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Any hacks to make the camera take better pictures?

I've tried all the settings and resolution. I find 640 X 480 to be the clearest. Still pictures are clear. Anything moving in the picture is a blurry mess. Is there a registry hack that improves clearity?

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Wow, an 18 minute speedbump
Please clarify what you have tried, my Crystal Ball is away for Calibration.
(Or do you expect a 300 $ camera in a 600 $ mobile? )
Did you both try the "reaction time" tweaks that are available in Advanced Config ?

this is coming from a photographer. Blurry objects are caused by moving objects in a low light environment. When trying to capture light in a room with poor lightning the camera shutter will stay open longer to capture enough lights for the exposure. This can be corrected by bumping up the ISO or apenture. Since this cannot be done by the camera on the Fuze you can always turn Flash on to compensate for the low light or resting your elbows on a desk for more steady position

karloe said:
Wow, an 18 minute speedbump
Please clarify what you have tried, my Crystal Ball is away for Calibration.
(Or do you expect a 300 $ camera in a 600 $ mobile? )
Did you both try the "reaction time" tweaks that are available in Advanced Config ?
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I'm coming from devices like the Sanyo M1 (2MP Auto Focus, the best camera phone ever on Sprint), Mogul (2MP decent pictures) and Treo 800 (2MP, really nice pics). All I'm asking is for the blurry pics to be better. I took 20 pics yesterday and 18 of them were blurry. I've tried every resolution setting. Like I mentioned earlier it seems L 640 X 480 pictures seem to be better than the higher settings.

Buy SonyEricsson and you get a camera that can be actually used for something...

Mine takes pretty good pictures, do you hold the capture button to allow the auto focus to do its work and then take teh picture without having much movement. The movement is what i found causes the blurriness. I guess it autofocuses on a spot and then when you move it start refocusing but the picture takes anyway?
BTW my sports and burst mode arent working properly, camera freezes up and have to soft reset. Is the 3mp tweak for these modes to much for the CPU to process

Yes, I hold and press which autofocus then snaps. I understand it something in the picture is moving but every pic? That's not normal. I've been taking pictures with phones for years and never ran into an issue like this. Plus this is suppose to be a really advanced 3.2MP camera. Might have taken a step backwards with this one.

One thing I do is turn the brightness down as far as the camera will let me, this really isn't a brightness control but a shutter speed control, lowering the brightness raises the shutter speed, which allows for faster camera response.
I think the problem is probably mostly that the sensor used in our module has an imaging area of 3.61mm*2.72mm, 4.52mm diagonal.. take a look at the chart here for imaging sensor sizes: http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Camera_System/sensor_sizes_01.htm
Notice how the size of our sensor is below the bottom of the chart.. It's often said that a camera with superior MPixel count will lose to a camera with an inferior MPixel count and a superior sensor.. well, our sensor isn't big enough to be able to take really nice 3.2mpix photos.. without ideal conditions. Then there's that whole thing about using a CMOS sensor rather than a CCD sensor..
One thing I think the camera can do better is that it doesn't seem to be operating in progressive-scan mode.. there's noticable tearing all over the place..

VibrantRedGT said:
I've tried all the settings and resolution. I find 640 X 480 to be the clearest. Still pictures are clear. Anything moving in the picture is a blurry mess. Is there a registry hack that improves clearity?
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You can remove the back cover of your phone and take a picture... it does make it better.

pandaboyy said:
You can remove the back cover of your phone and take a picture... it does make it better.
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I think that is somewhat incorrect. For TYNT II and older phones, yes that would work, since it has a plastic cover over the camera. But for the touch pro and the diamond, it should make little to no difference. I've tried it, and I don't see much of a difference, since it's just a hole. Not covered with plastic or anything.

I had the blurry photos problem too. I just tried it and I haven't played with it enough to confirm this fixes the problem (it seems like it reduces the problem but doesn't eliminate it) but try this:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam/
and set
CaptureTimer = 0 (old=5000)
tell me if you see a difference
Two more things to do - go into the camera advanced settings (in the camera itself) and turn off the click sounds and set the review time to no limit. With those two and the change above I think I have a working camera here...

have you done the "white balance" tweak in your settings? it completely gets rid of that yellow look when you take pics indoors. Also theres rumors saying that turning off the shutter sound increases the camera's quality but I cant prove that

bugsykoosh said:
I had the blurry photos problem too. I just tried it and I haven't played with it enough to confirm this fixes the problem (it seems like it reduces the problem but doesn't eliminate it) but try this:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/Captparam/
and set
CaptureTimer = 0 (old=5000)
tell me if you see a difference
Two more things to do - go into the camera advanced settings (in the camera itself) and turn off the click sounds and set the review time to no limit. With those two and the change above I think I have a working camera here...
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I will try that registry hack.

Here's the 'yellow photo' fix if anyone hasn't seen it yet: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=951

I think what most people are looking for with regards to photos is not 100% 9mp quality from our phones. I mean, why can't a fix similar to the Tilt's be made?* All I want is a higher FPS in low light conditions.
*Where you can increase FPS (in low light) by running the camera, turning the phone off, covering the lens, then turning the phone back on...

How to make a sharp pitcure:
EDIT: See new post! This one has been erased to avoid confusion.

I tried those tweaks with no success. Pics aren't as blurry but they are pretty crappy. I'm not saying I want 10MP clearity. I just want this camera to be compariable to the devices I previously owned (Sanyo M1 and Treo 800). Right now it's not. I'm going to exchange this device.

Errrr Sorry I stated the wrong registry key. Actually that one does not matter too much. UPDATED version:
1. Change registry key:
- HKLM\software\htc\camera\captparam\Capkeydelaytime = 10
2. Soft reset to activate the hack.
3. Set the capture key of the camera to hold & press.
To make a photo:
- Aim at subject.
- Hold your finger on the round big enter key and wait until the white "[" "]" go green. This might need a slight "touch".
- Shoot by pressing the round big enter key fully.

The problem you're going to run into is the size of the sensor on cell phones in general. You could have a 10mp cameraphone but if they keep the sensor the same size it is now the pix will continue to be crappy.
I will say that the pictures I've taken with my Fuze have been pretty good, and I have really bad shakes in my hands. The autofocus is a huge step forward imo.

[Foto] How To Upgrade Camera Performance

Hello guys. I am new with my milestone here and I have an important question if you have some ideas about it. However my previous phone (google G1) had 3.2 mp camera built in, its photos were quite better than my milestone which has 5 MP with flash light! I am very disapointed with its camera performance. Is this something about software and development or something about its camera lens?
Its photos are full of gren and noise in it and deffintly doesnt seem to be a 5 mpx.

Hi I have the same question. the photos has noise and I think is better my last g1.
any ideas??

Try charge your battery full if using flash.

anthonyuni said:
Hi I have the same question. the photos has noise and I think is better my last g1.
any ideas??
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same here, I came from X10i (best in camera) and really i feel the difference

bijixda said:
Try charge your battery full if using flash.
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It has nothing to do with battery because photos are bad even in full daylight! I hope this is something about firmware and can be fixed with some new software , Unless i will sell this phone.

I have also not'ced that camera flash light of this phone is not working proper when battery goes lower than 30-40 and its a shame when its night time your battery has to be higher than 50 if you want to use flash light.. But there is something weird with this because of this flash light brightes and shines so strong even battery goes low when you half press shutter button for the auto focus. then when you press for taking the photo then it wont flashes up like before. REALLY WEIRD.. I am gonna sell this odd phone. Unless those stupid mistakes wont be fixed by 2.2 upgrade. hopefully soon..

Can I ask to poeple who upgraded their droid to 2.2 is there any difference at camera performance on your droid after update ??

To be honest there is not a difference in camera performance. That all varies between the lighting and zoom level of the camera. I have noticed the grain side of the photos, however I have had some great clear photos taken with the phone as well. The video quality IMO is superb for the phone. Even before the 2.2 update I did, the pictures turned out great despite some showing a little bit of grain.

The megapixel number means nothing, and actually for a given physical sensor size (IE the ones that fit in phones) a higher MP number will mean ****tier pictures.
The performance is just how it's going to be.

I use 360 Camera Pro with low ISO Speed (100) and High IS Sensitivity. My photos come out looking like this: http://i.imgur.com/U9PAx.jpg

Beako said:
I use 360 Camera Pro with low ISO Speed (100) and High IS Sensitivity. My photos come out looking like this: http://i.imgur.com/U9PAx.jpg
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well I tried to take the same photos with both stock camera program and camera 360 program, and my results were not far different from eachother but 360 photos were a bit better. Camera 360 photos were about 3-4 MB, but droids itself photos were 1 MB. I can say the MB difference didnt reflect the picture quality. they were almost same quality. so no need to use 3 times more space for ordinary photos.

I changed my camera application.
I now use the app: Pro Zoom Camera 5X
And that worked for me.
It takes better pictures.
Dont know all the reasons.
But 1 major reason for me is,
With the original, you half press the camera key to focus, then full press to take the picture.
This creates movement when taking the picture.
With the app i'm using,
you press full ones, it then focuses and takes the picture.
but you can also use the volume button, which is an easier key to press full.
or you can just tap the screen.
For me it made a huge difference.
Though,.. still not as good as we want it to be

anheuer said:
I changed my camera application.
I now use the app: Pro Zoom Camera 5X
And that worked for me.
It takes better pictures.
Dont know all the reasons.
But 1 major reason for me is,
With the original, you half press the camera key to focus, then full press to take the picture.
This creates movement when taking the picture.
With the app i'm using,
you press full ones, it then focuses and takes the picture.
but you can also use the volume button, which is an easier key to press full.
or you can just tap the screen.
For me it made a huge difference.
Though,.. still not as good as we want it to be
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I am not sure if the only problem was half shutter vibration on the photo problem. it seems more than that. To me It can be fixed with some software improvments but im not sure how much can it be good with new software.. Does anyone know which brand or what kind of lenses does motorola uses for milestone?

Beako said:
I use 360 Camera Pro with low ISO Speed (100) and High IS Sensitivity. My photos come out looking like this
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Thank You for sharing this info. I will try it myself.

Camera Pro mode not updating the preview

Hi, I bought a P9 that is yet to arrive but the other day I was using my friends P9 and wanted to try the camera in pro mode (which is the mode that I use the most on my phones) and I noticed that after some speeds, when playing with shutter speed, the viewfinder image just stops updating the amount of light that should enter ie. I'm indoors with artificial light and if I set the speed to the fastest posible the viewfinder does not go black (and it stops showing the differences in lightning way before the fastest shutterspeed). Same goes the other way, if I set the speed to a ver very low one the viewfinder does not end up looking white, so it makes this feature useless cause the only way I have to see if I'm using the correct speed is to take the shot and then open the picture to see if it was the correct speed. I noticed this happening also in the Huawei Mate 8. I'm used to the LG G4 wich every step of the shutter speed shows a difference in lightning in the image your watching. Is there a way to fix this? does this happend with every Huawei phone? I haven't got the phone yet but I'm already thinking of selling it and getting an S7

I am also coming from an LG G4 and found the lack of feedback in terms of how much light I get by changing different setting, as I major drawback. To answer your question: yes, all Huawei phones seem to lack this feature. The only option is to take a shoot at that setting and adjust back and forth, per the exposure you see on the picture taken.

Co5min said:
I am also coming from an LG G4 and found the lack of feedback in terms of how much light I get by changing different setting, as I major drawback. To answer your question: yes, all Huawei phones seem to lack this feature. The only option is to take a shoot at that setting and adjust back and forth, per the exposure you see on the picture taken.
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thanks a lot, I'm really going to miss G4's camera app along with it camera quality so I think I'm gonna sell the p9 as soon as I get it and get an S7, the pro mode in a camera is way too important to me to withstand this Huawei bug like behavior =/

If you lock the shutter speed, then by changing to different ISO values you get a good feedback on the live screen related how much light gets in. But unfortunately does not work the other way around which is equally important, to lock the ISO and play with shutter speed. So it`s a half of drawback but still annoying.

camera question

Dears,
There's a weird thing record video it records for 5 minutes or 10 which is frustrating because you can't always tell when the recording stopped. It's there a way to change this? Btw I've only tried recording on 4k 30 fps & and 60 fps. Why use 1080 when you have 4k. Please help. Is there a setting I need to change?

angvil said:
Dears,
There's a weird thing record video it records for 5 minutes or 10 which is frustrating because you can't always tell when the recording stopped. It's there a way to change this? Btw I've only tried recording on 4k 30 fps & and 60 fps. Why use 1080 when you have 4k. Please help. Is there a setting I need to change?
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4K and 60fps are limited to 10 minutes. If you want to record longer you have to switch to 1080p.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
4K and 60fps are limited to 10 minutes. If you want to record longer you have to switch to 1080p.
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Yup. Need to limit it. Otherwise your phone will overheat.

For clearer list of limits:
4K @ 60 = 5 minutes
4K @ 30 = 10 minutes
FHD @ 60 = 10 minutes
Super slow motion has limit of 0.4 seconds per snippet, and, at most 20 such clips per recorded video (depends on the settings). (Although at least the Samsung/ca-site still thinks its 0.2 seconds.)
The funny thing is, while FHD @ 60fps has 10 minutes limit, the slow motion mode (FHD @ 240fps) has no limit (at least no limit shown on the display like for the three limited modes), and that mode would have the highest input pixel rate of all the modes. Yet no overheating / time limit with it? Go figure
Can one immediately continue with another 5 or 10 minute clip, giving no time for cooling down? I have not tried, but I haven't read about any limits on immediate restart, either. Also, if overheating is the reason, then ambient temperature should reduce all those limits (unless they are already based on the worst case, which would sound quite a stupid design decision, because the worst case can be quite a bit nastier (say, 35C-40C) than a typical situation (~20-25C). So yeah, I don't quite buy that overheating yet.
However, whatever the reason, the limits are those. If they are too short, a real video camera might be the solution.

Thank you all for the replies it's just really annoying with the limits and I've not encountered heating issues yet and I've been restarting the recording for almost 40 minutes. Tried it in two different environments. 1 Jordan the middle east in heat. 2 the Philippines on the beach with humidity.

I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.

Phazonclash said:
I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.
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In 4K and/or 60fps?

As you know Samsung plays it safe now with overheating and battery issues. So you can't blame them for being cautious.
angvil said:
Thank you all for the replies it's just really annoying with the limits and I've not encountered heating issues yet and I've been restarting the recording for almost 40 minutes. Tried it in two different environments. 1 Jordan the middle east in heat. 2 the Philippines on the beach with humidity.
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Phazonclash said:
I record videos using a third party app. No time limits, and trust me, no overheating issues.
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Which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]? I tried probably all available apps. None of them allowed me to set [email protected] fps. They removed pro mode from official app, so there is no way to record 4k 60fps video with fixed iso/exposure. This phone is useless for video recording on pie.

rascal0pl said:
Which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]60fps? I tried probably all available apps. None of them allowed me to set [email protected] fps. They removed pro mode from official app, so there is no way to record 4k 60fps video with fixed iso/exposure. This phone is useless for video recording on pie.
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Afaik, they did not remove the [email protected] option, there are mentions of this even on this forum, but see also e.g.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/No-Video-Pro-Mode-after-S9-Update/td-p/458656
That is, they just failed badly with the user interface design.
However, the pro video mode was removed. That above thread seems to indicate that the Samsung's camera app is supposed to get the pro video mode back... some day.. maybe.. I believe it when I see it.
For the "which 3rd party app let you record [email protected]".. Since that Phazonclash' message is old (probably pre-Pie), and I am still on the old version, I think I can say this much (but NOTE: I have Exynos, Snapdragon versions had restrictions, like no 60fps):
Filmic Pro seems to allow recording at 4K 60fps, and after downloading the test snippet to PC, VLC claims H264 MPEG4 ACV1, 3840x2160, 60.005110fps, and about 200Mbit/s bitrate. So at least Filmic Pro could do it on Exynos with pre-Pie firmware. (Of course the encoding and quality/bitrates can be adjusted, but I just did a quick test with whatever other settings.)
Due to some bugs/things (mainly due to external mic activation quirk), I contacted Filmic recently, and they suggested that I'd stay with this earlier firmware, even though the external mic issue seems to have gotten fixed with/in Pie - they still have some other issues when running on Pie. And I'll indeed be delaying my update until Samsung can get its Pie version properly developed and past this real beta-testing period. So, I can't test if that Filmic Pro [email protected] situation would have changed to worse. And naturally, can't say anything for the Snapdragon variants.
See also: https://filmicpro.helpscoutdocs.com/article/41-samsung-s9-and-s9-filmic-pro-v6-compatibility-guide
That one reveals some of the things hampering the 3rd party apps. Some additional bits here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/using-s9-plus-filmic-pro-zhiyun-smooth-t3847010
Even with those restrictions, I wouldn't call the phone "useless" for video recording (in general); quite the great movies have been done with systems far less capable than even the restricted Snapdragon variants. But the lack of fixed exposure etc. sure limits a lot, even more than the lack of 60fps.

6thtry said:
Afaik, they did not remove the [email protected] option, there are mentions of this even on this forum, but see also e.g.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/No-Video-Pro-Mode-after-S9-Update/td-p/458656
That is, they just failed badly with the user interface design.
However, the pro video mode was removed. That above thread seems to indicate that the Samsung's camera app is supposed to get the pro video mode back... some day.. maybe.. I believe it when I see it.
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I know about it, but when I can't set fixed exposure and iso it's like not being about to record at all for me, because auto mode for video is absolutely dreadful in literally every situation.
PS. my Note have Exynos CPU too.
Filmic Pro - tried their test app and it says that there's [email protected] support. I was about to buy it, but I hate paying for something without testing it first. I downloaded "patched" version and I wasn't able to set anything above 30fps. Even for lower resolutions (it was just greyed out). So this app is nothing but scummy scam. At least for Note 9 @ pie (but still, I don't know why their test app says that this mode is supported, this app is not cheap and they should release trial version - 1 day trial would be enough).

rascal0pl said:
PS. my Note have Exynos CPU too.
Filmic Pro - tried their test app and it says that there's [email protected] support. I was about to buy it, but I hate paying for something without testing it first. I downloaded "patched" version and I wasn't able to set anything above 30fps. Even for lower resolutions. So this app is nothing but scummy scam. At least for Note 9 @ pie (but still, I don't know why their test app says that this mode is supported, this app is not cheap and they should release trial version - 1 day trial would be enough).
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Yeah, trial version would be better, but the test app is still better than having no demo/test/trial at all (like with many other paid apps).
Note that the "patched" version could have been made from an earlier version, still having a repertoire of issues with S9/S9+/Note 9, and if not patched by oneself from original version, who knows what other changes have been made. I'd say it is quite unjustified to claim a software "scummy scam" on the basis of testing an unofficial version. Especially in a situation where Samsung's firmware is already known to be more than a bit messed up (not supporting this or that, some things behaving differently than expected, etc.).
I'm not saying that the current official version wouldn't have any issues, on the contrary, it even crashes at times for me (I think related to external mic stuff, but, could also be a fault in the firmware).
However, I can say that it certainly is not a "scummy scam". I did buy it, after reading plenty about it, and have since used it a bit, e.g. recording few presentations. Seems to work quite well in general. Though I dislike some of its UI design, somewhat inconvenient for certain things. And its user manual still doesn't even seem to know about Android (thus settings are listed and explained as for iPhone only).
That it has problems with Note 9 (S9/S9+) with Pie (and also some issues before Pie) seems to be caused mostly (but not only) by Samsung restricting things deliberately and providing broken camera APIs for third parties to use.
But I also think Filmic should tell more openly about issues on these phones if using Pie at the time being, instead of only mentioning "Samsung S9 and Note9: better compatibility with Android Pie.". Which, while true (better than before does not mean that it is not without serious issues), seems to be quite misleading compared to the full current state of things (and they know about that).
All in all, those who have already updated to Pie might be SOL (for the time being, at least), but mostly due to Samsung having buried its head in its own ***. It is already known what the hardware can/could do (and might be able to do even more than what is already known), and if the APIs and firmware worked correctly and without deliberate restrictions, there would be plenty of apps utilizing it all, making Samsung's own camera app look like a poor exercise.

Slow shutter speed for low light doesn't work. (US version Huawei Mate 10 Pro)

I'm using the latest version for Huawei Mate 10 Pro. It's the US version with single sim. Model is BLA-A09.
I usually do low light photography on my other phone using like 1-30 seconds shutter speed with a tripod. I tried doing this with latest software update on the Huawei Mate 10 Pro. Manual mode doesn't seem to see any difference
I tried using auto on shutter speed with ISO 50 and notice it would be capped at 1/12. Cover the lense for complete darkness it will stay at 1/12. Also aim the camera towards the light to test if the auto work and it would increase the speed to 1/48 .
I really want shutter speed slower than 1/12. The options are there but they don't work.

Use Pro mode.

Auto mode will note give you a shutter speed slower than 1/10 of a second. Use Pro mode instead and make sure to properly set iso and shutter speed

Sorry I meant I already did Pro mode with manual settings. That's what I said earlier.
I notice the 1/12 or slower is the same. No matter how long the shutter time is it will look the same as 1/12. Picture should be brighter with 30 seconds but it looks the same as 1/12.
Huawei phone is still dark at 30 seconds and Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe settings at 32 seconds is very bright. My Canon EOS 5d Mark II easily does the same thing.

Well, that's not right. 4 second shutter time overexposes of it's not very dark.