pay obviously...:cyclops
AleT said:
Yes, +1 for tunnel bear. Tor browser only ever set my location to anonymous proxy. Funnily enough Google wasn't fooled!
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wow! thanks. i installed tunnel bear, registered in google music and then uninstaled tunnel bear and it works!
i'm in portugal using Google Music
thanks!
is there a chance that once Google Music comes to the UK, users who used this work around could be affected from not using the UK service?
twistedh said:
The apps themselves work, but whenever I try to make purchases, it tells me that I need a US credit/debit card
But I have been trying to get hold of some prepaid voucher american/canadian visas in order to counter this, but there don't seem to be any available to buy online.
So if any Americans fancy going to a local store for me and buying a couple, please do (will pay obviously...:cyclops
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I bought some music the other day with my Aussie credit card. I set a US address (hint: look up real estate sites for a genuine address ) and set this as my default shipping and billing address. You have to do this in http://wallet.google.com prior to logging on to http://music.google.com. Remember to reset this for your regular purchases through the Play Store.
I've had Google Music in Canada for months now. Used super hide ip and signed up.
I'm unsure if it's harder to sign up now then it was when I signed up.
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Music uploaded not showing on tablet
Hi guys
I have a problem with this process. I used Tunnel Bear and i was able to install Music Manager without a glitch. As i type this my music library is uploading at a steady rate. I live in Spain (where the Nexus is available since just a couple of days, although no music service so far) but bought the Nexus 7 trough a friend in Canada a few weeks ago (could not wait, ha). The Google Music app is, therefore, preinstalled, but my music so far is not showing at all. There`s only a message to use USB to transfer music locally. I did try to sideload the app, but it did not make any difference. Same result rebooting the tablet. Nothing showing. So far i have about 100+ songs uploaded, but there`s nothing to show for in my tablet. Surely i`m doing something wrong?
sith1970 said:
Hi guys
I have a problem with this process. I used Tunnel Bear and i was able to install Music Manager without a glitch. As i type this my music library is uploading at a steady rate. I live in Spain (where the Nexus is available since just a couple of days, although no music service so far) but bought the Nexus 7 trough a friend in Canada a few weeks ago (could not wait, ha). The Google Music app is, therefore, preinstalled, but my music so far is not showing at all. There`s only a message to use USB to transfer music locally. I did try to sideload the app, but it did not make any difference. Same result rebooting the tablet. Nothing showing. So far i have about 100+ songs uploaded, but there`s nothing to show for in my tablet. Surely i`m doing something wrong?
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Got the exact same problem! Not working on nexus 7 with preinstalled music.app but its working on my galaxy s2 using the music.apk provided by xda!
Any solutions? Would be great to be able to use the app on nexus 7!
Just picked up my Nexus 7 today on launch day in Holland and will definitely be trying any of the aforementioned options.
Thanks so much for the valuable info.
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Dainemeid said:
Got the exact same problem! Not working on nexus 7 with preinstalled music.app but its working on my galaxy s2 using the music.apk provided by xda!
Any solutions? Would be great to be able to use the app on nexus 7!
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Have you both tried clearing the app data in settings? That should fix it
BTW, +1 for tunnel bear. I was trying for over an hour using various proxys, none worked. This did it in 2 mins. Got over 2 thousand songs on now, not even a 1/3 of the way through......

I have a EVA-AL00 arriving tomorrow...what do I need to know?

Ok, so I bought a P9 ( EVA-AL00 ) since I've always been a fan of Leica products, and I'm a hobbyist photographer. First off, I currently use an iPhone 5s for the last 2 months, and before that was using a OnePlus One, and before that an iPhone 5c and Blackberry Passport, so I've had a variety ogf phones over the last 2 years. I'm not into hacking, or unlocking or locking bootloaders and that type of thing, which is why I generally like Apple products, as they just seem to work out of the box. I'm leaving my 5s because the screen is too small, and I like what the P9 offers for the money, at a cheaper price point than an iPhone 6s. And the Leica optics.
So, having said that, what do I need to know once I get the phone tomorrow? Any critical or important tips or tricks? Again, I'm not into anything complicated when it comes to phones like rooting, etc... I'm in Canada and my Carrier is Bell. My ANdroid experience has been with the OnePlus One I used for a while, and I was generally pleased with it.
Thanks
Ok, so phone arrived. I made a mistake. It's a EVA-DL00.
It's running EVA-DL00C17B163, and I'm currently updating to 168. This is a CHinese version of the phone, from my understanding. I'm using it in English, but some things are still in Chinese. Is there any way to to flash with other software to make it all English?
najibs said:
Is there any way to to flash with other software to make it all English?
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Welcome to the club
I recently bought the EVA-L10 (Chinese Dual-Sim, "premium" version, 4G/64G) while in Shanghai, and I have the same "problem" as you.
Basically since Google is not available in China, the phones sold in China don't come with Google Android framework, they use a "non-google Android", based of the official Android.
So, to your question, will it be possible to flash another firmware over your phones firmware? I say Yes, however at the same time I'm lying, because I'm also looking for this firmware for my phone, but if someone posts a EVA-L29 Firmware somewhere on the Interweb, I'm most certain this firmware will work on my phone and should also work on yours (might require bootloader unlock and root, but so what..).
But the phone is, chinese apps or not, awesome
/S
You can install Google stuff. Just download the Google Play store from the Huawei store, and then have at 'er installing all the normal Google Play apps that you want. That's what I'm currently doing. I just want to get rid of all the Chinese stuff on the phone. ALso, switch the keyboard to the regular Android one in the settings.
r0bb3r said:
Welcome to the club
I recently bought the EVA-L10 (Chinese Dual-Sim, "premium" version, 4G/64G) while in Shanghai, and I have the same "problem" as you.
Basically since Google is not available in China, the phones sold in China don't come with Google Android framework, they use a "non-google Android", based of the official Android.
So, to your question, will it be possible to flash another firmware over your phones firmware? I say Yes, however at the same time I'm lying, because I'm also looking for this firmware for my phone, but if someone posts a EVA-L29 Firmware somewhere on the Interweb, I'm most certain this firmware will work on my phone and should also work on yours (might require bootloader unlock and root, but so what..).
But the phone is, chinese apps or not, awesome
/S
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najibs said:
You can install Google stuff. Just download the Google Play store from the Huawei store, and then have at 'er installing all the normal Google Play apps that you want. That's what I'm currently doing. I just want to get rid of all the Chinese stuff on the phone. ALso, switch the keyboard to the regular Android one in the settings.
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Hi!
Of course, but there are still some applications that are "System Applications" that you cant get rid of, like HiCare, HiApp, .. etc. and if you are in a country using special characters like ü or åäö, these are not rendered correct in the Mail app (shows up as chinese chars).
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najibs said:
You can install Google stuff. Just download the Google Play store from the Huawei store, and then have at 'er installing all the normal Google Play apps that you want. That's what I'm currently doing. I just want to get rid of all the Chinese stuff on the phone. ALso, switch the keyboard to the regular Android one in the settings.
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Have you checked out the contacts yet, .. did you manage to sync contacts from your Google account? Because my contacts from google dont show up in the Huawei built in "Contacts" App (which is also used by the dialer). Only contacts from Skype, LinkedIn, WeChat etc. are shown.
r0bb3r said:
Have you checked out the contacts yet, .. did you manage to sync contacts from your Google account? Because my contacts from google dont show up in the Huawei built in "Contacts" App (which is also used by the dialer). Only contacts from Skype, LinkedIn, WeChat etc. are shown.
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No, I haven't. I'm also trying to figure out how to do that also! Let me know if you find out.
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Hi!
Because my contacts from google dont show up in the Huawei built in "Contacts" App (which is also used by the dialer). Only contacts from Skype, LinkedIn, WeChat etc. are shown.
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I wrote a guide for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66874141&postcount=14
Milamber said:
I wrote a guide for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66874141&postcount=14
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works like a charm! thank you sir! [emoji1]
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Hi,
I also bought a P9 ( EVA-AL00 ) last June, and currently i'm having an issue.
Usually i don't have games on my phone, or almost none, but some days ago, i wanted to install Heartstone on my P9. When downloading , at about 85%, sometimes 9x% (once it reached 100%) suddently it pops out from Google Play, and don't install the game. I tried also with other games and it happens the same. It doesn't happens with every game, i tested sucessfully with Stack and Sokoban
I have plenty of free space on phone and several applications installed (no Google Play issue, i think).
After i received the phone, i download the Google services/play store APK without issues. I deactivated the chinese bloatware, with no issues. Once Google Play installed, i downloaded all other Google Apps i use and others without issues...well there is an issue i had with RT app. It installed ok, but sometimes when i want to open it, i have to try several times to open it... I click on icon but closes.
Have someone here with EVA-AL00 having this issue also?
Thanks!
Khav said:
Hi,
I also bought a P9 ( EVA-AL00 ) last June, and currently i'm having an issue.
Usually i don't have games on my phone, or almost none, but some days ago, i wanted to install Heartstone on my P9. When downloading , at about 85%, sometimes 9x% (once it reached 100%) suddently it pops out from Google Play, and don't install the game. I tried also with other games and it happens the same. It doesn't happens with every game, i tested sucessfully with Stack and Sokoban
I have plenty of free space on phone and several applications installed (no Google Play issue, i think).
After i received the phone, i download the Google services/play store APK without issues. I deactivated the chinese bloatware, with no issues. Once Google Play installed, i downloaded all other Google Apps i use and others without issues...well there is an issue i had with RT app. It installed ok, but sometimes when i want to open it, i have to try several times to open it... I click on icon but closes.
Have someone here with EVA-AL00 having this issue also?
Thanks!
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Go to Settings->Apps->Play Store->Permissions and grant storage permission to it.
erayrafet said:
Go to Settings->Apps->Play Store->Permissions and grant storage permission to it.
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Bingo!! It works like a charm!!
I had every permission activated on Play Store , except this one. Never though about this, since i already did installed several apps and those games i tested.
Thank you!!
Cheers!
r0bb3r said:
Welcome to the club
Basically since Google is not available in China, the phones sold in China don't come with Google Android framework, they use a "non-google Android", based of the official Android.
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I just bought the non-carrier specific 3G / 32G Chinese version (EVA AL00) P9 when I was in Guangzhou last week and had to do the following after coming back home to get it to work with google and sync with two google accounts.
1. Install Google Play Store from HiApp and sign in with first google account.
2. Make sure to give Google Play Store permission to access storage, otherwise large apps won't install.
3. Download apk of Google Contacts Sync from APKMirror
4. Download apk of Google Calendar Sync from APKMirror
5. Use the browser on the phone to download these two apk files and follow the instruction on the phone to install them.
Sorry I'm not allowed to post outside links yet, however google search keywords like Google Contacts Sync APK will turn up the download links.
6. Since the phone still did not allow me to add a second google account in Settings -> Accounts -> Add Account, I had to install Youtube and use the Add Account in Youtube to add a second google account.
After these steps, I was able to sync contacts and calendar events with both google accounts and install apps from Play Store.
Hi, I too recently purchased a Huawei P9 EVA- AL00 , my issue is that I cannot source the Drivers for this model and I have searched the web on several occasions and several web sites? I am trying to unblock the bootloader so I can change over to English version. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sea Angler said:
Hi, I too recently purchased a Huawei P9 EVA- AL00 , my issue is that I cannot source the Drivers for this model and I have searched the web on several occasions and several web sites? I am trying to unblock the bootloader so I can change over to English version. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development/tools-srk-tool-useful-toos-lg-root-twrp-t3079076

Confused about restore / PLay Store vs. Samsung

When doing a factory reset, it asks about restoring apps, etc. I check yes.
Then it seems it's doing it again through Samsung when I login to Samsung during setup.
Are redundant restores happening? Should I should one and not the other?
Any thoughts?
Yes they are basically redundant. I do both to restore as much data as possible and save myself some effort setting everything back up.
I use both also, often feel I'm wasting time but who knows.
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its all about freshness.
so appart from apps, one thing samsung offers that goofle dosent is if u use stock launcher, homescreen layout and wallpaper and aod get restored. same goes for keyboard and related custom data associated to it if you use stock input.
wifi and bluetooth pairings would also be restored too, not to mention alarms also.
So in essence if one believes their next device is going to be another Samsung then perhaps best disable most if not all of the Google backup and restore options? If anything perhaps more added battery life perhaps.
bober10113 said:
its all about freshness.
so appart from apps, one thing samsung offers that goofle dosent is if u use stock launcher, homescreen layout and wallpaper and aod get restored. same goes for keyboard and related custom data associated to it if you use stock input.
wifi and bluetooth pairings would also be restored too, not to mention alarms also.
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Limeybastard said:
So in essence if one believes their next device is going to be another Samsung then perhaps best disable most if not all of the Google backup and restore options? If anything perhaps more added battery life perhaps.
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well knowing google, apps are tagged from the playstore as being installed.( app library vs installed).so backups arent done on/from your device. when restoring they check last device ID and match the associated installed app from your library.
anyways thats what i think. so all in all not sure if disabling it would help or not.
BUT again, its all about the freshness.
which service offers the very last apps you installed?
but one thing to rhink about is: samsung will restore google play and samsung store apps.
where as whit Google, i think would only restore playstore apps(since they just check playstore library associated to device ID).
I was also referring to other things Google also backup. Turning these off.
bober10113 said:
well knowing google, apps are tagged from the playstore as being installed.( app library vs installed).so backups arent done on/from your device. when restoring they check last device ID and match the associated installed app from your library.
anyways thats what i think. so all in all not sure if disabling it would help or not.
BUT again, its all about the freshness.
which service offers the very last apps you installed?
but one thing to rhink about is: samsung will restore google play and samsung store apps.
where as whit Google, i think would only restore playstore apps(since they just check playstore library associated to device ID).
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Limeybastard said:
I was also referring to other things Google also backup. Turning these off.
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oh ok yeah maybe it el help.
Limeybastard said:
I was also referring to other things Google also backup. Turning these off.
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so this just in, samsung backup dosent restore app data where as google does. so this means apps are restored but none of the custom data)settings) is actually restored (like rooted people do with titanium backup).
edit i should mention that i was on android pie doing a backup using smart switch. it asked me where i wanted it and i chose my ext sd card. unpon flashing a new rom and setting it up, i used again smart switch to to restore this time, so i chose the sd card logo at the the top right of the screen and it took a while. so not sure how this backup /restore method differs from the regular samsung cloud ...but it did not restore app data. since it was local i am a bit flabbergasted by these findings. would have expected data since google restores it from the network and does include it....i wont try the other regular method via Samsung cloud since the space allotted is limited to around 10 or 15 gig.in comparison my local backup with smart switch took over 25 gb(got 400+ apps) so thats why im not expecting any better viaa regular cloud sync... but we never know. maybe someone with a smaller volume of content can offer some results.
oh and on the flip side, samsung restores more apps than googles does. i suspect it dosnt check for the playstore app signature and just blindly backups all user apps.. just a darn shame about the data part...(not user settings data like passwords and for wifi and bluetooth pairing but acctual applicaion data)
just wanted to share my findings with you guys
google play back will restore all apps downloaded from the play store but it will not restore any app downloaded from other sources like galaxy apps or aptoide
samsung backup and restores all the apps that are installed on your devices regardless of where it came from
so usually i will let google restore my apps so that i will get the latest apps from the store then i will restore from samsung cloud to get the extra apps i installed from other sources plus my apps folders
BuHaneenHHHH said:
just wanted to share my findings with you guys
google play back will restore all apps downloaded from the play store but it will not restore any app downloaded from other sources like galaxy apps or aptoide
samsung backup and restores all the apps that are installed on your devices regardless of where it came from
so usually i will let google restore my apps so that i will get the latest apps from the store then i will restore from samsung cloud to get the extra apps i installed from other sources plus my apps folders
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wow this is news to me !

Question New phone not auto-installing all my apps from the Google Play Store

I am used to having my phone auto-install all the apps that I am using whenever I add my account on a new device. Of course it has to be the same account, but it has worked seamlessly for more than 10 years.
Today I got a shiny new S21 Ultra and added my Google account and unfortunately it is not auto-installing my apps.
Is there a button somewhere I can use to prompt it to start doing this or am I going to have to manually add each and every app back one by one from the play store?
Thank you!
It's Samsung trying to forces us to use there apps and ecosystem.
sillycat said:
I am used to having my phone auto-install all the apps that I am using whenever I add my account on a new device. Of course it has to be the same account, but it has worked seamlessly for more than 10 years.
Today I got a shiny new S21 Ultra and added my Google account and unfortunately it is not auto-installing my apps.
Is there a button somewhere I can use to prompt it to start doing this or am I going to have to manually add each and every app back one by one from the play store?
Thank you!
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If you made a backup of your last phone and included apps, you could restore it... If not, one by one...
I think I know what is different.
In the past, I used to remove my account from my old phone before I added it to my new phone.
This time since I keep the old phone, my account is still on it. I think Google is trying to be clever and not automatically transfering all my apps because the old device is still active.
You have to restore a device (device a to device b) for the restore to install the current apps. Nothing to do with signing into the phone, only does it on a restore of a backup. I have hundreds of "installed apps" across devices from current to destroyed. Thankfully google play store does not try to reinstall them, that would be a nightmare deleting them all.

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