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this is how much Ram firefox is using as I start to type this message.
Ok so recently I've been realizing that firefox has been making my computer very very slow. especially when i watch youtube videos they lag horribly! I checked my task manager and firefox was using 800mb of RAM!!! the number seemed to keep rising too! On the Average I have about 10 tabs constantly open.. usually more when there are lots of new topics, but in the end I'm back to about 10.
I tried a test... 2 actually...
my first test is opening all 3 browsers (chrome, firefox, and opera), Open 10 tabs, then simply go to the task manager to check how much RAM each is using. my second test it periodically glancing at the task manager as i type this message.
179,440
that is how much firefox is at now. I have done NOTHING with firefox, I'm typing this message on chrome.. the number seems to rise on it's own! It's like it's storing an infinite cache!
Now let's look at the other browsers... I've let them sit for a while with 10 tabs open...
chrome - 43,620k
opera - 99,312k
firefox - 182,314k
after about an hour or less of browsing firefox usually makes it to 800,000k+. Is this happening for anyone else?
edit: I just had to kill the task because I was checking my myspace and all the sudden it wasn't responding. I check the task manager and im at 100% CPU usage and it's using 600mb ram.
The Memory Leak in FireFox 2 is a well known bug. FireFox 3 does not have that leak.
Unfortunately, the memoryleak is still present in FF3.
I use this tool to free-up RAM, FreeRAM XP Pro:
http://www.yourwaresolutions.com/
I hate Firefox. Me and a few buddies of mine on another forum always quarrel and have this debate (I would link to the thread but..). I gave it a fair game and went out to try it. Now i'm forced to use it since i crashed my HD and have to boot Linux. Let me say...it's HORRIBLE.
I liked IE7 way more. FX renders the page horribly. It'll display user avatar instead of showing it, no new posts instead of showing the icon, smiley face html instead of the real face, etc.
As soon as i get my laptop fixed, i'm going back to IE7.
And o yea, IE8 is the worst thing Microsoft has EVER unveiled.
IE8 is still in beta dude. Wait for it to perfect
Regards,
Carty..
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IE8 is still in beta dude. Wait for it to perfect
Regards,
Carty..
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I know that and personally i wouldn't even call it an Alpha; it's that bad.
In my experience Opera is the best!!
maybe in 1 or 2 years Chrome will be a good one also
I've got to say Opera is the best. I stuck with IE7 for a while, but I got sick of the crashes, so I tried Firefox. I had it set to reload my prev tabs on reopen. Well, Firefox crashed at some point, then when I tried to reopen Firefox, it would crash again because of the saved crash point.
Not to mention Opera has the Speed Dial page along with slide gestures.
lol IE8... it was like the developers were in the middle of typing their code and all the sudden they said File>Save and released it as a beta. Usually beta's have some error, but not too bad, they should atleast be stable. Like someone mentioned above, shouldnt even be considered an alpha.
Opera is great except no spell check, i should google and see if there is a plugin for this.
chome's spell check is horrible. it has probably 500 words total in it's dictionary. Some words it didn't think existed, such as the word familiar, (and i cant remember what the others were). I'm sure in the future this will be fixed.
I like everything about firefox, even the fact that I have downloaded a speed dial for it!
I'm having issues with youtube and firefox, same with chrome. youtube videos only play for about 2 seconds and then stop, also there is no sound. I have to exit and wait for the task to be killed and then try again. anyone else having these problems with youtube? IE and opera dont seem to suffer this problem.
Firefox on *Nix works well The new IE isnt all that bad at memory ive noticed, but then ive never noticed Firefox having an issue either on my work laptop. Maybe you need more ram? 8gb on my dual Xeon tower runs nicely
dude i have 4gb of ram.
and this is what i have open at ALL times.
Photoshop CS3 Extended.
Mozilla Firefox 3
iTunes
and it still runs smooth! :O
I have 1.5 Gb
And I have always open
Opera (At least 6 tabs)
Messenger
Phonostar
Outlook
And I can´t really complain, average response is ok... (Vista included)
Firefox 3 does not have the memory leak present in everything pre-v3 beta 5, so it's something else. I've been using FF3 since the late alphas and the bug was there all the way up to beta 5 when it disappeared and they made dramatic improvements in speed and memory usage.
If you're complaining about RAM usage in a browser these days, perhaps you just need to get more RAM to begin with. I've had Firefox 3 loaded up with 40 tabs of Flash-laden content of all kinds and image galleries with hundreds of pics and barely see 400MB of usage so, I can't imagine why people even bother to complain anymore unless they're stuck with 1 GHz Celeron and 256MB of PC133 RAM...
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dude i have 4gb of ram.
and this is what i have open at ALL times.
Photoshop CS3 Extended.
Mozilla Firefox 3
iTunes
and it still runs smooth! :O
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LOL i was being sarcastic although 4gb isnt too bad seeing as how its your max amount on a true 32 bit OS
I on the otherhand am running a few different flavors on my tower ( Vista is a beast on there but I MUCH prefer leopard ) so the 8GB comes in handy esp when im watching tv on 1 monitor, working with CS3 on the other and have 5-10 tabs open in firefox
if you guys read my first post, you would see firefox takes up significantly more RAM than the other 2 browsers I tried. keeping firefox running for up to an hour uses 800mb of ram!
while opera and chrome manage to stay around 100mb or under, with the same amount of tabs or more!!
also, another thing happened today, I left firefox open and walked away from my computer to play guitar, I played for about 20 minutes, and when I got back it says "not responding" and I checked the task manager and it was at 856mb! I only had one tab open and it was minimized. There is defiantly something wrong, the other browsers dont do this.
IE7 is ok, no memory or compatibility issues, but no spell check and crashes too much.
great news!
i found a spellchecker for opera, I'm gonna try it now!
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/opera/spellcheck/
not so great news!
im 7yping this !n opera right now, and aS uuu can see it doesnt even fix my err0rz!!'
It looks like you have to right click and click "spellcheck" and then it searches for spelling mistakes, but that isnt as simple as the red underline to indicate an error.
Firefox still tops spellcheck!
If you read my response you will see I asked what version of FireFox you are running, It really makes quite a difference.
FireFox 3 Is much more leaner on the Memory.
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If you read my response you will see I asked what version of FireFox you are running, It really makes quite a difference.
FireFox 3 Is much more leaner on the Memory.
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heheh
yup I'm using FF3, and I've heard the exact oppisite! I heard that in FF2 there was no memory problem and it appeared in FF3.
the exact version (that says in about) I'm using is 3.0.3.
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Firefox 3 does not have the memory leak present in everything pre-v3 beta 5, so it's something else. I've been using FF3 since the late alphas and the bug was there all the way up to beta 5 when it disappeared and they made dramatic improvements in speed and memory usage.
If you're complaining about RAM usage in a browser these days, perhaps you just need to get more RAM to begin with. I've had Firefox 3 loaded up with 40 tabs of Flash-laden content of all kinds and image galleries with hundreds of pics and barely see 400MB of usage so, I can't imagine why people even bother to complain anymore unless they're stuck with 1 GHz Celeron and 256MB of PC133 RAM...
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...or unless they are running Vista.
I never seen something hog so much power when idle. Anyway yeah, FF uses a lot of RAM. You might want to invest in an additional GB
my firefox is only using 85,148k no real awesome computer either, only running on 1gb ram vista pre sp1 and a core2 that runs at 1.6ghz
Im on got 2.2 but this happened to me with 2.1 too, is really annoying, multitasking is not executed well, my programs keep closing :/ 70-80% of the times i press the home button while im playing music+using the browser+using trillian or behive launcher pro loads the whole homescreen and widgets :/ , if switch to the browser, it reloads the websites or loads the homepage , am i doing something wrong?
i tought 256 mb wasnt that horrible for a smartphone
i blame android.
i was ok with my phone til the last week. i got an ipod touch 4g. 256mb only on that one and people complained it was a neutered iphone but damn it smokes my milestone in day to day tasks. granted it can't make a call, but im pretty pissed that android still lacks the optimization we need.
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Im on got 2.2 but this happened to me with 2.1 too, is really annoying, multitasking is not executed well, my programs keep closing :/ 70-80% of the times i press the home button while im playing music+using the browser+using trillian or behive launcher pro loads the whole homescreen and widgets :/ , if switch to the browser, it reloads the websites or loads the homepage , am i doing something wrong?
i tought 256 mb wasnt that horrible for a smartphone
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Same thing happened to me on 2.2 but on 2.1 it runs very smooth... Try "Keep in memory" setting from Launcher Pro --> Preferences
is there any method to optimize the ram usage of android. i thought that a milestone is better then iphone, i still think it is,but if the android system dont get better, iphone will smoke all of us in the pipe.
the first thing i noticed when i holded my milestone in my hands was, damn is it fast and brilliant, better then the iphone, the same day i started modding and overclocking and things like that. i gave him a little too much vsel, .... and since then i think it has gotten slower :/ , maybe some of you had the same expirience
Guys, please consider the fact, that google has to optimize their OS for different smartphone setups from different manufacturers ... the iOS featured in the iPhone and iPod Touch has been completely optimized on their hardware, since iOS isnt featured outside the apple family of handhelds. Because of this, the optimisation and integration is WAY more comfortable, Google has a ****load of work to do to consider the many different phones besides their nexus one.
give it time guys. MIUI handles the memory management already pretty good, runs way more responsive that stock android.
It's problem of the apps and widget you are using, download a app call system pannel, you will find out many apps and widget take up so many ram.
and 2.2 got leak have a problem which make the launcher redraw so often.
for launcher pro, there is an options to keep it in memory.
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Same thing happened to me on 2.2 but on 2.1 it runs very smooth... Try "Keep in memory" setting from Launcher Pro --> Preferences
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i just checked that option, it says its experimental tough , theres a couple of exta ptins:
memory usage preset: high,mediu,moderate,low...
homescreen cache type: normal compressed,light
Should i mess with this setings too?
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Guys, please consider the fact, that google has to optimize their OS for different smartphone setups from different manufacturers ... the iOS featured in the iPhone and iPod Touch has been completely optimized on their hardware, since iOS isnt featured outside the apple family of handhelds. Because of this, the optimisation and integration is WAY more comfortable, Google has a ****load of work to do to consider the many different phones besides their nexus one.
give it time guys. MIUI handles the memory management already pretty good, runs way more responsive that stock android.
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piss poor excuse. there's not much rocket science going into optimizing a homescreen smoothness.
The A4 chip the iPhone 4 uses is more similar to a Samsung Hummingbird.
The OMAP chip the 3GS uses is similar to the one we have in the Droid/Milestone.
The old ARM11 chips in the 2G/3G/iPod Touch 1g/2G/3g 8gb is different too.
The fact is Apple has accounted for 3 types of CPUs and while they are all ARM architecture, it's similar to the fact we have Qualcomm, TI, and Samsung CPUs floating around. Even Google's own Nexus One is piss poor smooth on the homescreen.
Granted here at XDA we've already ROMed the hell out of our phones, but the fact that I'm still ashamed when I whip out my Milestone just to show my friends Facebook, and they ALWAYS comment on how choppy it is despite my 1100mhz overclock or whatever. I'll even reboot just before hanging out with them just in case I need to do some stuff. Android is just too freaking slow.
i am using cronos froyo 1.5 and i must say i am suprised, it is a good rom, fast and stabil,and trust me i testes many roms, maybe all?
so is there a way of modifing a rom (maybe cronos) to get rid of all the services that are not needed for a normal user? maybe it would be more ram available this way... aint it?
I think that 256 mb ram are enough. Try eclair mod v0.3b. It is very fast and i get about 110mb free ram. I use Advanced task killer and Estrong task manager. I have them both on my homescreen and when i tap them both I get 110mb ram free.
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the task killer is an option i dont want to use, because android should manage that him self, but maybe tere are some services that are not needed, so we can delete them, and make a slim rom. do someone know what services are not needed, and how we can wipe them?
Granted here at XDA we've already ROMed the hell out of our phones, but the fact that I'm still ashamed when I whip out my Milestone just to show my friends Facebook, and they ALWAYS comment on how choppy it is despite my 1100mhz overclock or whatever. I'll even reboot just before hanging out with them just in case I need to do some stuff. Android is just too freaking slow.
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Ha ha I have to do that exact same thing, so embarrassing as it always happens just after I've sung praises for Android!
Yriel40k said:
I think that 256 mb ram are enough. Try eclair mod v0.3b. It is very fast and i get about 110mb free ram. I use Advanced task killer and Estrong task manager. I have them both on my homescreen and when i tap them both I get 110mb ram free.
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On milestone? Don't believe it. Pleas post some screenshots so I can be amazed
As Milestone has really terrible hardware spec (cpu, ram, flash) I am still hoping someone would start to build ultra-lite version of the android without any non-essential services running, applications on flash, launchers, wallpapers, etc.
Regarding the multitasking - yes when I try to open second app I am holding my breath whether the first one will get killed or will survive
IMO it was depend on which rom u were used.
Try live home for launcher its pretty fast and handles multitasking
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Do you use any weather and clock widgets-if yes there is a option called refresh when home is pressed you disable it and your screen would come alive much faster.
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I have never be success on milestone, always restarting
I would say it probably more have to do with Motorola for not taking the effort to optimize Android's software for the Milestone, my friend X8 is smoother than mine despite having only 168MB(!) of RAM and he used live wallpapers too. 2.2 also for some reason seems to be very sluggish as compared to 2.1/2.3
Anyway I also believe that because of our higher resolution screen (854 x 480), more RAM is needed as more resource is needed for greater resolution and phones usually reserved more RAM (slightly) for connectivity purposes (cell tower) which lead to a "shortage" of free RAM on our milestone.
Though no doubt, I would say iOS have a slightly better memory management than Android but Android is not that bad given that the Nexus One prior to 2.2/2.3, the amount of RAM available for them is 40mb less than Milestone due to a bug but it still flies. Shows alot that effort to optimize by the OEMs matter more rather than Android itself.
I had Android for a while, and I remember there was an App that broke down Battery/Cpu usage. It would even keep track of how long the screen was on, what was being used most that could potentially be using the battery more.
Ive yet to see an App like this for WP7, let alone 8. Is it even possible? Or is it just yet another thing impossible due to MS lock down on some aspects of the phone OS?
I really do like this OS, but it seems more and more, MS's lock down really hurts development, preventing Devs from really bringing out the most of the OS and prevents functions and abilities youd normally think would exist.
I can understand the want for an app like this (I had it on android myself), but since switching over to WP8 I don't see the need.
All the apps on here run very well and nothing is going crazy like it does with android. Locking down the OS is a good thing sometimes, devs have a much harder tune creating system level apps that run way out of control or have memory leaks that cause battery to run dry in an hour. The only thing I have done is gone to the background apps in settings and stopped what I didn't want running in there.
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I can understand the want for an app like this (I had it on android myself), but since switching over to WP8 I don't see the need.
All the apps on here run very well and nothing is going crazy like it does with android. Locking down the OS is a good thing sometimes, devs have a much harder tune creating system level apps that run way out of control or have memory leaks that cause battery to run dry in an hour. The only thing I have done is gone to the background apps in settings and stopped what I didn't want running in there.
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I initially thought this when I had WP7 and a Trophy. Now that I have the 920, I would love to have this. Partially just to prove out that using my phone (screen on) and games and other things just eats up the battery like crazy. Others over at WPCentral have also posted issues with the battery. Many people have in fact. It would be very useful to some of us who are experiencing issues.
I know some claim to get over a day or more use out of their 920. I, among many others, could only dream of such a thing, or perhaps achieve it if we just didnt do much with our phones.
I disagree on the lock down. While I get your point, having used Android also, I enjoyed many great apps that just wont ever be possible on WP's. No other email clients, no true 3rd party browser not built on IE, no new keyboards to name a few. Some of these apps I had used on Android really were superior to what Ive seen MS do with WP. Which is why I think sometimes 3rd party Devs or home Devs sometimes can just do things better as well as think outside the box and give us real options. You dont get real options for many thing on WP. Everyone is stuck with the same keyboard, browser, mail, messaging client, etc.
True...but remember, there was a time when nothing like that was available for Android either.
Devs have made things more than possible - granted an open system helps - but don't discount what may become available in the future.
Yes there are battery monitor apps for Windows Phone 8. Battery Level for Windows Phone 8 seems to be the most popular. The nice part is that it will autoupdate the live tile with the battery level and you can add it to the lockscreen to show it there as well. It's not quite as in depth as Android with regards to telling you what is pulling the most power but as others have mentioned on WP8 it's a slightly different mechanic than Android as the background processes are a lot more regulated with regards to how they can do that (as are the developers when making their apps). It would be kind of interesting to see something like Android's built-in battery stats but I honestly haven't really haven't had any problems (not that I was really having problems on Android either).
Battery Measure is similar, and has a free version with ads - live tile, graph over time. etc.
and can you tell us where we can get the battery monitor for th WP 8? I want one...
Battery App
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Yes there are battery monitor apps for Windows Phone 8. Battery Level for Windows Phone 8 seems to be the most popular. The nice part is that it will autoupdate the live tile with the battery level and you can add it to the lockscreen to show it there as well. It's not quite as in depth as Android with regards to telling you what is pulling the most power but as others have mentioned on WP8 it's a slightly different mechanic than Android as the background processes are a lot more regulated with regards to how they can do that (as are the developers when making their apps). It would be kind of interesting to see something like Android's built-in battery stats but I honestly haven't really haven't had any problems (not that I was really having problems on Android either).
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That sound very good but where can I get the apps Battery Level?
It's mostly a battle between Chrome, Firefox and Opera but, maybe you tried a more obscure browser and it work great for you? I loved the old AOSP browser because it was light on memory and ressources but it's not being maintained anymore and using it pose a security risk. Google Chrome has all the bells and whistle and it support pretty much everything but it's also memory hungry, it eat so much memory that other app in the background are dropped out of your memory to make place for Chrome. It leads us to Firefox, it support less thing but, memory usage is not too bad. Opera is also good.
I've tried quite a few and keep coming back to Firefox.
I don't really have a reason why as I suspect it's a tad slower than most and I see it pretty high on the battery usage on my tablet but it's always just been my "go-to" browser.
I had used Dolphin too for a long time and I can't remember why I stopped. I think it might've been that I didn't like the differences between the tablet and phone interfaces. I am apparently quite fussy.
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I've tried quite a few and keep coming back to Firefox.
I had used Dolphin too for a long time and I can't remember why I stopped. I think it might've been that I didn't like the differences between the tablet and phone interfaces. I am apparently quite fussy.
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I may give a try to CAF Chromium browser, it's a Chrome fork compiled with optimization for Qualcomm devices. I'll try it and see if it's better on memory usage. My main complaint with Chrome is that, it eat as much memory as it can, then other apps in the background are forced out of RAM. So, when you want to open other apps, they have to be completely reloaded instead of just restarting them from RAM. Also, I'm fussy too...
Firefox. My beloved (and needed) extensions work on Android. And it's synchronized with my desktop too.
Chromium
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Firefox i use linux on laptop so both phone and laptop are coordinated
Been using Dolphin for a couple of years. The main initial reason was the cookies/browsing data clearing is only one swipe and click away when browsing, super handy as I read a newspaper every day which only allows 10 free articles a month lol. Clear data, instantly ready for another 10 articles.
Been a fan of Opera since my first Android phone
Used NoChromo for a while (built in adblocking) but now back to using opera mini or lightning. Use lightning with java script turned off, which makes for a super fast browser. Generally breaks discussion/commenting and some page navigation. But works equally well with java script turned on and is very lightweight.
Find chrome is far too resource hungry and I really don't like the firefox tab interface.
Most of popular like chrome, Firefox, Dolphin are good performer.... Depends upon your needs and usage..... But I am big fan of uc browser and using it for a long time... Better in memory management... Has in built ad blocker.... Its to had limited addons support.... Also has Flash compatability.... Most under rated browser of the store but works like butter for me switching tabs also easiest.... Give it a shot....
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It's mostly a battle between Chrome, Firefox and Opera but, maybe you tried a more obscure browser and it work great for you? I loved the old AOSP browser because it was light on memory and ressources but it's not being maintained anymore and using it pose a security risk. Google Chrome has all the bells and whistle and it support pretty much everything but it's also memory hungry, it eat so much memory that other app in the background are dropped out of your memory to make place for Chrome. It leads us to Firefox, it support less thing but, memory usage is not too bad. Opera is also good.
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Using uc browser for browsing fb and downloading while chrome for browsing every other site.
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I have had good luck with Maxthon. I prefer a older version of it though.
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Previously using dolphin but now using ghostery as my main browser
I'm using Boat Browser as it looks great, is stable and fast and has support (PRO) for Firefox account, so I can easily check my PC bookmarks from Waterfox.
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Try Browser (Chromium) from XDA LABS, it is optimized to qualcomm devices, works perrrrrrrfect and fast
M46 build from 19.12.2015 is the newest one?
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Try Browser (Chromium) from XDA LABS, it is optimized to qualcomm devices, works perrrrrrrfect and fast
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Already tried CAF-Chromium, yes it's faster than official Google Chrome but there was still bugs and lags preventing me from using it as a daily driver. Sometimes, web pages get stuck and the app become totally unresponsive and I had to do a force close. For now, I'm back with Opera, not too bloated it's light on memory and it has all the features I need.
Using Firefox because I like the way it works. Interface is, to me, the best of the bunch and all in all it has the best performance. Used Opera a lot but had a lot of excellent | horrible experiences with it. That is, sometimes it was great but often things would not render properly or it would die. Chrome has generally been slower than FF for a couple years now and FF has been much more stable. Chrome blocks much more.
I just want a browser that doesn't make me care about which one I am using. FF is that. It just works.
Also, it gives me more control over crap like webrtc.
I mostly use Opera mini as it loads page faster, it saves data, it consume less memory, and second choice is puffin Web browser it's lighting fast I bet. It supports flash, and had many more advantages.
I always go back to Firefox. I need adblock. I've already accepted annoying ads in apps. So blocking adds in the browser is at least some satisfaction.
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Which browser uses less battery? Samsung's internet browser or Google Chrome?
I think is the stock browser (Samsung browser for Samsung phone and chrome browser for phone made with it).
I think a stock's apps are always better than other for performance and battery life.
The company made phone optimisation with stocks apps not for all applications on play store!
Both of these use a lot of battery. Background stuff.
At least Samsung's browser gives you utility e.g. ad blockers.
Try 'Brave' browser, see if you like it.
I have been using Kiwi for a bit less than a month. The fact that it's Chromium based and that it has night mode and allows me to use the bottom search bar makes it simply perfect for me. BUT, there are drawbacks, you don't have the Google News feature, the animations are kinda sluggish and other small things.
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I think is the stock browser (Samsung browser for Samsung phone and chrome browser for phone made with it).
I think a stock's apps are always better than other for performance and battery life.
The company made phone optimisation with stocks apps not for all applications on play store!
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False ! Stock browser especially when it's chrome can't be battery optimized In settings, use native apps it's battery killer especially chrome
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Both of these use a lot of battery. Background stuff.
At least Samsung's browser gives you utility e.g. ad blockers.
Try 'Brave' browser, see if you like it.
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Have you a proof of this?
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Have you a proof of this?
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Yes I use it, it's good