I'm getting unusually high Android System usage. Sometimes it outnumbers screen usage. If I start using the phone at the end of the day(10% battery life), my max SOT will be something like 2hrs with 20-30% Android System use. It happens on every single kernel and rom (SM-N920C). So here are the things I tried:
Stock russian based image with deepsleep fix/stock kernel (CF 2.66) N920CXXU2AOK6_N920COXE2AOJ5_N920CXXU2AOK5_HOME.tar.md5
Stock AUE based image with deepsleep fix/stock kernel (CF 2.66) N920CXXU2AOK6_N920COJP2AOJ5_N920CXXU2AOK5_HOME.tar.md5
Stock based image with arter97 v11 kernel and philz recovery.
Stock based image with SkyHigh v3.5 kernel with philz/twrp recovery.
Dr. Ketan rom with arter97/skyhigh kernel
Venom rom with arter97/skyhigh kernel
The problem is not in deepsleep, because the device does deepsleep when checking through betterbatterystats.
Tried disabling location/location history, android device manager, most of the samsung bloat through titanium backup. Also ejected the sim to make sure its not a network issue. Wifi is connected but when I check from betterbatterystats everything seems ok. No unusual wakelocks or anything. I literally tried everything.
Please help me.
Octa_core said:
I'm getting unusually high Android System usage. Sometimes it outnumbers screen usage. If I start using the phone at the end of the day(10% battery life), my max SOT will be something like 2hrs with 20-30% Android System use. It happens on every single kernel and rom (SM-N920C). So here are the things I tried:
Stock russian based image with deepsleep fix/stock kernel (CF 2.66) N920CXXU2AOK6_N920COXE2AOJ5_N920CXXU2AOK5_HOME.tar.md5
Stock AUE based image with deepsleep fix/stock kernel (CF 2.66) N920CXXU2AOK6_N920COJP2AOJ5_N920CXXU2AOK5_HOME.tar.md5
Stock based image with arter97 v11 kernel and philz recovery.
Stock based image with SkyHigh v3.5 kernel with philz/twrp recovery.
Dr. Ketan rom with arter97/skyhigh kernel
Venom rom with arter97/skyhigh kernel
The problem is not in deepsleep, because the device does deepsleep when checking through betterbatterystats.
Tried disabling location/location history, android device manager, most of the samsung bloat through titanium backup. Also ejected the sim to make sure its not a network issue. Wifi is connected but when I check from betterbatterystats everything seems ok. No unusual wakelocks or anything. I literally tried everything.
Please help me.
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Let the phone settle down after flashing. I guess it so happens because it keeps system wakeclocks to check your usage patterns and then try to save battery accordingly from 2nd or 3rd charge cycle.
I'd recommend to wait after flashing a firmware.
Assuming you have a N920C (single sim), flash the OK7 version ROM (or even the iOiO custom ROM) with SkyHigh v3.5 kernel and allow it be stable after 1 or 2 days and then check. (You'll be surprised with good battery life)
Sounds good?
anmolkakkar said:
Let the phone settle down after flashing. I guess it so happens because it keeps system wakeclocks to check your usage patterns and then try to save battery accordingly from 2nd or 3rd charge cycle.
I'd recommend to wait after flashing a firmware.
Assuming you have a N920C (single sim), flash the OK7 version ROM (or even the iOiO custom ROM) with SkyHigh v3.5 kernel and allow it be stable after 1 or 2 days and then check. (You'll be surprised with good battery life)
Sounds good?
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I wish it worked as great as it sounded. I have done that. It came to the point where the system started asking about optimizing apps (after couple of days) and I agreed. Nothing changed. It most likely is not a wakelock. Standby drain is normal but once I turn the screen on it starts going down really fast, like I can see it going down in front of my eyes.
Octa_core said:
I wish it worked as great as it sounded. I have done that. It came to the point where the system started asking about optimizing apps (after couple of days) and I agreed. Nothing changed. It most likely is not a wakelock. Standby drain is normal but once I turn the screen on it starts going down really fast, like I can see it going down in front of my eyes.
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It may sound odd, but did you try a wipe data/factory reset?
Sometimes it can help!?
anmolkakkar said:
It may sound odd, but did you try a wipe data/factory reset?
Sometimes it can help!?
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Like I said, I have been doing full stock installs, meaning everything is wiped off and I always set everything up from scratch, no backups.
Hello i am a person who hates to do things like backup apps just so I can reinstall them after wiping them just for a new version.
But as I need to upgrade and didnt touch rom wizardry for a while I am looking for help.
My idea is to get
from my current prerooted stock 4.4
TO
prerooted stock 5 or 6
so i do not have to wipe hopefully(ev rom change)
.
how would I do that exactly?
Exact info in image I got the rom from this forum.
img4host[dot]net/upload/29005635588d2fb305af5.png
Thanks for your time. I hope this is possible. Ohby the way I need to do this because AIDE app does not work on sony phones with android 4 any longer it seems. At leastthats what many people reported and I would like to use it as I always get a stupid aapt theme resource error in building my apps. even tried changing theme to holo did not help..
If maybe you have a workaround for that would be even neater because I like android 4.4 more anyway.
That's what I did. 4.4 -> 6.0.1 without wiping internal memory factory reset after, just flashing the rom and twrp recovery. It's recommended to take the trouble to backup & start fresh, but no problems here.
Helium was handy to backup some stuff.
I followed the thread titled: Recovery & Root for MM .575 & .291 LB
..using a crappy old desktop with linux on a usb stick. I did flash Su for root then xposed, for all the good things like adaway, afwall+, titaniumbackup, pmp, sdfix, sdmaid..
Marshmallow is pretty damn slick, its worth it, take your time.
Hi thanks for your answer. I found a prerooted stockfirmware with 6.0 from the same guy i had prerooted 4.4. And no errors whatsoever.
but i noticed some lags here and there whereas in 4.4 everything seemed more smooth. In marshmallow now it feels like sometimes it freezes for half a second. very weird..
Any idea how to fix that?
ActuallyI had 6. 0 before downgrading but I liked the 4 more (look, feeling, compatibility) so I downgraded.
They say the lags will go away after some use..
It may be with not starting afresh (I didn't notice any problems but its highly recommended to), it may be something you have installed or very likely just the new rom 'wearing in'..
I started from stock 23.0.1.A.5.77 to stock 23.5.A.1.291 and applied root, read about the the lags when upgrading and that they go away after some days use as android optimizes (again, no problems here). Try giving it some time and see.
Weird that you talk about AIDE.. was reading about that and Terminal-IDE.
Hi guys,
I'm a bit concerned about my mi8. Since several weeks now the phone is getting so slow to boot, even into recovery mode !
For exemple, today before starting to see the havoc logo spinning I count more than 20 spins. Months ago it took only 5 or 6, 2 weeks ago : more than 8... Etc.
When phone is started first apps tha usualy open really fast (Viper4fx, gsam battery monitor, magisk notifications) are so slow to open. Some other apps same thing the moment I open them.
What do you think about that ? At first I thought my battery is dead. It charges as fast as usual. Discharging is like before I'd way. Not worst for sure So I hope Its nor that.
I'm using battery charge limit (the app, nor from havoc sertings) to stop at 81% and charge it always when the minimum reaches 40%. So for battery life I think I'm doing things well.
I'm still on pie. Please, see the attached picture to look at my version.
I'm wondering what could cause this big issue.
I'm used my make lot of backups with twrp 3.3.1-1. Sometimes 2 per days, sometimes none in 2 or 3 days and so from the day I unlocked the phone and installed my first and only rom : havoc. Sure I installed several updates but no other ROM and I stopped updating it cause it worked really as I expect it should. So...
Also, making twrp backups are Soooo slow. Generaly it tooks depending of the size, between 90 sec and 140. Now it takes more than 6 min !!
So before doing a last backup and do anything I wanted to ask what you all think about that before doing a clean install update/upgrade.
Do you think it worth the try ?
I tried to clear caches (both) in twrp. Nothing :/
I'm afraid I killed my phone memory or battery. Don't really know.
Last thing, maybe an important one but don't know why it would... I installed notify & fitness and sleep as Android for my mi band 4 and I noticed my phone getting slow during this period. About N&F it was on 12.27.2019.
The firmware was updated way after that issue... And of course I cleaned all app caches manualy, not using some weird app to do the job.
Sorry me for this long SOS, and please forgive my bad english. I'm starting to being crazy. OK, the phone works but oooh boy, Its slow.
Cheers
Your rom software is out of date. if you truly want the best experience on a daily basis. There is no doubt in my mind that Xiaomi.EU is still the absolute best experience overall.
It is light years better than the Global stock Rom, all of the bloat has been removed and it has some of the Pixel AOSP features integrated into the Rom. but yes it's still miui. For me that is a good thing because I am a fan. It sounds like you have never tried Xiaomi.EU so give it a shot. I guarantee, that if you keep it installed for a few days, you will not want anything else unless you are just bored. Wait until the new update comes out, it should be late today or tomorrow. by the way, you will average about 7.5 -8.5 hours SOT.
On the other hand, if you are content with Havoc, then migrate to the latest, Its pretty great but the battery SOT time is bad right at 4 hours. This can be improved by changing the kernel. I tested the LawRun_x5.0-60hz kernel and it improves SOT to 5.5 hours, and the OS gennnerally runs better. Other Roms are also good, but lack the abundance of features that Havoc has. A comparable heavily feature rich rom is CRDroid.
If you want to stay on your current rom, then clean your caches, and at least upgrade the kernel. That alone may be enough to improve your recent performance. i dont think you phone is going bad. You likely just have some corruption, or too many processes running in the background.
@tsongming Hi and cheers for replying.
To start, I forget to mention that I'm using a global version.
That being said, I did clean all caches including from all my apps. Manualy of course.
I did use Xiaomi MIUI for very long time. Since I got my first Redmi Note 4. As you well said, I did switch to custom ROMs for what you said.
Regarding SOT... And the reason why I didn't update anything on my Mi8 its because with this version of havoc and this kernel. Gsam bat monitor tells me now : 9h41 (5h58 Max) and before my issue it was 11h !
So, to answer you : before asking here I also trying to update the Rev kernel but lot of things didn't work anymore. Like unlock the phone with my fingers and I think its pretty much normal as Havoc as evolved so kernel did the same and is not compatible with older version I think. At least, mine...
Honestly I tried lot of things to make my havoc super speed, smooth with a great battery and I was happy with that
I do hope I answered to all your questions.
I don't know what to do cause I'm not 100% sure that starting from clean MIUI or custom rom will fix it. What if not ? I'll "forced" to reinstall "everything" (I'm aware of backup apps but dont wanna use them) even if I saved all important stuffs
And if I badly revert to the last MIUI (I never reinstalled MIUI after a custom ROM. I know there is good tuto, but...) I could break it and I'll loose everything. For now it works, slowly OK ^^' but I rather that than taking a risk and found what is the cause of my problem.
Erpe7 said:
@tsongming Hi and cheers for replying.
To start, I forget to mention that I'm using a global version.
That being said, I did clean all caches including from all my apps. Manualy of course.
I did use Xiaomi MIUI for very long time. Since I got my first Redmi Note 4. As you well said, I did switch to custom ROMs for what you said.
Regarding SOT... And the reason why I didn't update anything on my Mi8 its because with this version of havoc and this kernel. Gsam bat monitor tells me now : 9h41 (5h58 Max) and before my issue it was 11h !
So, to answer you : before asking here I also trying to update the Rev kernel but lot of things didn't work anymore. Like unlock the phone with my fingers and I think its pretty much normal as Havoc as evolved so kernel did the same and is not compatible with older version I think. At least, mine...
Honestly I tried lot of things to make my havoc super speed, smooth with a great battery and I was happy with that
I do hope I answered to all your questions.
I don't know what to do cause I'm not 100% sure that starting from clean MIUI or custom rom will fix it. What if not ? I'll "forced" to reinstall "everything" (I'm aware of backup apps but dont wanna use them) even if I saved all important stuffs
And if I badly revert to the last MIUI (I never reinstalled MIUI after a custom ROM. I know there is good tuto, but...) I could break it and I'll loose everything. For now it works, slowly OK ^^' but I rather that than taking a risk and found what is the cause of my problem.
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The current version of Havoc already uses the Revolution kernel, and its part of the current problem so use something else. The Law kernel that I mentioned is extremely good. but so are the others latest release such as Mipa and Twisted. and no fingerprint issues with these kernels.
As a longtime user you do know that anytime you switch the kernel that you should remove all passkeys, screenlocks, face unlock etc.? This could explain the slowness, you have encryption issues.
Android 10 is much improved over pie, except for the battery 11 hours SOT is unheard of on Android 10. Except for 1 guy claiming 11 hours on the ION rom. I tried the rom and it is good. but I am only getting 7 hours Sot, and the Rom is like Lineage, just the basics. No fingerprint issues.
You truly need a full clean install, including formatting storage. just backup your files first.
Xiaomi Miui? Did you mean Xiaomi.EU? if not Xiaomi.EU , then you really should try it, you wouldn't know from a past experience. This is Miui 11 on Android 10 and its flawless.
thx again @tsongming
Yep, I note all what you said to me. But to be honest last year anytime I switched from kernels to kernels I never had to reset screenlock etc. Last year cause as I said once I found the kernel which suits me I stuck with it.
So I can state its note related to that cause I didn't change it since month trust me, just tried the last kernel one or week ago to be sure if it was the cause or not. Just installed and uninstalled apps since.
look at this screenshot you'll see what I meant about SOT which was better month ago. :/ Maybe I didn't explain well...
I'm not against trying any roms including xiaomi.eu perhaps (I do have links for this I think but any link is appreciated just in case. I just download the lastest stable 11 from xiaomi.eu if its what you have in mind) but I want to be sure if it'll fix what I'm facing. You know ?
I'm afraid that doing a clean install with any rom won't fix my beautiful Mi8 ^^
Erpe7 said:
thx again @tsongming
Yep, I note all what you said to me. But to be honest last year anytime I switched from kernels to kernels I never had to reset screenlock etc. Last year cause as I said once I found the kernel which suits me I stuck with it.
So I can state its note related to that cause I didn't change it since month trust me, just tried the last kernel one or week ago to be sure if it was the cause or not. Just installed and uninstalled apps since.
look at this screenshot you'll see what I meant about SOT which was better month ago. :/ Maybe I didn't explain well...
I'm not against trying any roms including xiaomi.eu perhaps (I do have links for this I think but any link is appreciated just in case. I just download the latest stable 11 from xiaomi.eu if its what you have in mind) but I want to be sure if it'll fix what I'm facing. You know ?
I'm afraid that doing a clean install with any rom won't fix my beautiful Mi8 ^^
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You posted a question asking for help, but then you dont want to try anything because you tried things before. Yes, its true that Magisk is sometimes persistent, but it depends on the release. it is safer to remove the passkeys.
But if you really think about it, what would cause the phone to cool down, ignore the battery stats especially from Gsam it's often very wrong, I use it too, for years and in your case you are getting good SOT because you have a zero % for the phone. It's almost like a Sim card isn't installed? Every rom will provide extremely fantastic SOT when a sim card isn't being used. If you have an active sim card then something is wrong with the monitoring because Gsam is showing 0%, it should show something even if you havent made a phone call for days.
Do whatever you want it's your phone:
I still think that you have encryption or corruption issues and its bad enough for your to make a post about it. FYI : The battery dying doesnt slow down the phone. Yes, some stock roms, notably Apple intentionally by choice changed the kernel core settings automatically on aging batteries. Hence the huge controversy a couple of years ago, that isn't happening to you.
A dying battery doesn't slow down the phone, evn cold solder joints do not slow down the phone, they keep a phone from booting to system and to recovery. The only thing left is corruption or thermals, which on this phone good luck editing thermals because they are mostly encrypted. The remaining possibility is corruption, post your log files and lets see what's actually going on.
Again, what would slow down your phone even in recovery?
It's always thermals, or corruption. Slow to start up, even in recovery.: We can rule out thermals unless your battery temp or cores temps are extremely high. This leaves corruption. if its slow while booted into the system, then you may have apps or processes crashing and you are not aware of it. If that is true, then eventually the phone may stop booting up altogether. If its thermals causing overheating you should truly resolve this issue immediately before actual heat damage occurs. Did you ever flash display refresh rate mods? If so your DTBO partition could be the issue....corruption.
Use this program to provide an app list : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.onyxbits.listmyapps ( Weed out any unknown programs that you may not realise are installed. Post the list along with complete logs. Once you see these crashes, that I am sure the logs will show: Do as I suggested earlier: wipe and "format" your phone. Then later use best practices and remove passwords before changing kernels
Cheers. I'll try what you suggest.
I might have some questions in the future regarding format and some other things.
Never flashes display refresh rate and never noticed any overheat issue on my phone.
Sure, I'll do something like you said as soon as possible.
PS : you said "before remove passwords". You mean in the parameters of the phone like schema/diagram, pin, etc ?
Cheers
Erpe7 said:
Cheers. I'll try what you suggest.
I might have some questions in the future regarding format and some other things.
Never flashes display refresh rate and never noticed any overheat issue on my phone.
Sure, I'll do something like you said as soon as possible.
PS : you said "before remove passwords". You mean in the parameters of the phone like schema/diagram, pin, etc ?
Cheers
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You could remove password under data/system/locksettings.bin But it's better to just go the settings//security/ *.* < remove whatever you have setup : prints and face unlock first before, pattern or pin.
Another good practice for Android 10, should you go there is :
Extract the boot image from the rom
Place it inside the downloads folder.
When ready to flash root, patch to the boot image first, ( this links the existing system binary credentials into the boot image)
Boot to recovery flash boot to boot
Then flash magisk > then boot to system and you will have no issues whatsoever with root.
Afterwards, if you decide to flash different kernel, Magisk is more likely to stay stay persistent.
I hope everything is good from this point forward take care.
@tsongming Thanks for reminding me the locksettings.bin thing because I used it once on my old phone and I forgot that.
Never installed 10 yet. But I take carefuly your advice.
Hello!
Did you fix it? Because it's happening to my Mi 8 too. It's exactly the same issue, the phone takes a long time to boot up, to open apps and even to boot into TWRP
I have that issues on my mi8
I had this problem with me before and I solved it by flashing the last official ROM, Now the problem happened to me again and I do not know what is the reason behind it @tsongming
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ahmadbasher011 said:
I have that issues on my mi8
I had this problem with me before and I solved it by flashing the last official ROM, Now the problem happened to me again and I do not know what is the reason behind it @tsongming
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I recently had some issues with my phone as well. I was able to get my phone back to normal functioning by flashing the latest stable fastboot rom using the flashall.bat method. (dipper_global_images_V11.0.3.0.QEAMIXM_20200118.0000.00_10.0_global)
I kept everything stock for a few days even recovery, to ensure once that everything was back to normal.
Next I flashed the latest OrangeFox beta recovery, and I highly recommend the latest beta build over any other version of Recovery, it will decrypt when official Twrp will not. It is now more up to date than the LR Team version, and all of the bugs have been solved by DarthJabba. In fact, he even added a script to work around poorly designed startup scripts, which are suprisening not consistent between the wide range of custom roms for the Mi8.
Today, I am still using Orange Fox, ( OrangeFox-R10.1_002-Beta-dipper) and the latest stable Magisk. I no longer have freezing, unexpected shutdowns, slow starts, or poor battery life. My issue was without a doubt corruption, and bugs with the mid february version of Xiaomi.EU. The last 2 releases have been solid.
Since this weekend I face the same problem. Every action seems to bit slower than before. And I don't know what I did that resulted in this problem. The last thing I remember I installed was the new Miui12 live backgrounds. But I deleted them again.
I'm on stock since some weeks.
But I don't want to install everything from the beginning again.
Do you know how to solve the problem without wiping everything?
Edit: As I think about it, it seems as if the caching of the apps doesn't work as good as before and the killing of apps is too aggressiv.
But what did affect it?
Edit: I found the solution for my problem.
With Android Battery Historian was able to find the process that made the trouble.
It was the Miui wallpaper carousel app. After deleting it the problems were gone.
Erpe7 said:
Hi guys,
I'm a bit concerned about my mi8. Since several weeks now the phone is getting so slow to boot, even into recovery mode !
For exemple, today before starting to see the havoc logo spinning I count more than 20 spins. Months ago it took only 5 or 6, 2 weeks ago : more than 8... Etc.
When phone is started first apps tha usualy open really fast (Viper4fx, gsam battery monitor, magisk notifications) are so slow to open. Some other apps same thing the moment I open them.
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it's a hardware issue and it's going to keep coming back, i spent the last two months trying to resolve it but i gave up.
it seems that UFS chip malfunctions on a lot of F1 and mi8 phones.
danielnavarrowo said:
Hello!
Did you fix it? Because it's happening to my Mi 8 too. It's exactly the same issue, the phone takes a long time to boot up, to open apps and even to boot into TWRP
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Sorry for repling only now guys...
Thx to all who proposed to solve my issue, I will tell you what I did to fix my mi 8.
I did a crystal clean flash :
- downloaded & installed last miui image using miflash
- used "clean all" at the bottom right (be careful to not choose something else like "lock boot loader ")
- then you'll need to flash recovery (twrp), then format data by typing yes. Then copy from where you want your custom rom, flash it flash magisk and boot.
I did this several months from now and my phone is like just new!
No issue at all since.
I guess installing lot of different kernels like I did before must have broken something and hopefully this could help if you dont have more serious issues.
Ps: battery is more than ok and there is no hardware problem.
Thx again to Dexer125 for his help!
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Erpe7 said:
Sorry for repling only now guys...
Thx to all who proposed to solve my issue, I will tell you what I did to fix my mi 8.
I did a crystal clean flash :
- downloaded & installed last miui image using miflash
- used "clean all" at the bottom right (be careful to not choose something else like "lock boot loader ")
- then you'll need to flash recovery (twrp), then format data by typing yes. Then copy from where you want your custom rom, flash it flash magisk and boot.
I did this several months from now and my phone is like just new!
No issue at all since.
I guess installing lot of different kernels like I did before must have broken something and hopefully this could help if you dont have more serious issues.
Ps: battery is more than ok and there is no hardware problem.
Thx again to Dexer125 for his help!
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I can confirm this.
I have been unrooted on stock for a few months now and have had no problems since then.
Hello, I have the slow issue (Androbench app with poor performances) after several dates when I have rooted my phone: Mi8 Chinese version with stock global ROM.
After unroot the phone, several days after, the phone works fine with Androbench app with good performances.
I need root my phone to use Magisk hide for Google Pay in order to avoid the Google block for contactless payment.
Can anybody help me about the understanding of this behaviour?
I do not know the reason why the phone is slow after root and why the phone works fine after several days after rooting.
Thanks in advance. Regards
roberbas said:
Hello, I have the slow issue (Androbench app with poor performances) after several dates when I have rooted my phone: Mi8 Chinese version with stock global ROM.
After unroot the phone, several days after, the phone works fine with Androbench app with good performances.
I need root my phone to use Magisk hide for Google Pay in order to avoid the Google block for contactless payment.
Can anybody help me about the understanding of this behaviour?
I do not know the reason why the phone is slow after root and why the phone works fine after several days after rooting.
Thanks in advance. Regards
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Hi,
Mine has hardware issue (rooted).
Didn't try to unroot it if there is a difference like you describe.
Can't help you with magisk hide. I don't use it.
I have this issue with my mi 8 guys, just happened yesterday
So flashing the latest official rom via miflash is the way to fix it?
Irish_Dude said:
I have this issue with my mi 8 guys, just happened yesterday
So flashing the latest official rom via miflash is the way to fix it?
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Hello, yes in my case. Sometimes, with wipe all, internal storage included, the problem it solved.
Recently I have the issue again without root: only with custom rom flashed. Several times the issue was reproduced out of my habitual site during vacances.
Thanks