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So we have confirmation that superoneclick and aroot doesn't work on the new atrix update. If any dev will work on this please use this thread.
EDIT: Please don't comment on this thread anymore. Go to Ririal's v2 root method
I just updated and it does seem smoother to me. Might just stick with it.
please everyone, this thread is for getting root on the update. if you want to comment on the update itself, use my thread on the general forum
Not cool... so they locked the damn phone down even more.
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Not cool... so they locked the damn phone down even more.
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Maybe this is your first piece of electronics, but it's completely expected that everytime a software update for a piece of hardware is released, exploits are closed. Apple does it, Sony does it, Microsoft does, HTC does it, Motorola does it, Nokia does it...The list goes on.
This WAS EXPECTED. I always found it entertaining how whenever an update was released for my EVO the forum here on XDA would get absolutely flooded with people saying how they lost root NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THEY WERE WARNED! It could take 5 minutes, 5 hours, 5 days, 5 weeks, 5 years, or eternity for root to be regained after an update. There's no way to know.
any way of installing 3rd party non-market apps, like amazon appstore?
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Maybe this is your first piece of electronics, but it's completely expected that everytime a software update for a piece of hardware is released, exploits are closed. Apple does it, Sony does it, Microsoft does, HTC does it, Motorola does it, Nokia does it...The list goes on.
This WAS EXPECTED. I always found it entertaining how whenever an update was released for my EVO the forum here on XDA would get absolutely flooded with people saying how they lost root NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THEY WERE WARNED! It could take 5 minutes, 5 hours, 5 days, 5 weeks, 5 years, or eternity for root to be regained after an update. There's no way to know.
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No... this is not my first rodeo, but still uncool regardless.
I expected it too, but still a bit peeved they did it.
im sure it is the "5 min" to regain root (hopefully!!!)
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So we have confirmation that superoneclick and aroot doesn't work on the new atrix update. If any dev will work on this please use this thread.
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The update JUST came out. Not everyone who was accepted has even received the update yet. Be patient please.
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The update JUST came out. Not everyone who was accepted has even received the update yet. Be patient please.
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Pretty sure that's why he made the thread - we're being patient, just looking for someone to work on this fix. I'm ashamed I even posted on this comment, but if you're not going going to help fix it, you shouldn't be either....
Hey everyone, if you want to sideload apps just use the ADB INSTALL method it works for me.
I still have my root after update
Hello,
I just ran the update, it shows in the system version as 4.1.57 yet I still have my superuser permissions and can tether without adding to my plan. Not sure how or why, but it happened.
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Pretty sure that's why he made the thread - we're being patient, just looking for someone to work on this fix. I'm ashamed I even posted on this comment, but if you're not going going to help fix it, you shouldn't be either....
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I would be helping fix it if I had the update. I'm still waiting for the notification, but thanks The OP is just forum clutter, and it's pretty rude to be making these requests minutes after the update is even pushed, and a BETA update, at that. That was my point.
Where are you guys located, getting the update already. I just checked and it said mine is up to date and I still have 4.1.26. Wierd!
Does any one know how to get the message to stop showing up I don't want to loose root and I don't want to be reminded every hour
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Does any one know how to get the message to stop showing up I don't want to loose root and I don't want to be reminded every hour
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My update failed and I just didnt click on syste update again. Try a reboot
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Hello,
I just ran the update, it shows in the system version as 4.1.57 yet I still have my superuser permissions and can tether without adding to my plan. Not sure how or why, but it happened.
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Did you flash back to stock before the update or did you do the update on a rooted/gingerblured phone? Do you know if you were using 1.2.6 or 1.5.2? Have you tried running su in a terminal to make sure root actually works?
Was worried bout flashing without stock software already installed think ill go back to stock anyway to try it the official way first.. Can always go back and upgrade after rooted though if this works consistently.
The security hole that allowed for root on the phone is CLOSED in this update. There is no way of rooting your phone after this, save going back to one of the available SBFs. Confirmed by designgears as well.
As someone said earlier, "for now" the root method is disabled, and there is no way of rooting your phone after the update "at this moment".
I have confidence everything will be OK.
Boy am I glad I decided to stay away from this "update." I got accepted but when I go to check for updates it says I need a social networking account setup. When I then hit setup nothing happens so I said forget it lol.
Its hard for me to believe that no one on here works at or is friends with someone that works at a best buy Samsung experience store that has access to the S.M.A.R.T. TOOL used to flash samsung phones. If someone is able to get the software please share here. It would not only be valuable to those trying to update to kit kat but also anyone who has had problems updating even stock firmware that get the dreaded "update interrupted" message.
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samsung experience store don't even have the 4.4.2 fw yet
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samsung experience store don't even have the 4.4.2 fw yet
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No they don't .. but they have the ability the flash your phone back to stock firmware no matter what you have done to your phone in the past .. and without having to follow descriptive instructions to do it yourself via ODIN with multiple downloads.
I visited my local Samsung Booth at BestBuy .. I was one of the lucky ones that was constantly erroring out while trying to install the KK OTA .. Samsung flashed my phone back to NB4 without a bat in the eye .. within seconds of my phone rebooting, it re-started the NC2 KK OTA download .. rebooted, and complete success .. my progress bar on the installation past 27% .. full 100%, rebooted and now I am on FULL 4.4.2.
It would be of great value to our xda at&t Note3 community if we had this S.M.A.R.T. tool. I wonder if this is the "rumored" magical flash that supposedly reset the KNOX flag back to 0x0 from 0x1?
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But they have the ability the flash your phone back to stock firmware no matter what you have done to your phone in the past.
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The BB guy here showed me an internal memo that told them not to put software on a device that was below the version currently installed due to a large amount of devices being bricked. The wording is paraphrased but that's the crux of the memo. The AT&T Device Support Center here said pretty much the same thing after they took my phone in and realized I was on 4.4 and all they had to flash it with was 4.3.
I just talked to a guy at our best buy and he straight up talked to me about rooted phones. He said he's limited on what he can do but he can flash my phone to a fresh 4.3. He said they can flash your current firmware and up, but it wont go backwards. He also said they should get the update 4.4 in a couple weeks. He didn't care that my phone was rooted at all. He was just happy someone asked him questions.
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Real IT Tech! Real Fact!!
I visit BB yesterday to reflash my phone. The Samsung representative had issues logging on to smart tools. She actually showed me the screen on the laptop. She explained that she has to use her best buy login username and password that is assigned to her to login which was failing. No one in the store did know what the issue was. Since I told her I'm a IT professional she asked for my assistance. I verified SmartTool is the software that is required to flash all the current Samsung phones. The error message required that TLS is required to connect. She was using I.E. to login which was pretty simple access the I.E. settings and enabled it. Right afterwards she was successfully able to login to the Samsung Server. Even if you did have the tool its still usless. The tool is only used to access SAM server only. Plus the laptop she was using I'm sure is dmz or other words the MAC ID of the pc is registered on their firewall to even connected. So having this tool is irrelevant. A real Samsung guru knows Samsung has been using upgraded versions of this to flash it phones. BTW they currently have 4.4.2 available. It took only 7 minutes to flash my At&t Note 3 to Kitkat 4.4.2
Had mine flashed on the 5th trying as a last resort to solve a problem.
Little did I know they had nc2 now I am stuck on it and it did not fix the problem.
I've got deja vu of my motorola backflip lockdown days.
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Its hard for me to believe that no one on here works at or is friends with someone that works at a best buy Samsung experience store that has access to the S.M.A.R.T. TOOL used to flash samsung phones. If someone is able to get the software please share here. It would not only be valuable to those trying to update to kit kat but also anyone who has had problems updating even stock firmware that get the dreaded "update interrupted" message.
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It's nothing something someone is going to jeopardize their job for. The actual firmwares doesn't become available on Smart for actually a few days after the OTA update comes through anyways. Plenty of people come in wanting the update as soon as OTA pushes, but often the software doesn't have it yet.
Samsung tells SEC's to not reflash rooted devices. This is a liability issue because you could turn around and blame the SEC for whatever reason if the device bricks. You obviously knew what you were doing in the first place when rooting, so why bring it in really. Sammobile provides the same flashable files, so if you know enough, you should be able to do it yourself.
The SES is really there to support individuals learn and do light troubleshooting. Majority of the SEC workers are not even XDA savey. Smart is really simple, but majority of them do not know Odin or anything outside of what they're trained. So be careful who you hand your phone to. I see plenty of phones get wiped even when it was suppose to be a simple "update."
And no, Smart will not fix your Knox count. Smart can flash a rooted device to an OEM rom, but it will still show a tripped flash from before.
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It's nothing something someone is going to jeopardize their job for. The actual firmwares doesn't become available on Smart for actually a few days after the OTA update comes through anyways. Plenty of people come in wanting the update as soon as OTA pushes, but often the software doesn't have it yet.
Samsung tells SEC's to not reflash rooted devices. This is a liability issue because you could turn around and blame the SEC for whatever reason if the device bricks. You obviously knew what you were doing in the first place when rooting, so why bring it in really. Sammobile provides the same flashable files, so if you know enough, you should be able to do it yourself.
The SES is really there to support individuals learn and do light troubleshooting. Majority of the SEC workers are not even XDA savey. Smart is really simple, but majority of them do not know Odin or anything outside of what they're trained. So be careful who you hand your phone to. I see plenty of phones get wiped even when it was suppose to be a simple "update."
And no, Smart will not fix your Knox count. Smart can flash a rooted device to an OEM rom, but it will still show a tripped flash from before.
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Sammobile hasn't updated our device since release. Version MI9 is on there, but it's un-flashable unless your on MI9.
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Sammobile hasn't updated our device since release. Version MI9 is on there, but it's un-flashable unless your on MI9.
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Funny how both of the guys I talked to there on separate days, both rooted their phones, both new exactly what they were doing, and both were more than happy to help me. It depends on how you talk to people. Be kind and they'll treat you the same.
I learned pretty much the same stuff they knew in the time I was there. They updated the smart tool a week or so ago. It's now called smart 2. If the employee hasn't taken the time to learn the program, you're probably gonna be out of luck. We found out that my guy would flash the "HOME" firmware when they used the original smart tool. Home is basically the unlocked firmware straight from Samsung. He used to put that on people's phones to help them out, but we found out you can no longer put that on carrier locked phones anymore. Instead, they need to put the "factory" firmware on the phone. We tried to update my phone straight to kitkat but it failed miserably each time. Once we applied the factory 4.3 to my phone, it worked like a charm. He logged me onto the wifi their and downloaded the OTA in no time.
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It's nothing something someone is going to jeopardize their job for. The actual firmwares doesn't become available on Smart for actually a few days after the OTA update comes through anyways. Plenty of people come in wanting the update as soon as OTA pushes, but often the software doesn't have it yet.
Samsung tells SEC's to not reflash rooted devices. This is a liability issue because you could turn around and blame the SEC for whatever reason if the device bricks. You obviously knew what you were doing in the first place when rooting, so why bring it in really. Sammobile provides the same flashable files, so if you know enough, you should be able to do it yourself.
The SES is really there to support individuals learn and do light troubleshooting. Majority of the SEC workers are not even XDA savey. Smart is really simple, but majority of them do not know Odin or anything outside of what they're trained. So be careful who you hand your phone to. I see plenty of phones get wiped even when it was suppose to be a simple "update."
And no, Smart will not fix your Knox count. Smart can flash a rooted device to an OEM rom, but it will still show a tripped flash from before.
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And yes, they will jeopardize their jobs for that software. My guy tried numerous times to copy the program but they blocked usb writing on the computer he used.
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I was at best buy the other day and the guy couldn't even get the software to find my phone. Kinda odd, he had a note 3 also and it worked. He did say he could restore kit kat through
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mazdamiata210 said:
I was at best buy the other day and the guy couldn't even get the software to find my phone. Kinda odd, he had a note 3 also and it worked. He did say he could restore kit kat through
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When I was on MI9, it never worked. Could be due to root as well. But some firmwares don't pull up in smart for some reason I found. In this case the SEC would need to put the phone into recovery and flash the phone through a different menu option in Smart with a "Home" flash.
Not everything is supported through Smart right away. Smart doesn't have any international roms. Even the new tab pro's and S5 are not on there yet. If plugged up, it's reported that it'll brick somehow.
Just be sure the person you're talking to is confident in what they're doing.
BestBuys Samsung Guy Upgraded Me to 4.4.2
about forty minutes ago from 4.3. Took about 20 minutes to do. Walked in and told him that I kept getting the "install interrupted" message & he said "no problem," took my phone, plugged it in and went to help some other customer as I sat there. When he returned, it was done. San Francisco, CA, USA - Geary St. store if you are in the area. Ask for Arschack.
Any news about Samsung S.M.A.R.T Tool?
Best regards
Is the S.M.A.R.T. Tool different than the Smart Switch PC SW from Samsung?
Hey guys sorry to dig up an old thread but I needed to share - this Smart software saved my ass today at the Samsung store in Sydney, Australia.
I rooted my gf's S8 (SM-G950F) but didn't flash the custom ROM straight away. I booted into the stock ROM whilst I wasted for a custom ROM to download on my PC and sure enough the RMM kicked in (which I didn't know about, n00b) and locked me out of TWRP when I went to eventually flash the new ROM. The interesting thing is from that moment (ie, second reboot after flashing TWRP) the OS was not bootable and I had a bootloop. Since I had no recovery, and I couldn't reinstall TWRP due to RMM (unofficial binary error) I resorted to flashing a stock ROM/firmware via ODIN so that at least the phone was usable while I waited the 7 days for RMM to reset.
This is the bit I don't understand. I tried several different firmwares both Nougat and Oreo that I got from the Updato website, several different versions of ODIN, two different PCs and multiple cables but no matter what I tried I couldn't get anything to flash successfully. The main error I couldn't get around was "KERNEL REV CHECK FAIL". Believe me, I scoured the internet and after 10hrs I gave up since I couldn't find any forums or solutions which worked.
Next day I went into the Samsung store expecting them to tell me **** off but I was open and honest about what I had done and started speaking to one of the technical guys there. He was pretty sympathetic, and offered to have a go at resetting it for me. Sure enough it worked first go - recovery was back and the OS booted flawlessly. He said the Smart software is login protected (ie you need employee credentials) and that normally they don't touch rooted phones.
So yeah in summary this software is a pretty good last resort if you think you've ****ed your phone, but I imagine not every Samsung store will help you out so easily.
The support page for the Galaxy S6 has been updated to reflect that it’s going to receive the Marshmallow update on AT&T in the near future. The support page shows that version number G920AUCU3CPC2 will land on the handset, bumping it up to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
Now that it has been confirmed that the update is going to start rolling out soon it’s not going to take long for the OTA to hit the airwaves
Nice.. I hope the edge is updated at the same time
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Well I see that the OTA can be manually downloaded and installed on the S6, hopefully the file for the S6 Edge is uploaded soon.
i gotta wait fot the odin ?
What's funny is that the build that is available for the s6 is nearly 2 months old so clearly AT&T has just been sitting on it. It has the March security update, not even the April. If this is indeed the final build and what we will see on the S6 Edge I'm very disappointed in both AT&T and Samsung. The 2016 Nexus can't come out fast enough for me.
I know that back in the day we were able to flash 920 Images onto the 925 but would lose the edge features. which . . . havbe been pretty ****ty TBH
+1
So apparently in the regular s6 thread going on they found there are much newer versions of 6.0.1 available right now, the latest being PD6 vs the PC2 reference by samsung that's nearly 2 months old. I guess Samsung jumped the gun and posted the wrong build so we have literally no idea when the update is actually coming right now.
I have absolutely had it with AT&T, their utterly STUPID reps, and their mind-numbingly slow software updates. If anyone else is in the same boat, I ask you to call them whenever you have free time and literally bug the living **** out of them. This is the only way we'll get the update sooner and if nothing else, it's payback. Here's some arguments I've used:
Other carriers have had it for weeks
Two months (today) since the last update
Marshmallow came out 7 ****ING MONTHS AGO and they have a whopping 4-5 phones updated to it (s7, g5, g4, g3, and v10 pretty sure)
Android N is already late in the beta stages
Also, ask for a manager or supervisor. They're more likely to escalate this issue to the higher-ups.
At this point, I honestly think it's just a way of them forcing us into buying the s7. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. They do it every year, they don't give us any information on the development of the software, and if no one makes a big deal over it, what's in it for them? Absolutely ****ing nothing.
Together maybe we can move them along.... slightly.
#marshmallow2018
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I have absolutely had it with AT&T, their utterly STUPID reps, and their mind-numbingly slow software updates. If anyone else is in the same boat, I ask you to call them whenever you have free time and literally bug the living **** out of them. This is the only way we'll get the update sooner and if nothing else, it's payback. Here's some arguments I've used:
Other carriers have had it for weeks
Two months (today) since the last update
Marshmallow came out 7 ****ING MONTHS AGO and they have a whopping 4-5 phones updated to it (s7, g5, g4, g3, and v10 pretty sure)
Android N is already late in the beta stages
Also, ask for a manager or supervisor. They're more likely to escalate this issue to the higher-ups.
At this point, I honestly think it's just a way of them forcing us into buying the s7. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. They do it every year, they don't give us any information on the development of the software, and if no one makes a big deal over it, what's in it for them? Absolutely ****ing nothing.
Together maybe we can move them along.... slightly.
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I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
https://xdmd.sl.attcompute.com/agents/48652/1488/SS-G925AUCU3BOJ9-to-U3CPD6-UP
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brianbrain said:
I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
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Good point. In regards to that link, it's asking me for credentials. Is this this a download for the Odin file so I could flash it to my phone?
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Good point. In regards to that link, it's asking me for credentials. Is this this a download for the Odin file so I could flash it to my phone?
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Sorry about that - the download link is fixed now.
Rahilm has posted great instructions HERE. These are for the regular GS6 obviously, but the same flashing steps would apply for the Edge, just make sure you're using the right image first :good:
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I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
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I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?
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I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?
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Make sure you have a working ADB installation. Try this one
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I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?
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Troy - I was looking around, and you may want to try rebooting your workstation if you're sure you're running the most recent version of adb. This should resolve the cannot read issue.
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Make sure you have a working ADB installation. Try this one
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Troy - I was looking around, and you may want to try rebooting your workstation if you're sure you're running the most recent version of adb. This should resolve the cannot read issue.
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I am in the same boat, nothing I do will allow it to read the file. I tried on 2 PC's renaming it multiple times, even tried to make it into a zip file nothing is working.
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I am in the same boat, nothing I do will allow it to read the file. I tried on 2 PC's renaming it multiple times, even tried to make it into a zip file nothing is working.
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I've tried restarting, reinstalling, re-anything lol. Also tried using .bin and .zip with no luck. Is there a video tutorial anywhere? Good luck to you, and let me know if you figure anything out!
I wish I had better news for you guys. It just seems that ADB can be a little finicky - it's not the update file. I ran into the same issue and once ADB decides to start doing this, it doesn't even bother reading the file.
These are the steps I took and I eventually got it to work:
Make sure that the update file is in the same directory as ADB
Verify that you are running the latest version of ADB
Rename the update to a short filename like "ota" and add the .zip extension
Verify in cmd that the file renamed with only a .zip extension and not something else (eg: not ota.zip.bin or ota.zip.zip)
Restart your computer
Before plugging phone in, run "adb devices" and verify daemon is started with no devices listed
Plug phone in and enter adb sideload mode
Run adb devices again and verify the presence of your device
Run adb sideload update.zip
If doing things in this order doesn't work, all I can suggest at that point is to completely remove all ADB installations, reboot, and do a fresh install of the latest version of ADB. Some people have reported success with going the nuclear route and loading the latest SDK, but it's all very much YMMV.
Its here and working!!!
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The support page for the Galaxy S6 has been updated to reflect that it’s going to receive the Marshmallow update on AT&T in the near future. The support page shows that version number G920AUCU3CPC2 will land on the handset, bumping it up to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
Now that it has been confirmed that the update is going to start rolling out soon it’s not going to take long for the OTA to hit the airwaves
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Hit me up if you need a walkthrough.
Omfg I hate and love you at the same time. I'm at work right now, but will DEFINITELY be trying this as soon as I get home.
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Just finished the update and everything worked properly. Thank you for posting information on this. Now, the true test . . . a month later . . will it still speed along like its doing right now?
About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance
S5
The S5 is still a very capable phone. The display is top notch. It would really depend on what carrier you are with though. I know the att variant cant be rooted or unlocked currently and verizon has theirs locked down too, but as long as it comes with lollipop (5.x.x) software the verizon variant can be unlocked all the way to the bootloader.
as far as i know they are the only two providers who secure the s5 like fort knox. I could be wrong though. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted. I dont think you'll find a better phone in the same price range.
S5 is still a great phone. Only issues ive had with it over the 28 mos that ive had it is the low light blurryness with the camera and the fact that you have to swipe your thump across the fingerprint scanner. Having to do that nowadays kinda makes it feel dated. Other than those 2 issues, its a great phone!!
I just got an S5 to replace my S4 and I love it. I'm on AT&T and got the Tmobile version for the unlocked bootloader. I would totally get this phone again.
Its a great phone!
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The S5 is still a very capable phone. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted.
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I have a s5 900v like you (verizon) & got it 12 days ago. . When did you root yours? I *had* lollipop until last Thursday after accidentally pressing the screen through my pocket....which proceded to accept the update I was avoiding. Now I have marshmellow and I'm not happy ???*
Been fishing through XDA and haven't found anything about rooting s5 on mm. Anyone have something to share with me? Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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youdoofus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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I tried the root method (link within the thread u posted) about a week ago & had problems. To make a long story short, check out my remarks on pages 1-2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/to-root-t3330514/page2
I'm just looking to root my g900v s5. I don't want to mess around with the bootloader (not yet anyway). I just want root before Marshmellow or verizon release another update to patch the *open* vulnerability.
If the dumb MM update didn't happen I would've had time to find lollipop root. I never had a problem w/ my s4 where the screen would allow a touch through pants or shirt pocket. Thought these things were sensitive to the touch of skin not clothing?? Cause of my problem was losing my s4 over July 4th weekend that I rooted w/ towelroot in 05/2014 (that I just paid off in May over 24 months w/ verizon)
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot
youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is.
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youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks
Lane W. said:
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks
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CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny! But oneclick and towel doesnt surprise me, but kingroot has been the "if nothing else works" as of late. I have a root program on my computer that i cant recall the name of off hand, and it does look like a malware program, but its been the go-to when all else fails. Ill look at my desktop icons and remind myself what it is when i get home. Its some chinese .exe is that helps in the interim
found it, its called "v root"
it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html
tiguy99 said:
About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance
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I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).
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I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).
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I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p
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I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p
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Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,
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Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,
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I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text I've just never had any trouble with flashing stuff on a Samsung since the epic touch 4g. Htcs have that goofy bootloader unlock that has to be done via htcdev.com. The newest Samsung I'd be willing to use is the S5 anyways because of the removable battery, external storage and waterproofing. The s6 sucks and the s7 has that dumb encrypted storage that made root hard for a while. Samsung's are far from perfect, and I'd likely be looking at a OnePlus or a Huawei in the future if I was shopping for a phone, but for those looking at either the second hand market, refurbs or a new one available for stupid cheap, S5s are great phones still.
Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!
youdoofus said:
CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny!
found it, its called "v root". it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html
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Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks
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Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks
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Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/
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Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/
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Fantastic, thanks. Just to be sure, I want to use the one click root APK the part at the top under the first description, correct? The second section, as far as I can tell, is for iroot via a PC?
Is Titanium compatible with this method of root? What about recovery? Does Vroot have its own method or could I use TWRP or SafeStrap? Have you had any complications with the modem or WiFi using your device with Vroot?
Thank you!!
youdoofus said:
I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text
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Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!
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I said that I wasn't arguing for that very reason - I didn't want my second post to come across in a negative way. I could see that your post had come across in a good light and wanted to keep it that way
I am from UK but living in Australia at the moment. I last heard that Chris Evans has gone from the new Top Gear - thank F... for that, he's the biggest pleb going and watching the first couple of episodes were extremely painful and cringy. A number of things Chris said in the first show were somewhat not completely correct and I eventually switched it off.
Really looking forward to watching Clarkson and the gang - they're entertaining. Their top gear was more like a sit-com, which is what it's grown into and it works pretty well. Anyone in the family can watch it even if they know nothing about cars - I'll have to google for it because I don't know any details about their new show.
I've picked up a tablet from ebay, its the 32BG/3GB version and I've been wracking mmy brain and trying tools. Does anyone know if there is a FRP firmware I can flash with Odin? Shield Alliance is no longer available on the Galaxy store, so if anyone knows an alt, I'll try that too.
I found a guide to make a custom AP file for odin, but I don't see the right files to make the combo file in my firmware files.
Remove FRP Lock on Samsung with Combination File (Odin)
Here are some easy tricks to easily remove FRP lock on Samsung Galaxy devices by flashing Samsung combination file (firmware) using Odin.
technastic.com
3of12 said:
I've picked up a tablet from ebay, its the 32BG/3GB version and I've been wracking mmy brain and trying tools. Does anyone know if there is a FRP firmware I can flash with Odin? Shield Alliance is no longer available on the Galaxy store, so if anyone knows an alt, I'll try that too.
I found a guide to make a custom AP file for odin, but I don't see the right files to make the combo file in my firmware files.
Remove FRP Lock on Samsung with Combination File (Odin)
Here are some easy tricks to easily remove FRP lock on Samsung Galaxy devices by flashing Samsung combination file (firmware) using Odin.
technastic.com
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Did the eBay ad tell you it was FRP locked? If not I'd send it back. I've yet to hear of a way to bypass FRP lock in late model tablets. The only other option is to ask the seller to furnish legit "proof of purchase" so you can send it to Samsung tech support and have them unlock it.
BTW: The reason that you didn't find the files is that everytime someone finds a way to bypass FRP, Google finds a way to stop it. The whole purpose of FRP is to keep thieves from using the device. If there is a way to circumvent it, it becomes useless.
lewmur said:
Did the eBay ad tell you it was FRP locked? If not I'd send it back. I've yet to hear of a way to bypass FRP lock in late model tablets. The only other option is to ask the seller to furnish legit "proof of purchase" so you can send it to Samsung tech support and have them unlock it.
BTW: The reason that you didn't find the files is that everytime someone finds a way to bypass FRP, Google finds a way to stop it. The whole purpose of FRP is to keep thieves from using the device. If there is a way to circumvent it, it becomes useless.
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Yes I've done a lot of research in the last several days regarding this. The seller claimed they don't know if it even worked. After asking them questions they bought the tablet second hand as doesn't have the contact information of the original owner. I still got it quite cheap so its worth replacing the motherboard with a for parts tablet with a good one.
There actually was a well known method for getting around FRP for this model involving using talkback to access chrome and installing shield alliance from the galaxy store. Unfortunately the app has been removed. I've been looking into the combination file method since which seems to still work in theory I might simply need to do some research and find a different firmware dump or do some intuition with the file names. Personally I think it can be done, and even if not I'll just buy a parts unit.
Someone has already contacted me here for help over discord.
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Yes I've done a lot of research in the last several days regarding this. The seller claimed they don't know if it even worked. After asking them questions they bought the tablet second hand as doesn't have the contact information of the original owner. I still got it quite cheap so its worth replacing the motherboard with a for parts tablet with a good one.
There actually was a well known method for getting around FRP for this model involving using talkback to access chrome and installing shield alliance from the galaxy store. Unfortunately the app has been removed. I've been looking into the combination file method since which seems to still work in theory I might simply need to do some research and find a different firmware dump or do some intuition with the file names. Personally I think it can be done, and even if not I'll just buy a parts unit.
Someone has already contacted me here for help over discord.
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Well good luck. All I know is that I've seen the question on bypassing FRP many, many times and I haven't seen anyone succeed in several years. Just look at the solution you read about. First of all, you don't get the screen it says you will when you factory reset. There is no way to turn on USB debugging. 2nd, all Google would need to do to prevent it from working is to change the file names.
lewmur said:
Well good luck. All I know is that I've seen the question on bypassing FRP many, many times and I haven't seen anyone succeed in several years. Just look at the solution you read about. First of all, you don't get the screen it says you will when you factory reset. There is no way to turn on USB debugging. 2nd, all Google would need to do to prevent it from working is to change the file names.
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I have one last question. I'm told I can send it to a samsung service center, do you know if that's costly?
3of12 said:
I have one last question. I'm told I can send it to a samsung service center, do you know if that's costly?
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I don't know. The only time I did it, the tablet was still in warranty.
3of12 said:
I have one last question. I'm told I can send it to a samsung service center, do you know if that's costly?
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There are so many service online which you have to pay for FRP removal you can search on google for those, also on ebay they are service too for it
zfk110 said:
There are so many service online which you have to pay for FRP removal you can search on google for those, also on ebay they are service too for it
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I have yet to see anyone report back at having succeeded with one of these services. There are plenty of ads for the services but how does anyone know which, if any, are legit?
I had exactly the same problem with a Galaxy A32 and was able to find a solution for the FRP.
Its for the A32 but it might work for you as well.
Basically, it uses the samsung account from another phone to restore apps to the hacked one.
Either or, hope it works or gives an idea for a solution.
I have spoken....
That must be some of the most stupid and annoying background music ever....
But a nice party trick, so much is true, shoudl it work.
lewmur said:
I have yet to see anyone report back at having succeeded with one of these services. There are plenty of ads for the services but how does anyone know which, if any, are legit? redactle
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I think it is not easy to know which service is legit. Instead, I often consult with people who have used it more.
beerskill said:
I think it is not easy to know which service is legit. Instead, I often consult with people who have used it more.
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If no one has ever reported successfully using one, how do you consult them? I have yet to see anyone on XDA report doing so.
lewmur said:
If no one has ever reported successfully using one, how do you consult them? I have yet to see anyone on XDA report doing so.
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It definitely worked in the past....but years ago. From what I've read Android 9 was the last time any FRP worked.
Security is so much better now in new Android versions together with updated Google services checks that unless someone on the inside works at a carrier it's just not possible anymore
kevinco1 said:
It definitely worked in the past....but years ago. From what I've read Android 9 was the last time any FRP worked.
Security is so much better now in new Android versions together with updated Google services checks that unless someone on the inside works at a carrier it's just not possible anymore
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I unlocked several in the past, but, as you said, Google finally got it tighten up to the point even the combo files no longer worked.
lewmur said:
I unlocked several in the past, but, as you said, Google finally got it tighten up to the point even the combo files no longer worked.
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Dang forgot about combo files! Those were the days