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I am in the process of doing an upgade, I should be getting it in a couple weeks. However, when I was playing around with it at the store I had some issues with it.
1) LTE was a problem with the device, and from poking around these forums, I have noticed that other users are experiencing problems. With the demo device, the One was unable to get LTE / 4G, however the S4 that was sitting almost directly next to it was able to pick up 4G fine. Is this a big issue?
2) Does this phone support tri-band LTE? Since I know Sprint is moving to that (or already has moved to that) that would be ideal.
3) How is battery life in low signal areas for this phone? At home, even though we have an airave this only helps a very small area in the household. So in general, I am bound to be roaming or have 0 bars.
4) Design wise how is this phone? Everything I have heard it is sturdy, and when I was playing with it at the store it felt solid.
5) Any huge faults (other then the possible SIM/LTE Issue) that would be pointed out on this?
6) Do you have to do the HTC-Dev trick to unlock the bootloader? Coming from a S2 there wasn't really any need to do any of that trickery, just flash and be done.
Right now, I am trying to decide against the S4 or the One, and while the S4 has a removable battery and microsd, if the One has 32 GB of storage, that should be plenty for me as long as I can set up Folder Sync, or a tasker profile to sync images and files to my server.
I am not really a huge fan of the S4 from a Touchwiz perspective, and all the new "features" just seem sorta gimmicky to me, granted I have never really tried them but enabling them is just destined for drained battery usage. I have never really had a Google Experience Phone, I have the nexus 7, but that is a tiny bit differentm so I am not sure as to whether flashing the Google Edition Roms would be of any benefit for me.
At this stage, I am just trying to figure out the benefits of one phone over the other (apart from removable battery and microsd card).
Bump, would really appreciate some feedback.
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I am in the process of doing an upgade, I should be getting it in a couple weeks. However, when I was playing around with it at the store I had some issues with it.
1) LTE was a problem with the device, and from poking around these forums, I have noticed that other users are experiencing problems. With the demo device, the One was unable to get LTE / 4G, however the S4 that was sitting almost directly next to it was able to pick up 4G fine. Is this a big issue?
2) Does this phone support tri-band LTE? Since I know Sprint is moving to that (or already has moved to that) that would be ideal.
3) How is battery life in low signal areas for this phone? At home, even though we have an airave this only helps a very small area in the household. So in general, I am bound to be roaming or have 0 bars.
4) Design wise how is this phone? Everything I have heard it is sturdy, and when I was playing with it at the store it felt solid.
5) Any huge faults (other then the possible SIM/LTE Issue) that would be pointed out on this?
6) Do you have to do the HTC-Dev trick to unlock the bootloader? Coming from a S2 there wasn't really any need to do any of that trickery, just flash and be done.
Right now, I am trying to decide against the S4 or the One, and while the S4 has a removable battery and microsd, if the One has 32 GB of storage, that should be plenty for me as long as I can set up Folder Sync, or a tasker profile to sync images and files to my server.
I am not really a huge fan of the S4 from a Touchwiz perspective, and all the new "features" just seem sorta gimmicky to me, granted I have never really tried them but enabling them is just destined for drained battery usage. I have never really had a Google Experience Phone, I have the nexus 7, but that is a tiny bit differentm so I am not sure as to whether flashing the Google Edition Roms would be of any benefit for me.
At this stage, I am just trying to figure out the benefits of one phone over the other (apart from removable battery and microsd card).
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I can't answer 1 or 2 because I don't have LTE where I live but I've been hearing that some people get through like five to six hours on screen time on a single charge but some don't. Design wise, this phone is probably the best looking and feeling handset out right now. It can compare with the iPhone and probably is better. Feels really good. And yes you have to do the HTC Dev thing. I would suggest getting the One over the S4 but that's just me. I got it because I was tired of using TouchWiz and absolutely hated it (came from S2 as well), didn't care if it had a SD card slot or not because 32 GB is plenty like you said and because the phone is just incredible. Feels really good in the hand and Sense 5 is great. Watch review videos on both the One and the S4 to see what they each offer. In a lot, if not all, of the videos I've seen of the HTC One vs S4, the reviewer chooses the One. Its just a really good device. I don't have a lot of first hand experience with it though. Played with it a few times and loved it. My One should be here in a few days and I am really excited
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I'm not in a LTE launched area but I am in an area where LTE is spread all over and let me tell you, this phone struggles to hold LTE when you hit - 115dbm or greater. Where as other devices(my wife's s3 and my Note 2) Will hold onto 4G just fine.. And to keep a good LTE signal I have to practically fornicate with a cell site... If I could do it over again I wouldn't. Other things made me happy though such as the screen, stereo FF speakers, build materials etc...
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My One holds LTE just as good as my S3, guess it depends on how good LTE is in your city. And every review I've seen they always choose the One over the S4. You can't go wrong with this phone.
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The LTE in my area has been pretty fast, and constant, but in some cases it does drop. As stated before, I guess it just matters how good the LTE service is in your area. The phone quality is excellent, but if you weren't going to use a case, the black version of the phone chips off if you were to drop it, leaving little white marks on the otherwise good looking phone. As for battery, mine usually lasts about 8 hours with a good amount of usage (a lot of music, internet, Twitter, texting, Youtube), and usually about 14 hours if I just check everything once in a while.
Still hard to tell for me about lte - it's my first lte phone too. It works well but most people complain it doesn't pick it up as well as others. The recent update sprint pushed seems to have resolved that but I'd look for others to chime I to confirm.
Edit: also there are no triband phones yet. Htc one doesn't support the triband network.
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I can't answer 1 or 2 because I don't have LTE where I live but I've been hearing that some people get through like five to six hours on screen time on a single charge but some don't. Design wise, this phone is probably the best looking and feeling handset out right now. It can compare with the iPhone and probably is better. Feels really good. And yes you have to do the HTC Dev thing. I would suggest getting the One over the S4 but that's just me. I got it because I was tired of using TouchWiz and absolutely hated it (came from S2 as well), didn't care if it had a SD card slot or not because 32 GB is plenty like you said and because the phone is just incredible. Feels really good in the hand and Sense 5 is great. Watch review videos on both the One and the S4 to see what they each offer. In a lot, if not all, of the videos I've seen of the HTC One vs S4, the reviewer chooses the One. Its just a really good device. I don't have a lot of first hand experience with it though. Played with it a few times and loved it. My One should be here in a few days and I am really excited
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Yeah, I have been reading reviews and watching videos, and so far everyone I have seen is sorta on the fence, or they end up going either way. 32 GB is nice, but, if I accidentally wipe the storage space or something goes wrong with the phone, have that SD Card in there for me to save all my pictures too, is definitely a positive. Same with the removable battery. Because otherwise, you replace the entire thing. I have held the device (albeit with the anti-theft hardware on it that is the sprint store and such). I enjoy the feel, it feels solid, I would just have to wonder how hot it gets, compared to the S4. I know my S2 gets pretty hot at times. From the reviews I read about the camera, they also favor the S4 since the HTC One's algorithms for reducing noise seem to interfere with pictures in broad daylight as well. Which is a definite negative.
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I'm not in a LTE launched area but I am in an area where LTE is spread all over and let me tell you, this phone struggles to hold LTE when you hit - 115dbm or greater. Where as other devices(my wife's s3 and my Note 2) Will hold onto 4G just fine.. And to keep a good LTE signal I have to practically fornicate with a cell site... If I could do it over again I wouldn't. Other things made me happy though such as the screen, stereo FF speakers, build materials etc...
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Yeah, the dual forward facing speakers are a definite plus. It does indeed make the sound so much stronger/better. Like I mentioned above, the build felt solid in my hand.
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The LTE in my area has been pretty fast, and constant, but in some cases it does drop. As stated before, I guess it just matters how good the LTE service is in your area. The phone quality is excellent, but if you weren't going to use a case, the black version of the phone chips off if you were to drop it, leaving little white marks on the otherwise good looking phone. As for battery, mine usually lasts about 8 hours with a good amount of usage (a lot of music, internet, Twitter, texting, Youtube), and usually about 14 hours if I just check everything once in a while.
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I would be using a case, definitely. What is your average signal area? Full bars, medium signal strength, or low? I personally live in a low signal area at home, and at school I had 5 bars, though, I don't know if they have LTE there.
gk1984 said:
Still hard to tell for me about lte - it's my first lte phone too. It works well but most people complain it doesn't pick it up as well as others. The recent update sprint pushed seems to have resolved that but I'd look for others to chime I to confirm.
Edit: also there are no triband phones yet. Htc one doesn't support the triband network.
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Hm, thanks for confirming that. I was hoping they would have supported it considering they are going to be moving forward with tri-band lte.
On another note, has anyone used the Zoe feature? Is it all that nice or is it more or less just really stupid? When I was talking to the sales rep, he was like "Yeah, I use the zoe feature all the time with my kids" and to be honest, I think he was just trying to sell the HTC one up. Does anyone know if there are applications developed by a third party that perform a similar function?
I know this may be out of the question, but have you considered t-mobile?
Their phone is also unbranded, but it is international, GSM, gets more support from developers, uses T-Mobile's blazing fast HSDPA+ (and soon, LTE), and should cost about the same...
Zoe is nice. But not for those who use 4.1.2. It stores 20 pictures and one 3 second video. The 4.2 update fixes that, saving only 1 picture and 1 video. You can still extract your stuff though.
For me, the 32 Gb is enough. I load this thing up with huge games and I take a lot if HD video, but I always transfer it to my HDD. If you are using this on vacation, I recommend using OTG. That way you can transfer all your pictures to the flash drives.
Battery life is subpar in my opinion. Not what I would expect from a "comeback" phone. I am never able to get more than 10 hours or so of normal use. However, the custom ROMs in here apparently are way more efficient and there are people getting like 60 hours of use.
The phone gets hot. Like 101 degrees Fahrenheit hot. And you feel it. Because the entire back if the phone is like a giant heatsink. But that's better than the S4. I'm sure it gets just as hot, but cooks the hardware instead letting the heat out.
My house has terrible reception in general (T-Mobile!), but I've never had a phone drain THIS quickly due to searching for signal.
I've set it to 2G only (I only get EDGE at my house anyway, THANKS OBAMA) and it seems to be helping.
Is the Nexus 5 or Kit Kat in general aggressive with searching for 3G/4G signal in anyone else's experience?
Like I said, other phones haven't had this issue.
Cheers
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Ajfink said:
My house has terrible reception in general (T-Mobile!), but I've never had a phone drain THIS quickly due to searching for signal.
I've set it to 2G only (I only get EDGE at my house anyway, THANKS OBAMA) and it seems to be helping.
Is the Nexus 5 or Kit Kat in general aggressive with searching for 3G/4G signal in anyone else's experience?
Like I said, other phones haven't had this issue.
Cheers
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I have terrible signal too and standby time is horrible. I'll try using faux kernel and report back.
I have same setup as you except my network settings are set to LTE even though there is no lte in my area. Not saying i have great battery life, but it isnt 49% looking for signal.
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I have this SAME problem, and the signal on my phone is terrible compared to my last LTE phone.
same problem at work...... I dont know how 1 place can go from lte to 4g to edge all with in a small building with 1 floor. First day while being at school i got 3 hours screentime on lte, today at work i got like 1.5 hours.
27% over 12 hours with one bar seems just fine to me..
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Mine reacts different with st att. I get 1 bar of lte in my home when I force lte. If I do auto switch gsm/lte it opts to 3 to 4 bars of hspa, which of course I prefer at home on Wi-Fi.
I've used tmobile for most of my smart phone life and always used tasker to switch to edge when connected to Wi-Fi. Saved a lot of battery. So your experience has been what I normally get.
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I have T-mobile as well and my house is in a bad spot. I found that with my note 2 I could use the dialer debug codes to manually set the phone to what ever freq and service I wanted. I found this to greatly help my battery as the modems for T-mo are particularly bad at determining the correct type of service to use and needlessly killing battery.
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At least I'm not alone. It's just annoying to have to switch to 2G only when I go home. -.-
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Are you guys using wifi while at home? If not then you really should. It generally makes the data modem go into a lower power state if wifi is connected saving battery. Thats how it is on my VZW galaxy nexus.
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Are you guys using wifi while at home? If not then you really should. It generally makes the data modem go into a lower power state if wifi is connected saving battery. Thats how it is on my VZW galaxy nexus.
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I do use WiFi at my house.
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I have full data bars in my area. If I turn WiFi off and just use data the battery drains significantly faster.
I am new to T-Mobile, I was with Verizon and my house on Verizon barely gets LTE. My galaxy nexus never got LTE but with T-Mobile my Nexus 5 has 3-4 bars of LTE. So I've been using LTE lately and my battery life has been great. I get 5 + hours screen on time with LTE.
Of course Verizon says my area has great 4g service too but anybody who has came to my house either gets 1 bar of LTE or 3g on Verizon. Trying to acquire a signal will of course eat battery though but I will tell you what I am very happy with T-Mobile so far, a lot better then I expected.
I am happy with the battery life and signal strength where I live and travel to.
I noticed this issue today as well... hoping for a solution...
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I noticed this issue today as well... hoping for a solution...
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Like I said, manually switching to 2G-only when you're in the affected area removes the problem, but you'll need to switch it back to LTE when you go anywhere with a better connection time. Settings > More > Mobile Networks > Network Mode.
If you're worried about battery life. There's a few things you can do. I found that turning off my "Ok Google" hot word detection increased battery life immensely. Also try turning off Google Now sometimes. I realize that the highlight of this phone more or less was Google Now, but if you don't need it for a certain period of time, turn it off. Doesn't hurt to try.
Try out Faux kernel also. On his test 7 (I think he just put out test 8) I was on track to get 60 hours of standby time. I'll try and dig up the screenshot..hopefully I didn't loose it one of my many wipes..
ZenithHammerhead said:
Try out Faux kernel also. On his test 7 (I think he just put out test 8) I was on track to get 60 hours of standby time. I'll try and dig up the screenshot..hopefully I didn't loose it one of my many wipes..
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Do you mean Franco? Faux kernel is only on 002 beta 2, Franco's is on test build 8.
I had this problem and I sent my phone back and got a new one. The new phone doesn't do it at all just got a day and a half with over 4 hours screen time. I think some of the nexus 5's are a bit dodgy.
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Do you mean Franco? Faux kernel is only on 002 beta 2, Franco's is on test build 8.
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Yes. Sorry, I had flashed both kernels and decided on Franco for now because it seems he's had the most progress so far. He also received his own device today so he should be able to get even more things done!
Looking forward to both of their kernels!
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I have this SAME problem, and the signal on my phone is terrible compared to my last LTE phone.
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+1. It looks like my N5 gets 5-8 dBm worse signal than my N4.
I have to first tell you I had the SG S4, HTC M7, HTC M8, as my previous Android phones before I
switched to the iPhone 6 plus. As soon s I saw this Galaxy S6 I could't wait to get back to Android.
I really hate Apple and the way you have to use itunes to do anything on the phone.
Received my new SGS6 edge 128 gb sapphire black and it is fantastically built and the perfect size.
That's where all the joy ends. Lets all face the facts, the battery life on this phone stinks. Yes I am a
very experienced Android user and disabled ALL the bloat. Then you have to star disabling features
like VOLTE, wifi, push services etc.... Why the hell would you pay 1,000 for a phone that in order to
barely make a business day power wise you have to disable so many of the features? With that said
and a ton of stuff disabled the phone barely last 12 hours. That is not acceptable. The iPhone plus goes
2 full days (48 hours) with everything on before I have to charge. Before you start asking, yes I did multiple factory
resets, I did the clear cache etc. Like I said I am very experienced with Android phones.
I was so disappointed in the G6 with its sub par battery life. I still hate my iPhone and am looking
for the next Android release (Sony or LG) to see if they are any better. I like the Note 4 but I believe the
international version does not have LTE on ATT.
If anyone has any other Android suggestions please advise me so I can escape the Apple lock.
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Have you looked at the HTC M9? I have the M9 currently and it's a pretty good phone. We already have a lot of devs making custom roms and kernels.
I am interested in the s6 which is why I'm looking at this forum, but the M9 is a really nice phone. I'm never satisfied, I have an addiction, a very expensive addiction.
Have you tried charging several times and bleeding the battery out after a couple of days? I noticed it wasn't really impressive batt life..then I disabled the at&t apps, cleared cache from recovery, disabled WiFi scanning, use power saving mode and I can get through the entire day, gym, and charge it at night with around 30% left..I'd give it a week or 2
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sameer1807 said:
Have you tried charging several times and bleeding the battery out after a couple of days? I noticed it wasn't really impressive batt life..then I disabled the at&t apps, cleared cache from recovery, disabled WiFi scanning, use power saving mode and I can get through the entire day, gym, and charge it at night with around 30% left..I'd give it a week or 2
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Sameer,
Yes I did run down to 0 and then charged full, reset cache and there was only a marginal gain.
This is a business phone and I cannot be in the situation of worrying if my battery is going to
die while I am out with customers.
I will monitor this forum to see if any software update fixes the problem.
BTW I did get the Samsung push update and the Google services update.
So frustrating because I really wanted to make this phone work.
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HTC
lyall29 said:
Have you looked at the HTC M9? I have the M9 currently and it's a pretty good phone. We already have a lot of devs making custom roms and kernels.
I am interested in the s6 which is why I'm looking at this forum, but the M9 is a really nice phone. I'm never satisfied, I have an addiction, a very expensive addiction.
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Lyall,
I loved the M7 and M8 and battery life was outstanding. The only thing that was
bad was the camera. So I have 2 questions:
1 - How is battery life
2 - How is the camera (I read not very good things about it)
I had the Developer edition on both the M7 and M8.
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cc999 said:
Lyall,
I loved the M7 and M8 and battery life was outstanding. The only thing that was
bad was the camera. So I have 2 questions:
1 - How is battery life
2 - How is the camera (I read not very good things about it)
I had the Developer edition on both the M7 and M8.
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Battery life is acceptable. I listen to podcasts and do light browsing all day at work and my battery usually drops between 3 & 5% per hour. If I watch videos or play a game the battery drops a lot faster. I would say the battery life is about the same as the m8.
The camera has improved greatly with the new firmware updates from HTC, but it's still probably not as good as the s6. One thing for sure is, the camera on the m9 is definitely better than the m8.
S6
lyall29 said:
Have you looked at the HTC M9? I have the M9 currently and it's a pretty good phone. We already have a lot of devs making custom roms and kernels.
I am interested in the s6 which is why I'm looking at this forum, but the M9 is a really nice phone. I'm never satisfied, I have an addiction, a very expensive addiction.
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I am confident the S6 is better then the iPhone 6. I love tech so I'm always comparing the top two competitors of this industry
The battery is an easy fix, update google play services to the latest 64bit version and then kill it dead a few times and use the quick charger to charge it to 100%. I am having zero issues making it thru the day and then some.
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designgears said:
The battery is an easy fix, update google play services to the latest 64bit version and then kill it dead a few times and use the quick charger to charge it to 100%. I am having zero issues making it thru the day and then some.
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Designgears,
I did exactly what you are suggesting. The only thing that fixed was the cell standby usage.
Before that update the battery was unusable, so yes that helped.
If I watched any kind of streaming video, you tube, nexflix etc, the battery went down unbelievable.
I had a video conference for 20 minutes the battery dropped 25%. Any stress on the phone the battery
drops like crazy. I really believe it may be a lollypop issue but I cant justify over 1,000 dollars on a phone
that won't last the day. Especially if its not unlocked with software updates few and far between.
Should I try the International version? If anything the updates will be quicker. Do you think without
any bloat ( I did disable all the bloat) will the battery be better?
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cc999 said:
Designgears,
I did exactly what you are suggesting. The only thing that fixed was the cell standby usage.
Before that update the battery was unusable, so yes that helped.
If I watched any kind of streaming video, you tube, nexflix etc, the battery went down unbelievable.
I had a video conference for 20 minutes the battery dropped 25%. Any stress on the phone the battery
drops like crazy. I really believe it may be a lollypop issue but I cant justify over 1,000 dollars on a phone
that won't last the day. Especially if its not unlocked with software updates few and far between.
Should I try the International version? If anything the updates will be quicker. Do you think without
any bloat ( I did disable all the bloat) will the battery be better?
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I only lost 3% battery watching an ep of Futurama on Nextflix and Youtube. A 10min video call on skype only dropped me down 5%. I think something else is sucking your battery dry.
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designgears said:
I only lost 3% battery watching an ep of Futurama on Nextflix and Youtube. A 10min video call on skype only dropped me down 5%. I think something else is sucking your battery dry.
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Do you have International or ATT version of the phone?
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designgears said:
I only lost 3% battery watching an ep of Futurama on Nextflix and Youtube. A 10min video call on skype only dropped me down 5%. I think something else is sucking your battery dry.
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I am giving the G6 another shot, ordered the 128 gb Black Sapphire (non edge) from ATT.
Hopefully will have tomorrow.
I did not like the Edge anyway because of txt distortion on the edges. Will follow all
recommendations on battery life. Thanks to all
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cc999 said:
Do you have International or ATT version of the phone?
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I am using the ATT version
cc999 said:
I am giving the G6 another shot, ordered the 128 gb Black Sapphire (non edge) from ATT.
Hopefully will have tomorrow.
I did not like the Edge anyway because of txt distortion on the edges. Will follow all
recommendations on battery life. Thanks to all
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I would hit APKmirror and grab all of the updated google apps. That has helped the most.
Thank You
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I would hit APKmirror and grab all of the updated google apps. That has helped the most.
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Thank you very much.
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Please elaborate more on this.
or the ways to have better battery life
Ok, I opened the link you provide but there a few newer versions on apkmirror. Should i install all of them or just the one you linked?
Hello,
I'd like to buy the X Performance when it comes out and use it on my current T-Mobile network. Since I'll be buying the phone unlocked, I understand I will need to input certain "setup" info for the phone to work properly. I actually know how to enter in everything and also WHAT to enter too.......... the APN info, Voicemail, etc.
What I DON'T know how to do is enter in the following fields and where to enter them in too:
Short Message Service (SMS)
SMS Email: [email protected]
Email center: 500
Where do I go to enter those on a Sony phone?? Or, will my T-Mobile SIM card just automatically enter these in for me? Please explain.
Thank You!!
RockStar2005 said:
Hello,
I'd like to buy the X Performance when it comes out and use it on my current T-Mobile network. Since I'll be buying the phone unlocked, I understand I will need to input certain "setup" info for the phone to work properly. I actually know how to enter in everything and also WHAT to enter too.......... the APN info, Voicemail, etc.
What I DON'T know how to do is enter in the following fields and where to enter them in too:
Short Message Service (SMS)
SMS Email: [email protected]
Email center: 500
Where do I go to enter those on a Sony phone?? Or, will my T-Mobile SIM card just automatically enter these in for me? Please explain.
Thank You!!
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Seems like a very premature question. You might have to wait a few months for the phone to be released to get this answer. Can I have your Galaxy S7 when you get the XP?
PuffDaddy_d said:
Seems like a very premature question. You might have to wait a few months for the phone to be released to get this answer. Can I have your Galaxy S7 when you get the XP?
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lol What up Puff?
Well I actually got the answer I believe on the T-Mobile forum site. Someone there said they never had to that stuff and they have an unlocked phone too. I think I may have to do the APN part, but I have all that info now anyway. So it should be ok.
Yeah.......... it was just announced TODAY that the X Performance is being released GLOBALLY (including U.S. I believe) the FIRST week of July. F M L. lol
Xperia X range release dates in Europe
Xperia X – Late May 2016 (week commencing 23 May)
Xperia XA – Late June 2016 (week commencing 20 June)
Xperia X Performance – Early July 2016 (week commencing 4 July)
Haha have? No. But I WILL be selling it on eBay. lol What sucks is by then it will be worth a little less so that's less money I'll have to put towards the X Performance. Really p's me off that they're taking THIS long to release it when it was announced back in FEB. The S7 is great but there a few things that I don't like about it that are an issue for me. If you want to know more, let me know.
I don't get why they'd release it last too? It's the best of the 3 phones, so why release it LAST? Especially with the Z series now being history. Sony..........makers of great phones, employers of the world's biggest ****-tards for marketing and sales. No TV ads, no........but let's put our generic/lightweight ads on the internet only. Umm...... that's NOT how it works. The only ppl who will see those ads are the ones who are ACTIVELY seeking Sony phones. You need to get the name out there. Get some big celebrities like Clooney or Lawrence to do your ads, and make them COOL not idiotic like that new LG G5 one with Jason Statham. lol Until then, they could AT LEAST put THIS sweet ad on American TV. I think it trumps all their "usual" ads on YouTube by miles. Love the music on it too. Actually "sells" the Predictive Hybrid Autofocus rather well too without having to try so hard.
RockStar2005 said:
lol What up Puff?
Well I actually got the answer I believe on the T-Mobile forum site. Someone there said they never had to that stuff and they have an unlocked phone too. I think I may have to do the APN part, but I have all that info now anyway. So it should be ok.
Yeah.......... it was just announced TODAY that the X Performance is being released GLOBALLY (including U.S. I believe) the FIRST week of July. F M L. lol
Xperia X range release dates in Europe
Xperia X – Late May 2016 (week commencing 23 May)
Xperia XA – Late June 2016 (week commencing 20 June)
Xperia X Performance – Early July 2016 (week commencing 4 July)
Haha have? No. But I WILL be selling it on eBay. lol What sucks is by then it will be worth a little less so that's less money I'll have to put towards the X Performance. Really p's me off that they're taking THIS long to release it when it was announced back in FEB. The S7 is great but there a few things that I don't like about it that are an issue for me. If you want to know more, let me know.
I don't get why they'd release it last too? It's the best of the 3 phones, so why release it LAST? Especially with the Z series now being history. Sony..........makers of great phones, employers of the world's biggest ****-tards for marketing and sales. No TV ads, no........but let's put our generic/lightweight ads on the internet only. Umm...... that's NOT how it works. The only ppl who will see those ads are the ones who are ACTIVELY seeking Sony phones. You need to get the name out there. Get some big celebrities like Clooney or Lawrence to do your ads, and make them COOL not idiotic like that new LG G5 one with Jason Statham. lol Until then, they could AT LEAST put THIS sweet ad on American TV. I think it trumps all their "usual" ads on YouTube by miles. Love the music on it too. Actually "sells" the Predictive Hybrid Autofocus rather well too without having to try so hard.
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If you don't mind, shoot me a quick list if the things you don't like about the S7. It seems like the almost perfect device on paper, but I'd like to know what a former compact user thinks.
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PuffDaddy_d said:
If you don't mind, shoot me a quick list if the things you don't like about the S7. It seems like the almost perfect device on paper, but I'd like to know what a former compact user thinks.
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Puff,
1) Screen Brightness: Under heavy sunlight, the screen brightness on the S7 is f'ign awful. Squint (your eyes) City. lol My Z3's screen brightness S*IT on the S7's.
2) Fast But Not Fast lol: Touchwiz is not that great. Yeah the S7 is very fast for downloads, but I compared the speed of jumping around from app to app on the homescreen vs. doing the same thing on my parents' Xperia Z1s (released January 2014), and THEIR phone was loading things up faster. For real. lol That lag is all Touchwiz. Plus although the Settings Menu is better than before, I still find it more confusing to navigate through than Sony's or HTC's are.
3) Audio Issues (and I'm an Audiophile......Lite lol): First off, the speaker. It's F'ING GOD AWFUL!!! Seriously. There's only one speaker, and it's facing down. Drum sounds render on it like the sound of someone shooting a laser gun. lol Then there's the headphone issue. Using the 3.5mm port is fine, but I use an "in-between" portable amp/DAC device which hooks up to my smartphone and headphones via Micro USB. While listening to music this way, at least once every few minutes (sometimes more), I will hear a hiccup or skip. I pay GOOD money for my Hi-Res music, and the S7 is taking the enjoyment away from me everyday I'm STUCK with it until the XP comes out (a nice big F U to Sony Mobile's execs for deciding to release the FLAGSHIP X phone LAST)! Oh, and using that same setup to watch YouTube videos? Forget it. Hiccup? Try "mad stutter" to the point where it's not even worth it. This makes the screen brightness issue not seem so bad. lol
4) Home Button: This might be more a preference thing, but I've come to realize I DO NOT LIKE physical home buttons. I'd found an app that makes the physical home button act like a virtual one, but it only seems to work 60-70% of the time. So since it's not 100%, this for me becomes yet another issue I have with this phone.
That's pretty much everything I guess. Samsung Pay is kinda cool, the camera is fantastic, wireless charging is kinda kewl too, looks pretty premium too (cuz they finally did what Sony's been doing FOR YEARS and stopped making plastic-bodies phones lol), but I know the XP's camera will be great, and wireless charging is no big deal to me at all (the free one I got from Samsung is not even QC 2.0). They say Samsung may make Samsung Pay available to other phones, so if that happens, I'll probably get it again on Sony, but if not, I won't lose any sleep either. But at the stores, ppl do seem interested in watching me use it. lol It BY FAR is the best mobile pay method there is. It works every time., and you can set it up to be activated via fingerprint which saves you a couple seconds of not having to enter in your passcode.
Hope that helps!
I'm surprised to hear you say the screen doesn't get bright enough. All of the phone comparisons I've seen on YouTube indicate that it's the brightest of the major manufacturers.
I need a loud speaker though because I like showing YouTube videos to my wife and listening to music in the shower. It needs to overcome background noise fairly well.
How does it fit in your hand though? Comfortable one hand operation is key for me.
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PuffDaddy_d said:
I'm surprised to hear you say the screen doesn't get bright enough. All of the phone comparisons I've seen on YouTube indicate that it's the brightest of the major manufacturers.
I need a loud speaker though because I like showing YouTube videos to my wife and listening to music in the shower. It needs to overcome background noise fairly well.
How does it fit in your hand though? Comfortable one hand operation is key for me.
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Puff,
It might come as a surprise, but it's the truth. Under heavy sunlight, I can barely see my screen. At 100% brightness, my S7 is maybe only 75-80% as bright as my Z3 was. And judging by this video comparison of the Z5 vs. the X (X & XP have the same screen I believe), the XP should be PLENTY bright. (Watch it all if you like, but in particular, make sure you check out 3:35 - 4:25).
The S7's speaker IS loud....... so you don't have to worry about that. It just doesn't sound very good is all. For showing your wife YouTube videos, the XP would be the clear winner there. STEREO front-facing speakers that are also very clear................vs. a downward facing speaker that isn't. But again, that's just my opinion. I felt the Z3's speakers were plenty loud (like the M8's), so I don't see it being a problem. Plus the XP like the S7 will be waterproof.
The S7 fits pretty well in my hand. I can't complain there. The S7 Edge that I had briefly before it was too big plus there's no way to deactivate the edge screens, so I'd constantly be accidentally starting up apps or hitting virtual buttons on screen while watching videos.
Let me know if you have any more questions, and what you think of that video too.
I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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km8j said:
I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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I don't know if it's that they don't care, it's just that those features (regardless of which brand phone it is) are carrier-specific, not phone-specific. I just confirmed with a T-Mobile supervisor that information, so unfortunately it sounds like if I get the XP I won't get HD Voice or VoLTE. Sux but oh well. I love the phone too much to give that stuff up. If I get it and am unhappy with it, then I'll just get the T-Mobile HTC 10 instead. A very close 2nd IMO. But the XP has a better camera, so since I don't make many calls, the XP still sounds better.
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I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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km8j,
Some GOOD news..........despite my discovery that the X series will not have VoLTE, I found out it's really not an issue at all. Having VoLTE used to mean you could browse and connect to the internet WHILE ON a call. Before you couldn't do both. But I just tested out an Xperia Z1s which does NOT have VoLTE on it, and tried to browse the net and use apps like GMail app while on a call...... and apparently now you CAN do both at the same time even w/o having VoLTE!! So really, it's not a big deal at all!
VoLTE helps to connect your calls faster too, but if I have to wait a few more seconds, so be it.
RockStar2005 said:
km8j,
Some GOOD news..........despite my discovery that the X series will not have VoLTE, I found out it's really not an issue at all. Having VoLTE used to mean you could browse and connect to the internet WHILE ON a call. Before you couldn't do both. But I just tested out an Xperia Z1s which does NOT have VoLTE on it, and tried to browse the net and use apps like GMail app while on a call...... and apparently now you CAN do both at the same time even w/o having VoLTE!! So really, it's not a big deal at all!
VoLTE helps to connect your calls faster too, but if I have to wait a few more seconds, so be it.
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This is not factually accurate. For years, GSM has been able to handle simultaneous voice and data. The issue is, without VoLTE, when you make a call and are on LTE, the data signal falls back to HSPA, which is far slower and less reliable. So yes you can do data at the same time but not as fast. Also, b12 not being supported means not as good signal in areas where that is deployed. VoLTE offers shorter call connect times, yes but also higher quality audio, more reliability and more.
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This is not factually accurate. For years, GSM has been able to handle simultaneous voice and data. The issue is, without VoLTE, when you make a call and are on LTE, the data signal falls back to HSPA, which is far slower and less reliable. So yes you can do data at the same time but not as fast. Also, b12 not being supported means not as good signal in areas where that is deployed. VoLTE offers shorter call connect times, yes but also higher quality audio, more reliability and more.
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Oh geez, you're RIGHT km8j!! lol I just realized while reading your post that yeah VoLTE DOES let you stay in 4G LTE while on a call. Thanks. lol Yeah not as fast.
b12??
Ok yeah....... better quality calls too. Oh well. lol I found out now that Verizon and Sprint just got that recently, so that's prob why I remembered not being able to do both at the same time. I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in Feb of 2014. When I had Verizon, they did not yet have that option, only AT&T and T-Mobile did. So that affected my statements made.
RockStar2005 said:
Oh geez, you're RIGHT km8j!! lol I just realized while reading your post that yeah VoLTE DOES let you stay in 4G LTE while on a call. Thanks. lol Yeah not as fast.
b12??
Ok yeah....... better quality calls too. Oh well. lol I found out now that Verizon and Sprint just got that recently, so that's prob why I remembered not being able to do both at the same time. I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in Feb of 2014. When I had Verizon, they did not yet have that option, only AT&T and T-Mobile did. So that affected my statements made.
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Sony once again has no band 12? So service with t mobile isn't 100% supported and may see signal drop in areas where t mobile branded phones will still have signal.
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Sony once again has no band 12? So service with t mobile isn't 100% supported and may see signal drop in areas where t mobile branded phones will still have signal.
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What? That's not true. Sony most certainly has Band 12/700 MHz service for the XP, and T-Mobile does offer it it as well.
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What? That's not true. Sony most certainly has Band 12/700 MHz service for the XP, and T-Mobile does offer it it as well.
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T mobile is band 12 1700 or 2100 I thought. They barely use the 700
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T mobile is band 12 1700 or 2100 I thought. They barely use the 700
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No brotha........ they might have 1700 too, but I know FOR SURE they have Band 12/700 MHz cuz I've been following that s*it for a while now. Even on that T-Mo map link I just sent you it says "Officially announced markets where 700 MHz band 12 network has been deployed have a circled 12 placed on them."
So don't worry about that. lol As long as you live in an area on the map on that page that has it now, you'll have it with the XP too, if you were to get it I mean.
No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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As above the ideal way to use the xperia p is pretty much on Att. And even then you're lacking features. Is there anything in the near future standardizing LTE bands?
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km8j said:
No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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I don't understand. If the network has it, and the phone supports, why wouldn't it work?? This isn't VoLTE, this is something the phone actually has. So according to you, the 2G and 3G networks wouldn't work then b/c Sony didn't have them certified through T-Mobile either...which means you wouldn't even be able to make calls on it.
Not only does this site say that both the phone and T-Mobile match up with regards to Band 12, even GSM Arena's specs sheet for the XP states it has Band 12. So I have a hard time understanding how it won't work.
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As above the ideal way to use the xperia p is pretty much on Att. And even then you're lacking features. Is there anything in the near future standardizing LTE bands?
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MGS,
Well AT&T is fine too as they (like T-Mobile) are also a GSM-based network carrier. Both are equally compatible with the XP per that site I linked you earlier.
I would hope that in the NEAR future all phone makers make HD Voice & VoLTE standard. My guess as to why that hasn't happened yet is that it would cost more money and the phone makers know that not all markets actually have these options yet. But they should just include them anyway as that is changing everyday.
I'm looking into getting an Idol 4 as an upgrade. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Light which is just a terrible phone all around lol. This phone spec wise seems like a great deal for the price (currently 149.99). But I don't like buying things without reviews and this phone has almost none. So since some of you have it I was hoping I could get some feedback on how it is. I generally use mine for light gaming, lots of video streaming, social networking and lots of texting, and some web browsing. I wouldn't mind getting into taking more pictures as well since the kids are starting to get bigger. Anything you have to say would be greatly appreciated. Just remember I'm interested in the Idol 4 not the S variant. Thank you in advance!
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I'm looking into getting an Idol 4 as an upgrade. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Light which is just a terrible phone all around lol. This phone spec wise seems like a great deal for the price (currently 149.99). But I don't like buying things without reviews and this phone has almost none. So since some of you have it I was hoping I could get some feedback on how it is. I generally use mine for light gaming, lots of video streaming, social networking and lots of texting, and some web browsing. I wouldn't mind getting into taking more pictures as well since the kids are starting to get bigger. Anything you have to say would be greatly appreciated. Just remember I'm interested in the Idol 4 not the S variant. Thank you in advance!
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Honestly this phone is really awesome all around. Gaming is very descent but one thing that I absolutely love about this phone is the sound quality. Literally it is in Surround sound. Only gripe is some of the picture quality and heat using the VR. Other then that it is super fast with great battery life. I went from a Samsung galaxy edge 7 to Alcatel Idol 4 and don't regret it one bit. Just wishing the root was out to make this phone better.
I came from a G3. The G3 was accused of quickly becoming warm, due to the high resolution display but this phone, to me, becomes warm under less stress. Generally a reboot helps ease the struggles and it cools down for the day. My brightness is almost always at less than 50% but my battery life is about an hour of SOT less, I consistently notice that I now have 2gb of RAM and not 3. I can clear all my apps, open chrome with 4 tabs, exit to the home screen and reopen chrome to see it's reloading the entire app. When using Google maps or Waze, it takes about a full second for my touch to register in the app but on screen keys are unaffected. My apps are minimal, not even Facebook but I use Facebook messenger lite, no widgets or abnormal background apps, so I don't feel I'm pushing the device too far.
I list all of these but I honestly feel they're software issues. I've replaced the stock launcher and noticed a huge difference. The biggest selling points are the amazing speakers, solid build quality but invest in tempered glass protector, extremely capable camera, VR headset and near stock. You can disable quite a bit of added and unneeded software and that helps. Once root is achieved I think some simple tweaks will unleash its true abilities but I think I would go with the honor 5x or wait for the 6x. 5x already has a community behind it and I miss rooting.
Are your sure you have the 3gb RAM version and not the 2? I ordered mine from the UK to get the 3gb version. I have no idea where your located, on mobile.
OP, tours sounds like a perfect device for your use. Same reason i bought one for my wife.
Like I said I have the galaxy light. Dual core processor, 8 gigs of onboard storage before the ROM, and only one gig of ram. Ha when I use maps it takes 5 minutes just for the app to open so a second to register won't be a problem. I always use Google now launcher which seems to improve speed most of the time.
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Honestly this phone is really awesome all around. Gaming is very descent but one thing that I absolutely love about this phone is the sound quality. Literally it is in Surround sound. Only gripe is some of the picture quality and heat using the VR. Other then that it is super fast with great battery life. I went from a Samsung galaxy edge 7 to Alcatel Idol 4 and don't regret it one bit. Just wishing the root was out to make this phone better.
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Also it sounds like you have the idol 4S not just the idol 4?
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Thanks for the reply you guys. I've decided I'm going to get the idol 4 because of cost, MM, and now root
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Thanks for the reply you guys. I've decided I'm going to get the idol 4 because of cost, MM, and now root
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beware, the cricket variant can't be root (you can't flash twrp) at this time.
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beware, the cricket variant can't be root (you can't flash twrp) at this time.
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I did see that. There is hope though since its still a newish phone. Cricket keeps dropping the price on it so that may lure people in with the specs it has.
There is a lot of dis-information regarding the variants of this phone. A lot of people are saying its wonderful but a lot of posts from people using different versions of it.
That and I noticed that they plan to muddy it even more with a 'mini' version and a 'pro' version.
So it gets even more confusing. The cricket version may or may not have 2gb, but its supposed to have 3gb. The cricket version also has an older Snapdragon 617 which according to the mfg wasn't even used in this phone.
You know what I am thinking? this is a re-balled idol 3.
Correct me if my suspicion is wrong.
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There is a lot of dis-information regarding the variants of this phone. A lot of people are saying its wonderful but a lot of posts from people using different versions of it.
That and I noticed that they plan to muddy it even more with a 'mini' version and a 'pro' version.
So it gets even more confusing. The cricket version may or may not have 2gb, but its supposed to have 3gb. The cricket version also has an older Snapdragon 617 which according to the mfg wasn't even used in this phone.
You know what I am thinking? this is a re-balled idol 3.
Correct me if my suspicion is wrong.
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I'm not sure on the specs of the idol 3 so I cannot comment on that. I'm getting mine tomorrow from cricket so I will be able to give exact specs of the phone.
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Selling one mint shape, comes with vr(never used it) also phone is unlocked
120$
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Selling one mint shape, comes with vr(never used it) also phone is unlocked
120$
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Thanks for the offer but I already bought one
I have the Cricket variant of the Alcatel Idol 4. It is the 6055U, which is the 2GB version. I really like the phone with the exception of the vibrate motor. I find it to be very weak. I can't even feel the vibration when the phone is in my front pocket and a call is coming in.