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Should I exchange my s20FE 5G with Oneplus 9RT/Mi 11x pro?

I don't have any problems with the device, just that I am used to modding my devices and Samsung has made it very unappealing to root/unlock their phones. So if I trade this device, which is still under warranty, will it be a good deal?

that's gotta be entirely your decision as you've got to live with it. Oneplus 9 might've fixed some of it's heat issues or the community might've solved it, but look into that first. don't know much about the Xiaomi other than you need custom firmware because the stock one isn't good and the cameras aren't bad.
I'm currently running Lineage 19 GSI with a modified quick settings pull down, I'm rooted and have TWRP. the only thing I'm missing that I want is v4a and I could submit logs to get that fixed if I wanted. Samsung phones have had Knox for nearly a decade now, accepting Knox's demise going in is standard for Samsung modders. this phone is a rare chance to a Samsung with a snapdragon that can be rooted/modded for many people. custom roms are being worked on but both devs are new to Samsung and really struggling with a final major bug. if they overcome the problem custom roms will start to come thru with greater ease.

3mel said:
that's gotta be entirely your decision as you've got to live with it. Oneplus 9 might've fixed some of it's heat issues or the community might've solved it, but look into that first. don't know much about the Xiaomi other than you need custom firmware because the stock one isn't good and the cameras aren't bad.
I'm currently running Lineage 19 GSI with a modified quick settings pull down, I'm rooted and have TWRP. the only thing I'm missing that I want is v4a and I could submit logs to get that fixed if I wanted. Samsung phones have had Knox for nearly a decade now, accepting Knox's demise going in is standard for Samsung modders. this phone is a rare chance to a Samsung with a snapdragon that can be rooted/modded for many people. custom roms are being worked on but both devs are new to Samsung and really struggling with a final major bug. if they overcome the problem custom roms will start to come thru with greater ease.
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Well that last line gives me hope.

well the truth is the two guys working on roms have been struggling with getting the SIM cards to be recognised for months, to the point of needing to walk away for their sanity. the projects may resume or might not. there are one or two other devs with this phone who've said they'll be waiting until all the official updates are finished releasing. again there, no guarantee they'll even still have the phone by that time.
most guys are using GSI roms for now, they're OK but a full custom rom would be better.

If you like custom roms and development related fun with your device, you should go with xiaomi, xiaomi devices has better developement range and easy way to play with it, but oneplus hasn't as i also own 9rt and i am not a big fan of google dialer and because of only dialer i want to change rom to chinese( as 9rt has only chinese rom and chinese rom might have oneplus dialer ) and i am unable to find a proper thread or guide to get familier with oneplus phone - unlocking bootloader, flashing rom and vice versa. but in same case with xiaomi its easier and lots of videos on youtube too to get it done.
but mi 11 x pro has not a lot of custom roms, instead of this mi 11x has a wide range and you should try this
But one thing keep in mind among all devices you said and includes mi 11x samsnug s20 fe is best as i used all of this devcices and currently i am on 9rt samsung is good with stock rom you do not need to flash any custom rom.
mi 11x has best performance according to price but worst camera, mi 11x pro good phone but so so camera, 9rt is good in 3 of this but no wide range of custom developement.

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My initial issue has been solved! I did some tinkering around with the APN settings and finally got my data to work outside of being on a phone call!! I still have issues flashing different firmwares and os's but that problem will be addressed later down the line.

If you make another Question thread about the Flash issues, you can drop a link here. I might be able to help

oh! thank you! i was initially trying to flash the unlocked u1 firmware onto a t-mobile based note 8 because of mobile data & hotspot issues but i was able to fix it. i'm still interested in root & trying to get a custom os installed. reminiscing on the days of dirty unicorns on my note 2

JayeDohe said:
oh! thank you! i was initially trying to flash the unlocked u1 firmware onto a t-mobile based note 8 because of mobile data & hotspot issues but i was able to fix it. i'm still interested in root & trying to get a custom os installed. reminiscing on the days of dirty unicorns on my note 2
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Cool. My Note 8 isn't my main smartphone anymore, but I didn't like putting Custom ROMs on there, because I found I was missing Samsung's Camera App and all their other cool features.
Kinda weird, I like the smoothness and simplicity of pure Vanilla Android, but all the cool little features of Samsung's OneUI. When I still used my Note 8, I just sticked with OneUI but rooted it for some additional freedom. (and for Custom Fonts and Systemwide Adblocking.. and YouTube Vanced. LOL)

dreamytom said:
Cool. My Note 8 isn't my main smartphone anymore, but I didn't like putting Custom ROMs on there, because I found I was missing Samsung's Camera App and all their other cool features.
Kinda weird, I like the smoothness and simplicity of pure Vanilla Android, but all the cool little features of Samsung's OneUI. When I still used my Note 8, I just sticked with OneUI but rooted it for some additional freedom. (and for Custom Fonts and Systemwide Adblocking.. and YouTube Vanced. LOL)
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yeah i recently came across all the little apps for One UI, i just haven't messed around with them fully yet. but i am still interested in at least achieving root if possible

JayeDohe said:
yeah i recently came across all the little apps for One UI, i just haven't messed around with them fully yet. but i am still interested in at least achieving root if possible
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Just keep in mind Samsung phones have a physical security chip (Knox).
If you unlock the bootloader, that security chip will permanently show that your warranty is void (0x1). You also won't be able to use Samsung Pay, Samsung's Secure Folder anymore, and some other things which don't come into my mind right now...
Samsung Health too, for whatever reason. However for that app there's a tweak you can do in a system file called build.prop... lol
So, there are disadvantages you must be aware of.
There's also Google SafetyNet, which detects an unlocked bootloader & root. And it's been a cat & mouse game to mask/avoid this detection of an unlocked BL & Root from Google SafetyNet, and it sucks. Google and the manufacturers try their hardest to disincentivize users from using their phone in the way they like to.
I don't want to scare you away from making these adventures. It's just a bit rough at the moment for the Android Modding Community and I'm afraid it'll only get more locked up, until Android phones sorta become like iPhones (in terms of freedom).

Yeah, playing around with root and different roms would be fun but i've pretty much settled on how i have things set up with good lock and all of those features. i can't seem to get videos to work with lock+ tho, that option seems to be greyed out.

Question What is the best custom ROMs for Pixel 5a?

Hi
Im new here
What is the best custom ROMs for Google Pixel 5a?
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ALWA7SH6 said:
Hi
Im new here
What is the best custom ROMs for Google Pixel 5a?
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Right now you have pixel experience and lineage os 18. So nothing special, this phones availability (usa and japan) will hinder it's rom development. If we are lucky, maybe we will get up to 5 custom roms.

ALWA7SH6 said:
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Im new here
What is the best custom ROMs for Google Pixel 5a?
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i have only found 4 custom roms for the phone. all AOSP roms just different variations
1. pixel experience (best. not as updated as lineageOS.)
1a. lineageOS (best. updated regularly)
2. Calxyos (big on security and removing google tracking. microg and other non tracking security apps installed. updated regularly)
3. GrapheneOS (not the best due to having to install microg and the rest of the mircog stuff to get playstore games and apps to work)
really its a toss up between experience and lineage. unless you want to go stealth. then it would be calxyos.
with aosp being the only choice base rom for the phone its extremely limited. unless a recognized developer gets his hand on one and ports over a different rom. your stuck with aosp variations

rchris494 said:
i have only found 4 custom roms for the phone. all AOSP roms just different variations
1. pixel experience (best. not as updated as lineageOS.)
1a. lineageOS (best. updated regularly)
2. Calxyos (big on security and removing google tracking. microg and other non tracking security apps installed. updated regularly)
3. GrapheneOS (not the best due to having to install microg and the rest of the mircog stuff to get playstore games and apps to work)
really its a toss up between experience and lineage. unless you want to go stealth. then it would be calxyos.
with aosp being the only choice base rom for the phone its extremely limited. unless a recognized developer gets his hand on one and ports over a different rom. your stuck with aosp variations
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I expect it is a stupid phone and it is not supported and I regret that I bought it
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ALWA7SH6 said:
I expect it is a stupid phone and it is not supported and I regret that I bought it
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You don't buy google pixel for custom roms. There are other phones if you want custom roms and community support.

ALWA7SH6 said:
I expect it is a stupid phone and it is not supported and I regret that I bought it
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same here. i came from HTC, but ATT pushed my phone off their network with a load of crap how it didnt support 4g or LTE phone calls. when it actually did. they just wouldn't whitelist the phone so you could use that feature or wifi calling. so in a scramble to find a new phone i landed with this pixel. biggest POS i ever owned. i thought samsung was garbage until i got this one. its slower than my HTC U11. screen is smaller. it's sad when a 5 year older phone is better than something released in 2021. i have had nothing but problems with it since day 1. text messaging keyboard disappears. text messages disappear. text phones and link disappear. i have to open and close the app 3 or so times to get the message to pop up. maps is a train wreck. half the time i can't close the app or it goes into split screen mode and then you can't do anything. you have to reboot the phone to use it again. updating any of their apps the phone gets worse. every factory rom update is worse than the last one. they never update the base apps with each rom update so im stuck with the same broken crap android 11,12,12L all the same problems. now i know why HTC sold off their crap phones division to Google and kept the flagship phones under their wing, because they found a sucker to buy their garbage low end phone. so google could launch their rebranded HTC phones as garbage pixels.
team twrp would have to get their hands on one of these phones so they could make a proper device tree for it even then i noticed their is some key parts to the factory rom that seem to be missing or embedded into other parts of the images so porting a rom would not be an easy task. then to port a rom you would have to find another phone with similar specs as this one to make it even possible. so you are more or less stuck with Googles source codes for rom building. so then your are basically just building another AOSP rom variation.
all version i listed pull from the same source code when i go to manually build their roms. so really the are all the same rom with just their add-ons and removals of stuff with a few teaks here and there.
so for now our only hope is that on black friday they are selling this phone for $100 and some developers decide to pick one up and start some development on this phone outside AOSP builds.

rchris494 said:
same here. i came from HTC, but ATT pushed my phone off their network with a load of crap how it didnt support 4g or LTE phone calls. when it actually did. they just wouldn't whitelist the phone so you could use that feature or wifi calling. so in a scramble to find a new phone i landed with this pixel. biggest POS i ever owned. i thought samsung was garbage until i got this one. its slower than my HTC U11. screen is smaller. it's sad when a 5 year older phone is better than something released in 2021. i have had nothing but problems with it since day 1. text messaging keyboard disappears. text messages disappear. text phones and link disappear. i have to open and close the app 3 or so times to get the message to pop up. maps is a train wreck. half the time i can't close the app or it goes into split screen mode and then you can't do anything. you have to reboot the phone to use it again. updating any of their apps the phone gets worse. every factory rom update is worse than the last one. they never update the base apps with each rom update so im stuck with the same broken crap android 11,12,12L all the same problems. now i know why HTC sold off their crap phones division to Google and kept the flagship phones under their wing, because they found a sucker to buy their garbage low end phone. so google could launch their rebranded HTC phones as garbage pixels.
team twrp would have to get their hands on one of these phones so they could make a proper device tree for it even then i noticed their is some key parts to the factory rom that seem to be missing or embedded into other parts of the images so porting a rom would not be an easy task. then to port a rom you would have to find another phone with similar specs as this one to make it even possible. so you are more or less stuck with Googles source codes for rom building. so then your are basically just building another AOSP rom variation.
all version i listed pull from the same source code when i go to manually build their roms. so really the are all the same rom with just their add-ons and removals of stuff with a few teaks here and there.
so for now our only hope is that on black friday they are selling this phone for $100 and some developers decide to pick one up and start some development on this phone outside AOSP builds.
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Problem is that this phone is sold only in USA and Japan and I doubt that community regarding rom development is high in those countries. So only enthusiasts who import 5a from one of those two countries can maybe work on it.
Also, this phone is carbon copy of 4 5g (plus bigger battery and IP ratting) even though looking at how they were build they are not the same, but main components and sensors are. So maybe porting 4a 5g ROM will be better than to build from scratch.

predragiPredrag said:
Problem is that this phone is sold only in USA and Japan and I doubt that community regarding rom development is high in those countries. So only enthusiasts who import 5a from one of those two countries can maybe work on it.
Also, this phone is carbon copy of 4 5g (plus bigger battery and IP ratting) even though looking at how they were build they are not the same, but main components and sensors are. So maybe porting 4a 5g ROM will be better than to build from scratch.
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I come from Samsung S10e.
A company like (SAMSUNG) that has spent more than 13 years in the field of screens and phones cannot be compared with a company (GOOGLE) that has spent only 4 or 5 years.
I chose this device only for its size, battery and water resistance, but I did not expect that the Android system in it is so bad and not optional
How can build a Rom?

ALWA7SH6 said:
How i can build a Rom?
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it is not so simple, you have to google it, learn to code and debug and it will take you some time even if you have existing ROM to copy things from.

predragiPredrag said:
it is not so simple, you have to google it, learn to code and debug and it will take you some time even if you have existing ROM to copy things from.
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I dont have time so NO TY

ALWA7SH6 said:
How can build a Rom?
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it's more of a pain in the ass than it's worth. on my dual cpu 16 core system it takes 2 hrs just to build it. i usually just follow the steps on the pixel experience wiki page. if you want to mod it even more you would have to learn to program in c and c++. then with everything being open source borrow someone else's mod to include into your rom. then spend hours or even days troubleshooting, debugging or fixing code. if things are not compatible.
i wish i could get a stripped to nothing rom that only makes phone calls. that's it. the rest of the garbage you can download as an app or get a magisk module to do the rest.i don't need googles BLOATWARE garbage along with all of the garbage they cram down my phone's throat to slow it down to snail pace then go oh your phone is outdated that is why it's slow. so buy this other $1000 phone and that will fix your problem. i go yeah right. the thing is a year old. how in the hell is it out dated. my piece of sh*t 10 year old laptop works just fine. once i got off bloatware winblows 10 and install winblow 10 ltsc without the extra garbage no one ever uses.

[ROM][13][barbet] PixelExperience [AOSP][OFFICIAL]&[UNOFFICIAL]
PixelExperience for Pixel 5a Barbet What is this? PixelExperience is an AOSP based ROM, with Google apps included and all Pixel goodies (launcher, wallpapers, icons, fonts, boot animation) Our mission is to offer the maximum possible stability...
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Pixel 5 >/= Pixel 5a?

I'm new to the world of root and I want to try different ROMS, custom kernels, debloat, etc. I'm fully aware of the risks that come with rooting my phone, and I'm ready to go. I have a Pixel 5a. When I check out the 5a forums, there's not much there. The P5 has all the action! I want to know if I substitute the Barbet images for the Redfin images, can I use the Pixel 5 methods on my 5a?

keylimepienapples3000 said:
I'm new to the world of root and I want to try different ROMS, custom kernels, debloat, etc. I'm fully aware of the risks that come with rooting my phone, and I'm ready to go. I have a Pixel 5a. When I check out the 5a forums, there's not much there. The P5 has all the action! I want to know if I substitute the Barbet images for the Redfin images, can I use the Pixel 5 methods on my 5a?
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You can use the same methods to root, but you can't use the custom firmware built for the 5

xunholyx said:
You can use the same methods to root, but you can't use the custom firmware built for the 5
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Right on. Thanks for the reply.. Why does the 5 seem so much more popular?

Because the 5 was the "flagship" device that year

The Pixel 5 and 5a share the same SoC, so the firmware is effectively the same between them. Still, for the sake of being safe, I wouldn't mix and match.
The only difference between the two is the 5 has 8GB RAM, while the 5a has a bigger screen and a bigger battery. Other than that, they're identical.

Thanks for the info.. How risky is it-- If the biggest difference is in the RAM? About 10 or 12 years ago I read an article about Android and it's capabilities through open source code, so I've wanted to root and mess around with ROMS and different firmware for a long time. Unfortunately, at that time I was in prison so naturally I didn't have access to a phone. I got home in 2020 looking to change my life so I've tried to at least make this a hobby. So far I'm somehow not very lucky in getting the right phones. I thought I finally did last year when I bought a Moto Stylus 5g from cricket. I paid the phone off, cricket unlocked it, but Motorola won't give up the unlock code. Then I got a Pixel 3 but it turned out to be from Verizon and they're haters off the jump, so that was a huge disappointment too. Finally, I have this Pixel 5a. Factory unlocked, incredibly easy as far as unlocking the bootloader and rooting go and I can't seem to find a custom ROM for it. I was able to flash to graphene OS, but there were some issues with my esim so I went back to stock. A couple nights ago I tried Bliss ROMs but I don't know what I'm doing wrong there but I can't get it to work. I got kind of excited about the pixel experience plus, but that guy doesn't seem to be messing around with it anymore, he says there doesn't seem to be enough interest in it. When I look at the Pixel 5 forum, they have all the bells and whistles! I don't have an education nor do I have the money to buy phone after phone. Especially some of the more popular brands. Unless I'm looking at a ROM that requires more of it, how does 2gb if RAM make such a difference? Also you replied to another question I posted. About locking the bootloader.. what happens if I lock it without having the stock and bone firmware?

keylimepienapples3000 said:
Thanks for the info.. How risky is it-- If the biggest difference is in the RAM? About 10 or 12 years ago I read an article about Android and it's capabilities through open source code, so I've wanted to root and mess around with ROMS and different firmware for a long time. Unfortunately, at that time I was in prison so naturally I didn't have access to a phone. I got home in 2020 looking to change my life so I've tried to at least make this a hobby. So far I'm somehow not very lucky in getting the right phones. I thought I finally did last year when I bought a Moto Stylus 5g from cricket. I paid the phone off, cricket unlocked it, but Motorola won't give up the unlock code. Then I got a Pixel 3 but it turned out to be from Verizon and they're haters off the jump, so that was a huge disappointment too. Finally, I have this Pixel 5a. Factory unlocked, incredibly easy as far as unlocking the bootloader and rooting go and I can't seem to find a custom ROM for it. I was able to flash to graphene OS, but there were some issues with my esim so I went back to stock. A couple nights ago I tried Bliss ROMs but I don't know what I'm doing wrong there but I can't get it to work. I got kind of excited about the pixel experience plus, but that guy doesn't seem to be messing around with it anymore, he says there doesn't seem to be enough interest in it. When I look at the Pixel 5 forum, they have all the bells and whistles! I don't have an education nor do I have the money to buy phone after phone. Especially some of the more popular brands. Unless I'm looking at a ROM that requires more of it, how does 2gb if RAM make such a difference? Also you replied to another question I posted. About locking the bootloader.. what happens if I lock it without having the stock and bone firmware?
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Stay on stock ROM. Root, and use this Magisk/Xposed MOD..
[MOD][Xposed+Magisk][13 Compatible] AOSP Mods - System modifications for AOSP-based Android 12+
This is a mixed Xposed+Magisk module, which is made to allow customizations that are not originally designed in AOSP (Android Open Source Project). Features: Currently, AOSP Mods offers customizations on different aspects of system framework and...
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As for RAM, see if this helps, it "Expands RAM memory by converting a part (Internal) storage to swap RAM."

Thank you. I'm going to check it out now.

Ok. My phone didn't like swapper very much. After rebooting, my screen was flickering out of control and I couldn't do anything but power down. After a couple of reboots it started up normally but now I can't use mobile data and I'm not able to access any Magisk Modules. The button is greyed out. Any idea how to reverse this?

keylimepienapples3000 said:
Ok. My phone didn't like swapper very much. After rebooting, my screen was flickering out of control and I couldn't do anything but power down. After a couple of reboots it started up normally but now I can't use mobile data and I'm not able to access any Magisk Modules. The button is greyed out. Any idea how to reverse this?
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oh wow that's very odd how many GB did you do? I suggest 2 but if it's doing that then yea lets rid it.
when it's grey it mean it'sdisabled. you can click the remove button and reboot and it will be gone.

Question Pixel 7

I'm wondering if it pays to get the Pixel 7, considering all the problems that i've been reading about.? Would it be a good idea to root this phone, if i get one? Thanks for any feedback.

stock runs great and you can disable what apps you don't want. i hadd no problems with it so far. so its not neccesary to root if you dont want to but it fun to try diffrent roms.

I just moved from a oneplus 6 (5 years!) to a 9 Pro and then the P7. Each step was a marked improvement. Only kept the 9 Pro for a week as it's app throttling was too severe and I really don't like flashing custom ROMs on current handsets. I see none of the issues typically seen in Pixel 7 reddit posts. Maybe a little warm during charging but less than most rapid charge devices. I disabled Wellbeing and and google home, otherwise prefect out of the box and remains so. Get a case. The new pixel is like holding onto a smallmouth bass.
The difference between QHD and refresh rate is minimal except for the reduced battery life with the Pro, so I am happy with the 7 and will keep it a long time.

I preordered mine, and have not had one issue since getting it. To me it's the perfect phone. All phones will have some issues with some units, but overall I think it's worth the investment.

grunt0300 said:
I'm wondering if it pays to get the Pixel 7, considering all the problems that i've been reading about.? Would it be a good idea to root this phone, if i get one? Thanks for any feedback.
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Feb patch has been pretty stable. January was poo poo. Pixel 7 itself? awesome, recommend it. Software clean camera immaculate. Recent feb patch also stabilize the phone and its battery life.

I had a Pixel 6 and it was a real PITA. Stock ROM was buggy and overall I just did not like the device. Anyway I got a Pixel 7 and for me it's a much more nice device. I guess I will keep it for quite a long time. Usually I buy a new/used flagship device every six months. But I'm tired of that behavior pattern.
I tried various custom ROMs and Graphene OS on my Pixel 7, but I did not really like the ROMs/OS so I went back to stock ROM, and for me that is the best thing at the moment. It's very smooth, fast and problems/bugs are rare. I'm still in love with the Pixel camera system btw.
My Pixel 7 stock ROM setup/stuff I did
Used Pixel Flasher to flash the stock ROM and to root with Magisk. Pixel Flasher is awesome, making things way more easy if you understand the concept (for monthly updates it's great too)
Flashed Kirisakura Kernel to have at least some tweaks and it runs great (used Franco Kernel Manager to flash the kernel)
Debloated the system (getting rid of useless Google Apps stuff) using Android Debloater
In Magisk having the Powerhint Module (for the kernel), Safety Net Fix, and Sui for App Ops
App Ops by Xingchen & Rikka for privacy (editing system/user app permissions with more detail)
Adaway (systemless hosts file / Magisk) with extra hostfile sources for adblocking and privacy
Custom DNS provider for privacy

The P7 is a great phone. I'm not sure what "all the problems" are that you mentioned. Arguably the finger print sensor still isn't the greatest, but it works well enough and the phone also has face unlock if you want to use that.
I had a P6 prior to the P7 and the P7 is noticeably better than the P6. Honestly it surprised me when I got the P7 because I wasn't really expecting any differences. (I took advantage of the Google pricing and trade in values and upgraded for $20 plus tax - I wasn't really looking to upgrade from the P6, but couldn't pass up on that deal. Now I am very happy that I did upgrade).
Prior to the P6, I rooted every phone I owned for the last decade or so. I didn't feel the need to root on the P6 and I haven't felt the need to root the P7. Honestly at this point, rooting would cause me more heartburn than solving problems for me. Perhaps other people are different, but there isn't really anything that I need that requires rooting.