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Scrolling behaviour - issue or not?

Guys,
I need your opinion on something. I have this annoying thing that given my slight OCD is going to drive me crazy. It's this: scrolling in any app (main culprits are Facebook and Youtube) is simply not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. It has this stuttering effect which is not super obvious at first, but when the phones are next to each other the difference is highly noticeable.
What is your experience with scrolling in apps? Is it smooth as butter or do you also notice some stutter? Could I have a dud device? Anyway to find out?

Scrolling seems fine to me, but I'm not comparing it with something else side by side, and have no ocd...

Willyman said:
Guys,
I need your opinion on something. I have this annoying thing that given my slight OCD is going to drive me crazy. It's this: scrolling in any app (main culprits are Facebook and Youtube) is simply not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. It has this stuttering effect which is not super obvious at first, but when the phones are next to each other the difference is highly noticeable.
What is your experience with scrolling in apps? Is it smooth as butter or do you also notice some stutter? Could I have a dud device? Anyway to find out?
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That is my experience as well. A osprey based roms have slightly better in app scrolling. That Samsung browser is so bad that I had to stop using it.

Willyman said:
Guys,
I need your opinion on something. I have this annoying thing that given my slight OCD is going to drive me crazy. It's this: scrolling in any app (main culprits are Facebook and Youtube) is simply not as smooth as on my OnePlus One. It has this stuttering effect which is not super obvious at first, but when the phones are next to each other the difference is highly noticeable.
What is your experience with scrolling in apps? Is it smooth as butter or do you also notice some stutter? Could I have a dud device? Anyway to find out?
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I have ocd too and im very sensitive to lag and choppy scrolling. Completely agree. I have the oneplus one as well. Note 5 is faster everywhere but scrolling is not that smooth. YouTube is really choppy compared to other phones. My oneplus one's screen is much less responsive though. input lag everywhere so I would rather have the note 5's choppy scrolling instead.
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It's just bizarre really. This thing absolutely flies, it has power to spare, multitasking, Youtube, gaming ... but certain things are just not smooth.
Things I notice that bother me:
Scrolling in apps... Main culprits Youtube and Facebook
Pulling down notification shade... A subtle stutter
Scrolling through a long list op open apps... A small stutter in the beginning
It's small things, but it seems to have issues with refreshing graphics somehow. I don't know, I'm not knowledgeable enough. Unfortunately there is no root available yet for my model (N9200) so all I can do is wait I guess,

Willyman said:
It's just bizarre really. This thing absolutely flies, it has power to spare, multitasking, Youtube, gaming ... but certain things are just not smooth.
Things I notice that bother me:
Scrolling in apps... Main culprits Youtube and Facebook
Pulling down notification shade... A subtle stutter
Scrolling through a long list op open apps... A small stutter in the beginning
It's small things, but it seems to have issues with refreshing graphics somehow. I don't know, I'm not knowledgeable enough. Unfortunately there is no root available yet for my model (N9200) so all I can do is wait I guess,
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I have noticed all those except for the notification shade. I disabled a bunch of apps of course, including that Quick connect and the other thing that was up there all the time, so maybe that helped. I am seeing a ton of improvements in scrolling with all the apps I have disabled but not to where I would call it super smooth. For some reason scrolling in the browser is pretty smooth which is usually the place i see problems on other phones. It must have something to do with how touchwiz handles scrolling cache. If someone comes up with a mod to adjust it, that may almost be a big enough reason for me to root my phone.

rlsroufe said:
I have noticed all those except for the notification shade. I disabled a bunch of apps of course, including that Quick connect and the other thing that was up there all the time, so maybe that helped. I am seeing a ton of improvements in scrolling with all the apps I have disabled but not to where I would call it super smooth. For some reason scrolling in the browser is pretty smooth which is usually the place i see problems on other phones. It must have something to do with how touchwiz handles scrolling cache. If someone comes up with a mod to adjust it, that may almost be a big enough reason for me to root my phone.
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Thanks. Yeah, I've done the same (disabling apps etc...). It definitely not bad, but it's not as smooth as other Android phones I've used. Fast yes, perfectly smooth, no.
Updates seem to come quickly. I've had 2 already in 2 weeks. let's see. And with Android M around the corner, I'm sure in a few weeks/months things will be perfect.

Samsung have anyways had this issue with their phones. Never been butter smooth due to bloat ware mainly. No matter the specs phone lags and stutters, I think Samsung should ditch TW.
Note 5 is a fantastic looking phone but ui is concerning.

Utterly bizarre... Things have dramatically improved and I literally did nothing...

Willyman said:
Utterly bizarre... Things have dramatically improved and I literally did nothing...
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Still choppy over here. Did you get an update? Are you using international version?
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I'm so close to returning this, and getting the Nexus 6. I've tried every browser available, and I'm not sure if it's the 64-bit architecture or what, it's probably TouchWiz, I'm not sure. I compared it to my galaxy s5 and it's worse. Why is scrolling terrible? I hope somebody comes up with the fix, id bloated about everything I can, and factory reset.

black_shirt said:
I'm so close to returning this, and getting the Nexus 6. I've tried every browser available, and I'm not sure if it's the 64-bit architecture or what, it's probably TouchWiz, I'm not sure. I compared it to my galaxy s5 and it's worse. Why is scrolling terrible? I hope somebody comes up with the fix, id bloated about everything I can, and factory reset.
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Download Lightning Browser+ from the playstore. The paid version blocks all adds and the scrolling is very smooth. It's what I'm using on my Note 5.

rlsroufe said:
Still choppy over here. Did you get an update? Are you using international version?
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No update. Like I said, its all a bit bizarre. All I can say is that the two last charging cycles things are a lot better.

black_shirt said:
I'm so close to returning this, and getting the Nexus 6. I've tried every browser available, and I'm not sure if it's the 64-bit architecture or what, it's probably TouchWiz, I'm not sure. I compared it to my galaxy s5 and it's worse. Why is scrolling terrible? I hope somebody comes up with the fix, id bloated about everything I can, and factory reset.
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One thing I found works is to install Adguard (not in store, just google it). It will block ads and make scrolling in Chrome a lot better. The only annoying part I would say is a persistent VPN notification. Adguard uses a local VPN which results in a permanent notification. If you can live with that I found it to be pretty great.

Willyman said:
One thing I found works is to install Adguard (not in store, just google it). It will block ads and make scrolling in Chrome a lot better. The only annoying part I would say is a persistent VPN notification. Adguard uses a local VPN which results in a permanent notification. If you can live with that I found it to be pretty great.
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I thought it was just in my head but I gave adguard a try after some time of not using it and I thought it made the whole system faster. Still not 100% sure but things could be a tad smoother and more responsive in general. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth having it constantly running in the background and using chrome or just using lightning browser with its ad blocker built in.
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My AT&T version has no issue in scrolling - either in the UI or individual apps I use. I'll get some lag when scrolling fast in the Gallery or FlickFolio but that's because I'm scrolling faster than the thumbnails can load. That's an OS thing, not a h/w or UI thing. Overall the diet Samsung put TW and their own apps on has really paid off.

I'm starting to believe it has something to do with the last "performance increasing update " . I can see from other threads on here that not everyone is on it yet. I received it mid last week. I had another Note 5 before which I returned as it had an issue with the Screen. That one never got upgraded to that stage and was very smooth. This one I have now felt smooth as well, but think that it got worse with the upgrade. I'm now on the update captured in the screenshot. It ends in AHO4. The one before was AHO2.
Once I've figured out how to flash that version on there using Odin3, I will give that a shot and turn off automatic updates. To be continued...

Willyman said:
I'm starting to believe it has something to do with the last "performance increasing update " . I can see from other threads on here that not everyone is on it yet. I received it mid last week. I had another Note 5 before which I returned as it had an issue with the Screen. That one never got upgraded to that stage and was very smooth. This one I have now felt smooth as well, but think that it got worse with the upgrade. I'm now on the update captured in the screenshot. It ends in AHO4. The one before was AHO2.
Once I've figured out how to flash that version on there using Odin3, I will give that a shot and turn off automatic updates. To be continued...
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What was the issue with your screen?

WizeGuyDezignz said:
What was the issue with your screen?
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Discolourization.

Settings > Developer Options.
Window animation scale, Transition animation scale, Animator duration scale. Change all to "off". Has always seemed to speed up any Android device I've ever used.

I need your opinion about this phone

Hello guys,
I've considered buying MiA2 this month for my daily driver. Previously I used Pocophone f1 and sold it immediately after 1 month usage because I'm so tired of that stupid touch issues. And I also already used Redmi Note 5 (whyred) before, I bought it in first week release. And I'm not really satisfied with the performance (it's underclocked version of 660) that's why I upgraded to poco.
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
fyi, I also root my phone. So root or twrp to fix some problems is okay for me as long there is a fix for the problem.
I want to know your opinion, thanks

In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.

KreeeKz said:
In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.
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That's why I made this thread, I saw videos on youtube showing touch problem also exist on this phone.
By the way, thanks for your reply :good:

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
I want to know your opinion, thanks
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I use gfx tool and get a stable 60 fps on balanced graphics. The performance of this phone is pretty solid and can play any games at almost max settings. There's no problem in touch responsiveness and the stock OS feels great. I'd have gotten the poco f1 if I simply needed pure gaming performance. The difference between normal day to day usage experience of Mi A2 and poco f1 is negligible. Typing, scrolling and basic touch functions are great. I'd recommend this phone to you if you can overlook a few bugs like the proximity sensor.
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KreeeKz said:
In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.
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I never had any touch and responsiveness issues whatsoever. Might be a software bug. Try a factory reset and see if it fixed it.

[email protected] said:
I use gfx tool and get a stable 60 fps on balanced graphics. The performance of this phone is pretty solid and can play any games at almost max settings. There's no problem in touch responsiveness and the stock OS feels great. I'd have gotten the poco f1 if I simply needed pure gaming performance. The difference between normal day to day usage experience of Mi A2 and poco f1 is negligible. Typing, scrolling and basic touch functions are great. I'd recommend this phone to you if you can overlook a few bugs like the proximity sensor.
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Oh nice to know that, so you're using stock pie?
And about that proximity bug, is there any fix yet?

ferdieses said:
Oh nice to know that, so you're using stock pie?
And about that proximity bug, is there any fix yet?
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I am using stock pie and the proximity bug is kind of a hit or miss situation. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't it's really annoying. The placement of the sensor is a little odd and I don't think it is simply a software issue. Although in pie, it's much more better than Oreo.

[email protected] said:
I never had any touch and responsiveness issues whatsoever. Might be a software bug. Try a factory reset and see if it fixed it.
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From what I see on forum, most people fixed it by doing a factory reset just like you said. Well, I hope it's true

[email protected] said:
I am using stock pie and the proximity bug is kind of a hit or miss situation. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't it's really annoying. The placement of the sensor is a little odd and I don't think it is simply a software issue. Although in pie, it's much more better than Oreo.
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Ahh I see, then it's not the software problem anymore. It's just the placement

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
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I personally never had any major issues with this phone, i'm really enjoying a great cheap phone. The closest competitor in Brazil, hardware wise, is roughly double the price, which is the Moto Z3 Play running the SD636. I Had the CPU Maxed out bug but Xiaomi solved it on the 2nd October Update. Since then the device is running great, but heavy gaming isn't good. Regular games like Clash of Clans, Temple Run 2, Clash Royale, etc will run absolutely fine, but heavier titles like PUBG will struggle. It's definitely playable, but not the smoothest experience. For that you should look into the OnePlus 6/6T or anything else running an SD835 or SD845.
Even though it's a 3000mAh battery, It performs admirably, and people are saying it get's even better on Pie, which I didn't receive yet.

did you try the lineage build on the poco? same touch issues?

laviniu_c said:
did you try the lineage build on the poco? same touch issues?
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Same, whatever custom rom based on oreo and pie including Lineage. Nothing's changed, and it's only get worse on MIUI beta where they said they fix it in that firmware update. Some said on Lineage 16 it's better but not fixed, the problem still there.
And I sold it immediately, xiaomi and poco team seems like they don't even care about that problem.
Well I just hope that this MiA2/6x got the fix for the issue. I hate notches, this is one of the few 660 without notch.
Anyone using Mi6x? Is it good as the A2 besides the Android One and MIUI?

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
I've considered buying MiA2 this month for my daily driver. Previously I used Pocophone f1 and sold it immediately after 1 month usage because I'm so tired of that stupid touch issues. And I also already used Redmi Note 5 (whyred) before, I bought it in first week release. And I'm not really satisfied with the performance (it's underclocked version of 660) that's why I upgraded to poco.
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
fyi, I also root my phone. So root or twrp to fix some problems is okay for me as long there is a fix for the problem.
I want to know your opinion, thanks
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I never had any issues with PUBG. It automatically detected and set to medium texture and I even played in HD and it worked flawlessly. I never had a single lag or freeze. The performance is solid. Go for it.

My opinion is that the phone is overall great. Not the best value for the money and I'm certainly not happy with the state of custom development or lack thereof. But a SD660 should be good for gaming (which I don't care about), the phone is snappy in day to day usage and the battery is decent. Cameras are also pretty good.
The thing is that it's just not what I wanted or thought it was going to be like and if I could choose again, I'd probably choose the Note 5 Plus (SD636) or the A2 Lite at the time that I've bought it, and definitely the F1 had I waited 2-3 months more.
Never the less, I'll keep on using it because there is simply nothing wrong with the phone, it's just not the best value.

@ferdieses
I've had the Mi A2 since launch (the 6GB/128GB variant) and, because I never had high expectations (e.g., flagship performance/features), I'm generally happy with it.
The first few months were hit and miss with stability issues (CPU frequency/eMMC slowness/battery life) but the Mi A2 is at a point where it works well enough to recommend. Everything about it is far above average but not quite excellent (e.g., 7.5/10).
The only caveat is cellular connectivity. In Canada, it works okay. In the US, it's hit or miss but in Asia, its intended territory, it excels.

mrumais said:
I never had any issues with PUBG. It automatically detected and set to medium texture and I even played in HD and it worked flawlessly. I never had a single lag or freeze. The performance is solid. Go for it.
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That's what I thought, SD660 is good for pubg. Even not all SD835 devices optimized for that game.
ILA said:
My opinion is that the phone is overall great. Not the best value for the money and I'm certainly not happy with the state of custom development or lack thereof. But a SD660 should be good for gaming (which I don't care about), the phone is snappy in day to day usage and the battery is decent. Cameras are also pretty good.
The thing is that it's just not what I wanted or thought it was going to be like and if I could choose again, I'd probably choose the Note 5 Plus (SD636) or the A2 Lite at the time that I've bought it, and definitely the F1 had I waited 2-3 months more.
Never the less, I'll keep on using it because there is simply nothing wrong with the phone, it's just not the best value.
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Ahh I see, you're right. It's not the best value, but it's not bad either.
A_H_E said:
@ferdieses
I've had the Mi A2 since launch (the 6GB/128GB variant) and, because I never had high expectations (e.g., flagship performance/features), I'm generally happy with it.
The first few months were hit and miss with stability issues (CPU frequency/eMMC slowness/battery life) but the Mi A2 is at a point where it works well enough to recommend. Everything about it is far above average but not quite excellent (e.g., 7.5/10).
The only caveat is cellular connectivity. In Canada, it works okay. In the US, it's hit or miss but in Asia, its intended territory, it excels.
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I live in Asia so cellular connectivity won't be problem. It's a good phone but not the best. From what I see most Xiaomi devices suffers from issues on the first few months, it's usual thing for Xiaomi and that's kinda sucks.

Nexus S -> galaxy S2-> Nexus 4 -> LG G2->oneplus one, and now Mi A2 128GB 6GB ram.
What can i say...
Nexus S 350 euros (second hand)
Galaxy s2 360 euros (new)
Nexus 4 almost 500 euros (second hand)
Lg g2 190 euros (second hand)
Oneplus one 64GB (second hand) 230 euros
Mi A2 128GB 6GB ram 230 euros (new)
So the OPO was with me from beginning of 2015 up to a week ago. Went from COS, to CM, to Lineage OS, had to change firmware files for modem and such, data would stop working, random reboots when using waze, etc. Loved the opo, and if it wasnt these issues, mainly the lack of battery life and the rabdom reboots, i would have stayed with it one more year.
Back to now, Mi A2, is a Nexus, or a pixel for the "poors", we will have the updates thats sure, and sure it wont take 6 months like skinned android. So thats great. And one of the things im most looking for.
SD660, is great, but the gpu... It's nothing special. Expect medium settings.
Ram? More than enough. Now where it may lose most of it speed is in the emmc department, emmc 5.1 is fast! But nothing like UFS wich is basically equivalent to a good sata ssd.
I dont regret my purchase, its way faster than the opo althought it also had emmc 5.1, the screen looks great, camera had me impressed, battery life ? (65GB of apps and games?). Better than this, there is the F1 but... Plastic? Iphony android? Almost 100 euros more for half the storage (which is ufs on the F1), infrared for faceunlock (could not care less for that),a "better'" camera and SoC.
If gaming is your main point, go F1! Or since you had a bad experience, go 6T?
If gaming is secondary like for me it is... Got a 1070 Ti at home, no need to game on the phone ? for me, my phone is listen to music, mail, messages, take random pics and browse the web.
And you prefer updates, build quality, and saving some money to buy cases, a powerbank, a QC 3.0 charger,... Go Mi A2 ?
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One more thing i need to had... I like modding my phone and such, but i got into a time of my life that ain't nobody got time for that ?
So i apreciate updates and right off the bat clean android.

Question Galaxy Tab S8 lagging in games compared to Tab S7

Hello
I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.

And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled

Ray Adams said:
And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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This has to do to android 12, s7 was only on android 11, but also is on 12 now. So then it automatically puts apps into deep sleep. You can remove that under battery settings area and remove apps from deep sleep mode.
About lagging it might be new game mode from samsung since apparently samsung did on purpose limit hardware but added a settings into app that let's you gain more performance in games. Should be in game engine or w.e name is and then settings and then Labs and enable experimental feature there that should boost performance and stop limit the hardware for game.

When I replaces S7 it was already on Android 12 but I never observed such behavior. Anyway, I have put game into never sleep list. As about lags, unfortunately I found no options for that

Ray Adams said:
Hello
I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
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I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
Edit: Just fixing typos.

SavXL said:
I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, and I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.

HPLazerJetPrinter1012 said:
Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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I initially restored with a cable, but once I started getting shawty performance, I made a backup on my sd card and restored it from there with Smart Switch. I never used cloud backup since that takes a lot of time for me. After getting suboptimal results with both, I just bit the bullet and slowly started adding everything and getting it to how it was on my old devices. Only then did I get getting substatiall better results. Now I can run a lot of Wii/GC/3DS/PS2 games at 1.5x, 2x, and sometimes even 3x without getting throttled. Not sure why using smart switch tanked my performance, but all I know is that it's not tanking now.

Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later

Ray Adams said:
Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
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I tried formatting few days ago, and that didn't help. At least for me this problem is not related to Smart Switch. Do you also have bad benchmark scores? I understand that benchmarks are not very good indicator of performance (especially due to GOS), but I expect to have at least average SD8gen1 performance, not the level of SD855.

Did reset to factory settings. It is much better at least for now. Benchmark - tested only Geekbench 5. Result the same

Hi.. I'm experiencing the same problem here.. any updates regarding this problem? My geekbench score can't even surpass an exynos 2100.. it only achieve around 700ish on single core.. the first time I notice this is when I tried playing granturismo with aethersx2.. and it can't even handle the 1x reso.. hhhh.. really frustrated here.. please kindly share any clues regarding this topic thanks in advance.. sorry not a native English speaker

I had same problem, but, i solved using this:
ADB AppControl 1.7.5
(disable all game service (i'm not remember how many)). For me it's work great
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i disabled bixdy and others apps too

First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..

The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.

ekin_strops said:
The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
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Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...

Bege21 said:
Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.

ekin_strops said:
CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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I only saw the perf-z indicator from samsung though.. so yeah.. i know i might just straight up wrong about this I just straight saying what I saw.. and honestly I'm not an expert in this.. just a mere consumer..
Yeah I got you.. it goes downhill even after the first one.. what I'm trying to say was that I never reach that score before in warm room so yeah it's mainly the CPU problem..
What mainly being my concern before was I'm scared that I got scammed with a fake/unoriginal/refurbished tab s8.....

Harry Potter plays fluently on Tab S8 Plus here.

I have sent my S8 to my mom and bought S8 plus. Did not restore, set it up from scratch. No lagging in games, including HP. So, it could be related to thermal soliton in S8 plus as it is bigger

Bege21 said:
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
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Yes you have to run 4 adb Commands that also disables game booster and game launcher then GOS will stay disabled even after restart. I've done this and turn ram plus off. I also disabled or put into deep sleep all of the bs apps. I also went to advance features and turned off all of everything causes I don't use the s-pen so no need for air actions and stuff to be on. If you want the ADB commands let me know.

Question Poor performance?

Hello all,
As some of you already mentioned in some other threads, since the middle of ColorOS 12 updates the 3D gaming performance took a big hit. At least one my phone. So I waited for ColorsOS 13 update to see if it brings any changes. To my surprise the 3D performance got even more worse. For example in Diablo Immortal on lowest settings I get 10-30 FPS max. Are others experiencing the same? Or could it be that my phone is some sort of broken?
Surprisingly I got "normal" results in 3dmark and antutu. So I really dont know what could cause this.
I appreciate any contribution or feedback to this topic.
Thanks in advance!

Dema8880 said:
Hello all,
As some of you already mentioned in some other threads, since the middle of ColorOS 12 updates the 3D gaming performance took a big hit. At least one my phone. So I waited for ColorsOS 13 update to see if it brings any changes. To my surprise the 3D performance got even more worse. For example in Diablo Immortal on lowest settings I get 10-30 FPS max. Are others experiencing the same? Or could it be that my phone is some sort of broken?
Surprisingly I got "normal" results in 3dmark and antutu. So I really dont know what could cause this.
I appreciate any contribution or feedback to this topic.
Thanks in advance!
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I hate it. How can games lag on such powerful hardware. But those games that use the Vulkan engine work well, I can play PUBG New State 90 fps without frame drops and if I turn on OpenGL I get 30 fps on the minimum graphics. Call of Duty, which also works on Vulcan, also runs without problems. Diablo works on OpenGL without the ability to change to Vulcan, this is the problem.

OK so at least you have someway identified the problem. Are there no options out there to modify oder alternate the way OpenGL is used?
The problem is that we dont have the ability to downgrade and see if problems persist.
It's really a shame that after almost 2 years we still dont have the ability to unlock bootloader nor root the device.

Question Midrange animations on flagship???

Can someone explain why are animations on my S23+ looking so bad, feeling the same as on mid range A series?? Or am I just missing something?

I have no problem with the animations, but it is true that I set their speed to 0.5

I can confirm this is an issue with the regultar S23 as well but not the Ultra. Phone is laggier than my Moto Edge 30, specially when changing and closing apps.
Might have to do with some settings to save battery life or reduce heat? Hopefully they'll fix it with a system update.

I also set it to 0.5x speed. Feeling snappier.

bornlivedie said:
I can confirm this is an issue with the regultar S23 as well but not the Ultra. Phone is laggier than my Moto Edge 30, specially when changing and closing apps.
Might have to do with some settings to save battery life or reduce heat? Hopefully they'll fix it with a system update.
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What's your csc? Mine is MOT

The_SloPro said:
Can someone explain why are animations on my S23+ looking so bad, feeling the same as on mid range A series?? Or am I just missing something?
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How did you get it already?
It's still in the pre-order stage. It only officially launches on the 17th.

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How did you get it already?
It's still in the pre-order stage. It only officially launches on the 17th.
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People started getting their pre-orders sent to them on day one and started receiving them on at least Feb 3rd.
The pre-order stage doesn't mean much unless you're expecting Samsung to have a firmware update for everyone on Feb 17th to add features.

That's one of the things that makes me doubt if it worth the money. It such a great hardware but somehow One UI has glitches. I notice that when the CPU goes to low freq and then when you touch the screen there is microlag until the CPU is boosted again. At least that's my feeling. But how the others don't have it?

ghiri said:
That's one of the things that makes me doubt if it worth the money. It such a great hardware but somehow One UI has glitches. I notice that when the CPU goes to low freq and then when you touch the screen there is microlag until the CPU is boosted again. At least that's my feeling. But how the others don't have it?
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I haven't noticed anything of the sort so I can't comment on it. Everything has felt fine to me so far.
I did experience some sort of stutter, but that was when I was messing around with Galaxy Max Hz, so I'm just going to attribute it to that for now.

Tacoo said:
I haven't noticed anything of the sort so I can't comment on it. Everything has felt fine to me so far.
I did experience some sort of stutter, but that was when I was messing around with Galaxy Max Hz, so I'm just going to attribute it to that for now.
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I also experienced in the past some stutter and battery drain when using Galaxy Max Hz. It feels like two screen controllers fighting against each other.