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Green blinking light for notifications.. Nice you have to manually activate it

This bugged me so I googled it... should be nailed to the top of the QandA forum.. every Moto droid ive had original, droid x, droid 3 and razr m have had this but moto x doesn't have it until you root and activate it??? Did they hire Homer Simpson as the new developer... wait.. it's the google maps idiot.. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/surprising-news-moto-x-has-a-notification-light/

The fact that Active Display works and the X8 chipset was designed specifically to provide that functionality - that Active Display IS how you receive notifications - seems perfectly logical to me. The Moto X is not a Droid device, it doesn't act or work like one in most respects, and the Active Display + Touchless Control are both aspects that further create a divide between the Droid line and the Moto line.
I get the idea of a "notification light" but I mean really, if people don't buy a Moto X to make use of Active Display and whatever, why the hell are people buying it?

It won't work as a notification light. Actually, I think cm or something got it to work ONLY when the phone is plugged into a charger. Kinda pointless. Lol
It will work as a battery charging indicator with a tasker profile. Or app made by tasker.
But yeah, its not really a notification led.
So if it isn't plugged into a charger....it won't do anything.

doitinthedirt said:
This bugged me so I googled it... should be nailed to the top of the QandA forum.. every Moto droid ive had original, droid x, droid 3 and razr m have had this but moto x doesn't have it until you root and activate it??? Did they hire Homer Simpson as the new developer... wait.. it's the google maps idiot.. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/surprising-news-moto-x-has-a-notification-light/
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I like the active display way better than the light. Seems like a step back. On the other hand I hate restrictions so they should have made it an option in the strange case that someone would prefer it.

doitinthedirt said:
This bugged me so I googled it... should be nailed to the top of the QandA forum.. every Moto droid ive had original, droid x, droid 3 and razr m have had this but moto x doesn't have it until you root and activate it??? Did they hire Homer Simpson as the new developer... wait.. it's the google maps idiot.. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/surprising-news-moto-x-has-a-notification-light/
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It's not a notification light. It's a light for when you are charging a dead phone. It cannot be setup as a notification light....did you even read the article you linked us to?
The Moto X has Active Display, so it doesn't need a notification light....the screen IS the notification light. The green light behind the speaker HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NOTIFICATIONS.....so I don't know what you're on about.
You don't have to "manually activate it"....it already works & functions as intended out-of-the-box. The light comes on when you plug up your dead phone. That's how it was intended to function, and that's how it functions.

I use it only to light up when the battery is fully charged.
If i could have a active notification for this, i would preffer it

doitinthedirt said:
This bugged me so I googled it... should be nailed to the top of the QandA forum.. every Moto droid ive had original, droid x, droid 3 and razr m have had this but moto x doesn't have it until you root and activate it??? Did they hire Homer Simpson as the new developer... wait.. it's the google maps idiot.. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/surprising-news-moto-x-has-a-notification-light/
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It's not a notification light, it's for when the phone is COMPLETELY dead so you have some indication that it's charging. They didn't put a notification light because ActiveNotifications was designed for this phone. There is already a thread for this, use the search bar please so you don't take away from important discussions. A quick search finds both a portal post and a thread on this topic.
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Moto Actions and Moto Circles Widget?

I had a Moto Atrix HD some time again which had the Moto Circles Widget and Moto Actions...Is there a way to find the APK's for these and install them? Should work right since it's in the Moto family I'm guessing?
I see moto actions is a thing that's part of this moto assitant thing, but moto actions back in the day let you set rules for certain things like turn bluetooth off and go to vibrate only when I reached my work (used GPS to know), things like that...Don't think this assistant can auto-do that for me seeing if I can just get the app again.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llama&hl=en
Probably much more powerful than Moto Actions ever was.

nimper said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llama&hl=en
Probably much more powerful than Moto Actions ever was.
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Thanks for that! Anything that can make play music launch when something is plugged into the headphone jack? Moto assist had an option for that too :3

Hemotherapy said:
Thanks for that! Anything that can make play music launch when something is plugged into the headphone jack? Moto assist had an option for that too :3
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Actually Tasker can do this, it doesn't require root for everything.

nimper said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llama&hl=en
Probably much more powerful than Moto Actions ever was.
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ahh i see. thanks for the info! much appreciated!

Moto display/voice ports

Y'all think they'll be available, seeing as how this seems to be based on the droid turbo with most of the same hardware?
I had a moto x (2013) and loved those features, just wasn't crazy about the battery life.
A nexus 6 with working active display/moto voice would be amazing.

It looks like Google has incorporated similar features into Android itself.
There's something new called Ambient Display, which is similar to Moto Display.
You can say "OK Google" with the screen off, which is functionally similar to Moto Voice — albeit without the custom launch phrases.
Moto Voice records your voice and then pipes that recording into Google Now. Since this new feature launches Google Now directly, it's probably a lot faster than Moto Voice.

Is there anything setting need to do before OK Google works with screen off?
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NOTashwin said:
It looks like Google has incorporated similar features into Android itself.
There's something new called Ambient Display, which is similar to Moto Display.
You can say "OK Google" with the screen off, which is functionally similar to Moto Voice — albeit without the custom launch phrases.
Moto Voice records your voice and then pipes that recording into Google Now. Since this new feature launches Google Now directly, it's probably a lot faster than Moto Voice.
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To be honest I rather have Moto Display than Ambient Display, Google's version just has soo many flaws, and sometimes its not consistent and not only that, theres not much features
If porting the Moto Display and other goodies from the X will be possible I'll be keeping a close eye out

I exported most of the files required for it, but am stuck at the Motorola-specific signature process... And life is getting in the way as well.

Anyone see that China is getting the moto x pro? It's basically the nexus 6 without the nexus branding. Any bets on whether it'll come with the moto tweaks and that a ROM can be made for the nexus 6?

Does anyone know if the moto voice has been ported for the Nexus 6? I like that the moto voice will read your messages to you.

coldheater said:
Does anyone know if the moto voice has been ported for the Nexus 6? I like that the moto voice will read your messages to you.
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Not yet. I think the best bet would be perhaps getting a dump from the Moto X Pro, which is the Chinese variation of the Nexus 6. China doesn't have Google services, so the Nexus branding has been dropped and all Google apps, but Moto looks to have added their apps to it. Some pics here, which you can see some of the icons on the home screen (unsure if it will have all of the Moto apps though).

cupfulloflol said:
Not yet. I think the best bet would be perhaps getting a dump from the Moto X Pro, which is the Chinese variation of the Nexus 6. China doesn't have Google services, so the Nexus branding has been dropped and all Google apps, but Moto looks to have added their apps to it. Some pics here, which you can see some of the icons on the home screen (unsure if it will have all of the Moto apps though).
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Thanks a bunch and that's probably best. I have to see when its released....any release dates yet?

coldheater said:
Thanks a bunch and that's probably best. I have to see when its released....any release dates yet?
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I see that it has been released in China a few days ago, any updates anyone?

coldheater said:
I see that it has been released in China a few days ago, any updates anyone?
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Theres a Moto X Pro system dump in this thread.
The Moto X Pro bootanimation.zip uses video files and videodesc.txt instead of .png images and desc.txt like Nexus 6, but it works by just copying /system/bin/bootanimation file from Moto X Pro to Nexus 6, changing permissions and rebooting. Can the same be said for the Moto Apps? Just copy all the apks from /system/priv-app on Moto X Pro to same place on Nexus 6, as well as the /system/lib and /system/bin files?
If anyone knows how to do this it would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime I'll be searching for threads that point me in the right direction and trying the method I mentioned to see what happens.

KnifeSkills said:
Theres a Moto X Pro system dump in this thread.
The Moto X Pro bootanimation.zip uses video files and videodesc.txt instead of .png images and desc.txt like Nexus 6, but it works by just copying /system/bin/bootanimation file from Moto X Pro to Nexus 6, changing permissions and rebooting. Can the same be said for the Moto Apps? Just copy all the apks from /system/priv-app on Moto X Pro to same place on Nexus 6, as well as the /system/lib and /system/bin files?
If anyone knows how to do this it would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime I'll be searching for threads that point me in the right direction and trying the method I mentioned to see what happens.
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I'm the one who uploaded the system dump as an alternative to baidu , because it was too slow .I need to get an update-script to make this ROM.zip flashing process possible ,though I don't know how to do one , I won't be able to make this thing possible.If any of you wants to help me , shoot me with a PM .

blinqipa said:
I'm the one who uploaded the system dump as an alternative to baidu , because it was too slow .I need to get an update-script to make this ROM.zip flashing process possible ,though I don't know how to do one , I won't be able to make this thing possible.If any of you wants to help me , shoot me with a PM .
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Please keep me in the loop and let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.

coldheater said:
Please keep me in the loop and let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.
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Well I think I was pretty clear by saying I need a Updater-Script that's where I need help

blinqipa said:
Well I think I was pretty clear by saying I need a Updater-Script that's where I need help
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hopefully soon.

blinqipa said:
Well I think I was pretty clear by saying I need a Updater-Script that's where I need help
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still no update?

coldheater said:
still no update?
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Nope ,unfortunately .Rather than looking here ,seek for help out in other communities ,seems like there are no enthusiastic developers who will do this /devs or other users have less interest in such things .

blinqipa said:
Nope ,unfortunately .Rather than looking here ,seek for help out in other communities ,seems like there are no enthusiastic developers who will do this /devs or other users have less interest in such things .
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already have, thanks. Just checking to see if u had an updated. If I find out anything, i'll post here.

Nexus 6 Notifications

One of my last hang ups on getting the Nexus 6 is how it will handle notifications. I know it will have Ambient Display, but from what I have been able to read, its not going to pulse like the Active Display of the normal Moto phones. Has anyone seen how the Nexus 6 will handle notifications yet?

This is exactly what I'm trying to find out, i keep checking all the unboxing and first hands on video and reviews
and they just keep talking about the size, specs and camera, i might have to pass on this nexus if it doesn't pulse in some form, i just can always keep picking up my phone check for a message.

Yep. If it doesn't pulse or blink or something, it will be a poor choice. Knowing you have a notification from across the room or in a dark room, is one of the things I like about 95% of Android phones.
The last phone I had without an LED light was the GS2, and I had to use other means.

It seems like such a simple request for anyone with the phone to check as well. Every unboxing and first impressions video I have watched (far too many) have all said that "it has moto x like notifications and that's a good thing" but every time they show the settings it doesn't indicate that it pulses or breathes. I was hoping that DL would have answered this question when they got their test units, but even they haven't yet.

I'm pretty sure Google knows it's silly to send a visible notification only once. I'm confident they've incorporated some form of pulse or renotification of some kind. Fingers crossed

In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.

Dr Faustus said:
In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
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Its definitely not the end of the world. I'm not being dramatic and condemning the phone if it doesn't have it. Just looking for an answer to what I hope Google realizes is a basic need. I've been rooting and roming since the OG Droid days here so I know what XDA can do, I just don't believe this is a feature that I should need to rely on the Devs here to create.

First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.

Nickcu13 said:
First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
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Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
G3

20degrees said:
Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
G3
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Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.

ABOsborn20 said:
Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
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The battery on the G watch is really great actually.
And if you don't want Android wear, don't buy it. But that's where Google is going so some features that used to be present on phones that aren't as necessary now will potentially be removed.

Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.

ECrispy said:
Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
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This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?

ABOsborn20 said:
This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.

ECrispy said:
Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
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Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...

Does anyone know if it has the IR sensors on the screen to wake the display up with a hand gesture just like it happens on the Moto X?

dualityim said:
Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
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Yes. It's in the comments, the author replied to a question about Active Display.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display

ABOsborn20 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
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Seems very unreliable, he had to try multiple times. Also why is pick up to activate so unreliable?
I really wish they'd copied the Moto version and added the sensors.

this seems like it will just nuke the battery in comparison to an LED.... I may end up just leaving this off.
won't this turn on constantly in a pocket as well?

Moto X Pro

Now that Moto is making a version of the Nexus 6 but with their software for China will it be possible to port moto assist/moto voice and display? It would be great if we could get these feature on the Nexus 6 and since this is identical in every way except for it not saying Nexus and having motos software tweaks.
Sources:
http://www.motorola.com.cn/moto-x-pro-cn.html
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2...ns-to-china-moto-x-moto-g-moto-x-pro.html?m=1

Crossing my fingers

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Crossing my fingers
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Maybe once its released we could get our hands on the ROM and flash if like some devices did to make the regular one a GPE.

I am hoping for better accessories also.

Pilz said:
...be possible to port moto assist/moto voice and display? It would be great if we could get these feature on the Nexus 6 and since this is identical in every way except for it not saying Nexus and having motos software tweaks.
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Aren't those basically the same as google now, google voice dictation, and ambient display?
I.e., Nexus 6 already has them...

doitright said:
Aren't those basically the same as google now, google voice dictation, and ambient display?
I.e., Nexus 6 already has them...
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No, the Moto ones are much better. Goto a carrier store and try Moto voice and display and then let me know if you still think they are the same. Ambient display isn't as good as the Moto one, and google now is nice (and used with moto voice) but you can't use custom commands with it.

My favorite thing about my wife's moto x is to be able to twist the phone twice to activate the camera. Theres some other cool features she has that I don't but that is by far my favorite

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My favorite thing about my wife's moto x is to be able to twist the phone twice to activate the camera. Theres some other cool features she has that I don't but that is by far my favorite
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The twist to activate camera is cool, I really like the moto display because its a better version of the ambient display on the Nexus even though the Moto has both. I wouldn't trade my Nexus for the Moto, I just want the Moto tweaks. I do like the voice commands and how you can make up any phrase to activate it (which can be funny sometimes depending on what you use)

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No, the Moto ones are much better. Goto a carrier store and try Moto voice and display and then let me know if you still think they are the same. Ambient display isn't as good as the Moto one, and google now is nice (and used with moto voice) but you can't use custom commands with it.
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Most of the internet agrees that ambient display is far nicer than motorola, actually showing you the notification instead of just the fact that there is one.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...-display-is-a-very-cool-take-on-moto-display/
What they say about not being able to use sensors (proximity/IR/motion) to refresh the ambient display is.... not entirely true. AOSP 5 does have ALL of this provision in the source code, but it has to be activated with an appropriate sensor (if available).
As for custom commands with google now... you really should look into this more, since there *are* ways to do that with google now. For example, tasker with autovoice.
As far as the quality of voice dictation goes, the google implementation (which probably uses the same backend) is pretty solid... as far as voice recognition goes.

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Most of the internet agrees that ambient display is far nicer than motorola, actually showing you the notification instead of just the fact that there is one.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...-display-is-a-very-cool-take-on-moto-display/
What they say about not being able to use sensors (proximity/IR/motion) to refresh the ambient display is.... not entirely true. AOSP 5 does have ALL of this provision in the source code, but it has to be activated with an appropriate sensor (if available).
As for custom commands with google now... you really should look into this more, since there *are* ways to do that with google now. For example, tasker with autovoice.
As far as the quality of voice dictation goes, the google implementation (which probably uses the same backend) is pretty solid... as far as voice recognition goes.
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I understand where you are coming from but some people including myself prefer the Moto display. I don't care if I can't gesture over it, I just like the way the Moto Display looks compared to the ambient one. If it could work without the added sensors (which it will since the X Pro will likely have this) then I'm fine with that.
I know there are ways to implement the custom voice commands, however its more natural the way that its done on the X. I have tried some other alternatives but I wasn't a fan of them. The Nexus 6 has a low power chip for active listening if I recall correctly so this shouldn't be a issue if and when we can port those features over.
I also wouldn't say that the "majority of people prefer the ambient display" we can't generalize things like that because after all statistics can be very bias and wrong if they are not collected correctly. I have seen reviews including AP (android police) who stated they liked the Moto version better, but again its user preference.
I'm not saying you are wrong at all, I would just prefer the Moto tweaks on my Nexus phone because I like them.

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I understand where you are coming from but some people including myself prefer the Moto display. I don't care if I can't gesture over it, I just like the way the Moto Display looks compared to the ambient one. If it could work without the added sensors (which it will since the X Pro will likely have this) then I'm fine with that.
I know there are ways to implement the custom voice commands, however its more natural the way that its done on the X. I have tried some other alternatives but I wasn't a fan of them. The Nexus 6 has a low power chip for active listening if I recall correctly so this shouldn't be a issue if and when we can port those features over.
I also wouldn't say that the "majority of people prefer the ambient display" we can't generalize things like that because after all statistics can be very bias and wrong if they are not collected correctly. I have seen reviews including AP (android police) who stated they liked the Moto version better, but again its user preference.
I'm not saying you are wrong at all, I would just prefer the Moto tweaks on my Nexus phone because I like them.
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I'm mostly on board with you. I like the ambient display looks vs moto display but I wish the screen wouldn't light up fully when interacting with the notification. In my opinion it totally defeats the purpose of having it black and white. Ambient display is inconsistent in which sometimes it doesn't come up. Moto display is the better functioning of the two.

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I'm mostly on board with you. I like the ambient display looks vs moto display but I wish the screen wouldn't light up fully when interacting with the notification. In my opinion it totally defeats the purpose of having it black and white. Ambient display is inconsistent in which sometimes it doesn't come up. Moto display is the better functioning of the two.
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Don't forget moto display with moto assist has a night mode which went light up the screen when you're sleeping or in a movie. Of course you could use priority notifications but this is more convenient in my opinion.

I'd love to see APT-X ported to N6 ...

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I'd love to see APT-X ported to N6 ...
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I thought you needed the chip to support it?

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My favorite thing about my wife's moto x is to be able to twist the phone twice to activate the camera. Theres some other cool features she has that I don't but that is by far my favorite
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I am using an app that is still in beta called "QuickCamera". I have been using it since the Nexus 5, and it seems to work pretty well on the Nexus 6. As a matter of fact, the camera opens up much faster on the N6 than the N5 did.
Here is the link to the G+ community for this beta:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/102812968500461027770
EDIT: I just found the XDA thread on this app also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732021

PaisanNYC said:
I am using an app that is still in beta called "QuickCamera". I have been using it since the Nexus 5, and it seems to work pretty well on the Nexus 6. As a matter of fact, the camera opens up much faster on the N6 than the N5 did.
Here is the link to the G+ community for this beta:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/102812968500461027770
EDIT: I just found the XDA thread on this app also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732021
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Looks like the either the developer or Google has removed this app from the play store. Can anybody post a link to the .apk please.

Mayze23 said:
Looks like the either the developer or Google has removed this app from the play store. Can anybody post a link to the .apk please.
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Neither removed it. You have to sign up with the community, then click on the link to join the beta, and wait for it to show up for you in the Play Store (some show up in minutes, one or two took over an hour to show up after joining both). This is how pretty much all of betas through the Play Store are handled. I just checked and put screenshots attached to this post.

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I'd love to see APT-X ported to N6 ...
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Has aptX been confirmed for the Moto X Pro?

Is this phone available yet? I was hoping the some devs could get the Motorola stuff working on the Nexus 6

biggiestuff said:
Is this phone available yet? I was hoping the some devs could get the Motorola stuff working on the Nexus 6
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No I just checked their Chinese webpage and it's not available yet