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Question: Is the community interested in CM-based ROMs?

Randomly enough I'm an Android developer that this section could make use of.
So my question is: Is the community interested in CM based ROMs? (due to the fact that we lose DRM when we unlock the bootloader)
If there are indeed people who are interested. Do you have any ROMs which you wish to be ported for Z3C?

Tbh i guess the biggest issue is that people think that unlocking the bootloader turns the camera into to a old toaster. Atleast that is what my fear was before unlocking. After unlock i can barely make out a difference. Not to mention DRM fixes exists.
What really bothers me however is the lack of kernels for 6.0 and stock roms. Myself5 and Someone777 got custom kernels covered for 5.1 but nothing really exists for 6.0.
I read somewere about them planning 3.10 linux kernels based on Sony AOSP. Unsure for what type of roms tho.
Myself I run two things on my phone
1. Stock Rom + Custom Kernel.
2. Paranoid Android or CM based. PA prefered. + Custom Kernel.
This community could sure use an extra dev tho.

I'd use CM/AOSP based rom in a heartbeat had it not been for that reversed fish eye bug
However they are even now pretty stable other than that bug, I've tried couple of them, and with the removal of Z1 platform camera blobs, we might even see that being fixed. Someone reported that with latest camera blob updates, camera quality was improved though.
That aside, custom rom I have loved was SlimRom, as I have used it on my old S2, and it's still loaded on it, but that's not CM based.
I don't know, it doesn't matter much which rom, just as long as it's stable and has all basic functions working well
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Exzu said:
After unlock i can barely make out a difference. Not to mention DRM fixes exists.
I read somewere about them planning 3.10 linux kernels based on Sony AOSP. Unsure for what type of roms tho.
This community could sure use an extra dev tho.
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The difference in quality is noticeable when you run into conditions with less light (let's say when ISO goes over 400), but even that can be improved with further camera blob releases. DRM fixes do not apply to CM/AOSP because framework and noise reduction algorithms differ from stock Sony roms.
It would be very nice to have a 3.10 branch kernels
Yep, an extra dev could be really helpful, considering the lack of devs and development for this device. IMO the devs around here did quite a good job, but any extra hand is welcome.

Not really for myself. I would like the last android n preview. I prefer to have the "aosp" rom from Sony than a buggy rom, it's so much work for dev to get something stable. Than the Sony concept rom, which are working so good.

I ran RR for quite a while, and as always enjoyed running something AOSP / CM based (especially coming from Nexus). I lived with the camera being ****ty and all was fine. But as nelvinchi disappeared, I tried put SLiMM (stock based), and to be honest - I absolutely love the camera quality! I can't imagine going back to that ****ty camera.
But whatever happened to Sonys OS camera project?

Hi,
I would really love to see AICP (probably the best CM based rom at this point) for our Z3c.
I don't care much about pictures quality. Using camera only to scan documents or to take notes.
Now running Concept rom with unlocked bootloader.

Yeah sure but good luck getting a working camera ...there isn't a cm rom out there with a properly functioning camera...

The only big issue is the fish-eye bug.
No fix, no party.

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The only big issue is the fish-eye bug.
No fix, no party.
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I'd say, for my requirements, it is the only issue keeping me away from AOSP/CM. I can say that I use camera often, so I need something with decent quality (without any kind of fish-eye of course). I have used MultiROM, but it is time consuming to reboot in stock ROM to capture the moment. On top of that, new MultiROM v33x is not working, and Myself5 is nowhere to be seen so I lost hope for a fix.

Cirra92 said:
I'd say, for my requirements, it is the only issue keeping me away from AOSP/CM. I can say that I use camera often, so I need something with decent quality (without any kind of fish-eye of course). I have used MultiROM, but it is time consuming to reboot in stock ROM to capture the moment. On top of that, new MultiROM v33x is not working, and Myself5 is nowhere to be seen so I lost hope for a fix.
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NOBODY likes to have a broken camera and that's the reason why EVERYBODY keeps away from AOSP roms, like you.
Frankly I gave up on development for this phone MANY MANY months ago.
We'll never get a fix for the fisheye bug, let's face it.

istux said:
NOBODY likes to have a broken camera and that's the reason why EVERYBODY keeps away from AOSP roms, like you.
Frankly I gave up on development for this phone MANY MANY months ago.
We'll never get a fix for the fisheye bug, let's face it.
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the people over at paranoid android tried but failed miserably with their recent initial release for MM and haven't heard a peep from them since...i'm sure it will get removed from their supported devices...

I wish blisspop would be ported to the z3c.

i'm pretty sure OP would be a god in this community if they produced a working CM/AOSP rom with a fully functioning camera.

istux said:
NOBODY likes to have a broken camera and that's the reason why EVERYBODY keeps away from AOSP roms, like you.
Frankly I gave up on development for this phone MANY MANY months ago.
We'll never get a fix for the fisheye bug, let's face it.
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We won't probably, because Sony doesn't want to release proper blobs, not that they can't, they don't want to.
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the people over at paranoid android tried but failed miserably with their recent initial release for MM and haven't heard a peep from them since...i'm sure it will get removed from their supported devices...
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Yea, the PA team have realized probably what crap they have put themselves into. Let's face the simple fact, which should be pretty obvious: people from Sony just don't want to release proper blobs/drivers for Z3 series. Why? That's something we can only guess. But the fact that they have released blobs/drivers for Z1 series (which have been used on Z3 series up until let's say 2 weeks ago) and have now added X camera blobs is something beyond logic. Why did they leave out Z3 series (which has different camera lens compared to Z1, but used Z1 blobs anyway)? It's not like Qualcomm forbid them to for Z3 series specifically, since Z1 has also proprietary DRM functions, yet it has working AOSP/CM with proper drivers released.
Not that I know anything about android drivers/blobs, coding and building, but this is what devs here were discussing, and I would trust them more than Sony officials.

MIUI or CUSTOM ROM based on CM13?

Hi guys...which rom is better for Xiaomi mi5 64gb? Previously i have MIUI 8, now i changed to RR 5.7.4...which is better? RR, AOSP, DU, other or MIUI 8?

It's up to you to find the ROM which suits you best. Some people love MIUI, some people don't...
All ROMs are good, some of them offer more customizing features and have more "power" for you to handle. Don't forget stability when rating a ideal ROM for you. If you want a daily driver, you surely want no bugs, and all things working. But, only you can evaluate that.

I recommed MIUI for stable and RR for customize

I been on miui for a while now but recently changed to cm13 I'm satisfied as hell, battery life is great and customization as well.
Skickat från min MI 5

I have a Mi5 32GB and have used MIUI 7/8, RR and CM13. Of the three MIUI is the worst (except battery life) and CM13 would be the best. The problem I had with RR was constant bootloops but it's customization is a tad bit better than that of CM. You can check out the official Nightly for CM13 here and flash it using a custom recovery like TWRP.
Personal preference plays a huge role here so I suggest you try each on your own and then select one. I have Xposed installed on my device so I don'y have to skimp on RR's customization features.

As was mentioned above - it's up to you. So you should try them (ROMs) by yourself because it's impossible to predicts what is more important for you and your evereday tasks.
I'm using MIUI rom (Xiaomi.eu 6.10.13 rom) because it works better with CDMA networks. Recently I've tested Official CM13 - Good rom, smooth, fast, very good battery life. But I didn't like how it works with networks (CDMA+GSM/UMTS).
Thats why I restored to 6.10.13 rom

vitna said:
As was mentioned above - it's up to you. So you should try them (ROMs) by yourself because it's impossible to predicts what is more important for you and your evereday tasks.
I'm using MIUI rom (Xiaomi.eu 6.10.13 rom) because it works better with CDMA networks. Recently I've tested Official CM13 - Good rom, smooth, fast, very good battery life. But I didn't like how it works with networks (CDMA+GSM/UMTS).
Thats why I restored to 6.10.13 rom
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Which one has better battery life, EU vs official CM?
I tried CM13 unofficial few months ago, but now using EU rom.

baszu said:
Which one has better battery life, EU vs official CM?
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official CM is really better than EU
In my tests my mi5 worked 1.3-1.5 times longer (approx)

baszu said:
Which one has better battery life, EU vs official CM?
I tried CM13 unofficial few months ago, but now using EU rom.
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Definitely Stock ROM.. Preferably EU, as its based on Stock.. Because, CM builds are still under development as in Nightlies..
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi 5 using XDA Labs

harishdayanand said:
Because, CM builds are still under development as in Nightlies..
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ROM stability and bugs - it's an other question.
From the battery life point of view - new official CM is better than EU

vitna said:
ROM stability and bugs - it's an other question.
From the battery life point of view - new official CM is better than EU
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Considering the amount of apps installed and the ones installing additionally, and the wakelocks are factors for battery duration.. CM has very few system apps compared the stock or any stock based.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi 5 using XDA Labs

Does the MIUI have German language? If no (which I am assuming/reading) does the CM13 or a custom ROM have this?
Also I am still searching for the "how to get TRWP onto my new phone post" (yes I have been searching) so would appreciate if someone could post me a link, thnaks!

pencilcase said:
Does the MIUI have German language? If no (which I am assuming/reading) does the CM13 or a custom ROM have this?
Also I am still searching for the "how to get TRWP onto my new phone post" (yes I have been searching) so would appreciate if someone could post me a link, thnaks!
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The best MIUI rom if you want German language is xiaomi.eu one. Why? While Global Stable MIUI does have german language, xiaomi.eu is basically chinese version with Google Play and no chinese crap. Chinese Version gets updates more often than global version. Here is the link with the installation guide (TWRP installation guide included).
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/

Idle battery drain on MIUI 8 (.eu) stable for me is mostly 0.0%/h over night, according to GSAM Battery monitor. That's after freezing most of the system apps with SD maid.
Day-to-day usage is ~1.9%/h, listening to music over BT for about 6h, browsing, whatsapp. So, a charge lasts 2 days for me.
I don't think CM would make much difference there, and personally, I like MIUI.

Custom roms for Xiaomi Mi5 are quite good if you don't need camera, if you are happy to use your phone as a single sim phone, if you love to actually press the home button.

vladimir_carlan said:
Custom roms for Xiaomi Mi5 are quite good if you don't need camera, if you are happy to use your phone as a single sim phone, if you love to actually press the home button.
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For what it's worth, I can use my Mi5 as a dual sim phone just fine under CM13... Nothing wrong with the CM camera as well. Only "problem" is the lack of the capacitive home button, I'll give you that.
Personally, between having to deal with the crappy MIUI notification implementation and the lack of tap home button, I chose the latter

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For what it's worth, I can use my Mi5 as a dual sim phone just fine under CM13... Nothing wrong with the CM camera as well. Only "problem" is the lack of the capacitive home button, I'll give you that.
Personally, between having to deal with the crappy MIUI notification implementation and the lack of tap home button, I chose the latter
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The bug when the battery reach 5%, data connectivity keep dropping off, Bluetooth connections the same, camera issues, dual sim issues. Those are just few issues reported by people on last 2-3 pages of CM thread. Don't get me wrong...i do appreciate developers job. And their work it's more difficult because Xiaomi just released the kernel source code. And only partially. But today, 30th of October 2016, there's absolutely no custom rom without having something broken. Is MIUI perfect? Not at all. As you said, the way MIUI is handing notifications it's far to be handy. But stability and functionality wise, no custom rom can match MIUI today.

Love miui don't know why everyone hates on it.
Will flash cm 13 if it gets stable and see if I like it more on my mi5. If miui 9 gets released before cm 13 gets stable though I won't.

Well Vladimir, not everybody is facing those bugs. I am not (the 5% battery one I would probably, but who cares!) That's why I am not updating the build in currently on Fantastic experience and solid enough to make it as my daily driver.
But I totally get what you mean! Flashing such experimental ROMs isn't for everyone, I would most def. agree with that and would not necessarily recommend it if you don't want to have to deal with some odd bugs once in a while. And yes, MIUI is a very solid and polished skin (certainly not bug-free tho!!)It's just a little bit too "iOSy" for me.

petros93 said:
Love miui don't know why everyone hates on it.
Will flash cm 13 if it gets stable and see if I like it more on my mi5. If miui 9 gets released before cm 13 gets stable though I won't.
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Mainly because of stupid(the worst) notification system I guess.

Moving from Nexus 5X to OnePlus 3T: Which ROM? How to migrate?

My 3T has arrived, and I want to migrate from my 5X. I have a couple of questions:
Which ROM?
I know this has been discussed ad-infinitum, but I can't see the forest for the trees. I see lots of discussion about Oxygen vs CM / Lineage / Paranoid Android / AOSPE. I can say that even though I'm a "power user" in that I use my phone a lot, I am happy to stay close to the vanilla Android experience with minimal bloatware / "custom" experiences. I will need root for Titanium Backup, Greenify(*), Xposed, and perhaps a couple of other apps. In the olden days, I used CM on my HTC Desire and Moto G, but my Nexus has been just great with the factory ROM. I'm looking for maximum stability rather than tweakability that I'll never use. And sorry for being lazy, but I don't want to try ten ROMs to see what suits me, it will just become a pain.
How to migrate my apps and data?
Just use Titanium Backup? It's worked well for me in the past between different handsets. Or is the Google Android sync working well these days, and everything will just sync when I sign in with my Google Account?
(*) Is Greenify still regarded as useful on a 3T?

OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.

OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.

GR0S said:
OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
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I don't doubt that, I was looking for more of a comparision.
ast00 said:
OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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I do take a lot of photos (snaps, for serious stuff I use a DSLR), so camera quality is important to me. However if we're talking about a small difference between cameras, and the Lineage camera is still fine for most use, I don't think I would use camera quality as a single reason to prefer one ROM to another. Anything else good / better about OxygenOS, or is it mostly bloatware (for someone like me who's quite vanilla ).
It will be weird but good going back to Lineage, as a CM user from many years ago. What about AOSP(E)? Does it feature in the equation?
On one hand, I love the developer-friendliness of OnePlus, on the other hand, there's so much contradictory information out there, it's hard to know what's real. Some people say the cameras are night and day, some say they're similar. Some say battery life is night and day, some say similar. I just edited my original post because I read that Paranoid Android might be a contender... You get my point...
From what you say, I'll definitely use Titanium. I've been with it for years, so I know where I am. In fact, maybe I should stop Google installing the apps so I can do it with Titanium?

I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.

i have been use all rom and the best still oxygen os very stable and minimum bloatware best rom so far but now i tried AOSPA and great but i think the oxygen is best

If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum

FallenFlame said:
I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
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If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.

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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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PA 7.2.3 is android 7.1.2 like other custom roms based on aosp/linage , 2.3 is just their name they call that rom,
And about long term support, here in XDA, we all knows every devs have their life, they could drop their project for works family...
we can't blame them:fingers-crossed:, since we pay nothing but "likes" for their works, PA may discounted, FreedomOS too.But there will many good devs here, in XDA create new good rom for us,
Did you have an nexus5 before?i run it great for years with slimkat, DU... then google dropped support for it and slim disappear, but even now, nexus 5 still can run good with android 7.1.2 Darkrom. and even Gcam with HDR+ from pixel, So dont worry about support. we're in XDA, with little search, try few roms for days, then choose your favorite :good: I'm currently running Viper with google cam, but maybe i will add lastest freedomos as secondary in multirom.
Enjoy your phone,

Oh wow, how silly do I look with the version numbers... Thanks for the clarification!
I wouldn't blame any open source development for not having time, but equally I'd rather use a ROM that gets updated in a reasonable (not quick) time. I just don't have time to spend hours researching every few months.
I have a Nexus 5X, running 7.1.2 from Google, with minimal tweaks. SuperSU, Titanium, Greenify (is that still a thing that people use), AdAway. I've been really happy with that setup.
So it's a funny decision:
PA based on AOSP with many useful things added.
FreedomOS based on Oxygen with non-useful things removed, and a few useful things added?
Did I sum it up reasonably?

Also, are these statements relevant / true?
PA is CAF-based and FreedomOS isn't? If so, should I care?
FreedomOS has Viper4Android and ARISE, which as a music fan I should care about? Or is it just fake audio processing, which actually makes the audio less natural? I'd never heard of either until I started reading about 3T ROMs.

Daily Driver Roms for Oneplus 5 [Discussion]

This is not a place to compare roms, but a place to share your experience with your current daily driver on your Oneplus 5.
What rom are you currently using?
How do you like it?
What is your overall experience with it?
Are you using it with a specific kernel or the built-in one?
Would you recommend it to someone?
Etc...
Let discussion begin!
Note: I think having a thread like this can help keeping development threads clean.

Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
Edit: This was a newbie post. I won't recommend this anymore, since it is outdated and whatsoever...

lekiaM said:
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us. That's helpful! :good:

My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!

rickysidhu_ said:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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Well elaborated. And as you know the device is very new, so hopefully custom roms will become more and more stable with time.
Thanks for sharing!

Share about your daily driver experience here. We want to hear how much you are enjoying your OP5.

I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.

MazeHei said:
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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Thanks for sharing!

Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!

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Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?

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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well

rickysidhu_ said:
As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?

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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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I'm on N as there is no O build available just yet. Signal is completely fine, but I believe there were a couple of users having issues with signal strength.
I've encountered no bugs or issues thus far. I did have random reboots but a clean flash seemed to have helped

Question Should I custom rom

Hi, I have my only good phone which is this redmi note 11. I was wondering if its worth it to flash custom rom and use it as a daily drive either flashing it pixelplusui or pixel experience. Is it gonna make the phone better to use or worsen the experience of this phone.

For me yes you should switch to a custom ROM. MIUI for this device is too nerfed and bugged to begin with. As for experience that depends on your preferred ROM and your device variant (as of now custom ROMs on 4/64 variants too laggy). I personally use Pixel Experience and it definitely made my experience better and what I deserve

Indeed, switching to a custom ROM would improve your experience. I switched to PixelPlus UI because MIUI has so many bugs, flaws, and sporadic app crashes. It was the best decision I ever made. When I flashed the PixelExperience rom, I thought it was a little jittery to use, but PixelPlus UI was the second rom I flashed after that, and it was the best one. I found it to be a lot smoother than PE. I haven't tried EvolutionX or Derpfest, but I plan to someday.

i wouldn't recommend it , i see loads saying yeah do it and then complain about all the bugs in it . have a look at the custom rom posts and see for yourself .

I use latest CrDroid on 4/64 variant and I am 100% satisfied. It's worth to give it a go, or to try some other roms as well. You can always go back to miui if you don't like the experience afterall...

MarvavCZE said:
I use latest CrDroid on 4/64 variant and I am 100% satisfied. It's worth to give it a go, or to try some other roms as well. You can always go back to miui if you don't like the experience afterall...
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Hi Cykip,
If I was to go down custom rom route, I would defo go with what MarvavCZE said... I love CrDroid, have used it for ages on various other devices and it's perfect for me. The amount of pre built-in rom tweaks are amazing, far more than most other roms... I love it, best distro ever....
However, much like The Mero said... I am very happy with stock rom for the time being. This phone is too new (barely 2x weeks old), modern device, and compared to my other phones more expensive. So I am happy with how it works and behaves for now.
Perhaps in a year or two, I may consider it... buts stock for me for time being
Lister of Smeg

lister is right , phone is too new to have a decent custom rom . it can take months or years to fix bugs .
but if you have an old phone try installing one on that . you'll learn how to do it and if it goes badly at least you wont have wrecked your new one

Xiaomi did not yet release the kernel source code officially, I can only recommend to wait until that happens and official custom roms for this device become hyped. Until then, you cannot expect a daily driver.

cykip said:
Hi, I have my only good phone which is this redmi note 11. I was wondering if its worth it to flash custom rom and use it as a daily drive either flashing it pixelplusui or pixel experience. Is it gonna make the phone better to use or worsen the experience of this phone.
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Mate look, everyone know Xiaomi stock UI is worst and it's a master copy of IOS. I was facing a number of issues. Flickering, refresh rate jitters, stupid google dialer plus a lot other that I forgot lol
I went with ppui and cherish is but no gcam module was working on em. Now I'm on rice droid and it is smooth as butter

Trueeee