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Need advice on what to do.

Just bought a Tmo HD7 today and need some help on what to do with it. It seems that if I go and update the phone that if I ever want to throw a custom rom I would need to downgrade then upgrade again..sooo I was wondering if I should just update from Msoft or I should put a custom rom on already.
I also need help on a Tut if I do a custom rom because it is a little weird on the wording or I cant seem to understand. I also cant find the sticky for noobs to put a custom rom.
Thanks again guys.

I checked my bootloader and its a 1.xx .
I have been reading lots of comments and lots of people say that if you have an HD2 then you should stick with that.
I was wondering if I should take the phone back since it seems to be very closed sourced compared to the old Win-Mo phones.

there is a tutorial on how to do all that stickied on this thread. link is in my signature.

Thanks for some reason I couldnt find that one but it is really laid out thank you.
One more question: Is the phone worth it? I mean is the community going to have a long life or is it going to have a short one since it is so closed. I would like to keep the phone since it looks nice but if I cant really do anything with it I'll just stick with my HD2.

grifter024 said:
Thanks for some reason I couldnt find that one but it is really laid out thank you.
One more question: Is the phone worth it? I mean is the community going to have a long life or is it going to have a short one since it is so closed. I would like to keep the phone since it looks nice but if I cant really do anything with it I'll just stick with my HD2.
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welcome.
well, all first generation WP7 phones are supposed to get the Apollo update...
so, yeah, i would say it has another official year or so.

bootloader locked bs....

I think this is bs. No roms,no nothing for this damn phone still. Its been months and no progress. I am not a developer and yes i complaining. Nobody can say that the bootloader is locked down or its because of kitkat... look at the g2 the g3 its insane with how much roms there is. I dont believe anything or anyone saying the bootloader is locked....A BUNCH OF BS!!!. I am going to look into developing for this phone because we are at a standstill for far too long. Gonna install linux on my computer when i have free time and atart putting in work.

podagee said:
I think this is bs. No roms,no nothing for this damn phone still. Its been months and no progress. I am not a developer and yes i complaining. Nobody can say that the bootloader is locked down or its because of kitkat... look at the g2 the g3 its insane with how much roms there is. I dont believe anything or anyone saying the bootloader is locked....A BUNCH OF BS!!!. I am going to look into developing for this phone because we are at a standstill for far too long. Gonna install linux on my computer when i have free time and atart putting in work.
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Feel exactly the same.
This phone is like a king among phones, but a king who is in exile
Even with stock this phone is simply outstanding and I'm sure LG will update it to lollipop
But it needs lots of developer love for sure
I'm also learning how to develop, just for the love of this device
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Not by any means a developer, but I'm pretty tech savvy and know a few languages, so if i can help in any way let me know. I want to get this ball rolling!

We are gonna need some help from mattwheat also. Busy this weekend but will check out some things soon....

Guys the bootloader is definitely locked down tighter than sh#!. But there is a work around. I.e. "BUMP"
With the Flex 2 now out I figured all hope WS gone for this device. If I knew more or had the time to learn like I used to have we would be rockin some AOKP, RESERECTION, OR some CM-12 based ROM.
I used to be on night shift for years and had all the time in the world after work (hence my 3am and 4am post). But I've left that company to start a new job that is now day shift. Which allows me more time with my son. But cuts into the amount of time I used to have. But I wouldn't change it for the world. But I will help anytime I can. But I think by summer I may move to either the Nexus 6 or the Flex 2 <--- only if the boot loader is unlockable like the LG G3 is.

It is a shame about the boot loader. Gave the flex to my daughter and moved on to the
Nexus 6 and have no regrets.

Great news cm12 incoming.check out lg-devs at github

Got 4.4.2 ZVB Rooted w/ TWRP 2.8.0.0 w/bump so if you need a tester i'll be scoping the forums, if you need a tester!
Sent from my LG-LS995 Keep on Flexin!

http://opensource.lge.com/osList/list?m=Mc001&s=Sc002
The 995 is on this list......

sickkside13 said:
Great news cm12 incoming.check out lg-devs at github
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Can't find anything on it... Provide link please?

XDAkilla757 said:
Can't find anything on it... Provide link please?
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https://github.com/lg-devs?tab=repositories
It's about as old as this thread. This phone needs a developer willing to spend some time. Start a CM bounty thread and see where that goes

Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
https://github.com/lg-devs?tab=repositories
It's about as old as this thread. This phone needs a developer willing to spend some time. Start a CM bounty thread and see where that goes
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Since it is rootable and a custom recovery can be installed. It should be a near walk in the park for the devs.

Where are all the ROMS?

The official MM ROMS has been out for a few days now and no new ROMS. What's going on?

khader2 said:
The official MM ROMS has been out for a few days now and no new ROMS. What's going on?
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Well. Do a little reading, learn how to do it, and I'm sure that you can put one out in a few days. :laugh:
An Impatient man is the gravediggers friend"

Pinan said:
Well. Do a little reading, learn how to do it, and I'm sure that you can put one out in a few days. :laugh:
An Impatient man is the gravediggers friend"
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I wish there were more guides and how to's or I would be. I can never find anything that seems up to date

I hear the op's frustration - I feel it too and yes patience is required. We don't have a large amount of Dev's available and they have lives. This is all done for free. If you prefer more active development, I'd suggest a Nexus device next round which is the route I may take due to locked bootloaders and such

glensta said:
I hear the op's frustration - I feel it too and yes patience is required. We don't have a large amount of Dev's available and they have lives. This is all done for free. If you prefer more active development, I'd suggest a Nexus device next round which is the route I may take due to locked bootloaders and such
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Agreed!
Were lucky to have the devs we have at all, we gotta remember as badass as our phone still is... it's already a 2 year old phone and devs among other people switch phones all the time.
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Devs switching phones is a big problem with older devices for sure. I'm not sure how many devs stuck it out waiting for the official MM to drop honestly.
I myself was all psyched for the note 7 since my note 4 is almost paid for now, but with a locked bootloader and no root I may to look elsewhere for my next device.

Check the section again and Overdrive just posted stock rom with mods available for it. And it's not that easy to start making roms when you get a software.
Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-maximum-ovrdrive-6-0-1-mm-beta-4-13-t3358326

Lol i read and research everything for a couple days before even flashing stock. I would hate to make a mistake and turn my phone into a frisbee... or worse yet... UNROOTABLE:silly:

khader2 said:
The official MM ROMS has been out for a few days now and no new ROMS. What's going on?
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Unless that was some bone dry sarcasm, you answered your own question (bold text in your quote). For the sake of clarification, the talented, generous devs who have immeasurably improved our Note 4 experience owe you nothing. You've paid money, likely a great deal of it, to Samsung/T-mobile and it took them 10 months to deliver an update. What have you contributed to the developers who use their own free time to work extremely hard and freely share the fruits of their labor (which puts the aforementioned profit-driven entities to shame) that entitles you to expect a custom fine-tuned ROM within "a few days"?
If you want to run MM the stock ROM is finally ready and waiting. You can even do so with root access and customize it to the extent of your ability... again thanks to the most valuable members of this community who receive little if anything more than our appreciation and respect in return.
There will be custom TW MM ROMs when and if developers are ready to take time out of their busy lives to create and release them. Whenever that happens to be, the members who participate and contribute what they can to this community will be extremely appreciative. Thankfully the group here is a friendly and helpful bunch. This subforum would be a ghost town if more shared the entitled attitude in this insulting joke of a topic. Waiting 10 months after release for a $$ "flagship" to be updated to the current OS by a company who wants you to continue paying them money is something to be upset about. Waiting... however long for a generous developer to rip that update apart and fine-tune it into something that they're willing to share with a (mostly...) supportive community is not.

I feel people took the OP a little too serious. I've been camping the forums for custom MM Roms since MM was released. Lucky the Note 4 is still popular and Samsung locking devices and making crappy changes has made a lot of Note 4 users not upgrade.

Hawkhell said:
I feel people took the OP a little too serious. I've been camping the forums for custom MM Roms since MM was released. Lucky the Note 4 is still popular and Samsung locking devices and making crappy changes has made a lot of Note 4 users not upgrade.
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Perhaps because you and the OP are still unfamiliar with the culture here on xda and the hard work and complete selflessness exhibited by developers in practically donating hours upon hours of their time.
To try and catch you up: you don't ask for eta's, you don't display any form of entitlement, and you don't complain development (Basically just be respectful). Camp forums all you want but don't waste forum space unless you have a legitimate question, comment, or contribution.
Furthermore, anyone that eager for development should never buy anything other than nexus. And even in nexus forum, the above guidelines should still be followed.

waiting

they are all in the official note 4 snapdragon thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev
if the data doesnt work u just apply the datafix http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/marshmallow-6-0-1-ports-data-fixes-t3379978
so pretty much find rom, download rom, apply datafix (if needed), enjoy!
NOTE/BEWARE******just dont flash any bootloaders/modems/recoveries from there.
happy flashing!

XeoNoX said:
they are all in the official note 4 snapdragon thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev
if the data doesnt work u just apply the datafix http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/marshmallow-6-0-1-ports-data-fixes-t3379978
so pretty much find rom, download rom, apply datafix (if needed), enjoy!
NOTE/BEWARE******just dont flash any bootloaders/modems/recoveries from there.
happy flashing!
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Are we able to run international kernels?
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JDM Civic EG8 said:
Are we able to run international kernels?
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most of them will say works with 910t specifically, but in my testing if found that over 90% of the N910F
ROMS works on the 910T and if they dont work they just need the data fix patch ......
as far as kernels just make sure that the kernel is 910f compatible and match the android version correcttly
EXAMPLE:
v5.1.1 with v5.1.1
v6.0 with v6.0
v6.0.1 with v6.0.1
NOT v6.0 with v6.0.1 (this may or may not work, if it does't youll have to reflash the rom or odin back to stock)

Note 8 has no root or custom firmwares?

Does it have, got my Note 8 a week ago but just wondering has I have not seen anykind of movement for the US variant.

all sorts of threads and posts answer your questions..

Just search, do not be lazy

Oh wow, thanks before posting I searched and found nothing only for older versions using SamFail. Thanks anyways loooool glad to see a gooood comunity

PLUS I said that I didn't saw any kind of movement

@atrix_noob What firmware are you running ?

Alek7 said:
@atrix_noob What firmware are you running ?
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It's on 8.0 May 1 security patch.

atrix_noob said:
It's on 8.0 May 1 security patch.
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For the US 950U and 950U1 snapdragon there is no root for the May update. That is bootloader revision 4 and has no root at this time. Your best bet is to keep a eye on the samfail thread for updates.

If your past U3 were sol for now. I think theres only one guy working on a possible partial root. There are lots of apps for theming. Substranium and Good lock are great.

atrix_noob said:
Oh wow, thanks before posting I searched and found nothing only for older versions using SamFail. Thanks anyways loooool glad to see a gooood comunity
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Dude.
Just search around.
Don't give us the 'lmao such a good community, how about you go and suck it because I don't want to research' attitude.
It's not our fault you couldn't be bothered to check for any activity and read around.
Plus people are tired of having others ask the same question hundreds of others have asked related to root, it's all about searching or reading.
Don't you think if someone found a way to root the newest firmware there would be a lot more sites talking about it?
Sarcasm aside, no, there is no root for Oreo Bootloaders (U4). Only Nougat with U3 or below.

luisramon17 said:
Dude.
Just search around.
Don't give us the 'lmao such a good community, how about you go and suck it because I don't want to research' attitude.
It's not our fault you couldn't be bothered to check for any activity and read around.
Plus people are tired of having others ask the same question hundreds of others have asked related to root, it's all about searching or reading.
Don't you think if someone found a way to root the newest firmware there would be a lot more sites talking about it?
Sarcasm aside, no, there is no root for Oreo Bootloaders (U4). Only Nougat with U3 or below.
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Before posting I always use the search feature cause it's very usefull. Has you know there are multiple threads and forums and specifically a T-Mobile Model one and its pretty much dead. If YOU read above I said that I didn't see any kind of activity. Another one is that if you read more down below, I stated that all I could find is a SamFail one but it's pretty outdated. So I came here to the Questions & Answers area and posted this thread here to see if anyone had an idea of whats happening with the US models
I don't need for someone to come here and tell me
"Oh don't be lazy and use the search funtion"
Already stated on the first post. Sheesh
And yeah, thanks for the bootloader part.

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Before posting I always use the search feature cause it's very usefull. Has you know there are multiple threads and forums and specifically a T-Mobile Model one. If YOU read above I said that I didn't see any kind of activity. Another one is that if you read more down below, I stated that all I could find is a SamFail one but it's pretty outdated. So I came here to the Questions & Answers area and posted this thread here to see if anyone had an idea of whats happenind with the US models
I don't need for someone to come here and tell me " Oh don't be lazy and use the search funtion"
Alrready stated on the first post. Sheesh
And yeah, thanks for the bootloader part.
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The thing is theres not much firmware differences between models. They might have slight baseband changes but they're all based on the same thing. So root that would work on a Verizon Note8 would work on a T-Mobile Note8.
And yes, the only one we have is sadly the V3 for those unlucky to update.
And I imagine people would check the last section of the thread to be on standby since apparently theres a new exploit that might (or might not) help.
This is why I assumed you didn't check first, but since you did (I didn't see that part), I apologize.

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If your past U3 were sol for now. I think theres only one guy working on a possible partial root. There are lots of apps for theming. Substranium and Good lock are great.
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Thanks for the heads up, I really like the root and all that stuff. Especially for getting rid of all T-Mobile crap on the phone. I'm a person that chages phone alot but I think I'll be giving this guy an exchange for another phone lol. I literally don't last a month with a phone has I like to test other brands and models

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The thing is theres not much firmware differences between models. They might have slight baseband changes but they're all based on the same thing. So root that would work on a Verizon Note8 would work on a T-Mobile Note8.
And yes, the only one we have is sadly the V3 for those unlucky to update.
And I imagine people would check the last section of the thread to be on standby since apparently theres a new exploit that might (or might not) help.
This is why I assumed you didn't check first, but since you did (I didn't see that part), I apologize.
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Don't worry, I searched everywhere but nothing found. Sometimes you know, people spread rumors or someone may know of something that's been on progress but it doesn't come up on public threads.
I been rooting my phones literally ever since I had an Android phone and always do my reaserch before posting on forums, cause you know there's always the people that come and say "Use the search feature" and always try to avoid that.
And yeah, all I read about was on Nougat. So I'll just asume it's dead.

atrix_noob said:
Don't worry, I searched everywhere but nothing found. Sometimes you know, people spread rumors or someone may know of something that's been on progress but it doesn't come up on public threads.
I been rooting my phones literally ever since I had an Android phone and always do my reaserch before posting on forums, cause you know there's always the people that come and say "Use the search feature" and always try to avoid that.
And yeah, all I read about was on Nougat. So I'll just asume it's dead.
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You switch phones a lot too? Same, heh. Went from having a Note 4 to iPhone 8 Plus, then Note 8, then iPX, then back to Note 8 (cause drawing), but to be fair, I do miss a little of Apple.
To be fair, it's not dead (yet) since the Oreo update landed pretty recently, plus the only tool we had for making it possible got executed pretty much, so I'd give it a little time.
And that search feature situation is a fair point.

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For the US 950U and 950U1 snapdragon there is no root for the May update. That is bootloader revision 4 and has no root at this time. Your best bet is to keep a eye on the samfail thread for updates.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye on it

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You switch phones a lot too? Same, heh. Went from having a Note 4 to iPhone 8 Plus, then Note 8, then iPX, then back to Note 8 (cause drawing), but to be fair, I do miss a little of Apple.
To be fair, it's not dead (yet) since the Oreo update landed pretty recently, plus the only tool we had for making it possible got executed pretty much, so I'd give it a little time.
And that search feature situation is a fair point.
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Yeah, I have had literally all flagship phones by now except for the Huawei P20.
Last Apple Device I had was the iPX, very good device but the atmosphere of the OS makes it pretty boring to me and get bored at it pretty quickly has you can't make any changes to the look of it.
I got this Note 8, exchanged it for my iPX. The guy that maked the deal with me gave me around 200 bucks and the Note for the iPhone lol.
I love the Note 8, super fast and love the big screen.

Why I'm ready for Oreo...

Well I just want to vent with some fellow G5S plus owners and Phone modding enthusiasts . Well I too have lost my Volte and to have that annoyance fixed would be great , but most of all im ready for root again . Yes i know i can have it now but I went through a lot of trouble with research and trial and error to install Stock that would actually receive OTA updates . I purchased this device specifically to get back into an old hobby of customizing , Its listed as one of the best deals in price and easily modified and i find that to be true. The amount of development and support for this lower cost phone is impressive ! I would also like to thank all the developers who have worked hard in creating the support and customization. We have a saying in Texas "get off the toilet " i cant imagine what is taking MOTONOVA so long to get this done ! Anyway just wanted to complain and to say im ready for some customization. i havent had a modified device for 4 years prior to this purchase and only had a few months to enjoy playing around with modding it . Ive also had the thought that moto may not have another full blown firmware update for this device if its taking this long for oreo . Ok! done crying about this situation . Again thanks to the developers and forum regulars that are here for advice and direction for our device and to MOTO " get off the toilet " :laugh: :laugh: Oh and i wish no one would post that Oreo is rolling out until they have a screen shot of their device updated with it ! jS

Take it up with moto. Xda is hardly the place to rant about your impatience - it ain't gonna do ya any good here. Also won't do ya any good with moto, but that's your problem.

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Take it up with moto. Xda is hardly the place to rant about your impatience - it ain't gonna do ya any good here. Also won't do ya any good with moto, but that's your problem.
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Jeez Mr. Serious ! Does every Thread have to be someone Crying cause they jacked there device It was more of a statement of benevolence with my fellow G5S Plus users . Believe me Im not so foolish as to think it would make a difference . I do believe the word discussion is used to describe the topics here . This was merely to fellowship in in the obvious anguish in this impossibly long wait for the update and a round about way to say thanks to all that participate in this forum that would most certainly include you in thanks as i see your a senior member . Hell at least it wasnt another thread with false info about the update :laugh: Chill and take a break man !

Like another thread is needed from someone crying about why their toy doesn't get attention - which by the way, I do find most humorous. Problem is, even a good joke gets boring when you hear it enough.

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Like another thread is needed from someone crying about why their toy doesn't get attention - which by the way, I do find most humorous. Problem is, even a good joke gets boring when you hear it enough.
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You know what it is kinda funny I'm really not that worried about it .

You're not the only one. I am more than happy with nougat. Has just the options I use, best of all better performance and battery life than anything else out there. I don't fix what isn't broken.

Phazmos said:
You're not the only one. I am more than happy with nougat. Has just the options I use, best of all better performance and battery life than anything else out there. I don't fix what isn't broken.[/
Thats a very good point ! a lot of trade offs especially for performance could be the very reason in the delay . Who knows . Many times in life the most anticipated events lead to the greatest disappointments .
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Phazmos said:
You're not the only one. I am more than happy with nougat. Has just the options I use, best of all better performance and battery life than anything else out there. I don't fix what isn't broken.
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Well Im going to see what happens next month and if its another security patch im going to root again and play with stock as i normally do .

I'd rather wait extra time to get an update that is at least 95% stable and bug-free over an update with tons of bugs and issues.
Have some patience.

The whole point of xda is to go above and beyond just waiting for for the official release of anything , trust in the devs and rock on

1976sam said:
Well Im going to see what happens next month and if its another security patch im going to root again and play with stock as i normally do .
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Odds are good Oreo won't be till Sept. Moto appears to be following Google's rollout logic - that means 1 (at least) more beta/feedback/fix cycle, then release - maybe.

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The whole point of xda is to go above and beyond just waiting for for the official release of anything , trust in the devs and rock on
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Thats a rather enlightened comment . A point that is worth consideration.

is it true that oreo won't allow you to relock bootloader and will force a "bootloader unlocked" bootlogo ?

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is it true that oreo won't allow you to relock bootloader and will force a "bootloader unlocked" bootlogo ?
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I've not heard anything about that - from what I've seen of other Moto Oreo updates, as long as the firmware you're locking with is as new or newer than your bootloader, it should lock(e.g https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-relock-oreo-bootloader-to-stock-t3784621) . Of course, if you've updated to Oreo, that means you need the Oreo stock fastboot firmware to be leaked. Can I ask where you've heard that Oreo may block you from re-locking for Motorola devices?
Any older firmwares, including the ones we have available at the moment, may not work. There's also the caveats of re-locking not restoring your warranty and erasing your data during the process.

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I've not heard anything about that - from what I've seen of other Moto Oreo updates, as long as the firmware you're locking with is as new or newer than your bootloader, it should lock(e.g https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-relock-oreo-bootloader-to-stock-t3784621) . Of course, if you've updated to Oreo, that means you need the Oreo stock fastboot firmware to be leaked. Can I ask where you've heard that Oreo may block you from re-locking for Motorola devices?
Any older firmwares, including the ones we have available at the moment, may not work. There's also the caveats of re-locking not restoring your warranty and erasing your data during the process.
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I saw a video of a guy saying that we should not uldate to oreo because of that, it was a less than 10K suscriber channel so i can't say if it's a reliable source.. i'll edit when i find it

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I saw a video of a guy saying that we should not uldate to oreo because of that, it was a less than 10K suscriber channel so i can't say if it's a reliable source.. i'll edit when i find it
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Sounds like mere speculation.

1976sam said:
Sounds like mere speculation.
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It is in spanish (my main language)
YeahTutoriales video from 3 weeks ago, can't link sorry

M1810 said:
It is in spanish (my main language)
YeahTutoriales video from 3 weeks ago, can't link sorry
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The amount of rumor and innuendo surrounding this release has been bordering on the ridiculous. I think this thread has helped me realize that the update may not be so wonderful . Several opinions stated prior reminded me that the anticipation could just be a big let down . I really want the volte problem with my phone corrected but it actually works just fine with out it. I do have hope that it corrects some issues like why did the imei and volte disappear and will the same happen with oreo . Also I wish I could speak Spanish i live in west Tx and I have searched for private tutors but its surprisingly difficult to find such a person . A boot leg Rosetta stone would be awesome !!! jk on the boot leg part ..... sort of :laugh:

1976sam said:
The amount of rumor and innuendo surrounding this release has been bordering on the ridiculous. I think this thread has helped me realize that the update may not be so wonderful . Several opinions stated prior reminded me that the anticipation could just be a big let down . I really want the volte problem with my phone corrected but it actually works just fine with out it. I do have hope that it corrects some issues like why did the imei and volte disappear and will the same happen with oreo . Also I wish I could speak Spanish i live in west Tx and I have searched for private tutors but its surprisingly difficult to find such a person . A boot leg Rosetta stone would be awesome !!! jk on the boot leg part ..... sort of :laugh:
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Lol - half my family is Puerto Rican, took 2 years Spanish in high school, still have to get my mother to translate everything for me.

Phazmos said:
Lol - half my family is Puerto Rican, took 2 years Spanish in high school, still have to get my mother to translate everything for me.
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My Spanish teacher was so bad even kids that spoke Spanish failed the class !!