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Please reply with your own real experiences.
Q. Does rooted Greenify really improve battery life?
I use it, but I can't say it makes a huge difference.
Q. Does Package Disabler Pro really improve battery life?
I use it, but my co-worker doesn't, and his Note 5 lasts basically as long as mine.
Experiment:
Maybe what would be the most useful is using Tasker to really deal with battery life. I'm thinking about shutting off wifi and data when not needed, etc.
Has anyone tested something like this?
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Hey gaston. So I haven't rooted my note 5 just yet but I spent a year and a half with my opo trying all the permutations you mention.
Rooted greenify I feel works a lot like doze on marshmallow. If you are gaming you tubing etc constantly you won't really feel a difference.
Tasker is awesome and you will notice a difference in battery life to an extent but it goes way way beyond in terms of automation. If you end up using tasker profiles based on location and wifi you may just end up using more juice.
Package disabler using the profiles I have tried so far marginally improves battery life but nothing sizeable. I feel it makes the phone snappy by freeing some ram but that might just be a placebo.
Ergo I run the phone in full beast mode now and make use of the fast charge once in the evening for a half hour and that's good to get me through the day.
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swarup.siddharth said:
Hey gaston. So I haven't rooted my note 5 just yet but I spent a year and a half with my opo trying all the permutations you mention.
Rooted greenify I feel works a lot like doze on marshmallow. If you are gaming you tubing etc constantly you won't really feel a difference.
Tasker is awesome and you will notice a difference in battery life to an extent but it goes way way beyond in terms of automation. If you end up using tasker profiles based on location and wifi you may just end up using more juice.
Package disabler using the profiles I have tried so far marginally improves battery life but nothing sizeable. I feel it makes the phone snappy by freeing some ram but that might just be a placebo.
Ergo I run the phone in full beast mode now and make use of the fast charge once in the evening for a half hour and that's good to get me through the day.
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Thanks!
I appreciate your honest reply. Many people here in the forums seem to lie a lot about performance and battery life.
Maybe keeping the phone charged is the best and simple solution.
That being said you are rooted so go ahead and try the custom roms out there. That is the one sure fire way to see a difference in performance and battery life.
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I've been using Greenify (unrooted), Package Disabler Pro, and dark themes to maximize my battery life. But I think Tasker does the most to help me conserve battery power.
When I am at work, Tasker turns off WiFi, Bluetooth, all sounds, and drops screen brightness to about 20%. I only turn on GPS when I am using an app that requires it. Tasker turns my brightness and volumes down when I am connected to WiFi at home.
I think these simple actions with Tasker help my battery life more than just about anything else. I average about 6.5 hours of SOT, and I still have 30%+ left on my battery when I get home.
But it all depends on how you use your phone. YouTube and video games consume more juice than TapaTalk and light Internet browsing.
Just try to uninstall or disable facebook app via settings, and feel the difference. I read on Internet that Facebook app known as battery eater. Just try it and give some response here. Hope that help.
It depends. Some people want the extreme battery savings and are willing to sacrifice a lot of performance on the phone, dim screen, no GPS, etc.
I prefer my phone to operate at its full potential all the time. I don't want to mess with settings if something came up and someone wanted to see a picture and I have to worry about setting brightnesses and whatnot.
For the most part, most of those apps are only getting a marginal amount of better battery. Maybe 20 or 30 minutes more charge over the day.
During work, I rarely use my phone because I'm actually working lol. Sometimes I use it for work but the quick charge takes care of whatever I lose during my lunch hour
I use GSAM the monitor was actually using the most battery in just address what's needed. The only feature that I usually do turn off and keep up for the most part is my Wi-Fi. In the areas I use my phone the most, my average download speeds over cellular are over a gigabit
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greeify - yes, only if you know greenified app was a battery drainer.
package disabler - yes, only if you know those services were battery drainers.
I use betterbatterystats app to find out what is draining the battery.
biggest culprit for me was phone not going into Deep Sleep. If you can remedy deep sleep issue, your battery will last much longer. I currently get around 1 percent drain every 2 hours when my phone's screen is off. that's with wifi on all the time.
Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
Another way without rooting that I found out, is disable google services. google play services and all google services. if you do that, watch your battery last forever.
I forget which app, but you could make profiles so you could enable or disable all google services, and google play services. I mean, you don't download new apps all the time, right?
So only enable google play services when you want to download apps and turn it off for the rest of time.
and of course deal with bloatware.
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Thanks!
I appreciate your honest reply. Many people here in the forums seem to lie a lot about performance and battery life.
Maybe keeping the phone charged is the best and simple solution.
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I'm glad you asked, i've been using greenify amplify and powernap as of recently, and no it does not improve battery life automatically but it helps to keep your running services in check.
I've had couple of times that chrome was running in background, despite i closed it, means it drains battery when your screen is off, greenify prevents that from happening which result in battery improvement or more precisely, helps you manage the services right.
However to my surprise, calibrating the battery via batterycalibaration app or L Speed tweaks apk(both need root), it stabilized my battery after couple of cycles, i did a test charge the phone to 100 then using performance governor, i put Angry birds 2 till the battery reached 5% so i could see the SOT, before this step i had 2h 45m but AFTER calibration i had 4h 30m, that a LOT for performance non stop ab2 gaming.
It helps with regular uses as well, i also used repair battery to make sure that battery health is in check, hope all that helps
o7ex said:
Just try to uninstall or disable facebook app via settings, and feel the difference. I read on Internet that Facebook app known as battery eater. Just try it and give some response here. Hope that help.
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I've tried this several times and over the last 3 weeks and honestly have never notice any difference to battery life. The less features of the web version to me doesn't warrant this as a worthwhile change.
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Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
Another way without rooting that I found out said:
Re dr ketans rom assume this requires root? Does it take away features of the standard rom or is it closely linked to the OE Rom?
Interesting re profiles - I will look this up thanks
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Derpling said:
However to my surprise, calibrating the battery via batterycalibaration app or L Speed tweaks apk(both need root), it stabilized my battery after couple of cycles, i did a test charge the phone to 100 then using performance governor, i put Angry birds 2 till the battery reached 5% so i could see the SOT, before this step i had 2h 45m but AFTER calibration i had 4h 30m, that a LOT for performance non stop ab2 gaming.
It helps with regular uses as well, i also used repair battery to make sure that battery health is in check, hope all that helps
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Interesting. I've never tried calibrating a battery.
Honestly, I feel fine with my Note 5. But I always imagine what I want from a ROM or device:
Better battery is always good
Fast performance is good
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Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
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I've thought about installing and trying Dr. Ketan's Rom.
Has it been great for you? What's been the thing you like the most about it?
Thanks for your answer.:good:
stm8 said:
I've been using Greenify (unrooted), Package Disabler Pro, and dark themes to maximize my battery life. But I think Tasker does the most to help me conserve battery power.
When I am at work, Tasker turns off WiFi, Bluetooth, all sounds, and drops screen brightness to about 20%. I only turn on GPS when I am using an app that requires it. Tasker turns my brightness and volumes down when I am connected to WiFi at home.
I think these simple actions with Tasker help my battery life more than just about anything else. I average about 6.5 hours of SOT, and I still have 30%+ left on my battery when I get home.
But it all depends on how you use your phone. YouTube and video games consume more juice than TapaTalk and light Internet browsing.
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Hey..
I was interested when you mention using Tasker app, so I tried to use it.
When I was setting the app I try to set WiFi on when at home and set off when I'm not, does this need root? could you share the tutorial setup to me?
One more thing, I tried set GPS on when using the allowed app, I find this set must be rooted, If you could, would you share the tutorial setup too?
thanks
Seriously? Swipe down and toggle wifi and mobile data on/off!
Less than 2 seconds plus you can see your beautiful notification drawer if you using a theme you like!
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Re dr ketans rom assume this requires root? Does it take away features of the standard rom or is it closely linked to the OE Rom?
Interesting re profiles - I will look this up thanks
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yea, any rom install requires root. I thought about not rooting my note5 for a while. damn knox count that disables samsung pay + much harder to sell and lowers the resale value. HATE samsung for doing that. I mean, if I flash a stock rom, everything should be back to normal. ONLY company that makes the resale value of phone drop forever, if you root!
sorry, i digress.
dr ketan's rom is very clean and snappy. he only removed knox and carrier apps, and left everything stock. didn't take away any functions, but added "actually useful" features. insane amount of features without slowing down the phone. it feels like stock rom without the bloat and the usual "limited" feeling of stock. battery life is improved also. especially the deep sleep. what i noticed was that, when i was on stock, deep sleep was pretty good already, then I rooted and deep sleep was out of wack. I tried everything for the deep sleep to be better, but didn't work well. so i flashed dr ketan's rom, and deep sleep is now actually better than stock.
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gaston_garcia said:
I've thought about installing and trying Dr. Ketan's Rom.
Has it been great for you? What's been the thing you like the most about it?
Thanks for your answer.:good:
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- nonstop update/support. he actually replies to everyone. only developer i've seen who does that.
- very good features. they are actually very useful and powerful.
- very stable.
- an of course, great battery life.
Mr. Wayne8 said:
Hey..
I was interested when you mention using Tasker app, so I tried to use it.
When I was setting the app I try to set WiFi on when at home and set off when I'm not, does this need root? could you share the tutorial setup to me?
One more thing, I tried set GPS on when using the allowed app, I find this set must be rooted, If you could, would you share the tutorial setup too?
thanks
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Yeah, there is a pretty steep learning curve when it comes to Tasker. On the bottom right hand corner in the Tasker app, click on the question-mark icon. From there you can click on "Guides" for user tips and tutorials. Click on "Userguide" for the manual.
GPS cannot be set without root, since Gingerbread OS I believe. I manually turn it on and off when I need it. I leave WiFi on during the time frame I am at work. Tasker turns it back on at quitting time. When I get home and connect to my home WiFi, Tasker sets my brightness, sound levels, etc.
Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
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Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
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Don't deactivate app rights of play services. It would break the functionality randomly and u won't know what happened. Just enable and reboot. Next time something happens, check the stat in gsam battery monitor. It's a good app and I am using it from 3 years.
It's not gsam I've had it installed on every phone for years and I always get amazing battery life.
I dont use google apps at all besides gmail and maps sometimes. But ill try around if it makes a difference.
I also cant believe that GSAM really is the problem there, but i didnt change anything else, i was just surprised of the good battery life and wanted to see the characteristics of battery statistics when i have a normal standby drain.
And immediatelly from that point on, the standby drain changed as u can see on the screenshots, even after uninstalling GSAM.
I now get 2h SOT with 50%, not 4,5.
So, is it possible that anything influencing that is changing by itself?
I didnt install any app or changed any setting, all i use was setted up in the beginning (franco, magisk, viper, all apps)
Yes google play store and google play services if you downloaded it and installed it that way? Google ruins battery life very randomly. If you restored a titanium backup or sideloaded the app then I have no clue. Even if you didnt do anything different there are a ton of things that can go wrong with android in the background. Recharge and reboot and start over.
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Yes google play store and google play services if you downloaded it and installed it that way? Google ruins battery life very randomly. If you restored a titanium backup or sideloaded the app then I have no clue. Even if you didnt do anything different there are a ton of things that can go wrong with android in the background. Recharge and reboot and start over.
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tried everything already + wiping cache/dalvik
I just now wiped also system and dirty flashed the ROM + the stuff i need. Ill see it that solves the deal.
I just cant accept to not have the control over my phone as thats one of the advantages of rooting. I got the same battery life with same usage with my 2,5 year old OnePlus One.
I run the same apps on every phone and this phone has doubled the performance and battery compared to my nexus 6 note 5 and nexus 6p. First phone I've owned that actually sleeps when I turn off the screen.
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I run the same apps on every phone and this phone has doubled the performance and battery compared to my nexus 6 note 5 and nexus 6p. First phone I've owned that actually sleeps when I turn off the screen.
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The OPO with CM back then was a dream.
Are u using any apps or adjust settings in order to tweak that behavior?
LazerH said:
The OPO with CM back then was a dream.
Are u using any apps or adjust settings in order to tweak that behavior?
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I've been on CM13 since the day it came out Dec 11th. I was getting amazing battery and standby on stock since I got the phone late November. I use xposed for tweaking everything but no modules or apps or settings for battery savings.
LazerH said:
Hi guys,
so i newly setup my phone recently with OOS 4.0.3 in order to have a clean phone for the most efficient use.
For my surprise, for the first time using the 3T my energy efficiency was very good, i managed to get 4,5h SOT with the first 50% because i had almost no drain when the screen was turned off.
I attached the screenshots.
Basically, i just flashed OOS 4.0.3 and the newest franco kernel and magisk for root. I didnt use greenify (which i usually do), just the strict standby option in the android settings.
So far so good, but now to the part i cant understand.
I installed gsam battery monitor and gave it root access, so i can have detailed battery information.
From that point, i experienced again the standby drain combined with wakelooks, as u can see in the screenshot starting around 60% of the battery.
So far i uninstalled the app, i used greenify, but i cant get back when i had no wakelocks.
Is it really because of Gsam Battery? How can get away the standby drain without setting up the phone completely new?
PS: I also deactivated some of the access rights of apps, especially for play services.
Is it possible that they regain the access by themselves or that google play services is draining the battery
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I found 4.0.3 would get wakelocks from location service. I have installed firmware from OOS 3.5.4 and used Leandroid, since then I've had my old battery life back.
damiensturdy said:
I found 4.0.3 would get wakelocks from location service. I have installed firmware from OOS 3.5.4 and used Leandroid, since then I've had my old battery life back.
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I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
LazerH said:
I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
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Which app? Magisk?
Magisk has its own root now. Fyi
Navi44 said:
Which app? Magisk?
Magisk has its own root now. Fyi
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I know, but the app still asks for root permission with SuperSU for all the foot options
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I like that app, but its only fully functional with SuperSU. Do u know if there is any similar app also working with Magisk?
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Some parts of it only work with SuperSU, sure. The important bit that fixes the MRa big does unfortunately.
Not found a magisk equivalent, but I'm eager to find one!
I just recently got my 3T two weeks ago running OOS 4.0.3 and I also notice a lot of wakelocks, especially when on mobile data (3G/4G).
I am still tinkering to figure out what are the root causes for wakelocks in this case.
I suggest you install BetterBatteryStats from XDA, it does provide a lot of good info. GSAM is good too but I prefer BBS. You can grant it permissions to Battery_Stats if you are not rooted.
Here are my findings so far:
Google Services likes to access the GPS a lot, so I turned of Location History. This resulted in fewer wakelocks when the screen is off.
I have changed the GPS and set it to GPS Only so that it doesn't use the cell towers and WiFi to help determine a location. I am not sure if this makes a difference for wakelocks yet.
I know Nougat has doze, I am not sure how well it works...fortunately there is Aggressive Doze in the battery section of the settings. I have not tested this yet but this is something I will look into once I have determined all others aspects that may be causing wakelocks.
I do have the LED notification light enabled and I am using LightFlow to manage it. It works in conjunction with the built-in LED settings from OOS. This is fine, but I do believe this may cause wakelock issues.
Once again, in my experience, I get a lot of wakelocks when I am on mobile data compared to being on WiFi and I am not sure why there is a difference.
Hey there,
I've had my 3T ever since it was released, and compared to my previous phone, Samsung S6, I'm definitely getting a better battery life, but it's been hit or miss for me the last month or so, and I'm wondering how I can try and increase the battery life and whether rooting my phone would help.
I've literally never rooted a phone before, so I don't know if this is advisable for someone so new to all this - is it easy to do so?
I've included a few screenshots of my battery life currently, I used to get around 7 hours SOT total, now I'd say I get around 5-6 depending on what I do? I don't constantly have wifi on, I'm not using greenify or any other battery saving apps, I have doze on in the developer settings but not aggressive dose.
I've seen others with 10 hours SOT so I know this phone is certainly capable of it, and I know I don't have the most terrible battery life but the drain is fairly noticeable imo when it's idle.
Would it be worthwhile to factory reset the phone first and see if it improves anything first?
While rooting itself wouldn't increase battery life, you can do some stuff like, flash a different kernel such as Franco kernel, that has improved my battery life immensely. Or you can install a rom which could help also.
And yes rooting your phone is very simple just follow the guides step by step. That's my battery life at 78%
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While rooting itself wouldn't increase battery life, you can do some stuff like, flash a different kernel such as Franco kernel, that has improved my battery life immensely. Or you can install a rom which could help also.
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Would you say it's easy to do for someone who's not done this kind of thing before?
microserfs said:
Would you say it's easy to do for someone who's not done this kind of thing before?
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Most definitely, I know it can be nerve-racking at first but just watch and read the tutorials a few times and understand the steps, then give it a try. Even if something does go wrong, we are all here to help you, it legit will only take you 15 mins tops to root your phone
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I think that was the video I followed
The battery life won't be affected significantly but u can use apps like greenify or install custom kernel like the Franco kernel to improve the battery life. They do really work
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Most definitely, I know it can be nerve-racking at first but just watch and read the tutorials a few times and understand the steps, then give it a try. Even if something does go wrong, we are all here to help you, it legit will only take you 15 mins tops to root your phone
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I think that was the video I followed
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Thank you! I have a Macbook so I don't know if the process is significantly different as I'm not used to all the terminal commands and using adb and stuff, but I'll definitely check out the video Am a bit cautious about doing it rn as I'm away for a few weeks haha, so I don't know whether I should wait until I get back but having a better battery life abroad would really be useful!
9891ishu said:
The battery life won't be affected significantly but u can use apps like greenify or install custom kernel like the Franco kernel to improve the battery life. They do really work
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Yeah, that's the main reason I was thinking of doing so, mainly for the apps like Greenify and to check out the wakelocks and stuff in more detail. Thanks, good to know it might actually help increase the battery life to do so
microserfs said:
Hey there,
I've had my 3T ever since it was released, and compared to my previous phone, Samsung S6, I'm definitely getting a better battery life, but it's been hit or miss for me the last month or so, and I'm wondering how I can try and increase the battery life and whether rooting my phone would help.
I've literally never rooted a phone before, so I don't know if this is advisable for someone so new to all this - is it easy to do so?
I've included a few screenshots of my battery life currently, I used to get around 7 hours SOT total, now I'd say I get around 5-6 depending on what I do? I don't constantly have wifi on, I'm not using greenify or any other battery saving apps, I have doze on in the developer settings but not aggressive dose.
I've seen others with 10 hours SOT so I know this phone is certainly capable of it, and I know I don't have the most terrible battery life but the drain is fairly noticeable imo when it's idle.
Would it be worthwhile to factory reset the phone first and see if it improves anything first?
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Would you say battery was better on Marshmallow or Nougat? Maybe try downgrading and see if battery life improves again.
954wrecker said:
Would you say battery was better on Marshmallow or Nougat? Maybe try downgrading and see if battery life improves again.
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I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
microserfs said:
I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
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Maybe its just our batteries degrading. I used to get 12-14 and now I only get 10-12. Same apps and settings and usage.
microserfs said:
I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
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i fixed this by installing app ops and disabling keep phone awake, location, body sensors, and wake device permissions from google play services. Installing greenify and putting all my apps in there that i dont rely on notifications for. Setting up a tasker profile to greenify apps whenever my display is turned off (greenify doesn't do this straight away and some apps take forever). Installing naptime and turning on aggressive doze (for the apps that aren't greenified, works better than nougat's built in i think it doesn't kick in for 30 minutes on it's own).
I get 1% drain per 6-8 hours this way. The app ops part was the final step i took because i noticed 600 alarms from google play services overnight and now i dont get more than 30 so obviously thats completely ridiculous.
EuEra said:
i fixed this by installing app ops and disabling keep phone awake, location, body sensors, and wake device permissions from google play services. Installing greenify and putting all my apps in there that i dont rely on notifications for. Setting up a tasker profile to greenify apps whenever my display is turned off (greenify doesn't do this straight away and some apps take forever). Installing naptime and turning on aggressive doze (for the apps that aren't greenified, works better than nougat's built in i think it doesn't kick in for 30 minutes on it's own).
I get 1% drain per 6-8 hours this way. The app ops part was the final step i took because i noticed 600 alarms from google play services overnight and now i dont get more than 30 so obviously thats completely ridiculous.
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Are you rooted? I'm wondering how much of this I can do without rooting but I know apps like Greenify work better with root and Naptime requires root to work. I figured Greenify and Doze were doing similar things but I guess Greenify works differently? I'll probably find that rooting will get me better battery life in general if I can make use of all these apps by doing so. I don't know how to check wakelocks without rooting (don't think there's a way) but GSam tells me the Android System "Number of Times Waking Device" is 184. idk if this really says much tho.
microserfs said:
Are you rooted? I'm wondering how much of this I can do without rooting but I know apps like Greenify work better with root and Naptime requires root to work. I figured Greenify and Doze were doing similar things but I guess Greenify works differently? I'll probably find that rooting will get me better battery life in general if I can make use of all these apps by doing so. I don't know how to check wakelocks without rooting (don't think there's a way) but GSam tells me the Android System "Number of Times Waking Device" is 184. idk if this really says much tho.
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I don't a reason not to root any more, with magisk you get root and can still use things like android pay or banking apps etc.
Looking at the OnePlus 10 pro on paper, it has everything you would possibly need to achieve incredible screen on times.
The idea behind this besides some healthy competition is to whittle out the bugs and battery draining apps and habits.... in the hope that we all benefit from the knowledge learned and gathered.
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If you'd like to register an SOT, you will need to provide a screen shot of your battery stats using the stock battery app, clearly showing the up time and screen usage time and app list.
Your OS, kernel if different from stock (no screen shot required)
NOTE*** Without this proof, your name and score won't be added.
That's it
Good luck
Some tips for better battery life.
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean and dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tend to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods, use them if required and get rid.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so I've probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files / apps / mods / widgets / features you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Hope this helps.
9 hours 45 11_A.12 NE2213
NE2213_11_A.12
EU model, Oxygen OS 12.1
Only 4G, no WiFi!
7 hours 1 minute.
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Macke93 said:
NE2213_11_A.12
EU model, Oxygen OS 12.1
Only 4G, no WiFi!
7 hours 1 minute.
(Screenshot deleted while re-locking bootloader).
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I'll put it up as there's none up and a believable time.
Changed over to lawnchair 2 and holy moly the difference has been amazing.
0% lost overnight 8 hours
Currently on 4 hours with normal usage, it's heading for a ridiculous screen on time.
6 hours and 2 minutes with 41% used.
Crazy
dladz said:
Changed over to lawnchair 2 and holy moly the difference has been amazing.
0% lost overnight 8 hours
Currently on 4 hours with normal usage, it's heading for a ridiculous screen on time.
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Any difference between lawnchair 2 and other lawnchair versions then?
kouzelnik3 said:
Any difference between lawnchair 2 and other lawnchair versions then?
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Not that I've noticed.. its just the one from the play store. I think it's 2. Could be wrong, certainly more efficient than anything else I've tried.
I'm just happy I've managed to get my phone to be dropping 0% overnight, that's how it should be.
My 8 pro used to take about 4-8% overnight
dladz said:
Changed over to lawnchair 2 and holy moly the difference has been amazing.
0% lost overnight 8 hours
Currently on 4 hours with normal usage, it's heading for a ridiculous screen on time.
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Gonna try out Lawnchair launcher and see if it helps my phone too
Most recently I now have 8 hours SOT with 12% battery left. Feels good gonna try to empty the battery to 1-2% and report back the SOT here once again.
dladz said:
Not that I've noticed.. its just the one from the play store. I think it's 2. Could be wrong, certainly more efficient than anything else I've tried.
I'm just happy I've managed to get my phone to be dropping 0% overnight, that's how it should be.
My 8 pro used to take about 4-8% overnight
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I got 2 % drain overnight 8 hours, which is ok for me with everything I got installed (airplane mode).
I wonder whether I will try lawnchair too, but I am using Nova for years
kouzelnik3 said:
I got 2 % drain overnight 8 hours, which is ok for me with everything I got installed (airplane mode).
I wonder whether I will try lawnchair too, but I am using Nova for years
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Comparing the two I prefer lawnchair, nova is a little too flicky for my liking, I prefer smooth transitions and fluidity rather than overly quick and flicky, you'll know what I mean when you install it 2% is still 2-6% better than the 8 pro..
Macke93 said:
Gonna try out Lawnchair launcher and see if it helps my phone too
Most recently I now have 8 hours SOT with 12% battery left. Feels good gonna try to empty the battery to 1-2% and report back the SOT here once again.
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Tbh that's still great time you're making.
It's nuts I'm on 7+ hours with 52% left.
Haven't been doing anything special, just using my phone.
dladz said:
Not that I've noticed.. its just the one from the play store. I think it's 2. Could be wrong, certainly more efficient than anything else I've tried.
I'm just happy I've managed to get my phone to be dropping 0% overnight, that's how it should be.
My 8 pro used to take about 4-8% overnight
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Try disabling Google play Services when not needed. It has a bunch of power sucking dependencies. I disable more Google system apps than that on my N10+, but disabling play services may be enough to tone it down especially at night.
Use manual brightness control and keep below 50%.
Social media apps should never be installed for a variety of reasons including excessive battery consumption... just saying.
blackhawk said:
Try disabling Google play Services when not needed. It has a bunch of power sucking dependencies. I disable more Google system apps than that on my N10+, but disabling play services may be enough to tone it down especially at night.
Use manual brightness control and keep below 50%.
Social media apps should never be installed for a variety of reasons including excessive battery consumption... just saying.
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I agree buddy, but I'm not sure I need to disable anything else.... At this rate I'll have 14 hours SOT..
Have a look at the second post for my idea of keeping the battery down
But then again, could always have more...
So when you disable Google play services. What method are you using?
Just literally disable it?
dladz said:
I agree buddy, but I'm not sure I need to disable anything else.... At this rate I'll have 14 hours SOT..
Have a look at the second post for my idea of keeping the battery down
But then again, could always have more...
So when you disable Google play services. What method are you using? It was listed at one time on Package Disabler Pro but was inexplicably removed.
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Agreed, it sounds optimized to me! Hell yeah.
Most Android phones need to be optimized to get best performance... just the way it is.
I go to settings>apps, search for play, then disable/enable it there. I use it 2-3 [email protected] day, sometimes less.
If the disable option is grayed out, go to security and disable Find my Device as a system Administrator.
So many big sister Gookill system apps I hate...
blackhawk said:
Agreed, it sounds optimized to me! Hell yeah.
Most Android phones need to be optimized to get best performance... just the way it is.
I go to settings>apps, search for play, then disable/enable it there. I use it 2-3 [email protected] day, sometimes less.
If the disable option is grayed out, go to security and disable Find my Device as a system Administrator.
So many big sister Gookill system apps I hate...
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Just done it but getting a lot of dings every time I unlock, little annoying tbh. I'm just wondering is the call to open services actually using battery ? I dunno. Perhaps if there wasn't a load of notifications..
I'll leave it for this cycle and maybe see how it compares next time, I'm not out over the weekend so have a good location to get fault results.
dladz said:
Just done it but getting a lot of dings every time I unlock, little annoying tbh. I'm just wondering is the call to open services actually using battery ? I dunno. Perhaps if there wasn't a load of notifications..
I'll leave it for this cycle and maybe see how it compares next time, I'm not out over the weekend so have a good location to get fault results.
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On my phone it can suck up to 1+%@hr with screen on... so it adds up. No reasoning with it.
You can kill those very annoying notifications; Gmaps, Gmail, do it; disable notifications. There may be more depending on your configuration.
Leave the warning running and when you disable notifications in the right app... it will stop. Instant gratification
Hello
Yesterday i had the phone around 65% at 01h00, in the next morning (around 7h20) i wake up to find the phone at 1%, no wifi/4G/bluetooth/GPS...etc was active, even the battery saver was ON. As you can see in the screenshots, android system drain battery around 400% !!! what's up with this behavior ? happened the 1st time last week (49% drained in 8 hours) the problem seems gone after i fully charge and than reboot, but still today happened.
The phone is almost 1 month old.
The 1st few days, i disconnected the phone from charging at 100% and went to sleep, after 6 hours battery is drained by 6% without doing nothing. is this normal ??? screenshot
ROM : crDroid 8, latest magisk installed+microg+magiskhide props config and fdroid/aurora modules installed.
Thanks
which rom are u using now? stock or custom?
sheikfahad said:
which rom are u using now? stock or custom?
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Read the post. They are using crdroid8
Arealhooman said:
Read the post. They are using crdroid8ok
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Arealhooman said:
Read the post. They are using crdroid8
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ok... is there any heating issues?
Oi69qEZ said:
Hello
Yesterday i had the phone around 65% at 01h00, in the next morning (around 7h20) i wake up to find the phone at 1%, no wifi/4G/bluetooth/GPS...etc was active, even the battery saver was ON. As you can see in the screenshots, android system drain battery around 400% !!! what's up with this behavior ? happened the 1st time last week (49% drained in 8 hours) the problem seems gone after i fully charge and than reboot, but still today happened.
The phone is almost 1 month old.
The 1st few days, i disconnected the phone from charging at 100% and went to sleep, after 6 hours battery is drained by 6% without doing nothing. is this normal ??? screenshot
ROM : crDroid 8, latest magisk installed+microg+magiskhide props config and fdroid/aurora modules installed.
Thanks
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clearly something is going wrong, I would suggest factory resetting, and optionally reinstalling your custom rom.
Oi69qEZ said:
Hello
Yesterday i had the phone around 65% at 01h00, in the next morning (around 7h20) i wake up to find the phone at 1%, no wifi/4G/bluetooth/GPS...etc was active, even the battery saver was ON. As you can see in the screenshots, android system drain battery around 400% !!! what's up with this behavior ? happened the 1st time last week (49% drained in 8 hours) the problem seems gone after i fully charge and than reboot, but still today happened.
The phone is almost 1 month old.
The 1st few days, i disconnected the phone from charging at 100% and went to sleep, after 6 hours battery is drained by 6% without doing nothing. is this normal ??? screenshot
ROM : crDroid 8, latest magisk installed+microg+magiskhide props config and fdroid/aurora modules installed.
Thanks
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well, that must a bug related to optimiztion of the rom, report it to the rom mantainer
Exactly what happened to me same ROM same phone but I didn't root it. it drained from 54% to 6% during the night, next day I switched the ambient display off and the battery became better but so far I am also looking for solutions to make it similar to miui
I feel the battery is draining so much fast when I start using the apps unlike miui but the room is also great and fast , with my light use it gave me 1 day of use and remaining of 10% with 120 fps (3.3%/hr screen on and 0.6%/h screen off )
today I will test it with 60fps
sheikfahad said:
ok... is there any heating issues?
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No, only when charging of course (around 40°)
Arealhooman said:
clearly something is going wrong, I would suggest factory resetting, and optionally reinstalling your custom rom.
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I'll wait and see if this bug happens again as right now i need the phone for the rest of the week, if happens again i might switch rom altogether on the weekend.
tutibreaker said:
well, that must a bug related to optimiztion of the rom, report it to the rom mantainer
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yeah i'll do that. ty
Johnton said:
Exactly what happened to me same ROM same phone but I didn't root it. it drained from 54% to 6% during the night, next day I switched the ambient display off and the battery became better but so far I am also looking for solutions to make it similar to miui
I feel the battery is draining so much fast when I start using the apps unlike miui but the room is also great and fast , with my light use it gave me 1 day of use and remaining of 10% with 120 fps (3.3%/hr screen on and 0.6%/h screen off )
today I will test it with 60fps
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Wow, 3.3%/hr is seriously impressive for active drain, especially for 120hz. Can I ask you if you did anything special / your exact setup? I installed Ricedroid 8.0 + Sleepy kernel and applied the GMS Doze module + Naptime (as suggested by a kind poster on here), and this allowed my idle drain to go down to 0.2%/hr, but my active drain is still struggling a bit.
Linkoh said:
Wow, 3.3%/hr is seriously impressive for active drain, especially for 120hz. Can I ask you if you did anything special / your exact setup? I installed Ricedroid 8.0 + Sleepy kernel and applied the GMS Doze module + Naptime (as suggested by a kind poster on here), and this allowed my idle drain to go down to 0.2%/hr, but my active drain is still struggling a bit.
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to be honest I am not sure if I report it correctly I have used accubattry app but I will post few screenshots from the app and you can see , I didn't do anything except disable the ambient display maybe my usage is light in default I don't know I also formatted the phone like 20 times during my testing for different ROMs. I found Cr-droid to be the best so far or miui
Johnton said:
to be honest I am not sure if I report it correctly I have used accubattry app but I will post few screenshots from the app and you can see , I didn't do anything except disable the ambient display maybe my usage is light in default I don't know I also formatted the phone like 20 times during my testing for different ROMs. I found Cr-droid to be the best so far or miui
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Ohh the 3.3%/hr is combined use, which takes account of both active drain and idle drain (through what I guess is some weighted average). But honestly, 6.7%/hr (or even 7.8%/hr tbh) is still pretty damn impressive, so I'll thank you for letting me know! Now I wanna flash crDroid haha.
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Ohh the 3.3%/hr is combined use, which takes account of both active drain and idle drain (through what I guess is some weighted average). But honestly, 6.7%/hr (or even 7.8%/hr tbh) is still pretty damn impressive, so I'll thank you for letting me know! Now I wanna flash crDroid haha.
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I spent 1 day and half trying all custom roms in this forum because for long time I was on miui and didn't know how custom ROMs are now , after trying I found that all custom ROMs either are pixel flavored or very basic without any customization and I settled with Cr-droid because it offers best of both worlds less google and good customization options.
now regarding the battery after few days of using on 60 fps I have combined use 2.4%/hr and 0.8% screen off but I still feel that it drains fast during my usage compared to Miui , I have only used naptime for optimization do you advise me to add anything else for non-rooted device ?
Johnton said:
I spent 1 day and half trying all custom roms in this forum because for long time I was on miui and didn't know how custom ROMs are now , after trying I found that all custom ROMs either are pixel flavored or very basic without any customization and I settled with Cr-droid because it offers best of both worlds less google and good customization options.
now regarding the battery after few days of using on 60 fps I have combined use 2.4%/hr and 0.8% screen off but I still feel that it drains fast during my usage compared to Miui , I have only used naptime for optimization do you advise me to add anything else for non-rooted device ?
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MIUI very often switches off alarm (not clock alarm) and wakeups -- it's known for long. Your notifications often comes late when using MIUI. In real life situation, however you might never notice it, but it's there. It also sets higher priorities to known messaging, social media apps to receive notification/action faster than any apps that are outside "the list".
It's a good trade off for battery life compares to stock AOSP or lineage which put every apps on generic list of "optimized battery" based on your pattern. It will took a long before the pattern is useable.
Johnton said:
I spent 1 day and half trying all custom roms in this forum because for long time I was on miui and didn't know how custom ROMs are now , after trying I found that all custom ROMs either are pixel flavored or very basic without any customization and I settled with Cr-droid because it offers best of both worlds less google and good customization options.
now regarding the battery after few days of using on 60 fps I have combined use 2.4%/hr and 0.8% screen off but I still feel that it drains fast during my usage compared to Miui , I have only used naptime for optimization do you advise me to add anything else for non-rooted device ?
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I'm not sure about your possibilities on a non-rooted device honestly. I think Naptime can work on a non-rooted device, if you grant a few permissions through ADB first (if I remember correctly, the app itself will guide you through the process). Be mindful of which apps you're restricting though, as Naptime will likely cause delays in the arrival of notifications. You can whitelist apps through Android's battery restriction screen.
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I'm not sure about your possibilities on a non-rooted device honestly. I think Naptime can work on a non-rooted device, if you grant a few permissions through ADB first (if I remember correctly, the app itself will guide you through the process). Be mindful of which apps you're restricting though, as Naptime will likely cause delays in the arrival of notifications. You can whitelist apps through Android's battery restriction screen.
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yes I am it currently after activation via ADB it made some improvement I felt , so far the highest consuming system apps are : Android OS [19%] screen [9%] and System UI [6%] can I do something about them ?
Johnton said:
yes I am it currently after activation via ADB it made some improvement I felt , so far the highest consuming system apps are : Android OS [19%] screen [9%] and System UI [6%] can I do something about them ?
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Hmm I don't have any further tips honestly, not about these specific things. In my case, using Naptime already improves battery life by a ton over the course of a day (not wasting entire %s in hours of idle time is already huge).
Try and see if greenify or its replacements helps.