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Will custom ROM support extend for a long time after 7.1?

I was debating on keeping this phone, as I wonder how long custom ROMs will support newer Android versions after Nougat. I recently got an iPhone 6 Plus for cheap have enjoyed the much better battery life, but I still love the Android Operating System so much more.
I noticed Nexus 5 support has been quite strong, but I cannot tell how long it will/can go for. (I do not visit this forum often, only to download Pure Nexus updates when I used my Nexus as a daily.)

zerrisk said:
I was debating on keeping this phone, as I wonder how long custom ROMs will support newer Android versions after Nougat.
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I've here for many years. There are good devs supporting devices/roms; also when the original company stops supporting.

zerrisk said:
I was debating on keeping this phone, as I wonder how long custom ROMs will support newer Android versions after Nougat. I recently got an iPhone 6 Plus for cheap have enjoyed the much better battery life, but I still love the Android Operating System so much more.
I noticed Nexus 5 support has been quite strong, but I cannot tell how long it will/can go for. (I do not visit this forum often, only to download Pure Nexus updates when I used my Nexus as a daily.)
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Well the galaxy Nexus just got unofficial 7.1 and it's pretty old so..........

I can guarantee that you will have custom builds for as long as you continue to build them for yourself.

How is the state of the OnePlus 3T right now?

Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you

perezdi said:
Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
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The Nexus 5 is already discontinued when it comes to official software updates. It will only get security patches and even that won't be for long. (In fact it's latest factory image is from December 2016 so it might've fully stopped already.)
As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.

I recently (last week) replaced my 2 year old Nexus 6 with a OnePlus 3T and had the same concerns as you. Would I enjoy another OEM's version of Android? I was even running a really bare bones Vanilla AOSP ROM by the end and loved it.
I don't regret changing at all thus far.
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).

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As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
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Ah, that's so good to hear! This is exactly what I was expecting. Yeah, Nexus 5 had an extremely good run and until the beginning of this year I felt it was still so good as far apps go, but anything web related started being more and more painful. It is still a pretty good phone and I'll keep around for Android dev related things.
Now I'm pumped for the 13th.
Thanks

Didgeridoohan said:
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?

perezdi said:
The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is
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OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
perezdi said:
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems
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This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.

perezdi said:
So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
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I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.

redpoint73 said:
OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
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I see. I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible. The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.

Didgeridoohan said:
I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
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I see. You were just tuning it to your taste and knowledge. Okee dokee. Thanks!

perezdi said:
I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible.
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Google Now is a launcher (AKA home app). It's not pre-installed, but you can easily install it from the Play Store.
I don't think you can disable or uninstall the OnePlus launcher on a stock OP3T ("disable" is grayed out), but you certainly can with root (may want to freeze it before uninstalling, and make sure it doesn't break anything else). But I also doubt it would make any significant difference, compared to simply installing Google Now launcher, and making it the default home app.
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The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
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Haven't used it much, it does the basic functions (move/copy files, looks like it can open archives like ZIP) but doesn't look like anything special. If you use one that has more features (particularly root browsing) you'll probably prefer what you already use.

should i update to oos 4.1.6

guys i have bought a new one plus 3t device and its running mm 6.0.1
should i update to oos 4.1.6
is it better in terms of battery life and performance
p.s i do not intend to root or install any custom.rom right now and want to stick to oos for now
my basic requirements are good batter life and stability

So basically you are wondering if Android 7.x is better than Android 6.x ?
Well I guess the point is quite obvious.
Or why did you bother buying a new phone?
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted

tdssmarty16 said:
should i update to oos 4.1.6
is it better in terms of battery life and performance
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Everyone is going to have a different experience with battery life and performance. Of course, the intent with each update, is to improve these thing (although it doesn't always work out this way) as well as increased features and security.
4.1.6 is running great for me.

RASTAVIPER said:
So basically you are wondering if Android 7.x is better than Android 6.x ?
Well I guess the point is quite obvious.
Or why did you bother buying a new phone?
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
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i am new to the oneplus community amd i dont know about the quality of uldates oneplus provides
i have used samsung and xiaomi devices nd in my opinion early updates from these guys were good but latter on they messes up the performance and battery so thats the reason i wanted to know if i shoukd use the out of the box oos version or should i update to 4.1 6

redpoint73 said:
Everyone is going to have a different experience with battery life and performance. Of course, the intent with each update, is to improve these thing (although it doesn't always work out this way) as well as increased features and security.
4.1.6 is running great for me.
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thnx for the info
feeling positive about upgrading now

OOS 4.1.6 is great imho. No issues so far, I couldn't go back to MM. People sometimes have issues because they flash updates over updates without wipe, and sometimes the phone may need it.
Since your device is brand new and you don't have a lot a data on it yet, I strongly advice you to update your phone to 4.1.6 and then to reset it (data and settings). This way you'll get a clean, fresh and proper update to use your new phone on Nougat in best conditions possible.

tdssmarty16 said:
i am new to the oneplus community amd i dont know about the quality of uldates oneplus provides
i have used samsung and xiaomi devices nd in my opinion early updates from these guys were good but latter on they messes up the performance and battery so thats the reason i wanted to know if i shoukd use the out of the box oos version or should i update to 4.1 6
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4.1.6 It's not an early update, it's not a beta rom.
It's a stable rom officially released.
Regarding battery there are dozen of complaints, but also many users who don't have an issue.
So, you can't really make up your mind just by reading on the comments of other users.
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted

Nexus 5 is 4 years old today.

And still going strong.
Still getting OS updates on DarkROM nougat.
Oreo is nearly ready for daily driver. Thanks devs.
This thing just keeps on working.

My 6p died. Symptoms: Boot Loop of Death. Now I am here posting from my Nexus 5. Works like a champ ^^

Which rom do you recommend? there will be miui 9 for nexus 5 would be great

Congrats for this amazing device. \m/ still rocking.

still rocking my Hammerhead. One of my favorite android device.

Actually i have Miui 8 on my nexus 5 and works very well after 4 years. But recently i broke the glass screen (not display) and sometimes power button go in stuck. So i was looking for a new device, but there are no more new nexus. Pixel are so expensive and also OnePlus become expensive with the 5 and 5T models (3T was the last good oneplus phone for price-quality ratio in my opinion, but unfortunately i can't buy it anymore from official site). Soooo (this is the last "so", promised) somebody has any idea which phone i could buy for a price from 350$ to 450$ ?
I'm looking mainly for a device with a good developers community like Nexus and OP. Thank you!

I hope my Nexus 5 will work well at least till end of next year.
But e.g. HTC U11 Life looks promising.

It's still the most stable phone I own, and has the widest range of custom roms available for it I've ever seen.
Long live 5 :good:

Rebuman said:
Actually i have Miui 8 on my nexus 5 and works very well after 4 years. But recently i broke the glass screen (not display) and sometimes power button go in stuck. So i was looking for a new device, but there are no more new nexus. Pixel are so expensive and also OnePlus become expensive with the 5 and 5T models (3T was the last good oneplus phone for price-quality ratio in my opinion, but unfortunately i can't buy it anymore from official site). Soooo (this is the last "so", promised) somebody has any idea which phone i could buy for a price from 350$ to 450$ ?
I'm looking mainly for a device with a good developers community like Nexus and OP. Thank you!
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Go for a used first gen Google Pixel.

As much as I enjoy comparing phones, there is no direct replacement for the N5. Other phones are always missing something, but - to be fair - make it up on other areas.
If you like the size, you could go for the pixel, but good luck finding that one and for a decent price.
The Android One devices look great if all you want is bare Android with updates, but it remains a question how long that will continue. The dev community is non-existent at the moment as far as I can tell, so no root or custom roms.
I have my sights on the Moto G5 Plus as a next device: decent price & specs (memory/storage/sd) and an active xda community. It's a bit larger and heavier and doesn't have wifi ac for instance.
I am getting bored of my N5, but then there's this new flood of roms coming out and you can play with the latest stuff in such an attractive form factor... I can't find an excuse anymore....

I'd go for a used Pixel, Oneplus 5 (if you has the cash) or, if you want to really stay in the cheap but good af area, Xiaomi A1, in my mind, it's the real nexus 5 replacement.
Anyway, for now I'm still rocking my N5.

I think i'll go for a second hand OnePlus 3T. But Essential Phone is very gorgeuos *.*

I'm running nougat now but i feel it consumes too much ram and occasional lag is common on device with only 2GB of ram. Does anyone still rocking an old android version? I'm looking for a slightly older OS that best for N5 performance + battery. Which rom + kernel do you think is the best? Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

To be honest i miss nexus 5 so much, since i upgrade to Pixel.
I wish go back in 2014 where i got my nexus 5.

JohnMichaelCost said:
To be honest i miss nexus 5 so much, since i upgrade to Pixel.
I wish go back in 2014 where i got my nexus 5.
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Please explain.
Pixel looks like the perfect upgrade from N5. What could you miss? Wireless charging?

lesp4ul said:
I'm running nougat now but i feel it consumes too much ram and occasional lag is common on device with only 2GB of ram. Does anyone still rocking an old android version? I'm looking for a slightly older OS that best for N5 performance + battery. Which rom + kernel do you think is the best? Thanks.
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I was on nougat DarkROM for a long time. Had the same experience with lagging. Oreo feels like it does much better than Nougat. Lemme know how it goes if you return to an old android version.

lesp4ul said:
I'm running nougat now but i feel it consumes too much ram and occasional lag is common on device with only 2GB of ram. Does anyone still rocking an old android version? I'm looking for a slightly older OS that best for N5 performance + battery. Which rom + kernel do you think is the best? Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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try the Oreo rom, i feel AOSIP 7 is much smoother than Nougat

abemore said:
Please explain.
Pixel looks like the perfect upgrade from N5. What could you miss? Wireless charging?
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Since i upgrade to the pixel the experience big different than the nexus 5 the software just same to be honest but hey no more lagg while playing the games and heavy task can't not keep up my n5, Wireless charging I don't care about it.
The pixel camera 15x better then N5 for me
Really hate google just didn't update to 7.0 why sony xperia z3 can update to 7.0 beta, google just make me b*******
Miss so much the android 4.4 since i am unbox in the first time and beautiful design.
My wish if google release android oreo go and someone ported to the nexus 5.

abemore said:
I was on nougat DarkROM for a long time. Had the same experience with lagging. Oreo feels like it does much better than Nougat. Lemme know how it goes if you return to an old android version.
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rockhwd said:
try the Oreo rom, i feel AOSIP 7 is much smoother than Nougat
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Thanks for the suggestions, so i tried AOSIP 7 for a while. It was smooth at first, but then it become quite laggy like nougat, youtube loads longer, fullscreen video rotate took more effort to load. I can't rely on multitasking if i opened facebook app and some app simultaneously. Also, initial memory usage is a lot. I must use facebook + page manager + ads manager because of work purposes and i felt like i was using a cheap 100$ phone [emoji23]
So i remembered pure nexus & nitrogen rom glory back in marshmallow day. So i went back, flashed latest pure nexus marshmallow 6.0.1 + blu_spark 108. I think i will stick on this rom from now on.
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lesp4ul said:
Thanks for the suggestions, so i tried AOSIP 7 for a while. It was smooth at first, but then it become quite laggy like nougat, youtube loads longer, fullscreen video rotate took more effort to load. I can't rely on multitasking if i opened facebook app and some app simultaneously. Also, initial memory usage is a lot. I must use facebook + page manager + ads manager because of work purposes and i felt like i was using a cheap 100$ phone [emoji23]
So i remembered pure nexus & nitrogen rom glory back in marshmallow day. So i went back, flashed latest pure nexus marshmallow 6.0.1 + blu_spark 108. I think i will stick on this rom from now on.
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I think you're absolutely right. N and O lag way too much where it counts: memory management. I went back to stock M recently, and even though the GUI stutters a bit, the things you mentioned plus the keyboard popping up quickly are what make this NOT feel like a $100 phone.

Question Pixel 7

I'm wondering if it pays to get the Pixel 7, considering all the problems that i've been reading about.? Would it be a good idea to root this phone, if i get one? Thanks for any feedback.

stock runs great and you can disable what apps you don't want. i hadd no problems with it so far. so its not neccesary to root if you dont want to but it fun to try diffrent roms.

I just moved from a oneplus 6 (5 years!) to a 9 Pro and then the P7. Each step was a marked improvement. Only kept the 9 Pro for a week as it's app throttling was too severe and I really don't like flashing custom ROMs on current handsets. I see none of the issues typically seen in Pixel 7 reddit posts. Maybe a little warm during charging but less than most rapid charge devices. I disabled Wellbeing and and google home, otherwise prefect out of the box and remains so. Get a case. The new pixel is like holding onto a smallmouth bass.
The difference between QHD and refresh rate is minimal except for the reduced battery life with the Pro, so I am happy with the 7 and will keep it a long time.

I preordered mine, and have not had one issue since getting it. To me it's the perfect phone. All phones will have some issues with some units, but overall I think it's worth the investment.

grunt0300 said:
I'm wondering if it pays to get the Pixel 7, considering all the problems that i've been reading about.? Would it be a good idea to root this phone, if i get one? Thanks for any feedback.
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Feb patch has been pretty stable. January was poo poo. Pixel 7 itself? awesome, recommend it. Software clean camera immaculate. Recent feb patch also stabilize the phone and its battery life.

I had a Pixel 6 and it was a real PITA. Stock ROM was buggy and overall I just did not like the device. Anyway I got a Pixel 7 and for me it's a much more nice device. I guess I will keep it for quite a long time. Usually I buy a new/used flagship device every six months. But I'm tired of that behavior pattern.
I tried various custom ROMs and Graphene OS on my Pixel 7, but I did not really like the ROMs/OS so I went back to stock ROM, and for me that is the best thing at the moment. It's very smooth, fast and problems/bugs are rare. I'm still in love with the Pixel camera system btw.
My Pixel 7 stock ROM setup/stuff I did
Used Pixel Flasher to flash the stock ROM and to root with Magisk. Pixel Flasher is awesome, making things way more easy if you understand the concept (for monthly updates it's great too)
Flashed Kirisakura Kernel to have at least some tweaks and it runs great (used Franco Kernel Manager to flash the kernel)
Debloated the system (getting rid of useless Google Apps stuff) using Android Debloater
In Magisk having the Powerhint Module (for the kernel), Safety Net Fix, and Sui for App Ops
App Ops by Xingchen & Rikka for privacy (editing system/user app permissions with more detail)
Adaway (systemless hosts file / Magisk) with extra hostfile sources for adblocking and privacy
Custom DNS provider for privacy

The P7 is a great phone. I'm not sure what "all the problems" are that you mentioned. Arguably the finger print sensor still isn't the greatest, but it works well enough and the phone also has face unlock if you want to use that.
I had a P6 prior to the P7 and the P7 is noticeably better than the P6. Honestly it surprised me when I got the P7 because I wasn't really expecting any differences. (I took advantage of the Google pricing and trade in values and upgraded for $20 plus tax - I wasn't really looking to upgrade from the P6, but couldn't pass up on that deal. Now I am very happy that I did upgrade).
Prior to the P6, I rooted every phone I owned for the last decade or so. I didn't feel the need to root on the P6 and I haven't felt the need to root the P7. Honestly at this point, rooting would cause me more heartburn than solving problems for me. Perhaps other people are different, but there isn't really anything that I need that requires rooting.