I'm wondering if it pays to get the Pixel 7, considering all the problems that i've been reading about.? Would it be a good idea to root this phone, if i get one? Thanks for any feedback.
stock runs great and you can disable what apps you don't want. i hadd no problems with it so far. so its not neccesary to root if you dont want to but it fun to try diffrent roms.
I just moved from a oneplus 6 (5 years!) to a 9 Pro and then the P7. Each step was a marked improvement. Only kept the 9 Pro for a week as it's app throttling was too severe and I really don't like flashing custom ROMs on current handsets. I see none of the issues typically seen in Pixel 7 reddit posts. Maybe a little warm during charging but less than most rapid charge devices. I disabled Wellbeing and and google home, otherwise prefect out of the box and remains so. Get a case. The new pixel is like holding onto a smallmouth bass.
The difference between QHD and refresh rate is minimal except for the reduced battery life with the Pro, so I am happy with the 7 and will keep it a long time.
I preordered mine, and have not had one issue since getting it. To me it's the perfect phone. All phones will have some issues with some units, but overall I think it's worth the investment.
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I'm wondering if it pays to get the Pixel 7, considering all the problems that i've been reading about.? Would it be a good idea to root this phone, if i get one? Thanks for any feedback.
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Feb patch has been pretty stable. January was poo poo. Pixel 7 itself? awesome, recommend it. Software clean camera immaculate. Recent feb patch also stabilize the phone and its battery life.
I had a Pixel 6 and it was a real PITA. Stock ROM was buggy and overall I just did not like the device. Anyway I got a Pixel 7 and for me it's a much more nice device. I guess I will keep it for quite a long time. Usually I buy a new/used flagship device every six months. But I'm tired of that behavior pattern.
I tried various custom ROMs and Graphene OS on my Pixel 7, but I did not really like the ROMs/OS so I went back to stock ROM, and for me that is the best thing at the moment. It's very smooth, fast and problems/bugs are rare. I'm still in love with the Pixel camera system btw.
My Pixel 7 stock ROM setup/stuff I did
Used Pixel Flasher to flash the stock ROM and to root with Magisk. Pixel Flasher is awesome, making things way more easy if you understand the concept (for monthly updates it's great too)
Flashed Kirisakura Kernel to have at least some tweaks and it runs great (used Franco Kernel Manager to flash the kernel)
Debloated the system (getting rid of useless Google Apps stuff) using Android Debloater
In Magisk having the Powerhint Module (for the kernel), Safety Net Fix, and Sui for App Ops
App Ops by Xingchen & Rikka for privacy (editing system/user app permissions with more detail)
Adaway (systemless hosts file / Magisk) with extra hostfile sources for adblocking and privacy
Custom DNS provider for privacy
The P7 is a great phone. I'm not sure what "all the problems" are that you mentioned. Arguably the finger print sensor still isn't the greatest, but it works well enough and the phone also has face unlock if you want to use that.
I had a P6 prior to the P7 and the P7 is noticeably better than the P6. Honestly it surprised me when I got the P7 because I wasn't really expecting any differences. (I took advantage of the Google pricing and trade in values and upgraded for $20 plus tax - I wasn't really looking to upgrade from the P6, but couldn't pass up on that deal. Now I am very happy that I did upgrade).
Prior to the P6, I rooted every phone I owned for the last decade or so. I didn't feel the need to root on the P6 and I haven't felt the need to root the P7. Honestly at this point, rooting would cause me more heartburn than solving problems for me. Perhaps other people are different, but there isn't really anything that I need that requires rooting.
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Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
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Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
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The Nexus 5 is already discontinued when it comes to official software updates. It will only get security patches and even that won't be for long. (In fact it's latest factory image is from December 2016 so it might've fully stopped already.)
As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
I recently (last week) replaced my 2 year old Nexus 6 with a OnePlus 3T and had the same concerns as you. Would I enjoy another OEM's version of Android? I was even running a really bare bones Vanilla AOSP ROM by the end and loved it.
I don't regret changing at all thus far.
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
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Ah, that's so good to hear! This is exactly what I was expecting. Yeah, Nexus 5 had an extremely good run and until the beginning of this year I felt it was still so good as far apps go, but anything web related started being more and more painful. It is still a pretty good phone and I'll keep around for Android dev related things.
Now I'm pumped for the 13th.
Thanks
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I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
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The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is
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OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
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With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems
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This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
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So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
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I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
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OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
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I see. I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible. The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
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I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
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I see. You were just tuning it to your taste and knowledge. Okee dokee. Thanks!
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I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible.
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Google Now is a launcher (AKA home app). It's not pre-installed, but you can easily install it from the Play Store.
I don't think you can disable or uninstall the OnePlus launcher on a stock OP3T ("disable" is grayed out), but you certainly can with root (may want to freeze it before uninstalling, and make sure it doesn't break anything else). But I also doubt it would make any significant difference, compared to simply installing Google Now launcher, and making it the default home app.
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The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
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Haven't used it much, it does the basic functions (move/copy files, looks like it can open archives like ZIP) but doesn't look like anything special. If you use one that has more features (particularly root browsing) you'll probably prefer what you already use.
As said in the title, I'm giving my N5 to my father. Is it best to flash stock Marshmallow or try something a little speedier and secure but not as stable? What are your thoughts?
Thank you for all your recommendations.
Personally like marshmallow better because I think battery life longer.
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Keep marshmallow or upgrade to nougat, LOS 14.1
if you want to do a little work before you give it to him, this is my suggestion. this is what i did for a long time, before i started really messing with my N5. (instructions for clarification, you probably already know how this stuff works.)
TL;DR: flash stock M -> root -> remove junk [-> unroot]
ive never actually unrooted so i dont know the process, but if you feel its a good idea...
INSTRUCTIONS:
- download and flash stock Android M from the google stock ROM collection. (hammerhead).
- wait until it reaches Startup Wizard and then reboot into bootloader.
- flash TWRP recovery.
- reboot into bootloader again.
- from recovery, flash SuperSU to gain root.
- reboot into system.
- after setting up the phone, disable first and then remove (titanium backup is my choice) any unnecessary app.
note: make sure the app is disabled. sometimes after you hit the disable button it just uninstalls updates without actually disabling it. the app will say Disabled in the app list.
note: you can filter installed apps in titanium backup by Frozen status so the disabled ones are easier to find.
- reboot.
- if youd like, here you could unroot.
- reboot and enjoy.
REMINDER:
removing certain apps can prevent basic functionality from working properly. trial by fire, i know for a fact that the system cannot run without the Google app installed. Google Play Services is another necessary one.
i feel marshmallow was a fantastic generation of android. i was always learning new things i could do. also, as a human with a father i feel he would benefit more from stability than from extra performance or features.
have fun, and be safe.
Stick with marshmallow or, if you want to get rid of Google spying, go to lineageos 14.1.
What are you getting for yourself?
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Stick with marshmallow or, if you want to get rid of Google spying, go to lineageos 14.1.
What are you getting for yourself?
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Two years ago I bought a OnePlus 3T, and I have been using a Pixel 2 for a year now. I wish Google released an improved Nexus 5. There are no good small phones anymore.
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Two years ago I bought a OnePlus 3T, and I have been using a Pixel 2 for a year now. I wish Google released an improved Nexus 5. There are no good small phones anymore.
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I guess the OnePlus 3T didn't do it for you...
How does the Pixel 2 compare with the nexus 5?
I'm using lineageos 14.1 with MicroG, Xprivacylua, and AFWall on my N5 (no Google apps) and would probably do the same with a new phone.
Is he going to be using it as his main cell phone? If you need stability the best bet is likely LineageOS 14.1
Personally, I'm on darkrom 7.1.2 (& elementalx 8.14 kernel) for more than a year now as I need a stable phone but LOS is more up-to-date.
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I guess the OnePlus 3T didn't do it for you...
How does the Pixel 2 compare with the nexus 5?
I'm using lineageos 14.1 with MicroG, Xprivacylua, and AFWall on my N5 (no Google apps) and would probably do the same with a new phone.
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Actually the OP3T is wonderful. The only reason I got a Pixel is because my wife's N5 died, so I gave her the OP3T and then I bought myself a Pixel 2. Like most of us, I'm the unofficial smartphone dealer in the family...
The Pixel 2 is great. The camera is unrivaled and stock Android is lightning fast as always. That said, I wish it was the same size as the N5. No current smartphone can match the ergonomics of the late N5. If I were Google, I'd release the N5 with the same exact dimensions, OLED screen, current camera tech, bigger battery, and stereo speakers. I'd buy the **** out of that phone.
I went from a rooted Nexus 6P to a P20 Pro a few months ago. While I like the hardware, love the camera, I am not a fan of the EMUI Android OS skin, or the lack of root. I specifically prefer the GApps over the Huawei ecosystem of apps that comes pre-installed.
I would like to install a 'stock' Android ROM, similar to my old Nexus 6P, including root. However, I am a bit overwhelmed by all the options available, required steps to get there and the issues people seem to be having. Especially compared to my old Nexus 6P where unlocking and rooting were a breeze.
Note that I am not that experienced with rooting and custom android roms, but I got around my Nexus 6P and guides pretty well.
Could you please point me in the direction what steps I need to take in my situation?
I reckon I first need to unlock my bootloader. I saw some retailers starting to offer these again. Will keep a close eye on those developments!
What ROM should I go for that best reflects the 'stock' Android experience with as few customizations as possible? I figured LineageOS or CypherOS are the most popular and well maintained roms.
I always updated my P20 Pro to the latest version whenever it came out. Is that an issue and/or should I downgrade first?
Can I get the same camera experience on the custom 'stock' Android ROMs? The one thing I like about the Huawei software is the camera that fully uses the 3 hardware lenses.
How is the device updated after installing a custom ROM. Does it support OTAs? On my Nexus 6P I had to manually flash the monthly updates which got quite annoying.
Any other tips, risks or things I should know before starting?
Thanks for helping me out!
Anyone got any tips? Looks like the keys to unlock bootloader are available again, albeit at a higher cost. Would like to start experimenting!
I'm also on that quest to @chillzilla. No one has responded a couple of videos online especially the tutorial for the lineage OS.
Got my code off FH last Friday and unlocked the bootloader.
Since then, I have been trying to work out how to root it and then rebrand it.
Not found anything concrete to work from yet, a lot of guides are old.
I heard about open kirin and I think it's could be the best usage right now, about the camera you can install the apk file of the real rom it's works like a charm. Fill free to take a look I created a poll about the best rom that we can use and see the options and choose what you want to like.
Happy hacking
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I still use my note with last Oreo. Everything running fast and without problems.
I think that the best software android version, most stable and overall good is with which the device appears on the market. But with Note 9 is otherwise, so please help me in this .
Android 10 is a lot of better from stable 8.1?
If you still enjoy it...
For most people the newer the better.
Is it really that battery life is better in oreo? Maybe, as I remember easily could get 6hrs of sot but still that time it was new, so of course the battery performance was better.
I'm on 10 and have no problems at all. Can get 8h screen time on wifi with my usage. Bought phone in March this year brand new. The 512GB Exynos model.
Thanks for answers. I'am afraid after update worse photo quality, lower screen brightness, lower GSM network (A9 for me had lower signal GSM) and overall slower running.
This update is unfortunately "one way ticket".
But for me general advantages A10 is gestures and maybe safety (i very rarely install new applications and control access before install), newer interface but whether better?
This all depends on whether or not that you use mobile banking or financial apps on your Note 9. If you do then I would advise that you install the android 10 update onto your device to patch up the security flaws. Otherwise you leave your device opened to hackers to steal your personal financial data.
I don't use any banking and financial services on my Note 9. Only standard use- texting, making photos, Internet, phone calls.
So new interface ans gestures is worth update or maybay stay with sure 8.1 and still enjoy it?
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I don't use any banking and financial services on my Note 9. Only standard use- texting, making photos, Internet, phone calls.
So new interface ans gestures is worth update or maybay stay with sure 8.1 and still enjoy it?
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Hi, @_GRIZZLY_
If you are happy using Oreo on your Note9, I would not update to Android 10.
I updated from Pie to Android 10 only because of security concerns - the 0-click vulnerability - after receiving a lot of "Likee" codes in Samsung Messages (freaked me out, lol).
Me not likee "Likee" codes, so after reading about Samsung Messages being updated in Android 10, I updated.
I also removed via adb the Samsung "honeyboard" keyboard, Sticker Center, and Keyboard Content Center. Giving AnySoftKeyboard (from F-droid) a spin instead of using Samsung keyboard.
In Android 10, the Samsung Keyboard "Honeyboard," Samsung Clock, and Samsung Gallery are integrated with other applications (Google Search, Google Translate, YouTube, FourSquare (location in Gallery), Spotify). Some folks may enjoy using integrated apps, though.
I'm still on Oreo and consistantly getting 7 to 8 hours of SOT. Plus One UI is just ad ridden.
Oreo SOT from 100% to 10% 8-9 hours.
Happy with Oreo Exynos model.
Thanks for answers. So conclusion is only one- I'am stay with Oreo. Maybe i will do factory reset after 9 months from last reset.
After 2 years look Oreo is little booring for me but looking more serious than OneUI. I use black theme made by samsung from theme store. Of course ths is only my opinion about look interface .
I have my N960N upgrade to One UI 2.1 and it has been running pretty well. Of course I use it for backing up my N950N, which is currently my daily driver. I will probably switch to my N960N. Once my N950N's battery
Oreo is great but life and especially Note 9 life is too short for using all the time only one version OS.
What with photo quality on the A10? Is better, worse, similar compare to Oreo?
No problems with led notification?
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Oreo is great but life and especially Note 9 life is too short for using all the time only one version OS.
What with photo quality on the A10? Is better, worse, similar compare to Oreo?
No problems with led notification?
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Well as you can see One UI is ad infested now and some of the edge panels are gone now.
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Well as you can see One UI is ad infested now and some of the edge panels are gone now.
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I don't use edge panels but infested interface is disappoiting.
With this decision good samsung ends.
Thanks for info.
any eta to something like lineage?
This seems so much better than a pixel 4a/OP 7t and within 100 dollars used....I am returning my pixel 4a due to the poor battery life compared to my gs8 that its replacing.
This phone seemsl like better value than the pixel 4a
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any eta to something like lineage?
This seems so much better than a pixel 4a/OP 7t and within 100 dollars used....I am returning my pixel 4a due to the poor battery life compared to my gs8 that its replacing.
This phone seemsl like better value than the pixel 4a
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Not gonna lie, I don't understand the ongoing interest in rooting/customs ROMs. The last time I rooted a phone was a Galaxy Note 2 - and then only because it had stopped receiving updates, and the custom ROM used a newer version of Android. With a new phone like the S20 FE, it just seems you stand to lose much more than you could possibly gain (e.g., Samsung pay, monthly security updates, full Android updates) - I just don't get it.
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Not gonna lie, I don't understand the ongoing interest in rooting/customs ROMs. The last time I rooted a phone was a Galaxy Note 2 - and then only because it had stopped receiving updates, and the custom ROM used a newer version of Android. With a new phone like the S20 FE, it just seems you stand to lose much more than you could possibly gain (e.g., Samsung pay, monthly security updates, full Android updates) - I just don't get it.
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I was gonna reply yesterday that I wouldn't put a custom rom like lineage on a new phone that's still getting support. that would be moving from 99% functionality to maybe 75 - 80%.
that said I would root for things like adaway, v4a and minminguard and if the support was there I would replace the stock rom with a stripped down version with extra features like GCam. if the support was there the monthly security updates and continuing Sammy releases could be flashed just as easily as update zips. after the first 3 years all bets would be off, AOSP all the way.
I will never care about Knox, if an employer wants me to have a secure phone for work they can provide one. this phone is mine.
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Not gonna lie, I don't understand the ongoing interest in rooting/customs ROMs. The last time I rooted a phone was a Galaxy Note 2 - and then only because it had stopped receiving updates, and the custom ROM used a newer version of Android. With a new phone like the S20 FE, it just seems you stand to lose much more than you could possibly gain (e.g., Samsung pay, monthly security updates, full Android updates) - I just don't get it.
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1. they can security patch your ****t AFTER you root, from what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong
2. Some of us like security for a number of reasons (ie travelign to autocratic countries where there is no personal privacy)
3. Far easier to have hard backups and restores of phones. I get a new phone? I just titanium restore it. Some of us don't like sharing data with the govt.
4. you ever try to pixelize and de-bloat a samsung stock phone? It's a nightmare.
a couple of days ago I saw that the FE 5G was just about to go on-sale in India, hopefully that means a few more devs may come to this forum.
I'm excited for development on this device and I thoroughly enjoy vanilla Android and custom ROMs.
I have more resources to play with typically and I can overclock or underclock my CPU/GPU for best performance and battery. Everything can be customized.
Maybe I could have gotten another device that isn't bloated but this was my only option.
If I had a test FE 5G I would start baking some things up. This is my only phone and I would be out of work without it so, no go testing on my own.
the GSI roms must be pretty close to making workable, I'm sure there'd be many happy testers available.
EDIT: a reddit user has claimed to have flashed the Havoc rom GSI. I've asked for him to share the procedure he followed. if he does that's 2 or 3 GSI roms we can use if nothing else.
EDIT2: seems he just followed guidance from the thread itself and was able to just flash the GSI via TWRP. unlocked bootloaders are a must and there are bugs, being fingerprint reader not working and no video capture @60fps
anyone here that's desperate to try another rom can flash TWRP and backup and try out any of the A/B phh Treble GSI roms. there's even phh magisk. for now it looks like this is as good as we're gonna get.