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This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
I'm satisfied with the Snapdragon 820's integrated DAC, and this is coming from someone who's accumulated thousands of dollars of audio equipment through the years.
I really don't care what my photographs look like on a phone's tiny 1080p screen. I edit and examine my photographs on my computer and the 4K television it outputs them to. I'm satisfied, as long as the phone takes great shots and film that are worthy for future preservation.
It is a little odd for you to post this on the OP3's XDA developer forum, if you're not one who commonly unlocks, roots, and contributes, besides the fact you seem unsatisfied with the phone. I don't think that you will find many people if any who would encourage to switch devices here.
In fact, I really dislike the ZTE brand, they are poor in updating their device's software, the quality control is poor, all three ZTE devices I've owned have suffered hardware failures, one as recent last month with my father's Axon. The developer community and customer service is poor as well. OnePlus has poor customer service, but developer community is among the best.
I wish you luck on your journey.
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Judging by these comparisons I've found, the Axon7 has some advantages, but overall the OP3 still beats it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iln4VouVW-Q
Camera is better on the OP3 except the abysmal camcorder audio, which has been fixed on XDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF-J-zCKQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGzHmIqbkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5sQBh_qnJk
the most important factor for me: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device.
I was in the same situation as you are right now but quickly reconsidered after seeing these videos.
Their ui is ugly too
biglilsteve said:
This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
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Well well... If that bootloader is unlocked I'm in
I'm also on the fence between OP3 and Axon 7; both devices have strong and weak points, but as OP say the ZTE UI and bootloader lock would make the difference.
Quality checks also do have importance, thus it would be nice to hear from existing Axon 7 owners.
You're not on an Axon 7 forum what's the point of this thread? If you want to move on a new phone our opinion doesn't matter.
Well if someone happen to have both, or experience with ZTE, it does. I am also interested to know. The Axon 7 I believe offers 2 UI choices; the ZTE one, and stock Android, which is a big plus (no DnD disabled-slider BS and whatnot). This is a good forum to discuss it, because the audience is tech-savy and can give good feedback on what they know about difference between Op3 and A7, I think.
Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
Axon - ?
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.... Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device...
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This is the most important plus point for OP3 over axon.
And this is the reason I'll always go with OP3
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Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
Axon - ?
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Axon should have better display and audio (both DAC and speakers).
Design and development wise OP3 wins hands down, though.
Im on the same boat, the phone on paper beats the the 1+3 (bigger battery, better screen, better sound, expandable storage, etc) I almost preordered it, there are a few things holding me back, this will be my 1st time buying an ZTE phone, I dont know how good their hardware is, nobody knows anything about their update system, is uncertain if the bootloader will be unlocked, the black/grey version will be coming out the 2nd week of August by that time the next Nexus might already be announced (I know I might want that phone too).
@Giocarro
The OP3 DAC can easily compete with higher priced devices
https://youtu.be/ATxLNEDYqDk?t=1h23m54s
http://pocketnow.com/2016/06/27/oneplus-3-review#toc-7
Initial anecdotal impressions of the OP3 were very positive.
This phone has a clean, punchy, balanced output from the headphone jack,
and this amp is more powerful than the hardware found on the Galaxy S7 or LG G5.
Running this phone through some analyzer tools, it handily beat those two flagships,
and trailed directly behind some of our absolute favorite music phones like the HTC 10 and LG V10,
just nipping at the heels of the iPhone 6S. This was shocking in the best way possible.
The OnePlus 3 sounds like a very good option for the audiophile on a budget.
The bottom firing speaker is no slouch either. Not the loudest we’ve tested for alerts and notifications,
but providing detailed and crisp playback.
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Good discussion guys. @AcmE85, the links you posted are very helpful!
Obviously, I could have taken this post to the ZTE forum but I didn't want to be inundated with responses from people that are overly excited about the ZTE. I figured here, people might be a little more calculated in their responses...and most of you have been. Thank you!
I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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Yeah, your comments were very objective.
I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Looks like the love child of a radiator cover and an LG :laugh:
Buying a phone beased on hardware specs is never a good idea. ZTE is too new in this game. You will just waste money.
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Please explain why you say that. Exclude updates (could be bootloader unlock)
I just got my Axon 7 on Monday, and have played around with it for a couple days. Wanted to share my experience with it so far. I was drawn to the phone because on paper, the specs were mostly superior to the OnePlus 3. However, the ZTE software KILLS IT. It is irritating to use and without any developer support at the moment, there's not much to look forward to. In my experience, the OnePlus 3 has a faster fingerprint scanner, better camera, software, and developer support. And the high end audio on the Axon 7? Honestly the speakers are not THAT great. I find the OnePlus 3 speakers are comparable. Listening through headphones, my OnePlus 3 with Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos actually sound better than the audio from the Axon 7. The capacitive keys are not backlit, making using your phone in the dark a trial-and-error affair when you try tapping your thumb in the area you THINK the buttons are. Add in the fact that ZTE is not even honoring their fancy warranty right now (in the USA at least) due to lack of replacement devices. It's a joke.....
I was originally planning for the Axon 7 to replace my OnePlus 3, but it appears I will hang on to the OP3 instead.
I think speakers and Display are the only things better in Axon 7. Also, it won't be seeing Nougat till 2017 Just guessing
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I just got my Axon 7 on Monday, and have played around with it for a couple days. Wanted to share my experience with it so far. I was drawn to the phone because on paper, the specs were mostly superior to the OnePlus 3. However, the ZTE software KILLS IT. It is irritating to use and without any developer support at the moment, there's not much to look forward to. In my experience, the OnePlus 3 has a faster fingerprint scanner, better camera, software, and developer support. And the high end audio on the Axon 7? Honestly the speakers are not THAT great. I find the OnePlus 3 speakers are comparable. Listening through headphones, my OnePlus 3 with Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos actually sound better than the audio from the Axon 7. The capacitive keys are not backlit, making using your phone in the dark a trial-and-error affair when you try tapping your thumb in the area you THINK the buttons are. Add in the fact that ZTE is not even honoring their fancy warranty right now (in the USA at least) due to lack of replacement devices. It's a joke.....
I was originally planning for the Axon 7 to replace my OnePlus 3, but it appears I will hang on to the OP3 instead.
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I had a similar experience with Zte Axon Elite. There was not support, there were nor updates neither software development, there are not communities yet. In fact, after one year in the market, it is still working with lollipop. To be honest, in spite of the Axon 7 specs are apparently better than OP3, I swore to myself not to buy a ZTE phone never again. In this sense, your experience gives me the reason. I was not wrong. OP3 is simply much better.
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I have a Dolby Atmos that I ported from both Axon 7 and LeTv LeMax 2. The LeMax version is the one that works with our phones.
This should even the playing field for you.
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I just got my Axon 7 on Monday, and have played around with it for a couple days. Wanted to share my experience with it so far. I was drawn to the phone because on paper, the specs were mostly superior to the OnePlus 3. However, the ZTE software KILLS IT. It is irritating to use and without any developer support at the moment, there's not much to look forward to. In my experience, the OnePlus 3 has a faster fingerprint scanner, better camera, software, and developer support. And the high end audio on the Axon 7? Honestly the speakers are not THAT great. I find the OnePlus 3 speakers are comparable. Listening through headphones, my OnePlus 3 with Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos actually sound better than the audio from the Axon 7. The capacitive keys are not backlit, making using your phone in the dark a trial-and-error affair when you try tapping your thumb in the area you THINK the buttons are. Add in the fact that ZTE is not even honoring their fancy warranty right now (in the USA at least) due to lack of replacement devices. It's a joke.....
I was originally planning for the Axon 7 to replace my OnePlus 3, but it appears I will hang on to the OP3 instead.
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I am using V4A. Can you please let me know whether Dolby Atoms is useful? If yes, please me to the thread so I can install.
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I am using V4A. Can you please let me know whether Dolby Atoms is useful? If yes, please me to the thread so I can install.
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If you are running TWRP recovery, just install FreedomOS. It's basically the stock OOS ROM, but in the Aroma options during installation you can select to install Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos together.
That sh*t throttles when charging lol
Hmm, I was looking to switch over.
The whole go to the forums to unlock the bootloader was a big deal for me, but some devs have found a way around that I believe. I also saw someone running TWRP, so Custom ROMs can't be that far right?
But all that will happen when they finally release the damn phone here.
Prince Chandela said:
I think speakers and Display are the only things better in Axon 7. Also, it won't be seeing Nougat till 2017 Just guessing
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I have a feeling that we won't either ... >....<
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I have a feeling that we won't either ... >....<
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I was about to say the same... Oneplus users can't make fun of other manufacturers for not updating when it takes the so long to port
Yup. Bought the A7 from best buy a few weeks ago and really really wanted to like it.
A7 Pros:
+ The A7 speakers truly are superior to the OP3 speakers...I'll give it that. But I do agree that audio from the headphone jack is NOT what I thought it would be, especially considering the "dual independent Hi-Fi processors" or whatever.
+Battery life on the A7 was also noticeably better. Not a HUGE difference, but I could easily get well over 5 hours SOT with the A7, while I get around 4 with the OP3.
+Screen was great and has a better auto-brightness function. Auto-brightness on the OP3 is terrible.
+Having QC3.0 was nice since I could use a standard 2M USB cable while charging. I'm using the 1M Sabrent extension with my OP3 for dash charging and it works fine, but it makes the cable a bit heavier and clunkier. Boy does that A7 get HOT when charging though.
That's about it as far as positives went for me. Negatives:
- I didn't mind the lack of backlit buttons (I don't use the backlights on my OP3 buttons). However, their response area is too small and they are TOO CLOSE TOGETHER. Their positioning is not natural and I could not get used to them after a week and a half of use. This was hugely annoying for me.
- MiFavor is miserable. Period. And no, changing the launcher does NOT remedy it. Anyone that says otherwise is silly.
- Camera low-lighting performance was terrible, muted, and grainy.
- Did I mention the phone gets hot as hell when charging??
- While I did find the fingerprint sensor to be very fast (maybe faster than OP3), I did not prefer the location. It is unnatural for me, probably due to my large hands. It also doesn't have vibrate feedback when a successful scan occurs. It only vibrates when you are unsuccessful. That took a lot of getting used to.
- The gestures are whack. Especially DT2W. It is soooo delayed. Probably a full 1-2 seconds before the phone vibrates and turns the screen on. OP3's is at least twice as fast. I just missed OP3's gestures in general (especially track seek with the screen off).
- What is the deal with the stupid A7 lockscreen??? You have to tap the stupid bell to show notifications. This also exacerbated my frustration with the lack of track seek gestures. To skip a track, I'd have to wake the phone, find and press the bell icon, and find and press the track seek button. This is very distracting while driving.
- Oh, and yeah, a complicated, gimmicky, and warranty-voiding bootloader unlocking procedure. No way there's going to be enough development support to correct all the issues that are present with this phone's user experience.
I bought the phone because I wanted a sweet screen and awesome speakers...I just gave up waaaaaay too much in order to get those things. Returned to best buy while still within the return period. Couldn't be happier to be back on the OP3.
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Yup. Bought the A7 from best buy a few weeks ago and really really wanted to like it.
That is exactly my experience! Thanks for the post.
I have to add that no option for on screen nav bar really sucked because, as stated above, the capacitive were too close and not backlit. And what about no option for ambient display, that stupid bell? The op3 is like a moto x with wave to wake and killer ambient display which works immediately upon pulling from pocket. Nice job op3!
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Trust me, if only OnePlus added another speaker on top and the sd card/dual sim combo tray, op3 will crush this A-crap 7 and all those flagships easily.
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biglilsteve said:
Yup. Bought the A7 from best buy a few weeks ago and really really wanted to like it.
That is exactly my experience! Thanks for the post.
I have to add that no option for on screen nav bar really sucked because, as stated above, the capacitive were too close and not backlit. And what about no option for ambient display, that stupid bell? The op3 is like a moto x with wave to wake and killer ambient display which works immediately upon pulling from pocket. Nice job op3!
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Yup, +1!
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corrupt1234 said:
Trust me, if only OnePlus added another speaker on top and the sd card/dual sim combo tray, op3 will crush this A-crap 7 and all those flagships easily.
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Wellll, to play devil's advocate, the A7 would be a crusher too if it had Oxygen OS haha
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luckily zte axon is not available in india and even if it was available i'd not buy since there is hardly any devs interested in that phone, where as oneplus and nexus are dev's favourites. we had custom roms for oneplus the next day it was released.
bonham1988 said:
luckily zte axon is not available in india and even if it was available i'd not buy since there is hardly any devs interested in that phone, where as oneplus and nexus are dev's favourites. we had custom roms for oneplus the next day it was released.
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The OP3 is such a good phone and OOS is such a good UI that I haven't even unlocked or rooted yet. And honestly I currently have no plans to.
On the A7, it would be mandatory though!
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The OP3 is such a good phone and OOS is such a good UI that I haven't even unlocked or rooted yet. And honestly I currently have no plans to.
On the A7, it would be mandatory though!
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Even i havent rooted my phone yet but i'll probably do it when 7 based roms come out though i'll revert back to stock as soon as official oos is released. It seems they've learned from their past mistakes and have been releasing updates and bug fixes pretty quickly.
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I am still using my Axon 7 as my daily driver since the place I bought it from has a 30-day return period. I rooted it so I can debloat, install Adblock, Greenify, and change the DPI (so icons and text are not huge). Also using Nova Launcher. This has made the phone MUCH more tolerable, as I still REALLY REALLY want to like this phone. The only main gripes that remain are low-light camera performance, non-backlit capcitive keys, and the lockscreen bell. Many say that all these remaining issues can be eliminated through software updates (better camera post-processing, enabling on-screen buttons, and removing that bell). Unfortunately, that is a BIG IF.
On screen buttons are not a fix because then you are wasting screen real estate. But yeah everything else can be solved with solid AOSP ROMs and better camera processing. But yeah, dev support is just not looking like it's going to happen.
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Now I'm doubly-glad I didn't take a risk and go with the Axon 7! Just like the OP said, the Axon had a bit better specs in some respects (ex. expandable storage), less in others (RAM), but the developer community strength for the OP3 pulled me in that direction. I'm sure if I was more of a casual user it wouldn't be an issue....but the casual user doesn't end up on XDA, at least not for long
This has been my first Android phone since probably the Nexus 5. I've been on iOS ever since then. iOS has been great. The phones were always fast and they always worked. Camera was also really good. My experiences were great. Although the phones were overpriced and they were from Apple which I hated tbh.
So I decided to switch over to Android.
First impressions with the OnePlus 3T were pretty good. The phone's screen was awesome and the battery was incredible! I was on 3.5.3 and I was really enjoying the phone. But then shortly after that, the problems started coming in.
First, the issues with T-Mobile started popping up. I was getting EXTREMELY slow network speeds. I mean they were 0.34 - 1.60mbps DLs and around 1.2 - 2.0mbps upload on a good day an excellent coverage. I was having trouble streaming Spotify. I couldn't really get around it until I upgraded to 3.5.4. Now the speeds are decent with around 10mbps DLs and 3mbps upload. Still much slower then what I had on my iPhone. But upgrading to this OS has decreased battery life significantly! I can barely get a day out of my phone now with moderate use. I've tried clearing cache, checking rogue apps but still it's just horrible.
Second, camera is pretty bad. It's a bit slow at times and low light performance is pretty bad. And this isn't like extreme low light. I'm talking about if I were in a dim room the pictures would come out grainy and dark. Not sure if this is software related or hardware.
Third, I feel as if OnePlus support is pretty bad. Is this just me? I've been looking at other posts throughout they're phone releases and it always seems as if they have problems one way or another.
I don't know. Where my expectations too high when switching to Android again? I mean I know this is a "budget" phone so I shouldn't be expecting too much but I really wanted the phone to work one way or another. What do you guys think? Will OnePlus eventually be able to fix the quirks in the software?
Here is another guy who just switched and kind of having similar issue. I guess the price is around 1/3 so i have reduced my expectations to 1/3 which in a way 1+3T is performing better than that.
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This has been my first Android phone since probably the Nexus 5. I've been on iOS ever since then. iOS has been great. The phones were always fast and they always worked. Camera was also really good. My experiences were great. Although the phones were overpriced and they were from Apple which I hated tbh.
So I decided to switch over to Android.
First impressions with the OnePlus 3T were pretty good. The phone's screen was awesome and the battery was incredible! I was on 3.5.3 and I was really enjoying the phone. But then shortly after that, the problems started coming in.
First, the issues with T-Mobile started popping up. I was getting EXTREMELY slow network speeds. I mean they were 0.34 - 1.60mbps DLs and around 1.2 - 2.0mbps upload on a good day an excellent coverage. I was having trouble streaming Spotify. I couldn't really get around it until I upgraded to 3.5.4. Now the speeds are decent with around 10mbps DLs and 3mbps upload. Still much slower then what I had on my iPhone. But upgrading to this OS has decreased battery life significantly! I can barely get a day out of my phone now with moderate use. I've tried clearing cache, checking rogue apps but still it's just horrible.
Second, camera is pretty bad. It's a bit slow at times and low light performance is pretty bad. And this isn't like extreme low light. I'm talking about if I were in a dim room the pictures would come out grainy and dark. Not sure if this is software related or hardware.
Third, I feel as if OnePlus support is pretty bad. Is this just me? I've been looking at other posts throughout they're phone releases and it always seems as if they have problems one way or another.
I don't know. Where my expectations too high when switching to Android again? I mean I know this is a "budget" phone so I shouldn't be expecting too much but I really wanted the phone to work one way or another. What do you guys think? Will OnePlus eventually be able to fix the quirks in the software?
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I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
bert90987 said:
I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
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iOS is laggy as hell, at least on my iPhone 7 Plus.. Many skipped frames in animations.
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iOS is laggy as hell, at least on my iPhone 7 Plus.. Many skipped frames in animations.
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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
Is there a particular application you are referring to?
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I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
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That is very true. It's like a trade off. Android is very free and customizable while iOS is very restrictive. Jailbreaking helps but not as much as Android.
I mean don't get me wrong, I like this phone. There's just trade offs I guess with it. Honestly, if I were to get the battery life of 3.5.3 and the LTE band modifications from 3.5.4, I would say this phone would be near perfect. At least for me, in my opinion.
Hopefully it happens with Android N.
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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
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Very odd. Never had any issues with my 6s. It ran smooth as hell. Cache did build up once and got laggy but I had it jailbroken and cleared it up. Ran perfect after that.
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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
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No, the whole system is laggy. Just google iPhone 7 Plus lag. 6s and 6p are both much smoother. S6 is just a lagfest.
Michalko5896 said:
No, the whole system is laggy. Just google iPhone 7 Plus lag. 6s and 6p are both much smoother. S6 is just a lagfest.
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I know that initially it wasn't optimized great (the iPhone 7 plus) but 10.2 seems to work fine for me. I definitely experience more lag and random heat up of the devices with the Nexus 6p and S6 edge plus both on Marshmallow. I sold them before Nougat so I can't speak for their performance with those updates.
I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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Any phone on the cheaper end that you'd recommend that has a good DAC? thanks
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Any phone on the cheaper end that you'd recommend that has a good DAC? thanks
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ZTE Axon 7?
Michalko5896 said:
ZTE Axon 7?
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That's true.
I have been thinking about getting a portable dac to use with any smartphone though. the highest impedance headphones I have are 250 ohms. they're not really portable but would be nice to try out.
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I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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I agree. For the price, this phone is really hard to beat! Like I said, I do like it, just wish I could use 3.5.3 with the LTE bands fix for T-Mobile that's in 3.5.4.
I've used multiple Android phones in the past. This has been one of the most fluid and smooth devices I have yet to use. At this point, I'm just giving it time. Hopefully the software (new OOS) does make the phone better.
Guess you can't complain when this phone is under $500.
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Any phone on the cheaper end that you'd recommend that has a good DAC? thanks
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Axon 7 (not as smooth) $350 off swappa
LG v10 (not as smooth) $250 off Swappa
HTC 10 $400 off swappa
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Axon 7 (not as smooth) $350 off swappa
LG v10 (not as smooth) $250 off Swappa
HTC 10 $400 off swappa
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Thanks
NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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That sucks. hopefully you have it fixed quickly.
alvin182 said:
NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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Damn that sucks dude. Hopefully you get it fixed. Everyone's talked so highly of OnePlus before but just doesn't like a great company.
Hope you get it fixed man!
Looks like the Android N update has made my phone a lot more smooth and battery life seems to be a lot better than 3.5.4. Fingers crossed. Good thing I decided to wait it out.
Hello Everyone
I'm stuck between OnePlus 3T, Google Pixel and iPhone7. Please suggest me which one will be good for me.
My main usage is internet and social media and much interested in photography. Which of the above-mentioned mobiles will be having a better camera? I think this forum will help me with all doubts regarding android mobiles.
Thanks in advance.
Hahahaha
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Better battery life/charging speed/CPU+6GB of RAM/128GB UF2.0 great full HD display looks like Samsung QHD but without the battery drain. Phone is a great device. iPhone 7 Is s great iPhone. It all depends what you really are. A true Android user will never go to iPhone but hey. It's OK
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i was a user of nexus from long time but since my nexus5x died i dont want to buy pixel not becouse i dont like it i like it a lot just becouse its too much price to pay
pixel has the best camera.
but the 3T isnt far away and smartphones arent made for photography anyway. so who cares.
3T is much better at the rest + price
alicia19 said:
Hello Everyone
I'm stuck between OnePlus 3T, Google Pixel and iPhone7. Please suggest me which one will be good for me.
My main usage is internet and social media and much interested in photography. Which of the above-mentioned mobiles will be having a better camera? I think this forum will help me with all doubts regarding android mobiles.
Thanks in advance.
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iPhone will be the best for you.
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Pixel is good but considerably overpriced. One Plus 3T was 50% cheaper for me.
The pixel has a better camera but who uses a phone for decent photography anyway?
Iphone 7 has no headphone jack and is even more overpriced then the pixel. And a terrible locked down ecosystem which is slowly catching up and copying Android for features.
It really depends what you're looking for. The Pixel has a better camera and display but the 3T has better performance and is a lot cheaper.
My wife has the Pixel. I have the 3T flashed with the Pixel Experience. Side by side compression running the same OS. I like the 3T. It's faster, runs smoother. It's thinner, with a better fingerprint reader. Has a longer battery life and charges faster. Bear in mind the 3T's rooted but most importantly I paid $487 for it and $949 for the Pixel. It's really up to you though, their both good phones.
Pixel is only better at the camera. Same with Iphone. Everything else oneplus3T wins. Overall Oneplus easily takes the cake cause it is half the price.
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Pixel is only better at the camera. Same with Iphone. Everything else oneplus3T wins. Overall Oneplus easily takes the cake cause it is half the price.
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The 3Ts display is quite poor, it look grainy.
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The 3Ts display is quite poor, it look grainy.
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I don't notice any graininess on mine... You using SRGB?
Heck, I have used mine even for VR and it doesn't look bad at all. When I bought this phone I thought the screen was gona be 'meh' from people's description of pentile displays, but I was super surprised at how good it looks.
Google pixel is honestly better for photo, and remarkably even with the smaller battery on stock it handles pretty damn well with 4-5 hours SOT.
I have both, I used my pixel for 3 weeks rooted, the wife used hers stock the same time frame. She got better battery life than me but I got a snappier and more customized ROM experience (DU).
I went with the one plus 3t for the storage, ram and bigger battery. Along with the screen size so its easier typing again (came from the one plus 2).
The one plus battery life is excellent on stock, 6-7hrs of SOT without any social media messenger apps.
Now that I'm rooted, and have kernel control, I get 7-8hrs of SOT and a lot more snappier between apps and boot.
I like that I also can use multirom like I used to on nearly all my old phones, I love the ability to change my ROM if I should run into an issue or want to use something "different".
The pixel doesn't have that customization ability really, custom ROMs have to include gapps because the partition is quite peculiar on the google pixel too.
The one plus 3t will take you sometime to study and learn about its partition abilities and what recovery/ROM is right for you, but after you learn and set it up on a custom ROM you'll love it!
Just my two cents!
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I don't notice any graininess on mine... You using SRGB?
Heck, I have used mine even for VR and it doesn't look bad at all. When I bought this phone I thought the screen was gona be 'meh' from people's description of pentile displays, but I was super surprised at how good it looks.
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No, I'm not using Srgb. After using a 2k display for over 2 years, going back to a 1080 pentile is not nice. I can clearly see the graininess of the Pixels, given its a pentile display its really only a 800-900 effective resolution and I think it shows. The colours are great but the resolution is a problem.
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No, I'm not using Srgb. After using a 2k display for over 2 years, going back to a 1080 pentile is not nice. I can clearly see the graininess of the Pixels, given its a pentile display its really only a 800-900 effective resolution and I think it shows. The colours are great but the resolution is a problem.
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Your starring to much at your screen pal lol
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The 3Ts display is quite poor, it look grainy.
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That is about as far from the truth as it gets. I'll take the full HD screen of the 3T over the Pixel. Unless you have them side by side, you don't see a difference. And I'll take the extra battery life any day.
alicia19 said:
Hello Everyone
I'm stuck between OnePlus 3T, Google Pixel and iPhone7. Please suggest me which one will be good for me.
My main usage is internet and social media and much interested in photography. Which of the above-mentioned mobiles will be having a better camera? I think this forum will help me with all doubts regarding android mobiles.
Thanks in advance.
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IPhone7 bro
if you want great battery life and camera get the s7 edge.... if you only want the best camera and fast software updates get the pixel.... don't get the oneplus 3t if you want a great camera, the phone is great in other aspects but average in the camera department.
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That is about as far from the truth as it gets. I'll take the full HD screen of the 3T over the Pixel. Unless you have them side by side, you don't see a difference. And I'll take the extra battery life any day.
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I have to completely disagree. I can most definitely notice it in day to day usage.
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I have to completely disagree. I can most definitely notice it in day to day usage.
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I'm not disagreeing that the Pixel has a better screen, it certainly does. But as far as the 3T screen being grainy, that just simply isn't the case.
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I have to completely disagree. I can most definitely notice it in day to day usage.
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You need to spend less time focusing on the pixels. TBH, I've had mine for almost a month now and haven't seen any grains. The only disapointment for me is the noise on photos I take (was expecting it to be none, considering that OP presented it with great denoise technology). But the display is perfect. Honestly the display is better than my laptops.
I currently have a 6p and it´s not performing to full potential anymore, and i want to upgrade soon..... Did any of you go from 6p to opt3?
This phone performs 100 times better, so glad I sold the Nexus 6p to buy it.
Yes, my nexus6P died because he bootloop, I bought a oneplus3T, it was a great device, I like him.
Yes, I sold my RMA 6P because of battery issues. The OP3T is much, much faster than the 6P, it's like lightning compared to it. Battery life is also much better, I get around 6.30hrs SOT compared to the 4+on the 6P. The OP3T is let down by its screen, I find the 1080 pentile screen quite ugly and I can see it grainy compared to the 6P. I also find the 6P camera to be better especially in low light. So there are pluses and minuses to both phones.
I also jumped ship 2 days a go. So far i really love it, it looks much better and i really love the fingerprint scanner at the front..
It indeed performs much better and battery seems to be much better as well. Cameraman the won't be as good as the Nexus but it won't be a huge difference. I haven't compared them myself though. So far I'm trying some roms to see which one i like the most. The screen is just great, nice colours as well. 1080p is a plus for a mobile device, the screens are way too small to see the difference between a qhd screen. And a qhd screen consumes a lot of battery.
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I also jumped ship 2 days a go. So far i really love it, it looks much better and i really love the fingerprint scanner at the front..
It indeed performs much better and battery seems to be much better as well. Cameraman the won't be as good as the Nexus but it won't be a huge difference. I haven't compared them myself though. So far I'm trying some roms to see which one i like the most. The screen is just great, nice colours as well. 1080p is a plus for a mobile device, the screens are way too small to see the difference between a qhd screen. And a qhd screen consumes a lot of battery.
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Modern day QHD screens don't use anymore battery than poor quality 1080 panels. It's a myth. The modern Samsung QHD panels use less power now than the poor quality 1080 panels used in the OP3. The S7 Edge can easily get over 7hours SOT and that's comparable to the OP3.
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Modern day QHD screens don't use anymore battery than poor quality 1080 panels. It's a myth. The modern Samsung QHD panels use less power now than the poor quality 1080 panels used in the OP3. The S7 Edge can easily get over 7hours SOT and that's comparable to the OP3.
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If the screen itself consume less power its another thing. But the GPU has to work more on a QHD panel.
Migdilu said:
If the screen itself consume less power its another thing. But the GPU has to work more on a QHD panel.
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That affects performance then, not battery drain. As I said, the S7 Edge has similar battery drain to the 3T and that's a QHD display.
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That affects performance then, not battery drain. As I said, the S7 Edge has similar battery drain to the 3T and that's a QHD display.
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Depends on the gpu behavior. It probably will affect battery drain because the GPU will work harder to get nice performance, it will affect performance in heavy tasks for the GPU, like heavy games. But its always affecting battery, not too much of course, but it does.
Also, I repeat, maybe the panel uses less power, that is a different thing.
I have both, but iam using oneplu3t more now borh have their profs and cons cam is no comperison on n6p much better fingerprint accuracy and placing on the back and stereo speakers goes to 6p
Speed bettery life screen is no issue here on 3t nothrotling build quality 6 gigs ram so here what ithink if the cam were good like 6p itwould be clear winner
I have both, i bought 1+ 3t recently and im using it as my daily driver, but im missing the stereo speakers and the camera performance, otherwise, the battery and phone performace is outstanding...i may return back to nexus 6p due to better development foundation
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I'm in between selling my 6p and waiting for the 3t to ship. I'm jumping because of main board and software issues and do not want to be stuck with a dead out of warranty phone. I will miss the speakers for sure and am a little concerned about the camera. Is it isolated or across the board slow?
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kenhicg said:
I'm in between selling my 6p and waiting for the 3t to ship. I'm jumping because of main board and software issues and do not want to be stuck with a dead out of warranty phone. I will miss the speakers for sure and am a little concerned about the camera. Is it isolated or across the board slow?
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The camera isn't slow, it just takes poorer quality photos than the 6P. It's fast when taking them though.
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The camera isn't slow, it just takes poorer quality photos than the 6P. It's fast when taking them though.
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I would have thought it would be better. How much worse is it?
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kenhicg said:
I would have thought it would be better. How much worse is it?
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It's struggles in low light and also struggles in general to focus. In bright light it's decent. The 6P is a better camera overall.
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It's struggles in low light and also struggles in general to focus. In bright light it's decent. The 6P is a better camera overall.
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Well that kind of sucks but oh well.
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