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Okay, so I'm familiar with how this works generally... I know it has to be the stock ROM, or at least close enough. I'm on Cataclysm which I've heard works. I know it needs to be temporarily unrooted and the bootloader unlocked.
I would just use XPosed No Device Check, but since Xposed is not working in Marshmallow right now AFAIK, that's not an option. Here is what I'm wondering:
-If I relock and re-unlock the bootloader, will it wipe my device?
-Am I correct in my understanding that people have had success on Cataclysm and it should work?
-Does the fact that I'm using Layers or a custom kernel make a difference?
-Is there an easier way of doing this I don't know about?
Thanks!
very simply, android pay does not work with root.
simms22 said:
very simply, android pay does not work with root.
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It does if you set it up first, then root.
You can run Android pay with Root if done correctly. You can't have busybox installed. Look up chainfire systemless Root. You'll need the beta su 2.56 and the systemless Root kernel he provided. (Leakkernel thread has a version on the thread that someone created, post 5051) use a root explorer to delete su and busybox in xbin
Hey guys! So I read around about rooting Android 6.0.1 and I only see systemless root. I am rooted right now using systemless root and it works fine, but my question is, is there a way to root 6.0.1 with traditional system root? Or is systemless the only way? Just curious really. Will systemless most likely be the future of rooting and the way it's going to have to be done from now on to keep Android Pay working?
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I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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Thanks for the response! And I wonder if it will be what it is for now! It's the only way to keep Android Pay working while the device is rooted correct? Android Pay refuses to work with a traditionally rooted device?
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I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I did. I still use SU2.52. But only until this weekend. I'm switching to systemless too.
Actually building a permissive kernel is really straightforward, needs one line of code added. The build is about five minuters then with abootimg you can just replace the existing with the newly buil kernel in the boot.img, and flash it.
I can give you details if you're interested.
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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Mine works perfectly.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
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Krzysiek_CK said:
Mine works perfectly.
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How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
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I tested 2.61, is problem fixed in 2.62.3? because I must flash 6.0.1 and setup phone again!
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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ive no use for pay, so never tried. i assume its broken..
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
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Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
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What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
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What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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I would say yes, I'm 90% sure but could be wrong. I would flash the a new update with fastboot.
carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Any mod stops ota's. Root, kernels....You will have to flash full images to get updates. You can skip the userdata part and save your apps and data. But you will have to flash.
Not a big deal, it an extra couple of commands just like the kernel you want to flash.
Thanks!
kamkar said:
How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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Clean 6.0.1 followed by systemless root installation as expained in the Root done right thread.
Hello everyone,
I'm having an issue - I wasn't able to flash the newest extracted firmware in the development section so I went ahead and just ran the full RUU. I've been running custom roms for years and I decided that maybe I just wanted to run stock rooted for a while so I unlocked my bootloader again, flashed the most recent TWRP and installed the most recent SuperSU zip.
Unfortunately it does not seem to have rooted my phone. SuperSU is indeed installed in the system folder and it prompts for root permission when I use root apps, but even when I grant permission the apps cannot obtain root access. What happens is it looks like they are going to get root access, the phone slows down a bit for a second, and then I get an error message from the app in question saying that either my phone isn't rooted or that root permission has been denied. If I open SuperSU, it lists all of my root apps with the green hashtag indicating that permission is granted.
Am I correct in assuming that installing SuperSU did not root my phone? If so, is there a way to root without installing a custom rom?
For clarification, this is all on the most recent RUU, software version 6.23.651..10, Lollipop 5.0.2
Thanks in advance.
Which version of SuperSU are you flashing?
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Which version of SuperSU are you flashing?
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Well I'm a dolt, I was using v1.69 but now I see that is a very old version. Going to try 2.46 right now, thanks.
Edit: Same issue on 2.46 :/
For anyone still looking at this thread, I was able to achieve root by flashing the newest SuperSU, version 2.52 which is actually still in beta and therefore not offered if you go to the main portion of the SuperSU website.
SuperSU v2.65 is the current stable offering
A few days ago I posted a question about not being able to install any Xposed modules here, so far no one answered: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-framework-installed-running-t3567230
I thought this problem had something to do with the modules specifically, but it turns out that on my phone, for whatever reason, installing the framework subsequently prevents ALL apps from installing, even those from Google Play itself, displaying a "-504" error.
I see people have asked this question before, but are also not getting answers: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/install-apps-installing-framework-t3430922
Please, if anyone has any idea of why this can be and how to fix it, let me know. Any help will be infinitely appreciated!
What phone and ROM are you using?
One thing you could try is to install systemless Xposed through Magisk. Then use MagiskHide to hide both root and Xposed from all Google apps and potential sources of conflict. If it's a software limitation/conflict, this may be a workaround.
Keep in mind that you will have to root your phone with Magisk rather than SuperSU or any other form of root.
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What phone and ROM are you using?
One thing you could try is to install systemless Xposed through Magisk. Then use MagiskHide to hide both root and Xposed from all Google apps and potential sources of conflict. If it's a software limitation/conflict, this may be a workaround.
Keep in mind that you will have to root your phone with Magisk rather than SuperSU or any other form of root.
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Hey, thank you for your answer!
I am using a Sony Xperia M4 Aqua E2306, rom is 26.1.A.1.112 Latin America Generic. It is rooted and with TWRP installed accroding to this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/general/root-e2306-m4-aqua-guide-t3270521
I also have a locked bootloader, and it cannot be unlocked, so unfortunately that shuts the door on most rooting options.
I never heard of Magisk before, but from what I'm seeing, it looks it TWRP is required to get root with Magisk, but some kind of root is already required on my phone in order to get TWRP. So I'm not sure how to go about this.
If your phone is already rooted, then you can download Magisk Manager application and have it installed it's necessary frameworks through the app itself. You won't be able to use Magisk's root, but you'll still be able to install systemless Xposed and hide it from other apps.
Edit: Ignore all of that actually, I just realized that magisk requires boot image modifications so you have to have an unlocked bootloader to use it.
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If your phone is already rooted, then you can download Magisk Manager application and have it installed it's necessary frameworks through the app itself. You won't be able to use Magisk's root, but you'll still be able to install systemless Xposed and hide it from other apps.
Edit: Ignore all of that actually, I just realized that magisk requires boot image modifications so you have to have an unlocked bootloader to use it.
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Oh well, thanks anyway. I might try it anyways, maybe it will work, you never know. Don't have much to lose at this point
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What phone and ROM are you using?
One thing you could try is to install systemless Xposed through Magisk. Then use MagiskHide to hide both root and Xposed from all Google apps and potential sources of conflict. If it's a software limitation/conflict, this may be a workaround.
Keep in mind that you will have to root your phone with Magisk rather than SuperSU or any other form of root.
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FIY Magisk cannot hide Xposed...
I also facing these problem on my rooted Asus zenfone 2 (ze550ml 2gb ram version, Stock ROM, bootloader unlocked) and Asus Zenpad C 7 (p01y, stock rom, bootloader unlocked). The xposed firmware (version 86) is successfully install but can't install any apps from play store and using apk...
I really hope that dev team can solve it.....
Sorry for any grammatical mistakes....
The only way is to flash the firmware
I'm getting the same problem on my LG G4 with v88.2 of Xposed :/
I don't Know if this is too late,but I also have this problem. But there is a work around, go into the xposed installer and turn the switch off so its disabled on the next boot. rebot the device and exposed and its modules are disabled, allowing you to install apps from play store and downloaded .apk files... it would still be nice to install applications while its still on.
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I had this issue on my LGG3. This happens when you have Lucky Patcher enabled in your xposed modules. Disabling it (Lucky Patcher) should solve the problem.
Hi there fellows ! ^^
First of all, I want you all to know that I really am sorry if this is something that has been asked before. I tried, but couldn't find an answer by myself and I don't want to damage my phone again (I may have been waaaaay too hasty in the past...). So here goes.
I have a Honor 5C NEM-L51 (European variant) which I rooted a while ago (two or three months ago maybe ? Can't remember for sure) by unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP from ADB, flashing the SuperSU zip file... You know, the usual thing. After that I went ahead and installed Xposed Framework, Busybox and several applications and modules which needed root like many of you I guess. Everything went fine. And still is, for the record.
Now I realize that I may have been living under a rock because I discovered very recently that not only SuperSU can be downloaded from the Play Store but also that there is Magisk, an open-source alternative with more functionnalities. Guess what ? I want it.
Soooo I did some research and read this https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 along with other articles here and there on the web and it seems that I'd just have to install some Magisk Manager app' from the Play Store... Is that really all there is to do ?!
I'm worried because it says "If you're already rooted with MagiskSU or Latest Official Systemless SuperSU". Yep, the "Systemless" part get me worried. While I do understand what it means, I can't help but wonder : since I installed SuperSU from a flashable zip file, is it Systemless ? How can I tell ?
Plus the whole thing is kinda confusing to me. If I do that, will Magisk remove SuperSU ? But if so, won't there be a problem with Xposed and other apps that need root ? Same question applies if I first manually remove SuperSU (assuming I can actually do that) before installing anything else.
In short, how should I proceed ? Do I have to remove anything ? Can I do anything ?
Again, sorry if things had been told already. I really want to take my shot, but I don't wanna soft brick my device again by being too carefree one more time.
Thank you for your time and your help.
When super su is installed magisk will make it automatically systemless. But it can't guarantee that it can always hide it. If super su isn't installed /you are unrooted then magisk will install and use magisk su.
Also since you mentioned them: soft bricks can be resolved by just reflashing your Rom, no need to wipe (lose your data) in most cases
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ken2802 said:
When super su is installed magisk will make it automatically systemless. But it can't guarantee that it can always hide it. If super su isn't installed /you are unrooted then magisk will install and use magisk su.
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Thank you for your answer. Can I uninstall SuperSU to install Magisk su instead then ? Do I need to remove Xposed module and my root apps too ?
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Also since you mentioned them: soft bricks can be resolved by just reflashing your Rom, no need to wipe (lose your data) in most cases
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Yeah, I do know that, but I really do need my phone at the moment, so I'd kinda be in a world of pain if I brick it.
You can Uninstall super su if you want but it isn't a must if you don't care magisk su. I would remove xposed before installing magisk and after having installed magisk you can install the systemless version. As for your apps that use root, you don't need do deinstall them
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You can Uninstall super su if you want but it isn't a must if you don't care magisk su. I would remove xposed before installing magisk and after having installed magisk you can install the systemless version. As for your apps that use root, you don't need do deinstall them
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Sorry for the late reply.
I do want to use Magisksu instead of SuperSU. So basically, what I have to do is :
1 - Uninstall Xposed by flashing the uninstaller from TWRP
2 - Uninstall SuperSu (by the app menu ? Is it enough to remove root ?
3 - Install Magisk from the store
4 - Install systemless Xposed from the store
And I'll be all set, correct ? Nothing should go wrong ?
Zarou said:
Sorry for the late reply.
I do want to use Magisksu instead of SuperSU. So basically, what I have to do is :
1 - Uninstall Xposed by flashing the uninstaller from TWRP
2 - Uninstall SuperSu (by the app menu ? Is it enough to remove root ?
3 - Install Magisk from the store
4 - Install systemless Xposed from the store
And I'll be all set, correct ? Nothing should go wrong ?
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I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
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I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
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Thank you for this clarification. Can you also tell me how can I restore the stock boot image only ? Or Do I have no choice but to re-flash the whole ROM in order to do so ?
Zarou said:
Thank you for this clarification. Can you also tell me how can I restore the stock boot image only ? Or Do I have no choice but to re-flash the whole ROM in order to do so ?
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Just flash the boot image from an near stock custom Rom. You can flash it through a recovery menu
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Just flash the boot image from an near stock custom Rom. You can flash it through a recovery menu
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Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
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Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
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You can try but if magisk complain while instalation you need to flash a fresh boot image/Rom
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Zarou said:
Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
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It can be a bit of a bother getting the boot image from inside a Huawei factory image...
SuperSU can restore your boot image when you do the full unroot. That was actually what I was referring to with my 2.5.
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It can be a bit of a bother getting the boot image from inside a Huawei factory image...
SuperSU can restore your boot image when you do the full unroot. That was actually what I was referring to with my 2.5.
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Thank you, I managed to get by the whole thing with no issue. Problem solved !
Didgeridoohan said:
I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
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Hi all,
Yesterday I've unlocked my Oneplus 3T bootloader and installed TWRP.
After that I flashed Lineage 14.1, Open Gapps, addonsu-14.1-arm64-signed.zip and finally Magisk. Reboot and install SuperSu.
But I'm wondering if I still need to flash the Lineage addonsu and SuperSu.
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Hi all,
Yesterday I've unlocked my Oneplus 3T bootloader and installed TWRP.
After that I flashed Lineage 14.1, Open Gapps, addonsu-14.1-arm64-signed.zip and finally Magisk. Reboot and install SuperSu.
But I'm wondering if I still need to flash the Lineage addonsu and SuperSu.
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What are you doing mixing all those root solutions? Pick one... If you want Magisk, you do not need the other two.
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What are you doing mixing all those root solutions? Pick one... If you want Magisk, you do not need the other two.
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Thanks. I probably missed something when reading the threads. I understood Magisk can root my devices, but didn't understood that simply installing it would root my device. So that's why I was flashing su binary and using SuperSU app.
Thanks a lot.
First of all I'm sorry for answering this post so late but I needed to do it.
Well, according to all I've seen about magisk, and obviously with this post, everything I must do to use magisk is:
1. Unlock Bootloader
2. Flash Official Stock ROM
3. Flash Magisk.zip
4. Install Magisk Manager
Is it all? Really? Shouldn't I do anything else, because I'm too worried about it. I've ever used SuperSU until now, and this things of MagiskSU, Magisk Manager and Magisk Hide option are really new for me.
If someone could answer me, including the owner of this post it'd be VERY APPRECIATED and I would thank you all a lot!
Thanks haha
xdaVTU said:
First of all I'm sorry for answering this post so late but I needed to do it.
Well, according to all I've seen about magisk, and obviously with this post, everything I must do to use magisk is:
1. Unlock Bootloader
2. Flash Official Stock ROM
3. Flash Magisk.zip
4. Install Magisk Manager
Is it all? Really? Shouldn't I do anything else, because I'm too worried about it. I've ever used SuperSU until now, and this things of MagiskSU, Magisk Manager and Magisk Hide option are really new for me.
If someone could answer me, including the owner of this post it'd be VERY APPRECIATED and I would thank you all a lot!
Thanks haha
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It's not quite apparent from your post if you have rooted with SuperSU already and now want to use Magisk instead. But, considering that you're posting in a thread that deals with moving from SuperSU I'm gonna go with that... Kind of...
You will need an unlocked bootloader, yes.
If you've rooted with SuperSU you can reflash your ROM, or use something like @osm0sis unSU zip and then flash the stock boot image only. Depends on your setup which option is easier. If you're not already rooted, this step is unnecessary.
Installing Magisk is just as easy as that, yes.
The Manager is also installed when flashing the Magisk zip, so this step is unnecessary. However... In rare cases the Manager doesn't install with the zip. If that happens you just have to install it manually.
The only step I'd like to add is to have a backup of all important data and files on your device. That's always good practice when tinkering with your device...
The release thread and the installation/troubleshooting thread (I'm hoping to have time to update it for Magisk v15.2 tonight) are good resources when setting everything up and if you encounter issues. Searching through the general support thread is also a good idea if issues arise. Most questions have been answered numerous times already.
I'm new to Magisk but have a couple of questions. I have a pixel XL running Dirty UNICORNS rooted with SuperSU. If I want to use Magisk can I just flash my dirty UNICORNS rom, gapps and then the magisk.zip?
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Hi ..I am using Nexus 6 stock rom , super su, and with all kind root apps Xposed modules .
My questions is do I need to uninstall all the root apps first before flashing the UN su zip ?? Pls help sir
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Hi ..I am using Nexus 6 stock rom , super su, and with all kind root apps Xposed modules .
My questions is do I need to uninstall all the root apps first before flashing the UN su zip ?? Pls help sir
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No. You merely need to uninstall SuperSU, either through the SuperSU app (complete uninstall) or by using the unSU zip. You'll also have to make sure that you restore the stock unpatched boot image.
After that you can flash Magisk and you'll be good to go.