So I bought the phone just now. Paid quite a lot because they don't exist in my country , but I've wanted it since it got out, and it's in like brand new condition so ehhh, why not I said..
Just checked and phone is on Marshmallow 24.81.5quark_verzion.verzion.enUS
Tried Kingroot and sunshine to at least achieve temproot , they both failed.
What are my options right now here?
Thanks!
No unlock options right now if you are on stock 6.0.1 with a locked bootloader.
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No unlock options right now if you are on stock 6.0.1 with a locked bootloader.
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Thanks for reply! I guess I'll just live with it. Iphone in motorola's body lol. But for discussions sake, any way to downgrade? I know flashing bootloader triggers the "fuse" but I was succesfull with some weird bootloader downgrades in the past wtih 201M (Japanese softbank version of Razr M) and IS12M (JP KDDI version of Droid Razr).
Only problem is, this phone is way to expensive for me to experiment..
Ej?iSixo said:
Thanks for reply! I guess I'll just live with it. Iphone in motorola's body lol. But for discussions sake, any way to downgrade? I know flashing bootloader triggers the "fuse" but I was successful with some weird bootloader downgrades in the past wtih 201M (Japanese softbank version of Razr M) and IS12M (JP KDDI version of Droid Razr).
Only problem is, this phone is way to expensive for me to experiment..
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Hmmmm... then you were very lucky because gospel around here is you can never downgrade the Motorola bootloader. If you could downgrade bootloader, then everyone would go back to version where Sunshine worked! First Sunshine worked on Lollipop SU4TL-44 (November 2015), then everyone who procrastinated rushed to take SU4TL-49 (May 2016), hoping it was Marshmallow. Nope, it was just a Verizon "security" update to stop Sunshine from working. They had SIX MONTHS to unlock their bootloader and they didn't do it! Then everyone complained and said if only Sunshine worked on "49", they wouldn't procrastinate anymore. BOOM. A few months later (july 2016) Sunshine found another exploit and it works also on Lollipop "49".
But we are STILL seeing people now taking the Marshmallow OTA (November 2016) without unlocking bootloader first. Not you, you said you bought it with it already installed...
One of the Sunshine team members said he briefly glanced at the 6.0.1 OTA and it might not be impossible to unlock the bootloader. But no promises and no ETA. I don't think this phone is a high priority anymore. This is now a 2-year old phone. Still GREAT, but other newer phones get attention. There's been Sunshine for it since November 2015 and most everyone who wants it has had a chance to get it.
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Hmmmm... then you were very lucky because gospel around here is you can never downgrade the Motorola bootloader. If you could downgrade bootloader, then everyone would go back to version where Sunshine worked! First Sunshine worked on Lollipop SU4TL-44 (November 2015), then everyone who procrastinated rushed to take SU4TL-49 (May 2016), hoping it was Marshmallow. Nope, it was just a Verizon "security" update to stop Sunshine from working. They had SIX MONTHS to unlock their bootloader and they didn't do it! Then everyone complained and said if only Sunshine worked on "49", they wouldn't procrastinate anymore. BOOM. A few months later (july 2016) Sunshine found another exploit and it works also on Lollipop "49".
But we are STILL seeing people now taking the Marshmallow OTA (November 2016) without unlocking bootloader first. Not you, you said you bought it with it already installed...
One of the Sunshine team members said he briefly glanced at the 6.0.1 OTA and it might not be impossible to unlock the bootloader. But no promises and no ETA. I don't think this phone is a high priority anymore. This is now a 2-year old phone. Still GREAT, but other newer phones get attention. There's been Sunshine for it since November 2015 and most everyone who wants it has had a chance to get it.
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Yeah I read whole how to unlock bootloader thread, from 1st to last page but havent' seen anything marshmallow specific so I opened this topic..
Yeah , I was also surprised, but I spent around 1 month working on it , and it was only working with specific firmwares (fastboot files).
Yeah I wish I checked little more about that issue , I would check phones OS and probably not buy when I see it's MM.. Oh well, no going back now.. Thought that verzion's control freak behavior stopped by the time of droid turbo( used some verzion motorola phones in the past) especially when google bought motorola.
I hope people don't see this phone as outdated, because there is no way it can be called that. Many people including myself figured it like a replacement for nexus , and I think it deserves at least root exploit..
Also asked in Sunshines thread about support for marshmallow , got rather unclear response:
Me:Will there be support for droid turbo on marshmallow? Just purchased the phone, didn't know unlocking bl was possible only on lolli... Thanks
jcase: Known at this point,
EDIT: damn I write yeah a lot lol. P.s if mods want to delete topic because it's useless, feel free. Thanks!
EDIT 2: By checking system updates looks like phone was updates 3 days ago so 1 day before I bought it .. Arrrghhhh!!!
BTW I just remembered, "old" Droid 's ( xt910 ,xt912 etc) bootloader was never ever unlocked , but there was a way around it. Safestrap recovery by Hashcode , which I'm sure you all know about. The project is scraped because dev is busy , but I really wonder if anything like that is possible on droid turbo. I also wonder how does it work exactly and what gets bypassed.
From users standpoint: you installed apk which then installed recovery that "bypassed" locked bootloader and allowed you to install /load custom roms, kernels , radios , root etc.. You could even install more OS's at same time like on another "partitions".
hm...
EjđiSixo said:
BTW I just remembered, "old" Droid 's ( xt910 ,xt912 etc) bootloader was never ever unlocked , but there was a way around it. Safestrap recovery by Hashcode , which I'm sure you all know about. The project is scraped because dev is busy , but I really wonder if anything like that is possible on droid turbo. I also wonder how does it work exactly and what gets bypassed.
From users standpoint: you installed apk which then installed recovery that "bypassed" locked bootloader and allowed you to install /load custom roms, kernels , radios , root etc.. You could even install more OS's at same time like on another "partitions".
hm...
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sorry for keeping this post alive, but i really really miss Safestrap when i had the Moto Droid Razr, you could have up to 4 different ROMs installed and it took minutes to swap between them. Man those were the good ole days haha
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sorry for keeping this post alive, but i really really miss Safestrap when i had the Moto Razr, you could have up to 4 different ROMs installed and it took minutes to swap between them. Man those were the good ole days haha
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I remember being frustrated about never-unlockable bootloader while using safestrap at same tame and then realised, hey wait! What do I need unlocked bootloader anyway , everything works perfect and functionality is even better than on most modded phones (at the time).
Having something like this on droid turbo would make it a perfect phone in my opinion, and for years to come.. Wonder whats the dev's view on droid turbo on that..
Anyway I was playing a little, all within "safe zones" regarding the downgrading . With litlle modding I could flash bootloader.img from QUARK_VERIZON_5.1_SU4TL-49_cid2_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip and most of partitions related to bootloader I collected from various locations,all from SU4TL but it's obviously not important..
So basically what I can't flash to downgrade is :
gpt.bin
boot.img
system files (system,img_sparsechunk.0 , 1 , 2 etc).. I will investigate more.
Started finally actually using phone , all bloatware can be disabled, so it's actually pretty ok for now. Phone feels awesome ..
Mods , please delete this topic in purpose of cleaning, I'm gonna open 2 topics regarding downgrading experiment and making SBF of new Marshmallow OTA
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besides the chinese connection which may or may not be working , I dont need the spam nor do I need links having access to PP accounts . I guess my Moto X will continue to be a paperweight , My Note OG will continue to be my DD , since it has never failed me . Too bad Android is going the way of the proprietory scams (apple,windows ) and I dont blame the Devs like some people in here , , ya gotta figure if Microsoft, Google, Apple or HP ,Oracle see's what these guys are doing and says "I want that kid " , "yore hred kid , but you cant release anymore code to the public, trust me you'll be compensated well" , why wouldnt they take that offer ?
Just wish there was something else we could do ?
Get the Dev Edition
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It's AT&T that refuses to allow Motorola to unlock their model ...
I've seen nothing but happy customers from the Chinese code seller...the phones he could unlock anyway.
So a bit of spam, or an unlocked bootloader..... Seems most go for the unlock.
As said, dev edition is your only other choice. Sell the one you have and you'll be most of the way to the DE cost.
I don't know of anyone on here who has gotten any spam using the PayPal method with the Chinese guy. If you don't have an unlockable version or a dev version, it will likely be the only possibility ever. Motorola have locked these things down tight.
Vintage144 said:
I guess my Moto X will continue to be a paperweight
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Just wish there was something else we could do ?
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Well, you could start by buying phones that actually suit your needs. Some versions of the X were bootloader-locked. This was known from the outset. So whose fault is it that you own a "paperweight"? It's not the developers, or Google, or Microsoft, or anyone else.
You could have bought a dev edition. You could have bought from a carrier who allowed unlocking. You could have skipped the X altogether... so, why?
I'd like it if Big Red offered more unlockable phones, but I go into any phone purchase with eyes wide open. I decided the Moto X suited my needs even bootloader-locked. So you won't hear any complaints from me: it's my own fault if I don't like it. I don't hear a lot of Ford F350 owners complaining about their gas mileage, and there aren't a lot of Prius drivers that think their car is a paperweight because it can't haul a boat.
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I dont need the spam nor do I need links having access to PP accounts
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I used the Chinese PayPal method and haven't received any spam what so ever, only a single email with my code. Would highly recommend that option to anyone.
wasnt referring to spam from the chinese guy and that would be the option Id take , as for the paperweight , should have stayed with stuff I know like Samsung and HTC anyway , theyve never let me down , there isnt some are some arent!
No disrespect intended.....but you didn't like the X three months ago even, why haven't you just sold it????
Just curious.
I used the chinese MM method. Sent the payment via paypal as instructed and received the code less than 24 hrs later.
Unlocked BL, rooted phone, and installed GravityBox today. Noticed literally no extra lag so far and the increase in functionality, customization, and my satisfaction of the phone has increased exponentially.
If you're worried about spam, can't you just make a temporary email account?
jamesino said:
I used the chinese MM method. Sent the payment via paypal as instructed and received the code less than 24 hrs later.
Unlocked BL, rooted phone, and installed GravityBox today. Noticed literally no extra lag so far and the increase in functionality, customization, and my satisfaction of the phone has increased exponentially.
If you're worried about spam, can't you just make a temporary email account?
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Where can I find that Chinese mm method?
androiddoglover6969 said:
Where can I find that Chinese mm method?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
Only generally works with phone made in 2014 though. Check the lower right corner of the sticker on your box for the manufacture date.
jamesino said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
Only generally works with phone made in 2014 though. Check the lower right corner of the sticker on your box for the manufacture date.
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Semi off topic:
If I rooted my phone to 4.4.2. and I have a bootloader locked, doing a factory reset will entitle me to keep my root? Or will I lose it?
And what if I do a factory reset on my rooted moto x on 4.4.2 when my bootloader is unlocked. Will I be able to keep my root when doing factory reset? I am trying to get rid of this "com.motorola.process.system" because I've tried wiping cache and dalvik and safemode and date and time method doesn't work.
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Semi off topic:
If I rooted my phone to 4.4.2. and I have a bootloader locked, doing a factory reset will entitle me to keep my root? Or will I lose it?
And what if I do a factory reset on my rooted moto x on 4.4.2 when my bootloader is unlocked. Will I be able to keep my root when doing factory reset? I am trying to get rid of this "com.motorola.process.system" because I've tried wiping cache and dalvik and safemode and date and time method doesn't work.
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See my reply to this same question you asked in another thread. You're out-of-luck.
Please follow my instructions in the other thread. You'll have to re-flash the stock 4.4.2 rom, and you will NOT be getting root back without BL unlock.
Sorry...its posted all over this forum that you cannot take the 4.4.2 OTA - it patches the BL exploits we used.
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See my reply to this same question you asked in another thread. You're out-of-luck.
Please follow my instructions in the other thread. You'll have to re-flash the stock 4.4.2 rom, and you will NOT be getting root back without BL unlock.
Sorry...its posted all over this forum that you cannot take the 4.4.2 OTA - it patches the BL exploits we used.
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I didn't take the 4.4.2 OTA...
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See my reply to this same question you asked in another thread. You're out-of-luck.
Please follow my instructions in the other thread. You'll have to re-flash the stock 4.4.2 rom, and you will NOT be getting root back without BL unlock.
Sorry...its posted all over this forum that you cannot take the 4.4.2 OTA - it patches the BL exploits we used.
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Alright. Just bought the unlock bootloader service.
If you want a bootloader unlock for AT&T Moto X, you could just get the Rogers Moto X.
They are both XT1058 and the Rogers one is bootloader unlockable on the Motorola website. I unlocked 3 there myself.
scorpion667 said:
If you want a bootloader unlock for AT&T Moto X, you could just get the Rogers Moto X.
They are both XT1058 and the Rogers one is bootloader unlockable on the Motorola website. I unlocked 3 there myself.
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Good call, but hopefully that'll be useful for those with that 1058 model. I am on XT1049.
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If you want a bootloader unlock for AT&T Moto X, you could just get the Rogers Moto X.
They are both XT1058 and the Rogers one is bootloader unlockable on the Motorola website. I unlocked 3 there myself.
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That's what I have. Unlocked on moto site.
I have Moto X 2013 Verizon. Lasetest firmware 4.4.4. Can anyone help me unlock bootloader my phone? And after unlock bootloder can my phone recieve OTA update ?
Do you have the developers edition? If not you can't unlock.
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Do you have the developers edition? If not you can't unlock.
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my phone is not dev edition. But i wonder why only Verizon not allow unlock bootloader, all another carrier Moto X can unlock bootloader easy:crying:
Verizon and AT&T. If you search the forum for China middle man. You may find a way to unlock. Just a hint.
I know what u feel, I have this great phone but I Can't unlock bootloader either
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md07 said:
my phone is not dev edition. But i wonder why only Verizon not allow unlock bootloader, all another carrier Moto X can unlock bootloader easy:crying:
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Verizon (non-Dev Edition), ATT and Republic Wireless can not unlock their bootloader. It has been this way since the 2013 X went on sale.
Its likely due to contracts between Moto and those carriers.
It is possible!!
I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
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I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
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I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
Fadelight said:
I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
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I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
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I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
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Yeah, that is what I suspect. I am pretty sure if JCase had added support for the moto x in sunshine, he would've announced it by now. Lots of money to be had.
gchase23 said:
I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
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I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
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Sunshine relies on your phone being rooted, or the tool being able to obtain temp root.
4.4.4 on the 2013 Verizon Moto X, or most/all 2013 Moto X on locked bootloader, hasn't been rooted, and the tool can't temp root the phone.
So if you have 4.4.4 on the 2013 Moto X, do not expect Sunshine to work.
If you have never updated the 2013 Moto X to 4.4.4, then Sunshine will likely work just fine.
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I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
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I took the soak test leak and pushed it to my phone and I can't unlock my boot loader either I don't think it has anything to do with that :/
BADDINOROX99 said:
I took the soak test leak and pushed it to my phone and I can't unlock my boot loader either I don't think it has anything to do with that :/
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Did you update everything or did you individually update components? I think it came down to whether or not people updated the bootloader when they updated to 4.4.4. There was a way to update without updating the bootloader and I think it's those phones that sunshine works for. I'm far from an expert though; I could definitely be wrong.
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Sunshine relies on your phone being rooted, or the tool being able to obtain temp root.
4.4.4 on the 2013 Verizon Moto X, or most/all 2013 Moto X on locked bootloader, hasn't been rooted, and the tool can't temp root the phone.
So if you have 4.4.4 on the 2013 Moto X, do not expect Sunshine to work.
If you have never updated the 2013 Moto X to 4.4.4, then Sunshine will likely work just fine.
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I'm well aware of this. But he claimed it worked for him.
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I'm well aware of this. But he claimed it worked for him.
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But gchase23 did NOT say what rom was on his phone BEFORE using Sunshine.. only that he was now unlocked and trying to decide on which 5.0 rom to run.
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Did you update everything or did you individually update components? I think it came down to whether or not people updated the bootloader when they updated to 4.4.4. There was a way to update without updating the bootloader and I think it's those phones that sunshine works for. I'm far from an expert though; I could definitely be wrong.
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People were being "cute" and manual flashing SBF's but skipping GPT.BIN and Motoboot.img (two parts that can't be downgraded).
However, as I understand it, this doesn't change the fact that 4.4.4 can't be rooted or temp rooted by Sunshine, which prevents it from working. It does mean that if done this way, they could likely downgrade to their previous SBF which matches the GPT.Bin/Motoboot (probably 4.4.2), and still use sunshine.
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But gchase23 did NOT say what rom was on his phone BEFORE using Sunshine.. only that he was now unlocked and trying to decide on which 5.0 rom to run.
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People were being "cute" and manual flashing SBF's but skipping GPT.BIN and Motoboot.img (two parts that can't be downgraded).
However, as I understand it, this doesn't change the fact that 4.4.4 can't be rooted or temp rooted by Sunshine, which prevents it from working. It does mean that if done this way, they could likely downgrade to their previous SBF which matches the GPT.Bin/Motoboot (probably 4.4.2), and still use sunshine.
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Dude, did you read what I quoted? He said sunshine unlocked his moto x. The OP specifies 4.4.4 and he said "I just did it", implying he was on 444.
I think you are skipping over a bit and replying only to parts of what I asked. I am well aware that sunshine won't work on 444. He stated he unlocked his with sunshine... Using only the words " I did it". I asked if he was on 444.
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Dude, did you read what I quoted? He said sunshine unlocked his moto x. The OP specifies 4.4.4 and he said "I just did it", implying he was on 444.
I think you are skipping over a bit and replying only to parts of what I asked. I am well aware that sunshine won't work on 444. He stated he unlocked his with sunshine... Using only the words " I did it". I asked if he was on 444.
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Its implied, but I've been on these boards enough to question when its not explicitly stated.
I was hoping he'd come back and provide confirmation that he was on 4.4.4, and what bootloader was on his phone
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Its implied, but I've been on these boards enough to question when its not explicitly stated.
I was hoping he'd come back and provide confirmation that he was on 4.4.4, and what bootloader was on his phone
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And that is exactly what I was getting at.
When asked about the future of sunshine for the 2013 moto x, JCase said "not anytime soon."
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And that is exactly what I was getting at.
When asked about the future of sunshine for the 2013 moto x, JCase said "not anytime soon."
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Ugh... Take a look at this post by gchase23 from a few nights ago -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...6gb-bootloader-unlocked-t3057964/post59532395
Notice he says "XT1060 4.4.3 VZW - Rooted" Um, XT1060 never had 4.4.3, only 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. So I'm not sure we'll get a straight answer, because I replied asking for clarification, and didn't get a response.
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Ugh... Take a look at this post by gchase23 from a few nights ago -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...6gb-bootloader-unlocked-t3057964/post59532395
Notice he says "XT1060 4.4.3 VZW - Rooted" Um, XT1060 never had 4.4.3, only 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. So I'm not sure we'll get a straight answer, because I replied asking for clarification, and didn't get a response.
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Oh wow. Yeah, something is a bit off there.
JCase said something a while ago about a bunch of exploits he would be releasing. I was/am really hoping there would be something that we could use to gain root on the 2013 Moto X, but with his last comment on twitter, I'm not so sure that is going to happen.
If I were in any other situation, I would be looking for a new phone, but two things are preventing it. First, I love the Moto X and haven't found another phone I like better. Second, MY moto x is already unlocked (I held on to 4.4 until Sunshine came out). Its my wifes and my fathers that are not. Somehow they ended up on 4.4.4 without knowing it. They claim it just happened while they were sleeping. I more quickly suspect they tapped on it thinking it was an app update from the app store. But in any event, their phones are still locked.
I haven't seen any root methods listed here for 5.0.
I'm still on 4.4 because I didn't want to lose system write or root. Has anyone been able to successfully root 5.0 with system write ability? What method did you use?
I've seen mentions of using Chain Fire but the articles are usually poorly written, so I don't trust them.
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I haven't seen any root methods listed here for 5.0.
I'm still on 4.4 because I didn't want to lose system write or root. Has anyone been able to successfully root 5.0 with system write ability? What method did you use?
I've seen mentions of using Chain Fire but the articles are usually poorly written, so I don't trust them.
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Twrp has the option to root.
When you reboot from it.
That's how I rooted twrp
I'm on AT&T, so my bootloader is still locked. Unless someone has figured out how to unlock without paying $25.
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I'm on AT&T, so my bootloader is still locked. Unless someone has figured out how to unlock without paying $25.
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If you have a locked bootloader you need someone to find a in the phone, or its software. Then a repeatable process must be created to use the exploit to gain root. i.e. Hack It.
Root is only part. There is also Write Protection to worry about.. When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on. Starting with 4.4.2, on a locked bootloader we can't disable write protection. No Vulnerabilities have been found/posted. However, Unlocking the bootloader disables write protection.
So if you have a locked bootloader, and want to root 5.02, you first need 5.02 to come out, then vulnerability found, tested, and a process created. When 5.1 comes out, it needs to be tested to see if the vulnerability was patched. if it was, the work starts all over again.. Its like playing "whack a mole." And even then you likely will have write protection enabled... so any power off/on or "hard boot" will mean lost changes to your phone.
Since the 2013 X is getting old, and only ATT, Verizon, and Republic wireless can't unlock their bootloader through Motorola's site, Paying $25 to use Sunshine if your phone is still on 4.4.2 or lower, is not a bad deal if you want to be sure you can root and disable write protection no matter what Android version comes to your phone.
NOTE: I am not affiliated with Sunshine... just trying to help you understand... Coming up with a root process for a LOCKED Bootloader isn't "quick and easy"
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I'm on AT&T, so my bootloader is still locked. Unless someone has figured out how to unlock without paying $25.
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That's literally the only way you are going to have root on lollipop. At least for a while anyways. I don't think many people would be interested in finding and creating exploits after this phone has already be exploited to the point where almost everyone can unlock their bootloader. I started at 4.4, went down to 4.2.2, used RockMyMoto and MotoWPnomo, then used SlapMyMoto when upgrading back to 4.4. After that I installed Safestrap and was able to use the stock (and rooted) ROMs by @Ctrl-Freak all the way up to 4.4.4. But after I heard about Sunshine... That was the holy grail. Unlocked my bootloader, flashed a clean install of stock 4.4 and just upgraded till 4.4.4 again, flashed TWRP, rooted, and that was it.
Thanks guys. I was always wary about Sunshine. Just never sat well with me, but I think I'm going to do it after I move into my new house since I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon.
d3athsd00r said:
Thanks guys. I was always wary about Sunshine. Just never sat well with me, but I think I'm going to do it after I move into my new house since I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon.
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Its true, Sunshine is kind of risky... BUT because of those involved with it, I would consider it as safe as any "hack" can get.
If I didn't have a Dev Edition X, and needed to unlock my bootloader, I would not hesitate to use Sunshine.
So I think I'm finally going to need to get a new phone soon. But I can't afford anything high end ATM. So I'm thinking about gting a 64gb tubro that can be unlocked, but I'm wondering if there is any reason I should settle for 32gb and gt a moto maxx instead. I think I read U can't unlock relock and unlock again with the xt1254 but I dnt see needing to do that anyway. Anything else I should know about hacked turbo vs officially unlocked maxx?
1) Be best if you keep using model numbers like in your title, instead of names like "Turbo", "Moto Maxx". There's two Turbos (Droid Turbo XT1254, Moto Turbo XT1225), there's two Moto Maxx even (XT1250, XT1225). Using model numbers keeps it straight.
2) If you get an XT1254 64GB, you are looking at Amazon, eBay, Swappa? Be aware some people have sneakily locked their bootloaders back before selling. I don't know why. If I were buying, I would pay more money for an unlocked bootloader -- the hard work and cost has already been done. You will need to see proof of bootloader status. If the bootloader has been locked back, it's worthless for you.
Also, you would need to see proof the phone has not already been upgraded to the OTA update pushed out by Verizon in May -- SU4TL-49, unless the seller can show you the bootloader is indeed unlocked. A lot of people who took the OTA before unlocking their bootloaders are now selling them due to their screwup.
Sunshine bootloader unlock exploit ($25) only works with SU4TL-44 (Lollipop 5.1) . If the phone has not been upgraded to Lollipop 5.1 and is still on 4.4.4 Kitkat, you can update it to SU4TL-44 using a file in this forum. But you would have to be careful not to take OTA updating it to SU4TL-49.
3) An XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) doesn't have any conditions like that, but comes in 32GB only.
K I gotcha. either way I want something new and I have no problem doing the work myself. I found one on the bay and it's on su4tl44, I'll have to have him show me the boot loader. What is it if it's relocked status code 3?
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K I gotcha. either way I want something new and I have no problem doing the work myself. I found one on the bay and it's on su4tl44, I'll have to have him show me the boot loader. What is it if it's relocked status code 3?
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XT1254 Droid Turbo owners would know much better than me on this.
One of the forums says this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...sh-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008/page4
0 is locked
2 is relocked
3 is unlocked
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I've never re-locked bootloader, so I don't know. Once unlocked I keep it that way...
Same here, that's y I hoping U guy would help. So it soundz like if I gt the right build number and it's not relocked, and I don't ever relock it, I should be golden. I can gt a 64gb xt1254 cheaper then the xt1250 with only 32gb I just don't want to mess myself over.
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Same here, that's y I hoping U guy would help. So it soundz like if I gt the right build number and it's not relocked, and I don't ever relock it, I should be golden. I can gt a 64gb xt1254 cheaper then the xt1250 with only 32gb I just don't want to mess myself over.
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Sounds like you are doing it right.
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K I gotcha. either way I want something new and I have no problem doing the work myself. I found one on the bay and it's on su4tl44, I'll have to have him show me the boot loader. What is it if it's relocked status code 3?
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If its been relocked you can still reunlock it as well its just a little bit trickier and there is a chance of bricking your device if not done properly bur as long as you have a computer with fastboot adb installed you should be good. I have never reunlocked myself but have read and helped others in reunlocking there own its in the forum here somewhere. So no matter what as long as you can get that turbo on su4tl44 you should be set.
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If its been relocked you can still reunlock it as well its just a little bit trickier and there is a chance of bricking your device if not done properly bur as long as you have a computer with fastboot adb installed you should be good. I have never reunlocked myself but have read and helped others in reunlocking there own its in the forum here somewhere. So no matter what as long as you can get that turbo on su4tl44 you should be set.
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Then that's new information I haven't kept up with. Earlier some people re-locked for unknown reasons and they were told they were out of luck. It was a one-time only process.
Here's the thread you are talking about:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/relocked-bootloader-bricked-t3306081
Seems iffy. Better to not have a re-locked bootloader in the first place.
Thus far everyone that has followed beaups unlock instructions it's worked for. I think the issue is it's not something as simple as adb boot loader unlock
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Hello guys,
I bought verizon motorola droid turbo xt1254 running on marshmallow from ebay like 6 months ago. It had some battery issues like dendrite (turning off at 27% etc.) However thats just old history. The problem is when i saw a post on xda saying that xt254 can be upgraded using sunshine. I downloaded it, didnt really do much with it, but once it shut down due to battery being 0%, it stuck in bootloop. Now the background is i had no recovery cwm/twrp installed, the bootloader is locked (as it says Device is LOCKED), and all i can do is flashing files. so right now im in this situation, and tried couple of time flashing some firmwares using fastboot, and all the time i get 2/3 files of the firmware flashed, the rest says this error message:
(bootloader) Invalid signed image (bootloader) Preflash validation failed
So as far as i concern is the fact that due to not having unlocked bootloader, it is not letting me install the "wrong" version of firmware. SO can anyone tell me which firmware should i use, and the link from where i get the perfect firmware i need to download? OR if i am wrong, what i am supposed to do now?
I cant upload picture (??) so this is all the info of my bootloader
Mobile Specs:
BL: moto-apq8084-70.96 )sha-b624508
Baseband: MDM9625_41.51.07.22.04R QUARK-CUST
Serial#: ZX1F24DNVV
CPU: APQ8084 ES1.1
Device is locked. Status COde: 0
ANy kind of help is so much appreciated. Thanks
in my experience you need to use the CORRECT stock firmware when flashing to fix or it wont work, as in the proper version of it.
also if using autoinit you need to follow instructions to place the patch then remove it at certain points of sunshine install or bootloop
This thread is where you should have started and where you should go now:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3292684
Read the first post thoroughly, then skip to the last two or three pages. One of the Sunshine devs often participates when you post there.
Repost this in that thread.
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To Rickjameshaj: i know i need to use the right firmware can you please tell me which one is the right firmware based on the info i have provided about the current situation of my device?
Also, i used fastboot flash command in cmd and .bat files, idk if that counts as autoinit. If it does, can you send me the link of the patch with instruction pls?
To chazzmatt: i read the post and i dont think it applies to me. Again, i bricked my phoneso bad that it opens nothing but a LOCKED bootloader, and the onlyhopeful thing happened is i flashed only 2/3 files of the firmware succesfully. the post asks to start with the specific firmware, which i cant, neither ihave unlocked bootloader, no flashing of any kinda file except for the right firmware so to speak,so..... But anyway thanks again for gettinh me in the right place and i will definitely repost it there
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To chazzmatt: i read the post and i dont think it applies to me. Again, i bricked my phone so bad that it opens nothing but a LOCKED bootloader, and the only hopeful thing happened is i flashed only 2/3 files of the firmware successfully. the post asks to start with the specific firmware, which i cant, neither i have unlocked bootloader, no flashing of any kinda file except for the right firmware so to speak,so..... But anyway thanks again for gettinh me in the right place and i will definitely repost it there
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I thought you said you downloaded/maybe installed Sunshine? That you just weren't successful in using it. That thread is about using Sunshine to unlock your bootloader, and gives all the instructions. Furthermore, Sunshine dev has participated in that thread or you can contact Sunshine and open a trouble ticket. Yes, part of the process (depending on firmware you are on) is to use a temp root to allow Sunshine to work. That's where it can get complicated.
[GUIDE] How to unlock your bootloader, install TWRP and gain root access
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684
If I mis-read that sorry. In that case you need to just install the very latest firmware, not some older firmware. You can't downgrade to older firmware with locked bootloader. This is the newest Verizon Motorola firmware:
[FXZ] Official Stock Firmware 6.0.1 MCG24.251-5-5
https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr...-official-stock-firmware-6-0-1-mcg24-t3569334
Those are your only two options.
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EDIT: OK, I see you followed my advice and went to that thread after all. Glad you got it straightened out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75629572&postcount=786
Told ya!
Yes, I didn't install it properly I guess, can't remember coz 24 days ago, but the post asked not to follow magisk, and I remember not downloading magisk, so.....
Also, I don't get the 25$ part. I didn't needed that.. probably that's the reason..
Is there any other way to upgrade to Oreo without unlocking? If there is, can you pls link that.
Thanks so much for helping me all the time.
I actually started with the thread and got stuck in the bootloop ! I see I didn't miss anything. I have no idea....
Alright chazzmatt, just a little help at the end, 1) where does the unlocking cost 25$ (I don't see no place that it costs) and will I be able to flash Oreo after unlocking bootloader and 3) is lineage 14.x and Oreo basically same /or what's the difference
Thanks
kr12 said:
Alright chazzmatt, just a little help at the end, 1) where does the unlocking cost 25$ (I don't see no place that it costs) and will I be able to flash Oreo after unlocking bootloader and 3) is lineage 14.x and Oreo basically same /or what's the difference
Thanks
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Sunshine app is what costs $25 to use. It will unlock the bootloader of the Droid Turbo even though Verizon doesn't want you to. Other Motorola phones (not Verizon) get free bootloader unlock code from Motorola. But the Sunshine devs found an exploit(s) to force bootloader unlock on Verizon Droid Turbo. However, it's cat-and-mouse, and the very latest Verizon firmware (which you may be on?) tries to block Sunshine. BUT with that powerful temp root, autoinit or whatever it's called, that can help Sunshine still unlock the bootloader.
The temp root itself does not unlock the bootloader nor give permanent root. It's only to be used as a tool to help Sunshine.
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After unlocking the bootloader you can flash any of these ROMs:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75256703&postcount=92
Lineage 14.x is Nougat, not Oreo. There's no Oreo ROMs yet but will be. Uber developer @bhb27 is working on coding a kernel for us, which is the necessary foundation for all LOS-based custom ROMs.
kr12 said:
Alright chazzmatt, just a little help at the end, 1) where does the unlocking cost 25$ (I don't see no place that it costs) and will I be able to flash Oreo after unlocking bootloader and 3) is lineage 14.x and Oreo basically same /or what's the difference
Thanks
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Also no, you will not be able to put Oreo on this phone. Lineage 14.x is based on Nougat. The Sunshine app will charge you $25 before it unlocks your bootloader. If you were not charged, it did not unlock your bootloader.
Alright so when I tried to follow that it didn't cost me to download sunshine from the link(???) And the lineage thing, what I was trying to ask is that is lineage 14 = nougat /are exact same thing with different name? Thx
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Is there any other way to root only for free.......
kr12 said:
Alright so when I tried to follow that it didn't cost me to download sunshine from the link(???) And the lineage thing, what I was trying to ask is that is lineage 14 = nougat /are exact same thing with different name? Thx
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Yes, Lineage 14 is their version of Nougat. 15 is Oreo.
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Is there any other way to root only for free.......
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Not permanent root, no. Not for Verizon's Droid Turbo XT1254. Verizon won't let Motorola give free bootloader unlock code like the otherr sibling Quarks (Moto XT1250, Moto XT1225)
Devs invested a lot of time and money into finding exploit to unlock Droid Turbo bootloader, bricking phones, etc. Then releasing updates to keep ahead of Verizon's control freak "updates" to stop Sunshine.
Everyone who buys this Droid Turbo phone knows all that, of course -- because they wouldn't buy a phone without researching all this, right? So, they factor the $25 into the purchase price if they care about rooting their Droid Turbo.
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