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VZW Halts OTA

I just got off the phone with VZW. Apparently, they've stopped rolling out the OTA because of "software issues," though he didn't specify beyond that. So, for all of you who have been waiting for the OTA over the past few days, off the top of his head, the tech guesstimated it'll be around a month before they begin rolling it out again. Lame.
Edit: You can still install the .217 leak...but if the update has been pulled for software issues, that obviously means .217 is no longer the official OTA.

What? thats BS! even though im on Eclipse ICS 1.2, its still BS for anyone still on GB!

alex94kumar said:
What? thats BS! even though im on Eclipse ICS 1.2, its still BS for anyone still on GB!
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Yeah, I've been mashing the "systems update" option habitually now for a couple days, but also avoided just manually updating to the .217 leak for this very reason. Either way, it is kind of disappointing.

honestly, if I were you, I would jump on either the 217 leak, or if you want a custom rom that's slightly themed and has extra features/no bloat, go with Eclipse

It wasn't supposed to be released for the general OTA, they did that on accident, only people who were signed up for the motorola feedback network test were supposed to get it, but for some reason they pushed it to all devices. It should be officially pushed in a week or so, because it appears the soak test isn't showing up any major issues.
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EDIT: Did NOT work
I called VZW tech support earlier today because it was not working and they did not mention anything about it being halted, but it probably depends on which tech you speak with.
I am not sure if this works or not but the guy I spoke with did tell me that performing a factory reset can sometimes trigger the upgrade. I don't have anything on there that I can't live without or easily re-install so I am going to go ahead and give it a shot.
EDIT: Just tried above. Did NOT work

Rafterman414 said:
EDIT: Did NOT work
I called VZW tech support earlier today because it was not working and they did not mention anything about it being halted, but it probably depends on which tech you speak with.
I am not sure if this works or not but the guy I spoke with did tell me that performing a factory reset can sometimes trigger the upgrade. I don't have anything on there that I can't live without or easily re-install so I am going to go ahead and give it a shot.
EDIT: Just tried above. Did NOT work
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As mentioned above, there was no planned general release yet. Moto did a release for "a few thousand" phones, of which only a small portion are official MFN soak testers. The test will end soon, and it looks like no show-stopper issues have been found, so, if things go as usual, the general release will roll out, probably in groups, over the next several days.
Sounds like the OP spoke to someone in VZ who really didn't know why the release wasn't available and made something up. (And I bet you never thought a VzW rep would do that!)

Keep in mind, even if they had decided to halt it due to a showstopper bug, they've already released it to several thousand owners. Which means they're obligated to provide anyone on .217 with a way to get back onto the upgrade path, if they decide to release a newer update down the road.
All in all - if you're impatient, just install the current .217 files - you'll still be able to upgrade again later if you need to.
Btw: I'm on it now, and I ABSOLUTELY HATE the Dialer and Contacts being split apart into totally separate apps. I always hit the Dialer icon first, and then if I can't remember a person's phone number, I now have to back out of it and look up the contact first. Whereas on GB I just had to select the Contacts tab and go on. So from a human interface perspective, this new design sucks.

highlandsun said:
Keep in mind, even if they had decided to halt it due to a showstopper bug, they've already released it to several thousand owners. Which means they're obligated to provide anyone on .217 with a way to get back onto the upgrade path, if they decide to release a newer update down the road.
All in all - if you're impatient, just install the current .217 files - you'll still be able to upgrade again later if you need to.
Btw: I'm on it now, and I ABSOLUTELY HATE the Dialer and Contacts being split apart into totally separate apps. I always hit the Dialer icon first, and then if I can't remember a person's phone number, I now have to back out of it and look up the contact first. Whereas on GB I just had to select the Contacts tab and go on. So from a human interface perspective, this new design sucks.
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When your in at the dialer screen just push menu then search it goes to your contact list. So its a matter of hitting 2 buttons but you can get to it from dialer. I also miss the other way but im getting used to this and it doesnt bother me anymore
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It's happened to me twice now in the last two days that I was unable to hear the people calling me. Switching to speaker mode or rebooting the phone fixed this. Actually only rebooting. Alternating between speaker and normal mode is just a temporary fix as long as I'm in speaker mode. Plug in the headset and it works. Take it out en again no sound... I think it happens after I use BT.

Maybe people who are on this update officially could raise a bit of fuss about this and ask to be put back onto Gingerbread?
As we all know this currently can't be done due to the highly restrictive bootloader, perhaps we could wangle a better bootloader out of this?

Lum_UK said:
Maybe people who are on this update officially could raise a bit of fuss about this and ask to be put back onto Gingerbread?
As we all know this currently can't be done due to the highly restrictive bootloader, perhaps we could wangle a better bootloader out of this?
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Well, we can certainly dream, but given a choice between unlocking the bootloader and shrugging apologetically and insisting nothing can be done, I'm dead sure Verizon will require Motorola to do the latter. :crying:

Installing OTA right now on my wife's D4
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Seems like more people are getting it now. I just got too antsy and went ahead and installed the .217 leak floating around, I bet if I had waited another day I could have gotten the OTA. Hopefully I did not ruin my ability to get future OTA updates.
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Rafterman414 said:
Seems like more people are getting it now. I just got too antsy and went ahead and installed the .217 leak floating around, I bet if I had waited another day I could have gotten the OTA. Hopefully I did not ruin my ability to get future OTA updates.
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You didn't. .217 is .217 no matter how you got it. Anyone on the "leaked" .217 is on the official update path as that is what was pushed as OTA.

tcrews said:
You didn't. .217 is .217 no matter how you got it. Anyone on the "leaked" .217 is on the official update path as that is what was pushed as OTA.
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If you had a nickel for every time you had to tell somebody that you could probably retire! LOL
Droid 4 - AOKP K1L0

Update fails anyway
I received the update this morning, and after attempting to install, it fails within 30 seconds and reboots. I factory reset, erasing everything, downloaded the update again, and same result. Anybody have any information on this? I pressed the volume up button and it says:
Verifying current system...
assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/music2.apk", "cbb199983ab1cb9beee6b20ec4db659ccd49d757", "25d8789a15715fdd931ef2a2ee93b637bfef06b0")
E:Error in /cache/Blur_Version 6.13.219.XT894.Verizon.en.US.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.

Saloobian said:
I received the update this morning, and after attempting to install, it fails within 30 seconds and reboots. I factory reset, erasing everything, downloaded the update again, and same result. Anybody have any information on this?
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Just install from a PC via FastBoot.
ROM: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/cdma_maserati/list.php
Instructions: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...otorola-droid-4-xt894-stock-windows-only.html
Note. Do not download one of the two ROMs that post suggests, use the 217 ROM from my link above. Do not attempt to downgrade via this method either, it will not work. You might also want to skip steps 6-9 if you don't want to reset your data. Not sure how well this will work after an upgrade.

The soak test is over and "the software is officially released and will be rolling out in stages"....
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Fantastic! I restored to stock and downloaded the update again, and it's currently installing without a hitch! Thanks!

Sprint.com Activation Warning!/Factory Data Reset!

Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.

glassjosh said:
Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.
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TiBu is your friend

rawintellect said:
TiBu is your friend
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Word.
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glassjosh said:
Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.
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Had you already activated the device at least once before you attempted the online activation that resulted in the factory reset?

So I can confirm that this is indeed the desired behavior of chameleon. Whenever activation info is changed through HFA, then the device is now supposed to hard reset.
While this is certainly inconvenient if you didn't know it would happen (as us here in the store didn't know this was going to be the behavior going forward either), the reasoning behind it is sound: chameleon is put in place so that identical models of phones that are different sprint channels (sprint post paid, prepaid, boost, etc.) can run the same firmware; chameleon handles the bloatware payload for each channel. In other words, sprint no longer has to have different software packages for the same phone just because one gets sprint zone etc. and the other gets boost stuff etc.
Now, hopefully we get to a point to where chameleon is smart enough to recognize the current payload and decide whether a hard reset is necessary, but...baby steps I suppose.
EDIT: also, profile updates on their own don't require a reset. It's part of the whole HFA process that does it.
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Nope, it was a new device I wanted to set up and play with on wifi before activating it. Now I just have to call CC and have them swap the devices manually.

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It's only your friend if you're rooted, I always keep stock FW for the return period of a device since you never know. I have always had mixed experiences with restoring app data as well.

glassjosh said:
It's only your friend if you're rooted, I always keep stock FW for the return period of a device since you never know. I have always had mixed experiences with restoring app data as well.
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I've never had ONE bad experience with TiBu. Ever. If you know what you're doing it's fine. And why wouldn't you root? You can always unroot at any given time. And yes the counter can be reset.

The debate for rooting belongs elsewhere, I'm well aware you can reset counters, unroot, however, it's not worth the time when the risk of returning is high IMHO. You don't have to know what you're doing in TiBu, that's the beauty, but you still have a better chance of stability when using new app data, and it only takes 1 bad experience with some things..

glassjosh said:
The debate for rooting belongs elsewhere, I'm well aware you can reset counters, unroot, however, it's not worth the time when the risk of returning is high IMHO. You don't have to know what you're doing in TiBu, that's the beauty, but you still have a better chance of stability when using new app data, and it only takes 1 bad experience with some things..
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LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.

rawintellect said:
LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.
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I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, only warn others to possibly help someone out; which is the whole purpose of this site. I certainly don't have time to troll anyone's posts. Before you get more butt-hurt, read what I said. I know from my "MANY YEARS" of android tinkering and development, that you only need time to read, not to truly know what you're doing. Apparently we have different ideas of what that means. Never did I state that rooting was inferior, that's absurd. And how would you know the risk of me returning the phone in the return period? You obviously don't read or comprehend well. As stated before, I'm well familiar with the process for tweaking android devices, especially Samsung since I have 6 of them. I'm so super impressed with your vast knowledge though..

Wow. That escalated quickly for no reason. You ignores someone for having an opinion about not rooting a phone in the first seven days of owning it. I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that don't root in that first week, that includes me as one of them.
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rawintellect said:
LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.
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[Q] Bought a seemingly rooted phone on Swappa and I'm concerned...

OK, I'm going to start by saying I know pretty much nothing about rooting and I may come across as a paranoid conspiracy nut, but here goes.
I recently bought a Note 3 on Swappa. In the description, the seller said that he had removed all of the AT&T Bloatware, but the phone was not rooted. He also stated that a system reset would restore the AT&T apps. Well, the first thing I did was a system restore, but the AT&T apps were still gone. Not that I care about the apps really, but it seemed weird.
Today, I downloaded the "Root Checker" app on the Play Store and it told me that my phone was, in fact, rooted. I also downloaded SuperU and it verified that as well. I've also gotten Titanium Backup (Root) and it shows I'm rooted.
I posted a message on my sale page at Swappa mentioning this, but the seller is adamantly denying that the phone is rooted. He says they use their "own process" to remove the bloatware.
My question in all of this is is this: Is this something I should be concerned about? The seller seems less than honest about the phone being rooted. He is a "trusted seller" which is one reason I bought from him, but I'm super paranoid that there might be something on my phone that I'm unaware of. (a keylogging app, etc...) Is there any way to tell this? How do I go about truly returning my phone back to its original state? I system reset didn't unroot it.
Any advice from people out there much more knowledgeable than me about this?
EDIT: well, I took andygev35's advice and restored back to factory. However, I enjoyed playing around with the things that being rooted allowed, so I re-did it. A huge waste of time? Maybe, but at least I have some peace of mind over the whole thing now. Thanks to everyone!

If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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andygev35 said:
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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Thanks, and holy crap - just glancing at that it looks like a total pain in the ass. This is why I never bothered to root in the first place. Do you think I'm being too paranoid? Or is is worth doing all this?

It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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andygev35 said:
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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OK. I may do this when I get home. Thanks.

Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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mrkhigh said:
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
Why wouldn't anyone want access to the root files in THEIR phone ???
You have root access to your PC or Mac, why would anyone want a provider to lock down their phone making things inaccessible.
You're not renting the phone, it's Yours (always try and have root access if possible).
google up moborobo and download it, its free and gives u full access to your phone, please download it and check it out -
You will love all the stuff you can do with a rooted N3 -

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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.

Since we now have nc2 Odin files you are relatively safe in doing a restore.
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ThePorter said:
I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
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I too am a former Jailbreaker and am so glad I jumped the fence out of Apple's walled garden. I do have to say, at least Apple readily provides the latest firmware for their devices. I can't understand why AT&T won't let Sammy publish our Odin files. As @mrkhigh stated, we DO now have the Odin files (probably gained in some nefarious manner by a sympathizing Best Buy employee), so now you can safely let the experimenting begin without worry.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.

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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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Pretty sure it's a real AT&T - I took it to the store and had them check the IMHO when I had it activated. I finally just uprooted and flashed the 4.4.2 stock on it (I'm learning the terminology here so hope that's right) from the first post.
The guy is a trusted seller and has sold tons of phones in Swappa. He advertises on all the Samsung at&t phones that he removes the bloatware but does NOT root the phone. But, it was.
In the end, I'm happy with the phone. Seller was less than honest about his process and hopefully he didn't steal all my bank info, haha, but the phone works great.

You have to root to remove all bloatware...
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Good to know though. *cheers*

Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.

ThePorter said:
Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Im sure its probably because he sells a lot of devices and didn't realize the one he sold had root.
Then when he talked to u he realized that u r uneducated about the subject so he thought he would bs u.
Of course one would have to have root access to remove root files.
I still don't understand why ur making such a big fuss?
If u don't feel like u lucked out, (like the rest of us do) just send the flipping thing back!
Did you download free moborobo?

Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.

graydiggy said:
Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Yeah, you're right. I looked at it but it seems to be completely unnecessary.

Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Excuse me but this is not an unknown app, it has been around for years and works wonderfully !!!
I have been using it since I got my N3 at thanksgiving and it works great, installs downloaded apk files in a snap, allows you easy navigation to your entire phone.Doesn't spam you. It just works great. I'm only recommending it because I have USED it for 9 months, (and you guys can't even google it?)
Since when do mods and forum gurus recommend staying away from something they have never used it, or even spent 10 secs researching ????
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moborobo+review
I was only trying to help OP out. it is a great and FREE app for rooted devices, sorry for wasting ur time OP -
(ps - I found the software while trying to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my 4s to N3, which worked perfectly and easily, (after trying other stuff). It was after that I discovered how nice it manages everything)

Received Lollipop today

Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there

AUTOROOT
I just rooted my N4 just fine using auto root, also have no problems so far with Philz recovery. Dont know if yall already knew these would be smooth transitions but I didnt lol. Well just some fyis. Have fun with yalls goodnes

Is there a flashable zip on here for this yet? Searched everywhere but can't find one.
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MrCopeland23 said:
Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there
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Do you have a 0x0 Knox Counter? I'm debating on downloading NK4 and getting COD6 OTA becuase right now it's taking forever to download from sammobile.

KIES
C-4Nati said:
Is there a flashable zip on here for this yet? Searched everywhere but can't find one.
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Use Samsung Kies

good question on the counter, I have restarted my phone and have not seen it, Buuut I did freeze knox though. As far as updating Use Kies took about 10 mins

USB audio?
I got the Lollipop update this morning through T-mobile. It was smooth to update, and I haven't noticed battery issues or anything others had reporter.
However, I was super-excited for Lollipop, because it allows for USB microphones. And I've tried all 5 of the ones I own without success. I tried Samsung support, which was useless. They weren't even aware of the feature.
Do you think it's possible that Samsung or T-mobile bypassed this native feature to Lollipop? I was connecting via OTG cable. I haven't tried mic to powered hub to OTG yet, because I've seen Nexus owners on Lollypop just connect USB microphones via OTG.
I'd be grateful for any advice any of you gurus have out there. I am not rooted or running anything custom. I've been fairly happy with stock. But, like I started with, I was all the while looking forward to this Lollypop update for portable recording via USB. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks.

Downloading as I type...I'm sure I am wasting my time since I been rocking BeanStalk 5.0.2, but my curiosity is making me just give it a look and see how it works. It'll be nice to use the S-Pen features again, but Lollipop without all the bs that samsung and tmo put on there has been nothing short of amazing.

Why have the note 4 when you can have PURE android just like you want with the new 6 inch moto. But whatever guess I will never understand why people will buy a car. Strip it off its goods (rims/system/under the hood upgrades) just to have a classic stripped stock vehicle? I mean already having the features why give then away? I will never understand

nano303 said:
Why have the note 4 when you can have PURE android just like you want with the new 6 inch moto. But whatever guess I will never understand why people will buy a car. Strip it off its goods (rims/system/under the hood upgrades) just to have a classic stripped stock vehicle? I mean already having the features why give then away? I will never understand
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Assuming that you're talking about the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro, there's no need to debate/discuss why I would want TouchWiz on ANY level, which is why I was close to buying a Nexus 6. Honestly though, for me, while the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro isn't a bad phone(they're both really great phones), they lost me with no way to add extra storage or remove your battery if needed. In addition, while I have been running Beanstalk for the last few weeks, I still think the S-Pen is a really great feature to have on the Note 4. There's really no need to go into details about which phone is better, because it will always come down to preference, but in regards to your comment, it's not as stripped down as you present it to be.

JayeSyn said:
Assuming that you're talking about the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro, there's no need to debate/discuss why I would want TouchWiz on ANY level, which is why I was close to buying a Nexus 6. Honestly though, for me, while the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro isn't a bad phone(they're both really great phones), they lost me with no way to add extra storage or remove your battery if needed. In addition, while I have been running Beanstalk for the last few weeks, I still think the S-Pen is a really great feature to have on the Note 4. There's really no need to go into details about which phone is better, because it will always come down to preference, but in regards to your comment, it's not as stripped down as you present it to be.
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Alright bud. Just saying OK. Don't get like some of the people up in here right away biting haha. Ain't no one saying it with attitude or anything. I just don't get it but now I do ??

MrCopeland23 said:
Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there
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Can I ask how you did that? I upgraded from BeanStalk to stock Lollipop via Kies, but I'm getting force closes on gapps services. Can barely use the phone they are coming in so frequently. What did you do to uninstall gapps and how did you get the correct version installed?

nano303 said:
Alright bud. Just saying OK. Don't get like some of the people up in here right away biting haha. Ain't no one saying it with attitude or anything. I just don't get it but now I do
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No attitude here, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I am certainly not hating on you for what you're saying and personally, in many(maybe most) aspects, those are flat out better phones than the Note 4. I just installed this bs lollipop so now as I type, I am flashing back to BeanStalk. The lack of a removable battery i could live with, but the expandable storage is a necessity for me, the only reason I am staying with the Note 4 since most phones that are coming out are converting to that style.

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Can I ask how you did that? I upgraded from BeanStalk to stock Lollipop via Kies, but I'm getting force closes on gapps services. Can barely use the phone they are coming in so frequently. What did you do to uninstall gapps and how did you get the correct version installed?
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You do not need to install gapps on stock ROMs. They are included. Installing them as a zip will break them. So, factory reset (or fresh install), and don't flash gapps.
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thefanum said:
You do not need to install gapps on stock ROMs. They are included. Installing them as a zip will break them. So, factory reset (or fresh install), and don't flash gapps.
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Hey. Thanks for the reply. I actually didn't install gapps over the stock ROM. Not sure what it didn't like installing over Beanstalk. I did a wipe before I installed via kies. Anyway, I resolved by doing a factory reset, like you said. Did two actually. All is well now, thanks.

AT&T Galaxy S6 Marshmallow OTA In Next Few Days Confirmed

The support page for the Galaxy S6 has been updated to reflect that it’s going to receive the Marshmallow update on AT&T in the near future. The support page shows that version number G920AUCU3CPC2 will land on the handset, bumping it up to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
Now that it has been confirmed that the update is going to start rolling out soon it’s not going to take long for the OTA to hit the airwaves

Nice.. I hope the edge is updated at the same time
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Well I see that the OTA can be manually downloaded and installed on the S6, hopefully the file for the S6 Edge is uploaded soon.

i gotta wait fot the odin ?

What's funny is that the build that is available for the s6 is nearly 2 months old so clearly AT&T has just been sitting on it. It has the March security update, not even the April. If this is indeed the final build and what we will see on the S6 Edge I'm very disappointed in both AT&T and Samsung. The 2016 Nexus can't come out fast enough for me.

I know that back in the day we were able to flash 920 Images onto the 925 but would lose the edge features. which . . . havbe been pretty ****ty TBH

+1

So apparently in the regular s6 thread going on they found there are much newer versions of 6.0.1 available right now, the latest being PD6 vs the PC2 reference by samsung that's nearly 2 months old. I guess Samsung jumped the gun and posted the wrong build so we have literally no idea when the update is actually coming right now.

I have absolutely had it with AT&T, their utterly STUPID reps, and their mind-numbingly slow software updates. If anyone else is in the same boat, I ask you to call them whenever you have free time and literally bug the living **** out of them. This is the only way we'll get the update sooner and if nothing else, it's payback. Here's some arguments I've used:
Other carriers have had it for weeks
Two months (today) since the last update
Marshmallow came out 7 ****ING MONTHS AGO and they have a whopping 4-5 phones updated to it (s7, g5, g4, g3, and v10 pretty sure)
Android N is already late in the beta stages
Also, ask for a manager or supervisor. They're more likely to escalate this issue to the higher-ups.
At this point, I honestly think it's just a way of them forcing us into buying the s7. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. They do it every year, they don't give us any information on the development of the software, and if no one makes a big deal over it, what's in it for them? Absolutely ****ing nothing.
Together maybe we can move them along.... slightly.
#marshmallow2018

troybrostrom said:
I have absolutely had it with AT&T, their utterly STUPID reps, and their mind-numbingly slow software updates. If anyone else is in the same boat, I ask you to call them whenever you have free time and literally bug the living **** out of them. This is the only way we'll get the update sooner and if nothing else, it's payback. Here's some arguments I've used:
Other carriers have had it for weeks
Two months (today) since the last update
Marshmallow came out 7 ****ING MONTHS AGO and they have a whopping 4-5 phones updated to it (s7, g5, g4, g3, and v10 pretty sure)
Android N is already late in the beta stages
Also, ask for a manager or supervisor. They're more likely to escalate this issue to the higher-ups.
At this point, I honestly think it's just a way of them forcing us into buying the s7. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. They do it every year, they don't give us any information on the development of the software, and if no one makes a big deal over it, what's in it for them? Absolutely ****ing nothing.
Together maybe we can move them along.... slightly.
#marshmallow2018
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I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
https://xdmd.sl.attcompute.com/agents/48652/1488/SS-G925AUCU3BOJ9-to-U3CPD6-UP
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brianbrain said:
I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
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Good point. In regards to that link, it's asking me for credentials. Is this this a download for the Odin file so I could flash it to my phone?
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troybrostrom said:
Good point. In regards to that link, it's asking me for credentials. Is this this a download for the Odin file so I could flash it to my phone?
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Sorry about that - the download link is fixed now.
Rahilm has posted great instructions HERE. These are for the regular GS6 obviously, but the same flashing steps would apply for the Edge, just make sure you're using the right image first :good:

brianbrain said:
I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
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I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?

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I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?
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Make sure you have a working ADB installation. Try this one
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I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?
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Troy - I was looking around, and you may want to try rebooting your workstation if you're sure you're running the most recent version of adb. This should resolve the cannot read issue.

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Make sure you have a working ADB installation. Try this one
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Troy - I was looking around, and you may want to try rebooting your workstation if you're sure you're running the most recent version of adb. This should resolve the cannot read issue.
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I am in the same boat, nothing I do will allow it to read the file. I tried on 2 PC's renaming it multiple times, even tried to make it into a zip file nothing is working.

justda said:
I am in the same boat, nothing I do will allow it to read the file. I tried on 2 PC's renaming it multiple times, even tried to make it into a zip file nothing is working.
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I've tried restarting, reinstalling, re-anything lol. Also tried using .bin and .zip with no luck. Is there a video tutorial anywhere? Good luck to you, and let me know if you figure anything out!

I wish I had better news for you guys. It just seems that ADB can be a little finicky - it's not the update file. I ran into the same issue and once ADB decides to start doing this, it doesn't even bother reading the file.
These are the steps I took and I eventually got it to work:
Make sure that the update file is in the same directory as ADB
Verify that you are running the latest version of ADB
Rename the update to a short filename like "ota" and add the .zip extension
Verify in cmd that the file renamed with only a .zip extension and not something else (eg: not ota.zip.bin or ota.zip.zip)
Restart your computer
Before plugging phone in, run "adb devices" and verify daemon is started with no devices listed
Plug phone in and enter adb sideload mode
Run adb devices again and verify the presence of your device
Run adb sideload update.zip
If doing things in this order doesn't work, all I can suggest at that point is to completely remove all ADB installations, reboot, and do a fresh install of the latest version of ADB. Some people have reported success with going the nuclear route and loading the latest SDK, but it's all very much YMMV.

Its here and working!!!
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The support page for the Galaxy S6 has been updated to reflect that it’s going to receive the Marshmallow update on AT&T in the near future. The support page shows that version number G920AUCU3CPC2 will land on the handset, bumping it up to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
Now that it has been confirmed that the update is going to start rolling out soon it’s not going to take long for the OTA to hit the airwaves
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Hit me up if you need a walkthrough.

Omfg I hate and love you at the same time. I'm at work right now, but will DEFINITELY be trying this as soon as I get home.
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Just finished the update and everything worked properly. Thank you for posting information on this. Now, the true test . . . a month later . . will it still speed along like its doing right now?