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Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad. Many of the games I have tried to play on it have horrible lag. Couple examples would be Big Fish Casino, Clicker Heroes, Order and Chaos, and Hearthstone. I did some testing with my GF's phone, which is the S6 Edge+, her phone does the same thing with clicker heroes. Didn't go much further than that. I still have a few days left to return the phone but I am having trouble believing that both my phone and hers could be defective. My iphone6 didn't stumble a bit on any of these games.
Anyone know if the above games should cause FPS lag? Facebook does a number to it also, but only when trying to make me sync new photos. I may just end up going with the iphone6s because I had zero problems with it the last 2 years.
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Mikey8470 said:
Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad. Many of the games I have tried to play on it have horrible lag. Couple examples would be Big Fish Casino, Clicker Heroes, Order and Chaos, and Hearthstone. I did some testing with my GF's phone, which is the S6 Edge+, her phone does the same thing with clicker heroes. Didn't go much further than that. I still have a few days left to return the phone but I am having trouble believing that both my phone and hers could be defective. My iphone6 didn't stumble a bit on any of these games.
Anyone know if the above games should cause FPS lag? Facebook does a number to it also, but only when trying to make me sync new photos. I may just end up going with the iphone6s because I had zero problems with it the last 2 years.
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Update the software if there is any updates. Then factory wipe(make sure to backup any data to your computer). Fixes most if not all problems with lag.
Mikey8470 said:
Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad.
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Not sure if this is the right approach to this forum. When you say "needless to say" does it mean you were expecting it to be laggy ? Becasue I don't see this to be a common problem. Not even sure why you moved away from your iphone if you were so happy about it.
It would be useful , for anyone to chip in , to know what model and firmware you have.
As for the lag my simple answer is : I have a 920G , rooted with dr Ketan Fware and SkyHigh Kernel, and my N5 is screaming fast with no lag.
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Not sure if this is the right approach to this forum. When you say "needless to say" does it mean you were expecting it to be laggy ? Becasue I don't see this to be a common problem. Not even sure why you moved away from your iphone if you were so happy about it.
It would be useful , for anyone to chip in , to know what model and firmware you have.
As for the lag my simple answer is : I have a 920G , rooted with dr Ketan Fware and SkyHigh Kernel, and my N5 is screaming fast with no lag.
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I apologize for the bad approach. Spoke out of frustration. The model is SM-920T and the build number is LMY47X.N920TUVS2COKC.
I also factory reset the phone and when I tested clicker heroes again its pretty much locks the phone up if there are too many coins flying along side clicking.
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I apologize for the bad approach. Spoke out of frustration. The model is SM-920T and the build number is LMY47X.N920TUVS2COKC.
I also factory reset the phone and when I tested clicker heroes again its pretty much locks the phone up if there are too many coins flying along side clicking.
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That sounds weird, I've had nothing but a quite smooth experience on this phone even just stock rooted. However i do have SkyHigh kernel installed and i have to say it makes a world of difference.
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That sounds weird, I've had nothing but a quite smooth experience on this phone even just stock rooted. However i do have SkyHigh kernel installed and i have to say it makes a world of difference.
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I have already talked to the service rep that sold me the phone. Of course hes like "Eh must be the sim card." He denied that the phone was locking up. I will probably go and get a new one tomorrow before my 14 days are up and they try to stick me with a refurb. I haven't had a rooted android device since the Droid X first came out. Is it a lot safer now days? Just don't wanna try to root a device that is having so many hicupps out of the box.
You don't need to root for great performance. I've been running stock for months and all is very smooth with great battery life.
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You don't need to root for great performance. I've been running stock for months and all is very smooth with great battery life.
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So do you think I have a dud phone then? I think I will go get a new one anyways. It is probably the best thing to do if I am not happy with the current performance of my phone.
It's not a dud. Also, it's not lag, more like dropping frame rate or an inconsistent frame rate. The note 5 doesn't lag, it just can't produce a consistent frame rate in games I play. That's how android is.
I just got a note 5 as a business phone and I use a 6s plus as a main phone. On most games iOS is way smoother than android. It's because the games developed on iOS for very few devices. Android games on the other hand have to be made to run for many kinds of models. I love my note 5 but I just have to accept the fact that games run smoother on iOS because the game developers are able to optimize their apps. This is easily seen in hearthstone for iOS vs android.
My note 5 is my business phone, the iPhone is for gaming. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but the truth is if you want a smooth gaming experience and can't have both operating systems like I do, just go back to iOS.
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It's not a dud. Also, it's not lag, more like dropping frame rate or an inconsistent frame rate. The note 5 doesn't lag, it just can't produce a consistent frame rate in games I play. That's how android is.
I just got a note 5 as a business phone and I use a 6s plus as a main phone. On most games iOS is way smoother than android. It's because the games developed on iOS for very few devices. Android games on the other hand have to be made to run for many kinds of models. I love my note 5 but I just have to accept the fact that games run smoother on iOS because the game developers are able to optimize their apps. This is easily seen in hearthstone for iOS vs android.
My note 5 is my business phone, the iPhone is for gaming. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but the truth is if you want a smooth gaming experience and can't have both operating systems like I do, just go back to iOS.
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Yes. Dropped frame rate in games and in animations (scrolling through lists is the worst experience e.g. Youtube Facebook ...). Rooting and new kernel improves significantly, so it' a software issue, not hardware.
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Yes. Dropped frame rate in games and in animations (scrolling through lists is the worst experience e.g. Youtube Facebook ...). Rooting and new kernel improves significantly, so it' a software issue, not hardware.
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Is there any way to actually go against this and set a certain frame rate? Some guy developed an app that did it for the LG G3 but again they're very different devices so
Yes, there is a utility app from Samsung that allows you to adjust the frame rate and other settings as well. It is called Game Tuner, you can get it on the Google Play store. Enjoy!
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Yes, there is a utility app from Samsung that allows you to adjust the frame rate and other settings as well. It is called Game Tuner, you can get it on the Google Play store. Enjoy!
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Whoa thanks! I actually just got a replacement device a few days ago, dropped my OG on its back, cracked the LCD and wouldnt work. This new device, same settings, everything, its flying, way better than my previous one. The OP's issue could just be his device and needs a replacement
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Whoa thanks! I actually just got a replacement device a few days ago, dropped my OG on its back, cracked the LCD and wouldnt work. This new device, same settings, everything, its flying, way better than my previous one. The OP's issue could just be his device and needs a replacement
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Get the app anyway and try to push the device to be all it can be!
The touch latency issue is very irritating on oneplus 3t.Scrolling on phone is not smooth because of this issue
Anyone else facing similar issue?
It feels smoother than my Nexus 6, the latency is too small to notice on an average day or even when playing games and this is coming from someone who cannot go above 5ms while playing CS Go.
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It feels smoother than my Nexus 6, the latency is too small to notice on an average day or even when playing games and this is coming from someone who cannot go above 5ms while playing CS Go.
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Latency issue is there when u start scrolling or scroll slowly on apps there is shuttring when u start
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Latency issue is there when u start scrolling or scroll slowly on apps there is shuttring when u start
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Oneplus is aware of this issue probably gonna fix this next update.....
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Oneplus is aware of this issue probably gonna fix this next update.....
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They are aware of this issue from past 3 months don't know when they will fix it
This issue is ruining overall phone user experience
I know it exists but how slow does one have to scroll for it to be persistent? I have personally not dealt with it and don't find it annoying. I suppose to each their own. I don't think they will fix the latency by a whole lot, if I know anything about screens then it won't be consistent on any one plus devices. I'm not sure if it's a software issue, or hardware. I don't understand why would they implement a lower latency on a software level.
Coming from galaxy s6 and s7 for example are very smooth. Yes maybe the average don't realize it or even care to think, but there are some of us who likes to use our Fone to be able to do more. This touch latency does bother on some games online especially if it's a fps shooting where ping and latency needs to be at its lowest.
After upgrade from Samsung Fone to this Oneplus 3t gaming now sucks. Please fix it!
I believe it's not touch latency but more like scroll latency
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I believe it's not touch latency but more like scroll latency
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Well, touch latency is the reason to scroll latency scroll latency and those 2 cannot be talked differently.
OP - Is it latency or stutters?? It seems you are talking more about stutters. If you are on stock kernel try clearing cache. If not, try using a more optimized kernel. Stock kernel or maybe use franco kernel and use high performance governor.
If you are not playing a high frame rate game, it should not really make a difference to anyone. IMO.
I'm sorry but how can anyone who have used any flagship ever before not notice this thing with this device. It's killing all the joy out of the device for me. No, it's not limited to scrolling only. Typing is hideous on this device.
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I'm sorry but how can anyone who have used any flagship ever before not notice this thing with this device. It's killing all the joy out of the device for me. No, it's not limited to scrolling only. Typing is hideous on this device.
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They are aware of this issue from past 3 months don't know when they will fix it
This issue is ruining overall phone user experience
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They are not giving a rat ass about this, thy only gonna fix if media starts taking about it again and taking their reputation and damaging the image of company, im very dissapointed i like very much oneplus but touch latency in irritating if they not goona fix this im done with oneplus, switching to another company.....
Someone in my country uses this app to fix the touch latency
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=apps.redpi.touchscreenrepair
I highly doubt it will work, already tried it but don't feel any difference or maybe the improvements were too little to feel or its just a placebo knowing that the said app doesn't required rooted device and yet it will override system commands regarding touch response ?
Pls raise this issue with oneplus or it will never get fixed and oneplus will launch oneplus 4
Is the latency experienced only on nougert or mm
On mm 3.5.3 i didn't experience it but after that update latency issue was there
Coming from an iPhone this is whats holding me back to go Oneplus. I already placed an order for the Pixel XL but the delivery for that is sometime in March...MARCH!
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I'm sorry but how can anyone who have used any flagship ever before not notice this thing with this device. It's killing all the joy out of the device for me. No, it's not limited to scrolling only. Typing is hideous on this device.
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thankyou so much for this comment. I was almost going to buy this phone but will hold off until there's a reported fix.
Lag on a flagship is not a flagship no more.... Im still on the htc one m8, so long as i clear the cache from time to time i dont have lag. Wtf is going on with phones. They appear to go 4 steps forward only to go two back on old issues..
@arter97 fixed this in his kernel sources. It's as simple as switching over to a high priority work queue in the display driver. Decreased latency from 7ms to 2ms according to him in his commit message. Doing the same thing in my kernel for Onyx resulted in a dramatic drop to 4ms from around 10, so I thank him for the idea!
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@arter97 fixed this in his kernel sources. It's as simple as switching over to a high priority work queue in the display driver. Decreased latency from 7ms to 2ms according to him in his commit message. Doing the same thing in my kernel for Onyx resulted in a dramatic drop to 4ms from around 10, so I thank him for the idea!
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When did he made this commit ? Could you link me to it ?
So just messing around with my 4 XL today, I have the Smooth Display enabled, and honestly just don't see a big difference between my 3 XL, as far as scrolling websites, or moving up down in Contacts or Google Feed panel.
But I then went to Developer Options, and enabled the Force 90hz option, and tried going through those same things again, and then I noticed it, everything did actually feel smoother and bit faster. But that's supposed to be a huge battery drain leaving that on.
My question, is Smooth Display not really working or allowing websites to be shown in 90hz?
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So just messing around with my 4 XL today, I have the Smooth Display enabled, and honestly just don't see a big difference between my 3 XL, as far as scrolling websites, or moving up down in Contacts or Google Feed panel.
But I then went to Developer Options, and enabled the Force 90hz option, and tried going through those same things again, and then I noticed it, everything did actually feel smoother and bit faster. But that's supposed to be a huge battery drain leaving that on.
My question, is Smooth Display not really working or allowing websites to be shown in 90hz?
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A better question would be, were those apps stuttery to begin with? If they weren't, then the 90hz is working properly, IMO. It will only kick in when it is really needed. I think that's what they were trying to accomplish with it. But from what I have heard, the latency caused from going from one app that uses 90hz back to 60 and vice versa, can be a little choppy at times. Probably why they gave us the option to enable all the time. Just in case their initial smooth display offering isn't so smooth. I'm sure it will get better over time.
Brownlee and a couple others have stated the smooth display is buggy and will sometimes get stuck at 60.
Are people just gonna force 90hz in Developer Options for now, until a monthly security update fixes Smooth Display? Or is that a major battery hit?
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Are people just gonna force 90hz in Developer Options for now, until a monthly security update fixes Smooth Display? Or is that a major battery hit?
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How would anyone be able to answer this today?
You know, you could just try it out and see the battery impact for yourself.
Brownlee said he had done just that and the word he used for the battery life after was "obliterate" which is a long way from good or even ok as a descriptor. He did say he was going to keep it that way so it wasn't a deal breaker in his use. Would have been nice if he quantified that with some actual numbers but it's all I've seen so far. The tech has been in their portfolio for quite some time, my hope is they just need to tune it up somewhat.
Man I'm not forcing 90hz. I seriously notice a big difference without it. No need for me.
Yeah he said obliterate but he uses his phone with max brightness all the time and using tons of social media. Everyones usage style is different. So got to take those reviewers with a grain of salt and see how your usage is.
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Yeah he said obliterate but he uses his phone with max brightness all the time and using tons of social media. Everyones usage style is different. So got to take those reviewers with a grain of salt and see how your usage is.
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Exactly, this is why I said I wished he would have quantified it, if I knew what he got and how he got it I can make something of it. As is there is little that can be gleaned from it other than it is most def worse. In fact that review was fairly rushed in feel which puts him in good company, there was clearly a lot of people that wanted to get the review out the door quick and I saw many factual errors, omissions, judgments made with little perspective, etc. I understand it's part of the game but it doesn't help us on our end.
I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
Nice find!
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I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
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deadlast_28 said:
I saw a reddit post which stated there is a bug where if the screen brightness is below 75%, 90hz is disabled....
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...s_it_look_like_smooth_display_is_turning_off/
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Well 90htz is a complete waste of time and cost, if brightness has to be over 75%.
My phone's always around 60% screen brightness.
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"Waste of time and cost," because the dynamic doesn't work properly? FFS. If it makes you feel any better, OP didn't even attempt a switch, it's just forced all the time by default. Which, in affect is what you need to do to make this work. Is that a perfect solution, ofc not and I have no doubt that google will fix it. But FFS, quit sh*tting on Google. Either, you bought the device and are now feeling buyers regret, or you're just a troll. Either case, both scenarios will pass...
I would think Google will fix this 90hz bug needing brightness to be above 75%. I expect the next few monthly security updates to have a lot of bug fixes.
It's not like Pixel phones only ones that launch with IS issues, new iPhone's have been known to launch with buggy iOS versions, takes a month or so for them to be ironed out by Apple.
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"Waste of time and cost," because the dynamic doesn't work properly? FFS. If it makes you feel any better, OP didn't even attempt a switch, it's just forced all the time by default. Which, in affect is what you need to do to make this work. Is that a perfect solution, ofc not and I have no doubt that google will fix it. But FFS, quit sh*tting on Google. Either, you bought the device and are now feeling buyers regret, or you're just a troll. Either case, both scenarios will pass...
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Zerokool76..
Irony.... I wasn't ****ting on Google. Get a sense of humour..
My point was simple... If 90htz only works when your screen brightness is above 75%, then it's pretty useless....
And yes I know Google will release a patch to rectify, just like they did with the pixel 2 and the muted colours....
The real irony is another year, another pixel launch and another screen problem !!! Again software just like pixel 2..
Oh and let's not forget the patch that dropped screen brightness to prevent screen burn on pixel 2...
Of course Google will issue a patch..
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skip24ftlb said:
Zerokool76..
Irony.... I wasn't ****ting on Google. Get a sense of humour..
My point was simple... If 90htz only works when your screen brightness is above 75%, then it's pretty useless....
And yes I know Google will release a patch to rectify, just like they did with the pixel 2 and the muted colours....
The real irony is another year, another pixel launch and another screen problem !!! Again software just like pixel 2..
Oh and let's not forget the patch that dropped screen brightness to prevent screen burn on pixel 2...
Of course Google will issue a patch..
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While I agree about the screen issues, I refer you to what I had said about OP. Their devices are forced 90hz constantly. So, in affect, at this point, that is our only option to make 90hz work at higher brightnesses. Which makes it exactly like a OP device. So, it's technically not a waste of money if you can't use it above 75%, because you can. You have to force it, but it works. That's all I'm saying
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While I agree about the screen issues, I refer you to what I had said about OP. Their devices are forced 90hz constantly. So, in affect, at this point, that is our only option to make 90hz work at higher brightnesses. Which makes it exactly like a OP device. So, it's technically not a waste of money if you can't use it above 75%, because you can. You have to force it, but it works. That's all I'm saying
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You're on fire ?lol
I get what your saying.
It's just a fail that you have to go into developer settings...as for 90htz, I doubt if id have noticed it working or not being honest !!
I personally think whilst the pixel 4 is an upgrade over my 2xl, I personally don't think it's a big enough update and some updates imho are a waste of time..
Face unlock.. the finger print sensor worked brilliantly and was in exactly the correct position on the phone.
Soli. Time will tell whether it's a gimic.
Camera..
When the 2 came out, Google were shouting from the roof tops about the highest ever dxmark for the camera.
The p4 camera has improved no doubt, but it's no longer king..
Personally, I'd have kept the finger print scanner. It's a very strong biometric and it worked brilliantly.
A bigger battery. What are Google thinking ?
Bigger MP camera sensor... What could Google do with the latest 48mp sensors and their computer Voodoo witchcraft
An unbreakable screen like the motorola force phones... These phones are getting increasingly expensive..
The 2 tone coloured back.. bring it back. The p4 back is now just like every other phone manufacturers now.
2 steps forward and one back with the p4 I think it's a fair comment
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I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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This has to do to android 12, s7 was only on android 11, but also is on 12 now. So then it automatically puts apps into deep sleep. You can remove that under battery settings area and remove apps from deep sleep mode.
About lagging it might be new game mode from samsung since apparently samsung did on purpose limit hardware but added a settings into app that let's you gain more performance in games. Should be in game engine or w.e name is and then settings and then Labs and enable experimental feature there that should boost performance and stop limit the hardware for game.
When I replaces S7 it was already on Android 12 but I never observed such behavior. Anyway, I have put game into never sleep list. As about lags, unfortunately I found no options for that
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I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
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I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
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I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, and I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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I initially restored with a cable, but once I started getting shawty performance, I made a backup on my sd card and restored it from there with Smart Switch. I never used cloud backup since that takes a lot of time for me. After getting suboptimal results with both, I just bit the bullet and slowly started adding everything and getting it to how it was on my old devices. Only then did I get getting substatiall better results. Now I can run a lot of Wii/GC/3DS/PS2 games at 1.5x, 2x, and sometimes even 3x without getting throttled. Not sure why using smart switch tanked my performance, but all I know is that it's not tanking now.
Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
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Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
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I tried formatting few days ago, and that didn't help. At least for me this problem is not related to Smart Switch. Do you also have bad benchmark scores? I understand that benchmarks are not very good indicator of performance (especially due to GOS), but I expect to have at least average SD8gen1 performance, not the level of SD855.
Did reset to factory settings. It is much better at least for now. Benchmark - tested only Geekbench 5. Result the same
Hi.. I'm experiencing the same problem here.. any updates regarding this problem? My geekbench score can't even surpass an exynos 2100.. it only achieve around 700ish on single core.. the first time I notice this is when I tried playing granturismo with aethersx2.. and it can't even handle the 1x reso.. hhhh.. really frustrated here.. please kindly share any clues regarding this topic thanks in advance.. sorry not a native English speaker
I had same problem, but, i solved using this:
ADB AppControl 1.7.5
(disable all game service (i'm not remember how many)). For me it's work great
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i disabled bixdy and others apps too
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
ekin_strops said:
The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
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Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
Bege21 said:
Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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I only saw the perf-z indicator from samsung though.. so yeah.. i know i might just straight up wrong about this I just straight saying what I saw.. and honestly I'm not an expert in this.. just a mere consumer..
Yeah I got you.. it goes downhill even after the first one.. what I'm trying to say was that I never reach that score before in warm room so yeah it's mainly the CPU problem..
What mainly being my concern before was I'm scared that I got scammed with a fake/unoriginal/refurbished tab s8.....
Harry Potter plays fluently on Tab S8 Plus here.
I have sent my S8 to my mom and bought S8 plus. Did not restore, set it up from scratch. No lagging in games, including HP. So, it could be related to thermal soliton in S8 plus as it is bigger
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First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
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Yes you have to run 4 adb Commands that also disables game booster and game launcher then GOS will stay disabled even after restart. I've done this and turn ram plus off. I also disabled or put into deep sleep all of the bs apps. I also went to advance features and turned off all of everything causes I don't use the s-pen so no need for air actions and stuff to be on. If you want the ADB commands let me know.
Hi all,
I got my oneplus 10 pro. I use it for two weeks already and the device getting overheating very fast. Even if I use navigation, when I'm changing and more.
Can you recommend what I can do to solve it? My device getting really hot
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Hi all,
I got my oneplus 10 pro. I use it for two weeks already and the device getting overheating very fast. Even if I use navigation, when I'm changing and more.
Can you recommend what I can do to solve it? My device getting really hot
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Turn off QHD if you're using it..
Lighten the load on what you're using .
dudu2683 said:
Hi all,
I got my oneplus 10 pro. I use it for two weeks already and the device getting overheating very fast. Even if I use navigation, when I'm changing and more. mepco bill
Can you recommend what I can do to solve it? My device getting really hot
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Same thing happening with me, dont why these days all devices are overheating...
joshmah said:
Same thing happening with me, dont why these days all devices are overheating...
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Mines really cool even when gaming
delete post pls wrong thread
metrixx02 said:
delete post pls wrong thread
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Looks like Luk is having a go too, amongst others.
And lol yes it's the wrong thread but I'm happy to know
its because of the sd 8 gen 1
abdennour.tlb said:
its because of the sd 8 gen 1
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It's more specifically due to OnePlus not spending the extra money to properly cool the thing.
its the worst cpu ever made
abdennour.tlb said:
its the worst cpu ever made
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What is? The 8 gen 1?
It runs everything at speeds I've never witnessed before.
If your phone is overheating then could just be bad build quality but I don't think that's in the SOC.
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its the worst cpu ever made
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It's not though. That same test on the Snapdragon 810 would be much worse... This one throttled so bad that over time its performance was pulled all the way down to the level of a Snapdragon 801 that was also thermal throttling (before the 801 throttled even further later)...
The reality is that it's up to the manufacturer to tame these SoCs. The SoC is designed to boost to max performance when it can and throttle when it hits certain temps. Seeing how the phone can't really dissipate the heat that effectively, the SoC will always throttle at some point under a sustained load but adding things like vapor chambers can extend that window to the point it's ONLY going to be noticeable when doing stupid things like these kind of tests.