History, bought a Kindle fire 5th gen last year and accidentally had it update to 5.3.1.0 back before there was a root. I shelfed it for months, picked it back up today downloaded RootJunkys "AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool". got kingroot installed.
Kingroot needed internet so i enabled internet and didnt notice the Kindle updated to 5.3.2.
I figured out how to downgrade back to 5.3.1.0 successfully.
Now im starting over again with rootjunkys "AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool"
Im doing kingroot again and its asking for internet... within the 30 seconds I enabled it, I noticed a update is already half downloaded, So i killed the wifi to pause it....
How am I supposed to use Kingroot? if my kindle is about to update??
What are my options here?
How do I kill this update?
thanks.... sorry for my noobness. ive been searching all over the forums but figured I had to ask at this point.
Edit:Fixed.... the update will just download and not load.
It will only load if i click update or let the kindle fire sit idle for a while unused.
I also got kingroot to work on the 21st time......
vxeel said:
History, bought a Kindle fire 5th gen last year and accidentally had it update to 5.3.1.0 back before there was a root. I shelfed it for months, picked it back up today downloaded RootJunkys "AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool". got kingroot installed.
Kingroot needed internet so i enabled internet and didnt notice the Kindle updated to 5.3.2.
I figured out how to downgrade back to 5.3.1.0 successfully.
Now im starting over again with rootjunkys "AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool"
Im doing kingroot again and its asking for internet... within the 30 seconds I enabled it, I noticed a update is already half downloaded, So i killed the wifi to pause it....
How am I supposed to use Kingroot? if my kindle is about to update??
What are my options here?
How do I kill this update?
thanks.... sorry for my noobness. ive been searching all over the forums but figured I had to ask at this point.
Edit:Fixed.... the update will just download and not load.
It will only load if i click update or let the kindle fire sit idle for a while unused.
I also got kingroot to work on the 21st time......
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Be sure to erase that update file if completely downloaded! Partial (incomplete) OTA downloads are erased on reboot; completed downloads are installed. Also block OTA updates via SuperTool.
Davey126 said:
Be sure to erase that update file if completely downloaded! Partial (incomplete) OTA downloads are erased on reboot; completed downloads are installed. Also block OTA updates via SuperTool.
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Where those update files are usually stored?
mikhailitsky said:
Where those update files are usually stored?
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Root of sdcard folder or "internal storage" when viewed from tethered host. Typically a large (huge) file with .bin extension.
I connected with adb and cleared data with pm tool for ota package while kingroot was doing its job. It is imperative not to let kindle fire update as some of the updates are not reversible. The best version of software is the one that fire came with, especially if that is the one that allows to boot custom recovery.
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Root of sdcard folder or "internal storage" when viewed from tethered host. Typically a large (huge) file with .bin extension.
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Any chance you could give me just a bit more details about how to find and delete the pending update? Thanks
Edit: Nevermind. Apparently the update won't install while it reboots trying to gain root.
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dirtfoot said:
Any chance you could give me just a bit more details about how to find and delete the pending update? Thanks
Edit: Nevermind. Apparently the update won't install while it reboots trying to gain root.
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Partially downloaded OTA updates are deleted when the device reboots; only fully downloaded files are at risk of being processed.
Davey126 said:
Partially downloaded OTA updates are deleted when the device reboots; only fully downloaded files are at risk of being processed.
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Thanks. Last question hopefully, are updates incremental? I have another fire on 5.1.3 and I'd rather just let it update to a rootable version than try to downgrade.
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5.1.3 is rootable see post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70883993&postcount=306
Updates will take you to the latest fire OS so if you left your tablet exposed to updates you will go to 5.3.2.1 which is unrootable.
There are incremental updates that take you from for example 5.3.2 to 5.3.2.1. They are stored in the tablets cache as apposed to the SD card. They are typically much smaller than the full OS .
I've captured an update from 5.3.1.0 to 5.3.2 it was about 90mb .
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My kindle just rebooted and I noticed it go into an upgrade. Bummer thought I had disabled the software updates
Anyone know what's new? Lost root I see!
Bryan
Have you attempted to re-root yet, and what method were you using to prevent updates? I renamed the otacert.zip file. I hope that keeps me at 10.2.1.
Mine also was upgraded. Old method to root device doesn't work. Any idea how to root with new firmware?
It seems that with the latest OTA update root functionality has been lost. I see that there are copies of past ROM versions available for download. Perhaps someone has the technical know-how on how to downgrade to these versions?
U need to restore with system.img using factory cable ot any other way geting fast boot mode
You don't need to downgrade the 8.9" as that is still rootable with the new version. Just re-root.
But yea get a motorola factory usb cable from ebay and and then use onelia's recovery to flash back to the previous KF2 or KFHD7 version
Nope...
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You don't need to downgrade the 8.9" as that is still rootable with the new version. Just re-root.
But yea get a motorola factory usb cable from ebay and and then use onelia's recovery to flash back to the previous KF2 or KFHD7 version
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I'm going to have to agree with the initial poster on this thread and say that if your firmware is at 8.1.4, The Bin4ry root is NOT working. I've ran it several times even after a full factory erase / restore, and throughout the entire process all I keep seeing is "permission denied", etc., all indicating that it was unsuccessful. For example, in the terminal step where you type in the 2 commands.. BOTH said "file not found", telling me that the file was never allowed to enter the device in the first place.. in other words, blocked. YES, the process does indeed finish, but su access is certainly not there. I can side-load apks of course, etc... but any apps requiring root access do NOT work.
I have found a way to manually block OTA updates, so if someone can figure out a way to downgrade the firmware back a couple versions, I think we'll be in business.
Please don't take this post as any sort of insult to anyone's intelligence, but I'm just relaying my experiences with the Bin4ry root process. I hope we as a community can come up with a way around this so we can get some custom roms onto this beast soon. cheers.
The binary root still works as of 8.1.4. If you read the entire post for the root process, all the permission denied and file not founds are normal. The root takes advantage of the restore process. I rooted an hd 8.9 today running 8.1.4 with no problems. So unless you guys have the only two hd 8.9's that Amazon changed the software...
I can also confirm that it still works on 8.14.ive rooted about a dozen times now, don't ask you'll be bored. I've also downgraded to 8.13 without any trouble, or factory cable, and rooted afterward. That said, I did let it OTA after downgrading. Again, don't ask.
Peace
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Root and Google Play for Amazon 7" Kindle Fire HD Software Version 8.1.4
fuyoo said:
It seems that with the latest OTA update root functionality has been lost. I see that there are copies of past ROM versions available for download. Perhaps someone has the technical know-how on how to downgrade to these versions?
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fuyoo,
There is no need to downgrade, Software version roots just fine, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117
If you get a file not found error:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086210
I am trying to return my Kindle Fire HD7 to factory stock with OTA working. I have it running on 7.4.6 and I'm pretty sure I could copy the 7.4.8 update the the SD card root and click the "Update Your Kindle" button to get to 7.4.8 but I like to make sure that future OTA updates will work, so I purposely update only to 7.4.6 and then let OTA take it up to the current version. On this Kindle, something must be wrong because it will not "Sync" update to 7.4.8.
First, I ran KFHD_SRT_v1.3.5 and flashed the system to 7.3.0 (rooted)
Next, I ran Restore-Factory Recovery
Next, I ran Erase cache and user data
Next, I rebooted
at that point it was working on 7.3.0
Then, I copied the 7.4.6 update to the root of the SD card and hit the "Update Your Kindle" button
The Kindle is now indicating version 7.4.6 and running normally
Now after fully charging the battery, I tap on "Sync" (which starts the curved arrows spinning) and let the thing go to sleep. This usually results fairly quickly in an update to 7.4.8 but on this Kindle every time I check (several days now) it is still sitting on 7.4.6. I have also tried Factory Reset a few times but it did not help.
I would have thought that after running the factory 7.4.6 update there should not be anything different that would prevent the OTA update from working. Am I missing something? Has anyone else had this problem? I have spent quite a bit of time searching the forum and have not found a similar problem.
Just update it with the zip the way you didn't want to, its going to completely wipe the changes made to the system in the process thus unblocking ota's in the future.
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Last night I got a kindle fire with os 5.1.4, I downgraded to 5.1.2 nd rooted it. While I was asleep it upgraded to 5.3.1, I just sideloaded 5.1.2
I decided to look online about 5.3.1, and just saw that I probably bricked it. I am still in the boot menu options. I don't want to turn it off yet, would I be able to re-sideload 5.3.1 and have everything be ok? I am still in the page to sideload, and can still sideload. I just don't know if I broke it yet.
ok
So I was afraid that my battery power may drain while waiting for a reply (I understand that I was unlikely to get one in that short of a time), so I re-sideloaded 5.3.1.0 (after sideloading 5.1.2 before powering off then on) and wiped cache/factory reset. Everything loaded (except the apps I had before the reset), it's fine.
So, amazon has the source code available on their page for 5.3.1.0
Is it possible to alter this and re-sideload the altered 5.3.1? I just want to remove a lot of garbage.
NastyButtler322 said:
Is it possible to alter this and re-sideload the altered 5.3.1? I just want to remove a lot of garbage.
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No,
files are signed, any changes and recovery will give errors
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hi guys. I was running the Nexus fire Rom using flashfire. its was on 5.1.2. I tried to flash the new updated version from this year of nexus fire from a clean wipe and now I dont have play store or anything. i cant remember the intial root process...its been while. I'm a little fuzzy as to how everything work cuz of the locked bootloader.
I dont have play store. i tried to side load flashfire into my downloads from pc but it wont show. it say dowloads empty. i literally have clock, calculator, downloads, settings and SU. i dunno what to do at this point. why arent the apks showing in downloads? any help is apprecaited. sad to see there is no real root yet..
havikx said:
hi guys. I was running the Nexus fire Rom using flashfire. its was on 5.1.2. I tried to flash the new updated version from this year of nexus fire from a clean wipe and now I dont have play store or anything. i cant remember the intial root process...its been while. I'm a little fuzzy as to how everything work cuz of the locked bootloader.
I dont have play store. i tried to side load flashfire into my downloads from pc but it wont show. it say dowloads empty. i literally have clock, calculator, downloads, settings and SU. i dunno what to do at this point. why arent the apks showing in downloads? any help is apprecaited. sad to see there is no real root yet..
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There is "real" root on FireOS 5.1.2. Best option is to sideload (reinstall) that build of FireOS via stock recovery then use the SuperTool to root and prepare your device for installation of Nexus. Going through that process will refresh your memory. A few tips:
- be sure to get the 5.1.2 binary; no higher/lower
- don't register with Amazon on initial boot
- keep off WiFi to avoid forced OTA update to an unrootable FireOS build
- be sure to flash the version of Nexus ROM that includes GAaps; you likely used the ROM only variant on your last refresh attempt
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There is "real" root on FireOS 5.1.2. Best option is to sideload (reinstall) that build of FireOS via stock recovery then use the SuperTool to root and prepare your device for installation of Nexus. Going through that process will refresh your memory. A few tips:
- be sure to get the 5.1.2 binary; no higher/lower
- don't register with Amazon on initial boot
- keep off WiFi to avoid forced OTA update to an unrootable FireOS build
- be sure to flash the version of Nexus ROM that includes GAaps; you likely used the ROM only variant on your last refresh attempt
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now that you mention, thats probably exactly what i forgot to do. Also, i'm on 5.1.1. My bad. As far as i know, 5.1.1 system still has that locked bootloader preventing android upgrades. Though I havent kept up with development too much. Ill get started on returning to stock and rerooting. Hope this little tablet get a breakthru in the near future!
ok, so i sideloaded flashfire thru ADB and decided to switch over to lineage. thanks for your help. easier than returning to stock.
havikx said:
ok, so i sideloaded flashfire thru ADB and decided to switch over to lineage. thanks for your help. easier than returning to stock.
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Agreed. The technique you used doesn't work for everyone; hence my generic 'return-to-stock and redo everything' guidance. Glad you are back in business with minimum fuss.