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ZuK Z1 In ear quality

Hello
I would like the Z1 buy but can I read nothing about the volume in ears . I'll nähmlich from HTC One M7 and there is the output very loud , could somebodies of the device has test as it is loud about in ears .
Thank you

Mathias27 said:
Hello
I would like the Z1 buy but can I read nothing about the volume in ears . I'll nähmlich from HTC One M7 and there is the output very loud , could somebodies of the device has test as it is loud about in ears .
Thank you
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The quality is really good with good bass and it's also pretty loud.
I'm impressed.

Hi there, i have the Zuk Z1 since yesterday, I came from a Nexus 4 and I can tell the audio chip/DAC of the Z1 is really good for a phone ! Compared to my N⁴, there's a HUUUUGE difference in stereo image, dynamics and the amping is very good (nearly 2× more volume on the Z1). I wasn't waiting for so much
For information, I own a 450€ audio interface (SPL Crimson) for my music production and listening which has very good preamps and converters + an AKG Y55 headphones (and monitoring speakers for music production) so I guess you can trust me when I say that the Z1 has a really good audio chip/DAC for a phone ^^
Cheers

I-Immortal said:
Hi there, i have the Zuk Z1 since yesterday, I came from a Nexus 4 and I can tell the audio chip/DAC of the Z1 is really good for a phone ! Compared to my N⁴, there's a HUUUUGE difference in stereo image, dynamics and the amping is very good (nearly 2× more volume on the Z1). I wasn't waiting for so much
For information, I own a 450€ audio interface (SPL Crimson) for my music production and listening which has very good preamps and converters + an AKG Y55 headphones (and monitoring speakers for music production) so I guess you can trust me when I say that the Z1 has a really good audio chip/DAC for a phone ^^
Cheers
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What kind of music do you produce?
Im a producer as well. Drum n bass, crossbred, hardcore and sometimes dubstep.

@MUG3NHC Nice to meet some others music producers ^^ I would like to hear what you're doing
Personnaly, I often blend Rock elements (Guitars & Bass) with Electronic music. As now I've tried Drum'n'Bass (which I do really like), standard EDM/Dance music, Dubstep, Glitch, Dark Ambient, Progressive Rock, Metal, Funk, etc... ^^ my latest production (work still in progress) is more EDM related (I wanted to try something different, with a more mainstream approach, still it combines dance with glitch and dubstep but also one very discrete rock guitar and bass ^^)
Link here : http://picosong.com/SD8N/

Dirac power sound included according to Dirac (but not mentioned by zuk in specification plus dedicated noise cancelling earphones via usb type c will appear as aftermarket item).
The Chinese launch was accompanied by a music box gift so there seems to be some focus on the audio quality. I can't find any specific details of the DAC though (in the same way that xiaomi and letv advertise HiFi audio and dedicated processor).

I-Immortal said:
@MUG3NHC Nice to meet some others music producers ^^ I would like to hear what you're doing
Personnaly, I often blend Rock elements (Guitars & Bass) with Electronic music. As now I've tried Drum'n'Bass (which I do really like), standard EDM/Dance music, Dubstep, Glitch, Dark Ambient, Progressive Rock, Metal, Funk, etc... ^^ my latest production (work still in progress) is more EDM related (I wanted to try something different, with a more mainstream approach, still it combines dance with glitch and dubstep but also one very discrete rock guitar and bass ^^)
Link here : http://picosong.com/SD8N/
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To be honest, your tune is a little bit too dancy for me.
Matter of taste tho.
I've got a lot of tunes on my pc, but a lot of them aren't mixed, so i only have 3 on my soundcloud atm:
https://m.soundcloud.com/pur3h8

@MUG3NHC i do really like your music called Night Rain, great ambience
I told you this last song I shared was more dancy/mainstream than what I usually do ^^ Here's an old production of mine which is a more ambient track (on my YouTube channel) : http://youtu.be/gUd10n92jL8

USB type C headphones

Hi All,
Did anyone use USB type C headphone with the 5T? I have just bought a pair of xiaomi ANC headphones and is really disappointed with the sound quality.
Are there any ways to improve the sound quality you might be aware of?
Thanks!

olzhas06 said:
Hi All,
Did anyone use USB type C headphone with the 5T? I have just bought a pair of xiaomi ANC headphones and is really disappointed with the sound quality.
Are there any ways to improve the sound quality you might be aware of?
Thanks!
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Poweramp + Arise. Makes my $20 KZs sound like a subwoofer.

ALPHAWolf96 said:
Poweramp + Arise. Makes my $20 KZs sound like a subwoofer.
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what is arise? I listen to Spotify, so poweramp is not an option l.

olzhas06 said:
what is arise? I listen to Spotify, so poweramp is not an option l.
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I use Spotify all the time also but to experience to true potential of your headphones, you must try Poweramp once ( you might get hooked as well) just for the sake of its unmatched Eq presets.
As for the arise, you can look up for the guides to install Viper4Android on XDA ( will take a simple search). You'll be needing root access (Magisk has some v4a modules as well) though.
Caution: stepping into the world of v4a is big step. No coming back from there.?

ALPHAWolf96 said:
I use Spotify all the time also but to experience to true potential of your headphones, you must try Poweramp once ( you might get hooked as well) just for the sake of its unmatched Eq presets.
As for the arise, you can look up for the guides to install Viper4Android on XDA ( will take a simple search). You'll be needing root access (Magisk has some v4a modules as well) though.
Caution: stepping into the world of v4a is big step. No coming back from there.?
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Just wondering what Poweramp and Arise does to improve the SQ of the above mentioned IEM. I own a Xiaomi Pro HD and found the bass and vocals to be lacking compared to Apple Earpods.

ejsoliveros said:
Just wondering what Poweramp and Arise does to improve the SQ of the above mentioned IEM. I own a Xiaomi Pro HD and found the bass and vocals to be lacking compared to Apple Earpods.
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If you can experiment enough with Poweramp's (alpha build) Eq presets ( I prefer "speaker ( loud) with bass and treble variable according to the song I'm listening to), you can pretty much get satisfied with any earphones above $10 price tag. The cheapest iem I can find in my drawer from a whole bunch of earbuds is the KZ-ate which can easily outperform this Overpriced AKG earbuds.
Coming to the V4A, it takes some time to get it working on your smartphone if you're dealing with it for the first time but if you can get it running, you can expect a SQ bump of at least 5x of Poweramp's eq.
Judging by the quality of one of my own xiaomi's basic earbuds, I hope the pro HD ones won't be really bad.

Is it safe to assume USB C headphones will work on the OP5T regardless of OS/ROM? I don't want to purchase a pair only to find out they won't work with OmniROM.

ALPHAWolf96 said:
Caution: stepping into the world of v4a is big step. No coming back from there.
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Truer words have never been spoken. Once I experienced the awesomeness that is V4A I'll never again purchase a phone that cannot be rooted. I only wish I would have found out about it sooner:laugh:
If you are running magisk it takes no time at all to get it processing for YouTube, Pandora, etc., just install the module and reboot. If you are use Poweramp be sure to go-to settings>audio>advanced tweaks and uncheck direct volume control to get viper processing.

Hi-Res Audio output

Does Nokia 7 Plus support Hi-Res Audio output?

Use poweramp alpha version for hi res output.

LDAC support already shown for the sony wi-h700 on android p dev beta

I am using poweramp alpha version 705 and the output via jack is 24bit 384Khz.
Auidio quality is great too and is improved after 2 updates..

vishuxperia said:
I am using poweramp alpha version 705 and the output via jack is 24bit 384Khz.
Auidio quality is great too and is improved after 2 updates..
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I have now bought a N7+ myself and I can comment more thoroughly on this.
I was intrigued by the above comment as to my knowledge, sample rates beyond 192khz are reserved for the flagship snapdragon 835 and 845 processors.
I went into a shop and downloaded some 352.8khz samples for 2l.no and to my surprise, not only did they work in google play music, but it sounded great.
Using USB Audio Player plus, I can see that the 352.8khz audio is being downsampled to 192khz for playback by android, I have no idea how the downsampling is done and I would rather it have been downsampled to an exact multiple, but nonetheless at those sample rates, it still sounds great. If you're an audiophille, you'll have an external dac anyway, it's just convenient to be able to play it back.
Dsd dsf files also playback in google play music, and in usb audio player pro, when output to the Android system, they are being output as 24bit 176.4khz.
I accept this as this content is extremely rare, and flagship grade, you're not going to get everything in a midrange phone.
I'll post screenshots and elaborate more on this later.
What I will say is that the headphone output and amp on the N7+ is solid and very decent, it's not as good as the LG Quad Dac on the g7/v30 but it more than does the job for listening to music even on some over ear headphones. It just makes the removal of the headphone jack on many flagship and Apple phones infuriating when you can get hi res audio this easily!

Leonccyiu said:
I have now bought a N7+ myself and I can comment more thoroughly on this.
I was intrigued by the above comment as to my knowledge, sample rates beyond 192khz are reserved for the flagship snapdragon 835 and 845 processors.
I went into a shop and downloaded some 352.8khz samples for 2l.no and to my surprise, not only did they work in google play music, but it sounded great.
Using USB Audio Player plus, I can see that the 352.8khz audio is being downsampled to 192khz for playback by android, I have no idea how the downsampling is done and I would rather it have been downsampled to an exact multiple, but nonetheless at those sample rates, it still sounds great. If you're an audiophille, you'll have an external dac anyway, it's just convenient to be able to play it back.
Dsd dsf files also playback in google play music, and in usb audio player pro, when output to the Android system, they are being output as 24bit 176.4khz.
I accept this as this content is extremely rare, and flagship grade, you're not going to get everything in a midrange phone.
I'll post screenshots and elaborate more on this later.
What I will say is that the headphone output and amp on the N7+ is solid and very decent, it's not as good as the LG Quad Dac on the g7/v30 but it more than does the job for listening to music even on some over ear headphones. It just makes the removal of the headphone jack on many flagship and Apple phones infuriating when you can get hi res audio this easily!
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I totally agree with you, The headphone output is so much better in N7+ compared to similar priced devices in market.
I also own an OP2, OP3, OP3t and LgV20 and among all of these LG is on top followed by N7+ which is saying something about this device.

Viper4Android Emui 9

Hello! There's a way to install v4a on emui 9? I have root with magisk.

I am concerned myself, please help us, anyone

cortex69 said:
I am concerned myself, please help us, anyone
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I think we need an update to support 64 bit driver...

AntoRei said:
I think we need an update to support 64 bit driver...
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I just got this phone, if there's no audio route I could go rooting device before tehn I am retruning back to mate 9 !
good luck here

Mate 10 ALP-L29 on EMUI 9's audio (from headphone jack) is one of the cleanest sounding outputs I've heard using my triple driver hybrid IEMs.
Sad that NO ONE is talking about it!

ej8989 said:
Mate 10 ALP-L29 on EMUI 9's audio (from headphone jack) is one of the cleanest sounding outputs I've heard using my triple driver hybrid IEMs.
Sad that NO ONE is talking about it!
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Absolutely right. I've used this device for a Year now and I really don't see a reason for some audio enhancement software, since the sound is just great anyhow I play it. I've listened my favorite tracks thru wired and bluetooth headsets, streamed over wifi and bluetooth dongles, and couldn't find anything less satisfying than my other phones. I have been using V4A and Dolby Atmos earlier on my Note, but I must say I really don't miss it at all.
Not trying to criticize, just posting my opinion.

rath76 said:
Absolutely right. I've used this device for a Year now and I really don't see a reason for some audio enhancement software, since the sound is just great anyhow I play it. I've listened my favorite tracks thru wired and bluetooth headsets, streamed over wifi and bluetooth dongles, and couldn't find anything less satisfying than my other phones. I have been using V4A and Dolby Atmos earlier on my Note, but I must say I really don't miss it at all.
Not trying to criticize, just posting my opinion.
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Agree on audio through wired headphones!
However, in the car, i need a little bit of control with EQ and Soundstage / Reverb, and V4A provides those options. ATM, I'm using RE Equalizer and if only it's stable (enable / disable the switch to make it work), I don't feel the need for V4A

My. 6p was much louder with viper than mate 10 pro on aux. Can't agree it could be louder and more bass sound.

Hi-Fi DAC compatibility with custom roms?

Has anyone tried to check if Hi-Fi works in any of the custom ROMs released?
It is one of the deciding factors for me to buy this phone. Even if it's possible later on to include in custom ROMs, that'll be awesome.

May I ask does hifi works in another music player like poweramp..??

penglengpung said:
May I ask does hifi works in another music player like poweramp..??
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I tried it out in a friend's k20 pro [untouched MIUI Rom].
There is a difference while enabling hi-fi mode in system settings and also in Poweramp settings. Enabling both will make a noticeable difference. Won't get loud as LG v30 but the output seems to me is clear and much better than average.

Does anyone know if it works yet?

I have this phone and audio of this phone if just okayish.. my redmi note 3 was wayyyy superior than this phone's audio..

soni.durgesh0094 said:
I have this phone and audio of this phone if just okayish.. my redmi note 3 was wayyyy superior than this phone's audio..
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Maybe check your settings? Cause audio output is far better than Redmi note 3's audio output, (but still behind LG v20).

Va2c said:
Maybe check your settings? Cause audio output is far better than Redmi note 3's audio output, (but still behind LG v20).
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Can u please send screenshot of audio setting you are using and which earphones u r using ?? I am using budget earphones like sony ex155ap, xb450ap, audio technica ath clr100 etc and with all of them budget earphones i find that audio of redmi note 3 is wayy superior. Both in speaker and 3.5mm jack.. audio of RN3 has crisp bass vocals and tribal and background instruments details.

soni.durgesh0094 said:
Can u please send screenshot of audio setting you are using and which earphones u r using ?? I am using budget earphones like sony ex155ap, xb450ap, audio technica ath clr100 etc and with all of them budget earphones i find that audio of redmi note 3 is wayy superior. Both in speaker and 3.5mm jack.. audio of RN3 has crisp bass vocals and tribal and background instruments details.
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First of all, hope you have some quality audio files with you because no amount of good hardware can compensate for that. Check Headphones and Audio effects section in settings if hi-fi audio is enabled.
I use Poweramp as my music player. I'll be attaching screenshots audio related settings of the app (also select hi-res audio for aux input).

Va2c said:
First of all, hope you have some quality audio files with you because no amount of good hardware can compensate for that. Check Headphones and Audio effects section in settings if hi-fi audio is enabled.
I use Poweramp as my music player. I'll be attaching screenshots audio related settings of the app (also select hi-res audio for aux input).
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Dear i use mp3 files as i have more than 2200 songs in my phone so i cant download that much of FLAC files as mp3 is commonly used files. Moreover i have tried lgv20, iphone 6, poco f1, redmi note 3, 4, 5pro, MI A1 etc and with budget earphones and mp3 files (even retro songs of 1960s 1970s years) RN3 plays them soooooo good even with stock music players.. if you haven't tried yet please try.. i enable mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile as mi earbuds profile gives background instruments details of songs mp3 and YouTube also
And on which ROM u r on k20 pro as indian global rom has bug of broken equaliser on Google play music (please confirm if you too have)
Also on mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile and EQ in such a way that bass bars at 20% height, vocals at 30% height and tribal bars at 40% height.. my RN3, 4 and all other Xiaomi phones as i stated above give sooo loud and crisp audio with those budget earphones (sony ex155ap, xb450ap etc) that u can hardly listen it on max volume but at those same setting and files even at max volume k20 pro sounds too low.. weak in bass vocals and tribal in all department...
Please practically try Redmi note 3 if you can..
Rn3 and k20 pro both have hifi audio but rn3 do not have expressly hifi audio option as there is in k20 pro does this mean unlike rn3, k20 pro compulsory require flac or heavy files and costly earphone so enjoy audio which anyhow be enjoyed with rn3 with mp3 and budget earphones...
I am not happy with audio of k20 pro..
I can go with costly earphone but replacing and finding flac files is not possible in india for 2200 songs.
Please guide

I've used RN3 in the past. Not much to write home about in the audio front . You'll need something better than the earphones you currently own. But if your satisfied with the output, no need to buy new ones.
What I suggest is that you tinker around with the EQ as that will give you sound you desire.

soni.durgesh0094 said:
Dear i use mp3 files as i have more than 2200 songs in my phone so i cant download that much of FLAC files as mp3 is commonly used files. Moreover i have tried lgv20, iphone 6, poco f1, redmi note 3, 4, 5pro, MI A1 etc and with budget earphones and mp3 files (even retro songs of 1960s 1970s years) RN3 plays them soooooo good even with stock music players.. if you haven't tried yet please try.. i enable mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile as mi earbuds profile gives background instruments details of songs mp3 and YouTube also
And on which ROM u r on k20 pro as indian global rom has bug of broken equaliser on Google play music (please confirm if you too have)
Also on mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile and EQ in such a way that bass bars at 20% height, vocals at 30% height and tribal bars at 40% height.. my RN3, 4 and all other Xiaomi phones as i stated above give sooo loud and crisp audio with those budget earphones (sony ex155ap, xb450ap etc) that u can hardly listen it on max volume but at those same setting and files even at max volume k20 pro sounds too low.. weak in bass vocals and tribal in all department...
Please practically try Redmi note 3 if you can..
Rn3 and k20 pro both have hifi audio but rn3 do not have expressly hifi audio option as there is in k20 pro does this mean unlike rn3, k20 pro compulsory require flac or heavy files and costly earphone so enjoy audio which anyhow be enjoyed with rn3 with mp3 and budget earphones...
I am not happy with audio of k20 pro..
I can go with costly earphone but replacing and finding flac files is not possible in india for 2200 songs.
Please guide
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well i use House of Marley Smile Jamaica Earphones and i find the Audio output to be Excellent via headphone jack. I Listen a lots of indian music via Gaana app.
PS i already have Redmi Note 4 and i find this device gives better output not sure abot RN3 though.
If you really an Audio Freak then try out ViperFX it will give superior output even with Budget Earphones

pritish sahoo said:
well i use House of Marley Smile Jamaica Earphones and i find the Audio output to be Excellent via headphone jack. I Listen a lots of indian music via Gaana app.
PS i already have Redmi Note 4 and i find this device gives better output not sure abot RN3 though.
If you really an Audio Freak then try out ViperFX it will give superior output even with Budget Earphones
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Yes dear .. i too have used rn4 and rn3 also but rn3 audio is on different level.. to each of my frnd i make comparisons to for both phone's audio.. everyone says that rn3 sounds better and loud.. i have sent many feedbacks and mails also to Mi.. Lets see how quick they fix it

It is great, I have some reasonably good KZ IEM and they just sound great with hi-fi mode, was surprised by the details and quality, at last listening to tracks in Tidal with hi-fi/master subscription was very noticeable, I plan to test some amps, there is some reviews talking about THD on high volumes, but in term simply of volume, honestly the phone output is strong, I cannot endure 3 seconds with 100% volume, but maybe it is just KZ, they are somewhat easy to manage.

Va2c said:
Has anyone tried to check if Hi-Fi works in any of the custom ROMs released?
It is one of the deciding factors for me to buy this phone. Even if it's possible later on to include in custom ROMs, that'll be awesome.
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The hifi DAC on the K20 Pro doesn't make a lot of difference.
I have a Pocophone and the both sound exactly the same.

RebornCheiko said:
The hifi DAC on the K20 Pro doesn't make a lot of difference.
I have a Pocophone and the both sound exactly the same.
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Put on a good pair or headphones or IEMs (not $10-$20 bassy earphones) and use Tidal or Deezer and you will see the difference night and day. I have used Poco F1 as well and the audio output through the 3.5mm jack is way better on K20 pro due to the superior DAC used on it.

soni.durgesh0094 said:
Dear i use mp3 files as i have more than 2200 songs in my phone so i cant download that much of FLAC files as mp3 is commonly used files. Moreover i have tried lgv20, iphone 6, poco f1, redmi note 3, 4, 5pro, MI A1 etc and with budget earphones and mp3 files (even retro songs of 1960s 1970s years) RN3 plays them soooooo good even with stock music players.. if you haven't tried yet please try.. i enable mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile as mi earbuds profile gives background instruments details of songs mp3 and YouTube also
And on which ROM u r on k20 pro as indian global rom has bug of broken equaliser on Google play music (please confirm if you too have)
Also on mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile and EQ in such a way that bass bars at 20% height, vocals at 30% height and tribal bars at 40% height.. my RN3, 4 and all other Xiaomi phones as i stated above give sooo loud and crisp audio with those budget earphones (sony ex155ap, xb450ap etc) that u can hardly listen it on max volume but at those same setting and files even at max volume k20 pro sounds too low.. weak in bass vocals and tribal in all department...
Please practically try Redmi note 3 if you can..
Rn3 and k20 pro both have hifi audio but rn3 do not have expressly hifi audio option as there is in k20 pro does this mean unlike rn3, k20 pro compulsory require flac or heavy files and costly earphone so enjoy audio which anyhow be enjoyed with rn3 with mp3 and budget earphones...
I am not happy with audio of k20 pro..
I can go with costly earphone but replacing and finding flac files is not possible in india for 2200 songs.
Please guide
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You realise MP3 audios are for casual listening, not for audiophiles. You will never be able to understand the difference when using mp3 files and cheap earphones. Even if you buy an external DAC, you would still find it similar to your RN3 which uses regular/normal DAC.

Va2c said:
Has anyone tried to check if Hi-Fi works in any of the custom ROMs released?
It is one of the deciding factors for me to buy this phone. Even if it's possible later on to include in custom ROMs, that'll be awesome.
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HIFI DAC is a hardware chip and has nothing to do with software.