Hey there,
I've had my 3T ever since it was released, and compared to my previous phone, Samsung S6, I'm definitely getting a better battery life, but it's been hit or miss for me the last month or so, and I'm wondering how I can try and increase the battery life and whether rooting my phone would help.
I've literally never rooted a phone before, so I don't know if this is advisable for someone so new to all this - is it easy to do so?
I've included a few screenshots of my battery life currently, I used to get around 7 hours SOT total, now I'd say I get around 5-6 depending on what I do? I don't constantly have wifi on, I'm not using greenify or any other battery saving apps, I have doze on in the developer settings but not aggressive dose.
I've seen others with 10 hours SOT so I know this phone is certainly capable of it, and I know I don't have the most terrible battery life but the drain is fairly noticeable imo when it's idle.
Would it be worthwhile to factory reset the phone first and see if it improves anything first?
While rooting itself wouldn't increase battery life, you can do some stuff like, flash a different kernel such as Franco kernel, that has improved my battery life immensely. Or you can install a rom which could help also.
And yes rooting your phone is very simple just follow the guides step by step. That's my battery life at 78%
sakumaxp said:
While rooting itself wouldn't increase battery life, you can do some stuff like, flash a different kernel such as Franco kernel, that has improved my battery life immensely. Or you can install a rom which could help also.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would you say it's easy to do for someone who's not done this kind of thing before?
microserfs said:
Would you say it's easy to do for someone who's not done this kind of thing before?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most definitely, I know it can be nerve-racking at first but just watch and read the tutorials a few times and understand the steps, then give it a try. Even if something does go wrong, we are all here to help you, it legit will only take you 15 mins tops to root your phone
---------- Post added at 04:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------
I think that was the video I followed
The battery life won't be affected significantly but u can use apps like greenify or install custom kernel like the Franco kernel to improve the battery life. They do really work
sakumaxp said:
Most definitely, I know it can be nerve-racking at first but just watch and read the tutorials a few times and understand the steps, then give it a try. Even if something does go wrong, we are all here to help you, it legit will only take you 15 mins tops to root your phone
---------- Post added at 04:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------
I think that was the video I followed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you! I have a Macbook so I don't know if the process is significantly different as I'm not used to all the terminal commands and using adb and stuff, but I'll definitely check out the video Am a bit cautious about doing it rn as I'm away for a few weeks haha, so I don't know whether I should wait until I get back but having a better battery life abroad would really be useful!
9891ishu said:
The battery life won't be affected significantly but u can use apps like greenify or install custom kernel like the Franco kernel to improve the battery life. They do really work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's the main reason I was thinking of doing so, mainly for the apps like Greenify and to check out the wakelocks and stuff in more detail. Thanks, good to know it might actually help increase the battery life to do so
microserfs said:
Hey there,
I've had my 3T ever since it was released, and compared to my previous phone, Samsung S6, I'm definitely getting a better battery life, but it's been hit or miss for me the last month or so, and I'm wondering how I can try and increase the battery life and whether rooting my phone would help.
I've literally never rooted a phone before, so I don't know if this is advisable for someone so new to all this - is it easy to do so?
I've included a few screenshots of my battery life currently, I used to get around 7 hours SOT total, now I'd say I get around 5-6 depending on what I do? I don't constantly have wifi on, I'm not using greenify or any other battery saving apps, I have doze on in the developer settings but not aggressive dose.
I've seen others with 10 hours SOT so I know this phone is certainly capable of it, and I know I don't have the most terrible battery life but the drain is fairly noticeable imo when it's idle.
Would it be worthwhile to factory reset the phone first and see if it improves anything first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would you say battery was better on Marshmallow or Nougat? Maybe try downgrading and see if battery life improves again.
954wrecker said:
Would you say battery was better on Marshmallow or Nougat? Maybe try downgrading and see if battery life improves again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
microserfs said:
I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe its just our batteries degrading. I used to get 12-14 and now I only get 10-12. Same apps and settings and usage.
microserfs said:
I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i fixed this by installing app ops and disabling keep phone awake, location, body sensors, and wake device permissions from google play services. Installing greenify and putting all my apps in there that i dont rely on notifications for. Setting up a tasker profile to greenify apps whenever my display is turned off (greenify doesn't do this straight away and some apps take forever). Installing naptime and turning on aggressive doze (for the apps that aren't greenified, works better than nougat's built in i think it doesn't kick in for 30 minutes on it's own).
I get 1% drain per 6-8 hours this way. The app ops part was the final step i took because i noticed 600 alarms from google play services overnight and now i dont get more than 30 so obviously thats completely ridiculous.
EuEra said:
i fixed this by installing app ops and disabling keep phone awake, location, body sensors, and wake device permissions from google play services. Installing greenify and putting all my apps in there that i dont rely on notifications for. Setting up a tasker profile to greenify apps whenever my display is turned off (greenify doesn't do this straight away and some apps take forever). Installing naptime and turning on aggressive doze (for the apps that aren't greenified, works better than nougat's built in i think it doesn't kick in for 30 minutes on it's own).
I get 1% drain per 6-8 hours this way. The app ops part was the final step i took because i noticed 600 alarms from google play services overnight and now i dont get more than 30 so obviously thats completely ridiculous.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you rooted? I'm wondering how much of this I can do without rooting but I know apps like Greenify work better with root and Naptime requires root to work. I figured Greenify and Doze were doing similar things but I guess Greenify works differently? I'll probably find that rooting will get me better battery life in general if I can make use of all these apps by doing so. I don't know how to check wakelocks without rooting (don't think there's a way) but GSam tells me the Android System "Number of Times Waking Device" is 184. idk if this really says much tho.
microserfs said:
Are you rooted? I'm wondering how much of this I can do without rooting but I know apps like Greenify work better with root and Naptime requires root to work. I figured Greenify and Doze were doing similar things but I guess Greenify works differently? I'll probably find that rooting will get me better battery life in general if I can make use of all these apps by doing so. I don't know how to check wakelocks without rooting (don't think there's a way) but GSam tells me the Android System "Number of Times Waking Device" is 184. idk if this really says much tho.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't a reason not to root any more, with magisk you get root and can still use things like android pay or banking apps etc.
Related
Hi everyone. My battery life is really sucks. I bought my item two days ago. It is new. And I upgrade my version and baseband , kernel and build version like below :
N70000XXLB2
2.6.35.7-N7000XXLC1-CL1003701 [email protected]#2
GINGERBREAD.XXLC1
I think that this version xxlc1 is last version but I wonder how is my kernel version ?
Battery life is very bad.
Moreover Charging lasts so long. 3 -4 hours sometimes.
PLEASE Help me! please
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
lrcquest said:
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
when i see some kind of usage experiences, I am so jealous. How they use this much ? HOW. I only use wifi and radio.
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
letters_to_cleo said:
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
to get battery life you either
a) dont use your phone or
b) get information to use your phone more wisely
So..
a) download a battery monitor.. there are a bunch recommended..
b) read the other 200 threads on battery life and dont start another one. Each and every question has been asked and answered ad nauseum
while you are figuring out root, and task killers, here are a few easy tips to help..particularly when you are putting the phone down for a while
apps>task manager>active apps> CLOSE ALL
apps>task manager> RAM> CLEAR MEMORY
settings>applications>running services> review and shut down apps/games that may be running in background (and that are not critical)
Again.... RESEARCH the forum.. the answers are already here. and you should read and post in existing threads
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could also have a defective battery.
On my iPhone 4, my first of 4 that were faulty, battery life depleted in less than 12 hours of STANDBY only on wifi, nothing syncing. Only being on. Battery life was so bad.
It's not uncommon to get a dud battery sometimes.
Try doing a complete restore, stock EVERYTHING, don't push anything (except email, cal, and contacts, you know, the basics) and see if you're having the same results. If on a fresh, stock, install you're having the same issues, then you've got a defective unit and/or battery.
Hope I've helped.
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are quite decent custom roms for the Note. I have tried many gingerbread versions (Chracks, rocketrom, cassies etc) currently on chrack's v18 small (LC1) with speedmod latest kernel.
I have not faced performance issues on this. But each user is different so u r the boss.
Best give the custom kernels a try for now. If u find the battery life better then ur problem is solved. The advantage of custom rom is that so much useless bloatware in the stock is removed for better space mgt & performance.
have provided some tips in the following link, feel free to go thru.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600691
eediz said:
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dude, you are ridiculing some of the well known devs who have made custom ROMS for all to appreciate and use. IF there was and is a problem on a particular custom ROM, it is or might be cause indirectly on the user itself, on what apps he/she insatalled on his phone. Surely you cannot generalize all custom ROMS have problems do you? if all have problems, the devs have some new revisions to fix those bugs and in no time at all your Note would be in tip-top shape again.
If as what you say, Custom Roms have problems.... then why the heck most people I know have used them and have big wide grin on their face to show off what they have and even posting a copy of their latest ROM pictures here... not to mentioned in YouTube as well.
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
go read the threads on battery performance.. loading a new ROM will not fix problems if you do not know what you are doing.
eediz said:
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
first quote :laugh:
Hi there.
I had the same issues but only after the update done on ICS.
I have over 140 different application and nearly all of them have been purchased.
What happens is that, when you are not using your phone it should go to "deep sleep". This allows your phone not to run any application and merely use any battery. Your problem probably come from somewhere in your setting an automatic update. That drains a lot....
I downloaded different application hoping that it would work out such as Juice Defender, watch dog and many others. After lots of research, I found out that it is not good for your phone to have an auto killer app or even an application that modifies the functions of other applications.
So I downloaded battery spy and cpu spy on "google play" and followed the instructions.
I needed a deeper analytic application "Kernel" and this was THE application that allowed my phone to go from 6-8 hour to 28 hours.
"Better battery stats", it's not free but was really worth the spending.
Google play chronological download
1) watch dog
2) battery spy
3) cpu spy
4) better battery stats
Good luck
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
eediz said:
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you like stock samsung looks try CleaNote 3.10 , very good n battery life , I get around one day backup with heavy usage and 2 days plus with moderate usage .
If like pure google , then try cm9 , very stable and quite good on battery back up .
And if you dont use 3g or 3.5 g or any such networks then select GSM only or use 2g networks only ( Settings -> under wireless and connectivity , More -> Mobile Networks )
Also keep your display brightness to minimum , control the brightness manually instead of auto brightness .
Turn off auto sync ( big advantage over battery ) .
Scan for running apps and cached apps and force stop the ones which you dont use .
Use titanium back up and freeze some of the bloatwares ( stock samsung apps ) or uninstall them , like readers hub , mydiary , they are **** .
And dont use task killers , they drain your battery . they may clear rom but some apps restart automatically and that needs more juice than running those apps . Hope all these suggestions help . From my experience with this phone
Tonio78370 said:
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
ryandigweed said:
I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
hchxoom said:
You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that, i will install it. By the way i got the "battery widget" installed, which has gained popularity on the market.
Also im only using 9% of brightness of my phone.
I'm using a rooted stock 4.0.3 and I'm finding battery life its pretty good - better than unrooted GB was in fact. Simply freezing bloatware via titanium and limiting sync on some (not all) apps and services makes a gigantic difference. Design your phone around your own needs and you'll end up with an amazing device that you'll fall in love with all over again.
Sent from my gnote as always
So the poor battery life on my Note 4 might have more to do with screen brightness than I would have expected. Unfortunately, most people posting their SOT's aren't doing it in a very scientific way, so it's hard to know what we should expect from these devices.
Here are my battery test results using PCMark for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.futuremark.pcmark.android.benchmark
In one test, I put the screen brightness to 100% and the results were pretty dismal. In the second test, I ran it at 50% brightness, which is brighter than the Note 2 at full and the results were much better.
I use Auto brightness during the day, which might explain my poor battery life, but I'd love to know what others score on PCMark are (it does run for 5+ hours!). I do keep my background BLACK, as well as using black themes on everything I can - for apps that only have white backgrounds, I use AutomateIt to invert the colors automatically. I would have thought these black backgrounds would do more, but it really comes down to brightness it seems.
I'm using an Exynos N910U model and left wifi connected while doing this test - 3 google accounts are synced on my device.
EP2008 said:
So the poor battery life on my Note 4 might have more to do with screen brightness than I would have expected. Unfortunately, most people posting their SOT's aren't doing it in a very scientific way, so it's hard to know what we should expect from these devices.
Here are my battery test results using PCMark for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.futuremark.pcmark.android.benchmark
In one test, I put the screen brightness to 100% and the results were pretty dismal. In the second test, I ran it at 50% brightness, which is brighter than the Note 2 at full and the results were much better.
I use Auto brightness during the day, which might explain my poor battery life, but I'd love to know what others score on PCMark are (it does run for 5+ hours!). I do keep my background BLACK, as well as using black themes on everything I can - for apps that only have white backgrounds, I use AutomateIt to invert the colors automatically. I would have thought these black backgrounds would do more, but it really comes down to brightness it seems.
I'm using an Exynos N910U model and left wifi connected while doing this test - 3 google accounts are synced on my device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for tests im using my exynos version on auto brightness and generally get 6 hours SOT. i saw on alot of people s stats and people who has problems generally has google play services on their battery usage list and it definetly shouldnt be at there... its probably about location reports to google every1 should disable it from location settings it doesnt break anything.
tmac31 said:
thanks for tests im using my exynos version on auto brightness and generally get 6 hours SOT. i saw on alot of people s stats and people who has problems generally has google play services on their battery usage list and it definetly shouldnt be at there... its probably about location reports to google every1 should disable it from location settings it doesnt break anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, location can be an issue, but I think that impacts standby time more than SOT. Currently I've done the following to help with location-related issues:
- used lion tamer (soon to be called amplify) to slow down NLP wakelocks.
- set my location settings to powersave mode
- setup AutomateIt to turn on GPS when I'm in Google Maps (I'm usually plugged into the car outlet, so battery isn't a concern while navigating.
- Greenify stuff like Google search, Maps and several others.
I like and use Location Reporting, so disabling it outright isn't an option. My standby usage is very good at usually less than 1% an hour and my wakelocks keep my device awake usually less than 6%, but I'm still working to lower that number.
EP2008 said:
Yes, location can be an issue, but I think that impacts standby time more than SOT. Currently I've done the following to help with location-related issues:
- used lion tamer (soon to be called amplify) to slow down NLP wakelocks.
- set my location settings to powersave mode
- setup AutomateIt to turn on GPS when I'm in Google Maps (I'm usually plugged into the car outlet, so battery isn't a concern while navigating.
- Greenify stuff like Google search, Maps and several others.
I like and use Location Reporting, so disabling it outright isn't an option. My standby usage is very good at usually less than 1% an hour and my wakelocks keep my device awake usually less than 6%, but I'm still working to lower that number.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
last night with 10 hours sleep time. with wifi connected sync was activated for 3 mails. i just lost 2% and i didnt do anything special like you did. no greenify no root nothing i couldnt even install wakelock detector cuz its broken on kitkat without root.
. i just disabled some useless stuff like samsung store etc.. everything else is working. and on my car i generally listen music over bluetooth
Lux could help
tmac31 said:
last night with 10 hours sleep time. with wifi connected sync was activated for 3 mails. i just lost 2% and i didnt do anything special like you did. no greenify no root nothing i couldnt even install wakelock detector cuz its broken on kitkat without root.
. i just disabled some useless stuff like samsung store etc.. everything else is working. and on my car i generally listen music over bluetooth
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Before I started tweaking, I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR! Disabling stuff without root only got me so far, then the xposed tweaks and Titanium Backup had to be used.
EP2008 said:
Before I started tweaking, I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR! Disabling stuff without root only got me so far, then the xposed tweaks and Titanium Backup had to be used.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
like i said i dont know whats wrong for some people its probably something you installed(skype maybe) or mostly about location reporting. even last night i left my phone at 90% when i get it this morning after like 10 hours it was on 88% like i said earlier wifi was connected no power saving etc just normal idle time nothing special.
tmac31 said:
like i said i dont know whats wrong for some people its probably something you installed(skype maybe) or mostly about location reporting. even last night i left my phone at 90% when i get it this morning after like 10 hours it was on 88% like i said earlier wifi was connected no power saving etc just normal idle time nothing special.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was testing without any apps installed (just whatever I used to record battery consumption) and it was crazy high. Then I started adding accounts and apps, tweaking and I got my standby time to be much lower, but SOT leaves much to be desired. I'm going to try using the manual brightness and see if there are any differences - I often find auto brightness to be too bright or too dim! No "sweet spot" found! LOL
Greeny can also help but may need root
I'd suggest changing the settings for your Battery Monitor Widget app. AFAICS it polls every 10 minutes so a wakelock occurs every ten minutes to save the data. Use something like an hour and see what happens. Also would highly recommend BetterBatteryStats, a free version is available here for members.
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
bnbasarir said:
I'd suggest changing the settings for your Battery Monitor Widget app. AFAICS it polls every 10 minutes so a wakelock occurs every ten minutes to save the data. Use something like an hour and see what happens. Also would highly recommend BetterBatteryStats, a free version is available here for members.
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll try that, although that might only improve wakelocks, not screen on time.
BBS never worked right for me. Always complaining that it couldn't retrieve the stats or falling back on something else.
Sent from my SM-N910U
I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wait, with the screen off? Then you have something horribly wrong with your device. Mine did a few % over a night. With nothing done to the phone to conserve battery at all. Snapdragon, though. With the update.
I loose only 2% for 7h of standby last night.
We are seeing a trend I think, I noticed that it's mainly us 910U users or exnyos users complaining about battery life. So it must be something in the 910U rom?
I've got a 910F and I get 6 hours screen on time maximum :/
Slai said:
Wait, with the screen off? Then you have something horribly wrong with your device. Mine did a few % over a night. With nothing done to the phone to conserve battery at all. Snapdragon, though. With the update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't happen now that I've rooted and applied my standard tweaks, but I tried a factory reset to see if I could correct the high standby drain and was not successful without these tweaks.
Sent from my SM-N910U
I have 910f and i got same issues with my batt.
i've tried clean system, root, custom rom. Battery is always draining higher than some people.
As i said in other thread: some people have an issue, some have great battery life. And nobody knows why
Maybe it's the guys who keep it stock and don't root, custom rom and "tweak" that get the good battery life.
Delete it pls.
Slai said:
Maybe it's the guys who keep it stock and don't root, custom rom and "tweak" that get the good battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm on stock, but without tweaks I can't even go the day on standby. [emoji31]
Sent from my SM-N910U
Please reply with your own real experiences.
Q. Does rooted Greenify really improve battery life?
I use it, but I can't say it makes a huge difference.
Q. Does Package Disabler Pro really improve battery life?
I use it, but my co-worker doesn't, and his Note 5 lasts basically as long as mine.
Experiment:
Maybe what would be the most useful is using Tasker to really deal with battery life. I'm thinking about shutting off wifi and data when not needed, etc.
Has anyone tested something like this?
Thanks!:good:
Hey gaston. So I haven't rooted my note 5 just yet but I spent a year and a half with my opo trying all the permutations you mention.
Rooted greenify I feel works a lot like doze on marshmallow. If you are gaming you tubing etc constantly you won't really feel a difference.
Tasker is awesome and you will notice a difference in battery life to an extent but it goes way way beyond in terms of automation. If you end up using tasker profiles based on location and wifi you may just end up using more juice.
Package disabler using the profiles I have tried so far marginally improves battery life but nothing sizeable. I feel it makes the phone snappy by freeing some ram but that might just be a placebo.
Ergo I run the phone in full beast mode now and make use of the fast charge once in the evening for a half hour and that's good to get me through the day.
Sent from my SM-N920G using Tapatalk
swarup.siddharth said:
Hey gaston. So I haven't rooted my note 5 just yet but I spent a year and a half with my opo trying all the permutations you mention.
Rooted greenify I feel works a lot like doze on marshmallow. If you are gaming you tubing etc constantly you won't really feel a difference.
Tasker is awesome and you will notice a difference in battery life to an extent but it goes way way beyond in terms of automation. If you end up using tasker profiles based on location and wifi you may just end up using more juice.
Package disabler using the profiles I have tried so far marginally improves battery life but nothing sizeable. I feel it makes the phone snappy by freeing some ram but that might just be a placebo.
Ergo I run the phone in full beast mode now and make use of the fast charge once in the evening for a half hour and that's good to get me through the day.
Sent from my SM-N920G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks!
I appreciate your honest reply. Many people here in the forums seem to lie a lot about performance and battery life.
Maybe keeping the phone charged is the best and simple solution.
That being said you are rooted so go ahead and try the custom roms out there. That is the one sure fire way to see a difference in performance and battery life.
Sent from my SM-N920G using Tapatalk
I've been using Greenify (unrooted), Package Disabler Pro, and dark themes to maximize my battery life. But I think Tasker does the most to help me conserve battery power.
When I am at work, Tasker turns off WiFi, Bluetooth, all sounds, and drops screen brightness to about 20%. I only turn on GPS when I am using an app that requires it. Tasker turns my brightness and volumes down when I am connected to WiFi at home.
I think these simple actions with Tasker help my battery life more than just about anything else. I average about 6.5 hours of SOT, and I still have 30%+ left on my battery when I get home.
But it all depends on how you use your phone. YouTube and video games consume more juice than TapaTalk and light Internet browsing.
Just try to uninstall or disable facebook app via settings, and feel the difference. I read on Internet that Facebook app known as battery eater. Just try it and give some response here. Hope that help.
It depends. Some people want the extreme battery savings and are willing to sacrifice a lot of performance on the phone, dim screen, no GPS, etc.
I prefer my phone to operate at its full potential all the time. I don't want to mess with settings if something came up and someone wanted to see a picture and I have to worry about setting brightnesses and whatnot.
For the most part, most of those apps are only getting a marginal amount of better battery. Maybe 20 or 30 minutes more charge over the day.
During work, I rarely use my phone because I'm actually working lol. Sometimes I use it for work but the quick charge takes care of whatever I lose during my lunch hour
I use GSAM the monitor was actually using the most battery in just address what's needed. The only feature that I usually do turn off and keep up for the most part is my Wi-Fi. In the areas I use my phone the most, my average download speeds over cellular are over a gigabit
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
greeify - yes, only if you know greenified app was a battery drainer.
package disabler - yes, only if you know those services were battery drainers.
I use betterbatterystats app to find out what is draining the battery.
biggest culprit for me was phone not going into Deep Sleep. If you can remedy deep sleep issue, your battery will last much longer. I currently get around 1 percent drain every 2 hours when my phone's screen is off. that's with wifi on all the time.
Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
Another way without rooting that I found out, is disable google services. google play services and all google services. if you do that, watch your battery last forever.
I forget which app, but you could make profiles so you could enable or disable all google services, and google play services. I mean, you don't download new apps all the time, right?
So only enable google play services when you want to download apps and turn it off for the rest of time.
and of course deal with bloatware.
gaston_garcia said:
Thanks!
I appreciate your honest reply. Many people here in the forums seem to lie a lot about performance and battery life.
Maybe keeping the phone charged is the best and simple solution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm glad you asked, i've been using greenify amplify and powernap as of recently, and no it does not improve battery life automatically but it helps to keep your running services in check.
I've had couple of times that chrome was running in background, despite i closed it, means it drains battery when your screen is off, greenify prevents that from happening which result in battery improvement or more precisely, helps you manage the services right.
However to my surprise, calibrating the battery via batterycalibaration app or L Speed tweaks apk(both need root), it stabilized my battery after couple of cycles, i did a test charge the phone to 100 then using performance governor, i put Angry birds 2 till the battery reached 5% so i could see the SOT, before this step i had 2h 45m but AFTER calibration i had 4h 30m, that a LOT for performance non stop ab2 gaming.
It helps with regular uses as well, i also used repair battery to make sure that battery health is in check, hope all that helps
o7ex said:
Just try to uninstall or disable facebook app via settings, and feel the difference. I read on Internet that Facebook app known as battery eater. Just try it and give some response here. Hope that help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've tried this several times and over the last 3 weeks and honestly have never notice any difference to battery life. The less features of the web version to me doesn't warrant this as a worthwhile change.
---------- Post added at 11:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 AM ----------
Larry Johnson;65227925
Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
Another way without rooting that I found out said:
Re dr ketans rom assume this requires root? Does it take away features of the standard rom or is it closely linked to the OE Rom?
Interesting re profiles - I will look this up thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Derpling said:
However to my surprise, calibrating the battery via batterycalibaration app or L Speed tweaks apk(both need root), it stabilized my battery after couple of cycles, i did a test charge the phone to 100 then using performance governor, i put Angry birds 2 till the battery reached 5% so i could see the SOT, before this step i had 2h 45m but AFTER calibration i had 4h 30m, that a LOT for performance non stop ab2 gaming.
It helps with regular uses as well, i also used repair battery to make sure that battery health is in check, hope all that helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting. I've never tried calibrating a battery.
Honestly, I feel fine with my Note 5. But I always imagine what I want from a ROM or device:
Better battery is always good
Fast performance is good
Larry Johnson said:
Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've thought about installing and trying Dr. Ketan's Rom.
Has it been great for you? What's been the thing you like the most about it?
Thanks for your answer.:good:
stm8 said:
I've been using Greenify (unrooted), Package Disabler Pro, and dark themes to maximize my battery life. But I think Tasker does the most to help me conserve battery power.
When I am at work, Tasker turns off WiFi, Bluetooth, all sounds, and drops screen brightness to about 20%. I only turn on GPS when I am using an app that requires it. Tasker turns my brightness and volumes down when I am connected to WiFi at home.
I think these simple actions with Tasker help my battery life more than just about anything else. I average about 6.5 hours of SOT, and I still have 30%+ left on my battery when I get home.
But it all depends on how you use your phone. YouTube and video games consume more juice than TapaTalk and light Internet browsing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey..
I was interested when you mention using Tasker app, so I tried to use it.
When I was setting the app I try to set WiFi on when at home and set off when I'm not, does this need root? could you share the tutorial setup to me?
One more thing, I tried set GPS on when using the allowed app, I find this set must be rooted, If you could, would you share the tutorial setup too?
thanks
Seriously? Swipe down and toggle wifi and mobile data on/off!
Less than 2 seconds plus you can see your beautiful notification drawer if you using a theme you like!
bonerp said:
Re dr ketans rom assume this requires root? Does it take away features of the standard rom or is it closely linked to the OE Rom?
Interesting re profiles - I will look this up thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea, any rom install requires root. I thought about not rooting my note5 for a while. damn knox count that disables samsung pay + much harder to sell and lowers the resale value. HATE samsung for doing that. I mean, if I flash a stock rom, everything should be back to normal. ONLY company that makes the resale value of phone drop forever, if you root!
sorry, i digress.
dr ketan's rom is very clean and snappy. he only removed knox and carrier apps, and left everything stock. didn't take away any functions, but added "actually useful" features. insane amount of features without slowing down the phone. it feels like stock rom without the bloat and the usual "limited" feeling of stock. battery life is improved also. especially the deep sleep. what i noticed was that, when i was on stock, deep sleep was pretty good already, then I rooted and deep sleep was out of wack. I tried everything for the deep sleep to be better, but didn't work well. so i flashed dr ketan's rom, and deep sleep is now actually better than stock.
---------- Post added at 10:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 AM ----------
gaston_garcia said:
I've thought about installing and trying Dr. Ketan's Rom.
Has it been great for you? What's been the thing you like the most about it?
Thanks for your answer.:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- nonstop update/support. he actually replies to everyone. only developer i've seen who does that.
- very good features. they are actually very useful and powerful.
- very stable.
- an of course, great battery life.
Mr. Wayne8 said:
Hey..
I was interested when you mention using Tasker app, so I tried to use it.
When I was setting the app I try to set WiFi on when at home and set off when I'm not, does this need root? could you share the tutorial setup to me?
One more thing, I tried set GPS on when using the allowed app, I find this set must be rooted, If you could, would you share the tutorial setup too?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, there is a pretty steep learning curve when it comes to Tasker. On the bottom right hand corner in the Tasker app, click on the question-mark icon. From there you can click on "Guides" for user tips and tutorials. Click on "Userguide" for the manual.
GPS cannot be set without root, since Gingerbread OS I believe. I manually turn it on and off when I need it. I leave WiFi on during the time frame I am at work. Tasker turns it back on at quitting time. When I get home and connect to my home WiFi, Tasker sets my brightness, sound levels, etc.
Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
LazerH said:
Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't deactivate app rights of play services. It would break the functionality randomly and u won't know what happened. Just enable and reboot. Next time something happens, check the stat in gsam battery monitor. It's a good app and I am using it from 3 years.
It's not gsam I've had it installed on every phone for years and I always get amazing battery life.
I dont use google apps at all besides gmail and maps sometimes. But ill try around if it makes a difference.
I also cant believe that GSAM really is the problem there, but i didnt change anything else, i was just surprised of the good battery life and wanted to see the characteristics of battery statistics when i have a normal standby drain.
And immediatelly from that point on, the standby drain changed as u can see on the screenshots, even after uninstalling GSAM.
I now get 2h SOT with 50%, not 4,5.
So, is it possible that anything influencing that is changing by itself?
I didnt install any app or changed any setting, all i use was setted up in the beginning (franco, magisk, viper, all apps)
Yes google play store and google play services if you downloaded it and installed it that way? Google ruins battery life very randomly. If you restored a titanium backup or sideloaded the app then I have no clue. Even if you didnt do anything different there are a ton of things that can go wrong with android in the background. Recharge and reboot and start over.
954wrecker said:
Yes google play store and google play services if you downloaded it and installed it that way? Google ruins battery life very randomly. If you restored a titanium backup or sideloaded the app then I have no clue. Even if you didnt do anything different there are a ton of things that can go wrong with android in the background. Recharge and reboot and start over.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
tried everything already + wiping cache/dalvik
I just now wiped also system and dirty flashed the ROM + the stuff i need. Ill see it that solves the deal.
I just cant accept to not have the control over my phone as thats one of the advantages of rooting. I got the same battery life with same usage with my 2,5 year old OnePlus One.
I run the same apps on every phone and this phone has doubled the performance and battery compared to my nexus 6 note 5 and nexus 6p. First phone I've owned that actually sleeps when I turn off the screen.
954wrecker said:
I run the same apps on every phone and this phone has doubled the performance and battery compared to my nexus 6 note 5 and nexus 6p. First phone I've owned that actually sleeps when I turn off the screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The OPO with CM back then was a dream.
Are u using any apps or adjust settings in order to tweak that behavior?
LazerH said:
The OPO with CM back then was a dream.
Are u using any apps or adjust settings in order to tweak that behavior?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been on CM13 since the day it came out Dec 11th. I was getting amazing battery and standby on stock since I got the phone late November. I use xposed for tweaking everything but no modules or apps or settings for battery savings.
LazerH said:
Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I found 4.0.3 would get wakelocks from location service. I have installed firmware from OOS 3.5.4 and used Leandroid, since then I've had my old battery life back.
damiensturdy said:
I found 4.0.3 would get wakelocks from location service. I have installed firmware from OOS 3.5.4 and used Leandroid, since then I've had my old battery life back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
LazerH said:
I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which app? Magisk?
Magisk has its own root now. Fyi
Navi44 said:
Which app? Magisk?
Magisk has its own root now. Fyi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know, but the app still asks for root permission with SuperSU for all the foot options
LazerH said:
I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some parts of it only work with SuperSU, sure. The important bit that fixes the MRa big does unfortunately.
Not found a magisk equivalent, but I'm eager to find one!
I just recently got my 3T two weeks ago running OOS 4.0.3 and I also notice a lot of wakelocks, especially when on mobile data (3G/4G).
I am still tinkering to figure out what are the root causes for wakelocks in this case.
I suggest you install BetterBatteryStats from XDA, it does provide a lot of good info. GSAM is good too but I prefer BBS. You can grant it permissions to Battery_Stats if you are not rooted.
Here are my findings so far:
Google Services likes to access the GPS a lot, so I turned of Location History. This resulted in fewer wakelocks when the screen is off.
I have changed the GPS and set it to GPS Only so that it doesn't use the cell towers and WiFi to help determine a location. I am not sure if this makes a difference for wakelocks yet.
I know Nougat has doze, I am not sure how well it works...fortunately there is Aggressive Doze in the battery section of the settings. I have not tested this yet but this is something I will look into once I have determined all others aspects that may be causing wakelocks.
I do have the LED notification light enabled and I am using LightFlow to manage it. It works in conjunction with the built-in LED settings from OOS. This is fine, but I do believe this may cause wakelock issues.
Once again, in my experience, I get a lot of wakelocks when I am on mobile data compared to being on WiFi and I am not sure why there is a difference.
I've had Android Pie for about 5 days and I have found that my battery life is dropping like a rock.
I don't ever have my brightness on more than like 20% and I have found I am losing about 10% battery life after using my phone about 20 minutes.
What the hell?
Here's a screenshot of some stats...
You use many jank drainers apps. This is not android issue or rom issue. Your phone is not debloated. Your deepsleep is bad too. Your cpu clearly no sleep correct. Debloat your phone from this jank drainer apps. Use adhell if no have root for debloat and freezing jank apps and service. If you have root change rom and kernel and beloat with titanium backup. The brightness is the last part who gives you the extra battery. If you dont clean your phone dont expect good batterylife. Note 8 is not a battery phone.
y0000 said:
You use many jank drainers apps. This is not android issue or rom issue. Your phone is not debloated. Your deepsleep is bad too. Your cpu clearly no sleep correct. Debloat your phone from this jank drainer apps. Use adhell if no have root for debloat and freezing jank apps and service. If you have root change rom and kernel and beloat with titanium backup. The brightness is the last part who gives you the extra battery. If you dont clean your phone dont expect good batterylife. Note 8 is not a battery phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is a jank drainer?
You mean junk drainer?
Which should I remove?
I am not rooted.
Dankees said:
What is a jank drainer?
You mean junk drainer?
Which should I remove?
I am not rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
xda have so many tutorials how to debloat your phone correct. And how to boost up your battery. If you search you will find many of them.
Thanks.
I'm a novice. What can I do without rooting?
Dankees said:
Thanks.
I'm a novice. What can I do without rooting?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Disable applications, using a Package disabler app.
Its not even necessary to use a package disabler
The usage of nova launcher is not normal.
Did you do a clean install after the pie upgrade?
Reaper1337 said:
Its not even necessary to use a package disabler
The usage of nova launcher is not normal.
Did you do a clean install after the pie upgrade?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean?
Uninstall it and reinstall it with a back-up?
zzThrain said:
Disable applications, using a Package disabler app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which one?
The battery life on my Note 8 is pretty good running on Pie. If I am not gaming on it, I can easily get 1 and 1/2 days use out of it.
iceepyon said:
The battery life on my Note 8 is pretty good running on Pie. If I am not gaming on it, I can easily get 1 and 1/2 days use out of it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How? Please show your settings!
I run it with no battery issues. It lasts me for the whole work day from 7 to 5 and later on to when I go to bed.
I do see you use battery management apps that do nothing but waste more battery. It's more reasonable to use the built in one in Device Care or close apps you don't use. Also use Dark Mode. Lowers Battery Consumption and easier for your eyes plus it looks good.
I run it at WQHD+ and AOD On. No Power Saving Enabled
the Android update sucks! youtube has no on screen brightness or volume control now and the video scrubbing (ff & rew) is gone plus no more saving the video. the zoom on the shutter button is gone now for the camera...
My battery life is wack on Pie, honestly. I've tried fresh installs and apps like wakelock blockers, and I can still barely last a school day. I honestly think it's my battery in terms of its health. Stock Pie seems unoptimised to me.
Though it is known the whole "calibration" stuff helps, e.g waiting 3 days for the system to sleep things, or going 100 - 0 - 100 to see if that might help. It did help me for a while.
Visera said:
My battery life is wack on Pie, honestly. I've tried fresh installs and apps like wakelock blockers, and I can still barely last a school day. I honestly think it's my battery in terms of its health. Stock Pie seems unoptimised to me.
Though it is known the whole "calibration" stuff helps, e.g waiting 3 days for the system to sleep things, or going 100 - 0 - 100 to see if that might help. It did help me for a while.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Waiting for the system to sleep things for three days?
The April security update fixed my battery woes.