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any updates on timing, carriers?
just a hunch...
I got a bad feeling that the US versions of the Diamond and Touch Pro (Raphael) will both be CDMA. My reasoning?
1) early reports were rumored that they would arrive on Sprint
2) the lack of quadband GSM in the current iterations
3) iphone 3g. Think all the hotness will be ATT exclusive? Sprint or VZW would be smart to secure the diamond/raphael to compete with ATT in this arena.
I think that HTC left US GSM/3G bands out on purpose to protect a possible exclusivity agreement with either Sprint or VZW. I mean it wouldn't cost them anything to make these phones Quadband and for close to $800 USD you would expect every feature possible to be packed in there. Of course I have no proof, it's just purely speculation & opinion.
Here's to hoping we get an HTC or ATT branded version with Quadband radio and US 3G... Because I'd rather jump off a bridge than switch to one of the CDMA carriers, not even for these phones.
I think they'll have them for triband GSM for US. It say so on htcshop.com
Hi there,
This is my first post in the forum so I guess that I've searched enough to find out that there's no answer to my question,...still!
I'm trying to figuring out which model is more suitable for my local network providers.
I'm in argentina and still I can't find out which type of network do we have, GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100, CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA (wich would be good to know)
As of today I realize that basicaly there are two models:
HTC TD100
HTC TD110 US VERSION
And that the only difference that I've found is that USA version runs NETWORK on GSM850, but all the other features are the same in both models, at least according to the information stated on pdacomparer
Right now I'm using with a local company and with 3G service, an HTC TD110, at least that's what I think it is, because I've bought it in the USA and for my surprise this unit does not have video calling camera
So I'm looking forward to change the phone with an HTC TD100 but I'm not sure if it will work the same way that the HTC TD110 is doing it.
Any help about know Argentina specification network or about each model would be greatly apreciated.
Gus66
We have certain radio upgrades that may make your Diamond a quad band and so hopefully it should work anywhere in the world.
Regards,
Carty..
video camera???????
my diamond has front and rear cameras...
are you telling me your diamond does not ????
the unlocked US 3G diamond does not have a front camera.
rpassmore said:
the unlocked US 3G diamond does not have a front camera.
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really.....god....not good
Carty,
Thanks for your reply,
So according to what you've said networks shouldn't be a problem? That's great news.
And I can get any HTC Touch Diamond with the only consideration that includes the videocalling camera, that it'll work anywhere?
Where can I get the radio upgrades?
Thanks again.
Gus6606
Hi again,
I just finished doing some extra research on local 3G network and we have the same networks than in USA (GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900 and UMTS850, UMTS1900)
Therefore I won't be able to have video calling (as our lucky friend liamhere) on any HTC TD at least here in Argentina due to:
HTCTD110 only rear camera: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
HTCTD100 with second camera: GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
What I still wonder is whether this restriction is due to network capabilities or some other reason?
I'm saying this because UMTS 850/1900 are both 3G broadband networks and there are some other PDAs (Nokia N95-3) doing video calling locally. So I don't see any technical reason for not having this video calling feature available.
Any idea if HTCTD100 could be adapted for working locally?
I think that I've read about that this is something of the chipset, is that correct?
Thanks again.
Gus6606
I wonder if it's not marketing. I had the att 8525 (hermes) before this, and it didn't have a front camera either.
My son's AT&T S5 got stolen and my wife bought a US Cellular S5 off of Craigslist. My 1st thought was she got ripped off, but I took it in to US Cellular and they unlocked it for me. The phone doesn't have the option to switch to GSM network, so my AT&T Sim still doesn't work, but it doesn't say invalid Sim now. My question is this: is the modem GSM capable, but not listed? And if I root and flash another rom, will that enable the settings for GSM ?
I did notice the unlocked bootloader. I just rooted it very easily. Now if I can just get it to work on ATT.
sizemore2000 said:
My son's AT&T S5 got stolen and my wife bought a US Cellular S5 off of Craigslist. My 1st thought was she got ripped off, but I took it in to US Cellular and they unlocked it for me. The phone doesn't have the option to switch to GSM network, so my AT&T Sim still doesn't work, but it doesn't say invalid Sim now. My question is this: is the modem GSM capable, but not listed? And if I root and flash another rom, will that enable the settings for GSM ?
I did notice the unlocked bootloader. I just rooted it very easily. Now if I can just get it to work on ATT.
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the unfortunate answer is no, CDMA devices do not work on GSM networks.
Thank you sir. Guess I'll put this one up for sale for a Sprint, Verizon, or US Cellular customer.
sizemore2000 said:
My son's AT&T S5 got stolen and my wife bought a US Cellular S5 off of Craigslist. My 1st thought was she got ripped off, but I took it in to US Cellular and they unlocked it for me. The phone doesn't have the option to switch to GSM network, so my AT&T Sim still doesn't work, but it doesn't say invalid Sim now. My question is this: is the modem GSM capable, but not listed? And if I root and flash another rom, will that enable the settings for GSM ?
I did notice the unlocked bootloader. I just rooted it very easily. Now if I can just get it to work on ATT.
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Usually CDMA Phones wont work on GSM Network. But Verizon CDMA Phones does work on GSM too when unlocked as they have GSM Frequency.
I looked at Spec of US Cellular S5 and looks they don't have GSM Frequency. Its more like a strip down version and no GSM Frequency.
Here are the spec for
US Cellular
FREQUENCIES AND DATA TYPE
LTE: Bands 2/4/5/12/17; CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/1900MHz
Verizon S5
FREQUENCIES AND DATA TYPE
LTE: Bands 4/13; CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/1900MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz
ATT
FREQUENCIES AND DATA TYPE
LTE: Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz;
sakdroid said:
Usually CDMA Phones wont work on GSM Network. But Verizon CDMA Phones does work on GSM too when unlocked as they have GSM Frequency.
I looked at Spec of US Cellular S5 and looks they don't have GSM Frequency. Its more like a strip down version and no GSM Frequency.
Here are the spec for
US Cellular
FREQUENCIES AND DATA TYPE
LTE: Bands 2/4/5/12/17; CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/1900MHz
Verizon S5
FREQUENCIES AND DATA TYPE
LTE: Bands 4/13; CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/1900MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz
ATT
FREQUENCIES AND DATA TYPE
LTE: Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz;
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Verizon switched to GSM thats why there devices will ocasionally work as long as the freqs are the same (some arent)
they still also have CDMA/EVDO configs as well since their network is still supporting both once they complete the switch over (from what ive been told mid to late 2016) they will no longer support any CDMA devices.
cstayton said:
Verizon switched to GSM thats why there devices will ocasionally work as long as the freqs are the same (some arent)
they still also have CDMA/EVDO configs as well since their network is still supporting both once they complete the switch over (from what ive been told mid to late 2016) they will no longer support any CDMA devices.
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Sorry to sound harsh but what you're saying is complete nonsense. Verizon did not (and is not planning on a) switch to GSM. They were, and still are a CDMA carrier.
The reason Verizon devices support GSM is so that their customers can roam in countries outside the US, some of which happen to use the same GSM frequencies as AT&T and T-Mobile do in the US (and therefore, by extension, support these two carriers domestically). And since all Verizon devices which include support for LTE are completely unlocked, in most instances you can take the phone and use it on AT&T or T-Mobile US. That said, when it comes to LTE specifically, these devices often do not have all of the LTE bands supported by T-Mobile and AT&T so on them they will often only work on GSM (2G) or UMTS (3G).
The reason the US Cellular variant won't work on AT&T or T-Mobile is because it looks like US Cellular didn't care about giving their customers the capability to roam internationally with their variant of the S5 - meaning they had the phone made in such a way that it doesn't support any GSM or UMTS bands at all.
myphone12345 said:
Sorry to sound harsh but what you're saying is complete nonsense. Verizon did not (and is not planning on a) switch to GSM. They were, and still are a CDMA carrier.
The reason Verizon devices support GSM is so that their customers can roam in countries outside the US, some of which happen to use the same GSM frequencies as AT&T and T-Mobile do in the US (and therefore, by extension, support these two carriers domestically). And since all Verizon devices which include support for LTE are completely unlocked, in most instances you can take the phone and use it on AT&T or T-Mobile US. That said, when it comes to LTE specifically, these devices often do not have all of the LTE bands supported by T-Mobile and AT&T so on them they will often only work on GSM (2G) or UMTS (3G).
The reason the US Cellular variant won't work on AT&T or T-Mobile is because it looks like US Cellular didn't care about giving their customers the capability to roam internationally with their variant of the S5 - meaning they had the phone made in such a way that it doesn't support any GSM or UMTS bands at all.
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calm down dude, i'm only passing on information that was provided to me by the local verizon store manager and unless your a verizon employee im gonna go with what im told by a verizon employee
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calm down dude, i'm only passing on information that was provided to me by the local verizon store manager and unless your a verizon employee im gonna go with what im told by a verizon employee
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I can tell you with 100% certainty that the person you talked to has no clue whatsoever (and Lord help Verizon if that is the level of technical understanding of their store managers ).
My suspicion as to where the confusion is coming from is that at some point in the future Verizon will stop putting CDMA radios in their devices and rely solely on VoLTE (voice over LTE) technology to provide voice services (currently most voice calls on Verizon are carried on their CDMA network). However, that certainly doesn't mean that they will be shutting off their CDMA service anytime in the foreseeable future .since they will still have a lot of legacy devices whose voice support will only be on CDMA. Nor does it mean that they are switching over to GSM, which is certainly not something they are planning on doing.
myphone12345 said:
I can tell you with 100% certainty that the person you talked to has no clue whatsoever (and Lord help Verizon if that is the level of technical understanding of their store managers ).
My suspicion as to where the confusion is coming from is that at some point in the future Verizon will stop putting CDMA radios in their devices and rely solely on VoLTE (voice over LTE) technology to provide voice services (currently most voice calls on Verizon are carried on their CDMA network). However, that certainly doesn't mean that they will be shutting off their CDMA service anytime in the foreseeable future .since they will still have a lot of legacy devices whose voice support will only be on CDMA. Nor does it mean that they are switching over to GSM, which is certainly not something they are planning on doing.
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well like i said was info passed on by a verizon store manager so take that as you may im not a verizon customer nor will i be since they dont provide coverage where i need it.
Thanks for the info. I ended up selling the phone on ebay and now the guy wants to send it back claiming it's only unlocked for us cellular. I told him it should work on any cdma network, but they might have to flash it on their network. Oh well, if all else fails, I can use it to download movies and stream to the TV! Lol.
I'll install Kodi on it and use it as a media center.
Lol
cstayton said:
Verizon switched to GSM thats why there devices will ocasionally work as long as the freqs are the same (some arent)
they still also have CDMA/EVDO configs as well since their network is still supporting both once they complete the switch over (from what ive been told mid to late 2016) they will no longer support any CDMA devices.
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I'm just gonna LMAO to this reply. Lol. It's an old thread but I'm assuming you have done some research and realize your answer is wrong pertaining to Verizon and GSM. Have a great day.
Hi,
I am using honor 4x in India, now I am trying it with AT&T connection in USA.
Phone is not connecting to the AT&T service.
Any specific reason?
Is it locked or it does not support the AT&T range bands?
Thanks.
Probably it doesn't support At&t bands (in the area where you are)
a lot of Huawei phones arent supported on USA bands if im not wrong, an exception is the nexus 6p
may be bands are not supported
If you're using the Nokia 9 Pureview (TA-1082, aka U.S. model) on T-Mobile and you've confirmed VoLTE because the calls stay in 4G LTE for the ENTIRE duration of the call, please reply here and let us know to confirm.
Thanks!!
Read here, https://forum.xda-developers.com/9-pureview/how-to/volte-discussion-carriers-dont-t3909745
Both at&t and tmobile volte confirmed worked.