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hello guys
i am new to the android world and i am having alot of fun using it
its simply amazing and i decided to go further with new roms
i started by rooting my SGS and i had alot of features after that
i saw ics and am disperate to install it but am afraid
the point is i don't have any experience in android or programming
so plz answer my questions:
1-can i pack up the stock os from my mobile in order to return back to it in case anything goes wrong?
2-what is the difference between kernel and ios?
3-can anything wrong in flashing a new rom cause device hardware mulfunction?
thank u in advance hope someone answer me ASAP
diaa_khalouf
Electronic and Telecommunications Engineer
CCNP,CCNA VOIP.
1- you can revert back to your stock OS by doing the nandroid backup before flash to other custom rom.
2- kernel and iOS is totally different things. iOS is an OS use by Apple. Kernel is a core that provides basic services all others parts in operating system. OS is a set of program that manage computer hardware and provides services for application software.
3- You must bare your own risk to flash your phone coz bad thing may happen. But if you follow the instructions properly, it won't have any problem.
thx very much but i didnt mean ios from apple i ment the difference between a kernel and a rom
and for the nandroid backup is it a software? does it have anything to do with titanium backup?
thx again
my understanding of nandroid backup is it sits on the recovery menu. it is found on most custom kernel here on xda. it backup your entire phone except those files found on sdcard. titanium is mostly for apps
if you want to try another rom, it is best you use nandroid, just in case you want to revert back
Nand backup is accessible using the recovery menu. but from what i can tell some recovery's wont accept backups made using different recovery's. it is a direct copy of the memory stored there. unlike titanium that backs up the .apks and what not.
roms contain kernels and modems and the android operating system. but there are kernels that you can use that are not stock and can be installed/flashed using the same method in the recovery menu. they are interchangeable as long as its compatible with the rom. same i believe goes for modems. usually if you search the forums, any Samsung based kernel will go with any Samsung based ROM. same goes for asop/CM7 i believe.
Hello folks,
I know there is no way to backup at the moment. I check the forums daily to see if there have been any updates, but honestly I'm not entirely sure what I should be looking for. Hence this thread- What new developments do we need to reach the point of doing nandroid backups or otherwise repairing any damage we might unintentionally inflict on our shiny new fires? Will it require a rom manager? The ability to boot into recovery mode? What should I look for, and how can I help?
Also, can someone describe the risks of rooting right now? Is it reasonable to assume that we could restore to factory later, once a backup method is developed?
Hi All,
Just curious how serious the eMMC bug is, and whether the N7000 is still worth getting??
1) Is the bug only present in ICS Roms, with unsafe kernels?
2) Is the phone safe using any of the GB or JB Roms, assuming it is only ICS thats at fault with the chip?
3) I've heard CWM is also dangerous to use, is there a certain one/version to use? (namely, Philz?)
4) How do you prepare the phone from ROM flash? All other Android devices I use to do Factory Reset Wipe in CWM, followed by wiping System and the Cache section. What can I do now, or cant I do... for fear of bricking?
5) Is this App [GalaxSim Unlock, by spocky] ok to unlock, does it work or can it be dangerous in light of eMMC? Or should I get a carrier unlock?
6) If using this phone normally, normal Apps... Is there a risk to bricking if the App write to write to the internal storage?? (such as saving files/settings) or is only if you attempt to wipe it?
7) Whats the absolute do's and DONT's with this device, like to stay away from....
I'm really keen to buy it, but dont want to end up with a BRICK through a silly mistake....
- sorry for all the questions, just really confused by whats ok and whats not...
Thanks, Lister
Emmc brick bug was there in ICS for sure but it is not worth trying on JB as it is no fun to see if the device gets bricked or not.
You can use GB (which has safe kernel) you can do the wipes. ICS and JB there are many custom kernel which are brick bug safe, meaning that it would not brick your phone if you have these kernel (say Philz for example) which also give you CWM and you can do wipes as many times you want without the risk of getting bricked. Philz kernel is available for all the versions.
For how to flash stock rom and list of stock roms use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
i dont have any idea about unlock, you may wait for someone to respond to that.
when using the phone normally there is no risk of brick.
Dont wipe the device on stock recovery and you are safe, to be safer always use Philz kernel. if you want to claim warranty at any time you can always flash stock rom again.
Own a note for 5 months now and this device is as good as any for the flashing of ROMs and kernels. So this is surely a safe buy. The PhilZ kernel is not particularly what i am fond of as it caused problems for the flashing of certain ROMs as the recovery is CWM based and not CWM recovery. And i do not have any info about the unlock app
Hi Treacherous_Hawk and Varad297,
Thank you both for your comments and suggestions, all this info I am picking up is very useful for me... As I may of said above, but have certainly said in other places across this board (and other sites). I'm fairly ok/confidant when it comes to Android, and the other Android hardware in my collection. (ZTE Blade, HP Touchpad, and MK802-II) Dont suffer from any kinda serious bug, and are brick free, they will never die... But I must admit, I am a little scared of this eMMC bug in N7000.
So thanks for putting my mind at rest....
If / When I do get this phone (through a mate of a mate), in October when her contract runs out. Will be locked to Vodafone UK, and I am T-Mobile UK, and I believe its currently running on Android 4.1.2 JB Stock.
However I want to flash the P.A.C. Rom to it straight away, as I have this on my ZTE Blade and HP Touchpad and love it...
So whats the best way to do it...??
1) Download Philz Recovery (and which version would I need, being that the rom its on is 4.1.2, and the rom I'll be taking it too is 4.2.2)
- I assume I copy this to SD Card, and flash in Stock Recovery, via going to Download Mode
2) What steps would I follow to clear of current rom? What wipes are safe, or are they all safe with Philz? Normally I do Factory Data wipe, and then System and Cache...
- Are these fine under Philz recovery? As from above two comments... First reply says its safe to do so, second reply says its dangerous... Just really scared about this bug, cant believe Sammy released a device like that...
3) I assume I flash it in Philz CWM, rather than ODIN? Do I need to re-flash a kernel straight after or is the one in P.A.C. (4.2.2) safe from bug?
4) I think the ROM is pre-rooted, but what should I do in case its not? Use ODIN or is there an easier method?
I assume flashing the above rom, via the above method (Philz CWM) will then result in the Yellow Triangle, and bump the count upto 1? So do I just use Triangle Away to clear and reset this, and this is again safe of bricking???
Thanks, Lister
Dude dont panic.
P.A.C. Rom is rooted and does not trigger the emmc bug.
Safe way from stock is as follows:
1.
!DO NOT WIPE ANYTHING ON STOCK!
2.
Get philz kernel for your stock version.
there are packages for flashing with either ODIN which involves connectiong a Computer or with Stock Recovery, which does not involve a computer.
The latter, which is simpler is simply a file on SD you can flash through stock recovery (when off press power+home+volup), it wont even void your warranty.
That provides you with a CWM like recovery from which you can wipe or flash other roms WITHOUT triggering the brickbug.
3.
Get your favourite Rom and flash it through cwm recovery.
BTW: Almost everyone who releases for N7000 puts something in the description that says if the rom is bricksafe.
All newer AOSP/CM based roms should be bricksafe.
Most of the customized Touchwiz Roms are also bricksafe, but watch their thread to be sure.
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EDIT:
IMO if you get the Note 1 for free or cheap its well worth getting. If you plan to buy one rather look for the Note 2 because I feel that it is better supported and has better customisation diversity.
Or if I ask myself what my next phone will be... dunno. Maybe a Nexus or Xperia Z or HTC? I cant seem to find the perfectly blended device. Might go with Jolla Sailfish device if it proves usable.
EDIT 2:
I think someone should sticky this as a simple guide for this. Also the existing stickies really need a cleanup to not confuse people with too much information out of differing times.
Does XDA pay moderators? I'd happily clean stickies and test stuff all day. (I'd also assume a neutral persona/state of mind for such activity.)
Hi Illidan Pornrage,
Thank you so much for going into great detail of the steps I need to follow, I'm starting to feel more comfortable at doing and using this now... So any ROM that says they are Brick free means there is no way to trigger it?? Not that I have ever done this, maybe when I first got my Android back in 2010 just to see what it was like... If I did Factory Data Reset in P.A.C. Rom it wont trigger the eMMC bug? (not that Im likely to ever use it... just making sure).
And with Philz CWM Recovery, I can use the Wipe Data/Factory Reset and then goto other screen and wipe the System partition, and the Cache and Davlik Cache with it all being ok... its 100% safe in Philz Recovery to not brick it??
I am so use to CWM on other devices, I am scared of using the wrong selection on the famous N7000 eMMC brick bug... lol
But with the other steps, thank you so much, such a HUGE HELP!!! and I am sure that will put other new (to N7000) users minds at rest...
-- So useful that ya know the above ROM too, as it makes it even easier/safer for me knowing all is gonna be ok with it...
Cant wait to get ROMing now... Just gotta wait till October... b*gger!! lol
Cheers, Lister
If I did Factory Data Reset in P.A.C. Rom it wont trigger the eMMC bug? Yes as often as you like. I flash cm nightlies, so I wipe very often.
And my window manager somehow always loses focus of the textbox. So I write half posts and have to edit 346243 times. Sorry.
And with Philz CWM Recovery, I can use the Wipe Data/Factory Reset and then goto other screen and wipe the System partition, and the Cache and Davlik Cache with it all being ok... its 100% safe in Philz Recovery to not brick it??
Also yes.
As for 100%. I cant assure you that nothing obscure that only happens 1 in a million times happens. But the menchanism that triggers the great evil bug is removed from philz and the mentioned roms.
Phewwww..... so this eMMC bug is no big deal then....
Only an issue if you stay on stock firmwares really, esp that of ICS??
Well thats made me feel a whole lot safer and more determined to want to get it. Had my hopes set on getting it, and then when I heard about the eMMC bug, thought is this gonna be a wise purchase or will I be spending the best part of £150 (dont know the final price yet) on a very large and heavy paper weight!! lol
Thanks so much for putting my mind at rest, great help...
Hi Illidan Pornrage,
I've only just seen/noticed your updates to my original questions, thanks for the updates.... Re: Why am I going for just the Note 1 rather than the Note 2. Is that someone a know (mate of a mate) will be upgrading her phone (she prolly gonna go back to Apple... boooo) and so hopefully she will be parting with her Note (and cheaply I hope, esp re the bug... a-haaaa)
- and couldnt agree more about tidying up the Stickies, as yes a lot of it is out of date, hence my asking and checking... To which you fully re-assured me of the steps, so think this would be useful to all...
Just to add to this, which Philz Kernel would I need??
Phone: Galaxy Note 1 / N7000
Network: Vodafone UK
Current OS: Android 4.1.2 JB Stock
Planned OS to update Too: P.A.C. 22:30 (Android 4.2.2)
So not sure what Kernel I would need from the below link, and if so, can you explain why I need THIS one? What do I need to look for in a kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
Also, can anyone confirm if they have a UK Note 1 on contract (esp Vodafone) as I am hearing the contract ones are unlocked by default. Its only PAYG that are locked down....
thanks, Lister
Hi Illidan Pornrage / Guys,
As per my above post, any idea what Kernel I need based on the above details...??
Thanks, Lister
hi all
i have a i93-5 with knox its been tripped (0x1) not fussed as it nearly out of warenty
backed up EFS using EFS pro newest
ive rooted and a custom recovery (Philz)
i made a nadroid backup
im confused to what i can do now
my questions are
1.what roms can i flash?
2.what kernals can i flash?
3.what modems can i flash?
4.any thing else i can flash?
5.do i need to set the CSC?
6.i remember reading something about a custom kernal breaking wifi whats that about?
7.any info i might find useful
if these questions have been answered sorry for asking them again ive looked but im just most likely being blind
thanks for any and all help
Anyone?
Man.... you already tripped Knox. What's the worse that can happen?
I've bought a (almost) new i9305 yesterday. In less than 1 hour, i tripped knox, increased the flash count to 6, flashed Philz, flashed CM11.... AND FEEL HAPPY ABOUT IT
If this ****in' thing brakes and i need warranty, i'll find a way to fry the mainboard to the point of making knox pointless
daedric said:
Man.... you already tripped Knox. What's the worse that can happen?
I've bought a (almost) new i9305 yesterday. In less than 1 hour, i tripped knox, increased the flash count to 6, flashed Philz, flashed CM11.... AND FEEL HAPPY ABOUT IT
If this ****in' thing brakes and i need warranty, i'll find a way to fry the mainboard to the point of making knox pointless
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nice one man....did the same...but after 1 month..
flash whatever you like....you will always be able to enter download and flash stock if god knows something happens....
CSC should be the one of your current carrier...
Something else? : start searching for what ROM you like and flash it...(but read instructions carefully).
im just worried about fooking my phone up, cuz the last phone I modded was an ZTE blade. if you've ever modded one there so easy, if you fook them up they was easy to fix. I kind of knew how to sort it out from boot loops and soft bricks did it a few times. I was on a flashing frenzy as it was my first time flashing.
I just want to know what I can flash safly and what I cant
and thank you all for you replys
Unless you go away to crazy and flashing PIT files (change partition layout) or wrong bootloaders (which Knox shouldn't let you), there's almost nothing you can do to perma-brick the device.
Worse comes to worse, you can get into download mode, flash a stock rom via Odin, and start over.
If your knox is tripped, find a way to get root and a custom recovery. Ignore flash count, it's just for show... but you can use triangle away to reset.
After that... Omni... CM... Slim... Carbon... Custom stocks... your choice
daedric said:
Unless you go away to crazy and flashing PIT files (change partition layout) or wrong bootloaders (which Knox shouldn't let you), there's almost nothing you can do to perma-brick the device.
Worse comes to worse, you can get into download mode, flash a stock rom via Odin, and start over.
If your knox is tripped, find a way to get root and a custom recovery. Ignore flash count, it's just for show... but you can use triangle away to reset.
After that... Omni... CM... Slim... Carbon... Custom stocks... your choice
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thanks you have put my mind at rest. i would never mess around with something like the PIT i remember reading you only do that if you realy need to eg really screwed things up and then really you shouldnt
Hey guys!
I'm new to the Nexus phones and also new to unlocked bootloaders, but I will be getting the Verizon Nexus 6 within the next couple of weeks. Very excited. The first thing I'll be doing is unlocking the bootloader and obtaining root.
I am coming from the Verizon Note 3 (of course it's locked). I'm very familiar with rooting, flashing, and custom recoveries on locked devices. So, I guess I was hoping you guys could give me some tips and things to watch out for so I don't hard brick this phone. I've never bricked a phone before and I don't want this to be my first.
A few questions I already have..
Can any Nexus 6 ROM be flashed onto the Verizon Nexus 6?
What are some "NO's" I need to know about to avoid a hard brick?
How different are the custom recoveries (TWERP and Safestrap)?
If I make a backup of the factory image, can I just reflash it at any point?
Thanks for taking your time to read this and help me out.
ForeverZ3RO said:
Hey guys!
I'm new to the Nexus phones and also new to unlocked bootloaders, but I will be getting the Verizon Nexus 6 within the next couple of weeks. Very excited. The first thing I'll be doing is unlocking the bootloader and obtaining root.
I am coming from the Verizon Note 3 (of course it's locked). I'm very familiar with rooting, flashing, and custom recoveries on locked devices. So, I guess I was hoping you guys could give me some tips and things to watch out for so I don't hard brick this phone. I've never bricked a phone before and I don't want this to be my first.
A few questions I already have..
Can any Nexus 6 ROM be flashed onto the Verizon Nexus 6?
What are some "NO's" I need to know about to avoid a hard brick?
How different are the custom recoveries (TWERP and Safestrap)?
If I make a backup of the factory image, can I just reflash it at any point?
Thanks for taking your time to read this and help me out.
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1. yes. all nexus 6 are the same, regardless where you bought it.
2. nos, just educate yourself by reading.
3. its twrp, and its the only custom recovery for a nexus 6. wtf is safestrap?
3. if you make a nandroid backup in your recovery, you can restore it at any time.
ForeverZ3RO said:
Can any Nexus 6 ROM be flashed onto the Verizon Nexus 6? Yes.
What are some "NO's" I need to know about to avoid a hard brick? Don't do any modifications until you thoroughly understand what you are doing.
How different are the custom recoveries (TWERP and Safestrap)? There is only one custom recovery (TWRP) available.
If I make a backup of the factory image, can I just reflash it at any point? If you make a backup of your stock ROM, you can reflash it at any time. And you can also fastboot flash the factory image at any time.
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Replies above in RED.
Thanks for the quick reply and some great answers simms22 & Cam30era!
I definitely do a LOT of reading before trying anything i'm unsure about.
simms22 - Safestrap is a custom recovery for locked devices (like the Verizon Note 3) that allows flashing ROMs onto "ROM-slots", keeping the stock ROM-slot safe. As long as you can boot into Safestrap, you can always load your stock-ROM. You can have up to 4 different custom ROMs along side the stock ROM.
Thanks for the help!
ForeverZ3RO said:
Thanks for the quick reply and some great answers simms22 & Cam30era!
I definitely do a LOT of reading before trying anything i'm unsure about.
simms22 - Safestrap is a custom recovery for locked devices (like the Verizon Note 3) that allows flashing ROMs onto "ROM-slots", keeping the stock ROM-slot safe. As long as you can boot into Safestrap, you can always load your stock-ROM. You can have up to 4 different custom ROMs along side the stock ROM.
Thanks for the help!
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I was a note 4 user on verizon also the latest for the note 3 safestrap was based off twrp. So if u know safestrap you should be good. But what i would recommend is going onto youtube and watching a couple videos on twrp
There a some good ones on there.
Here is one for the s3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ReQbru9s0