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[Q] Just got a new phone!

Bought the unlocked Moto X, and loving it so far.
But there are a few things I want changed: I want easy access to block certain permissions to certain apps, block ads, see how much percent of the battery is left in the top bar along with the icon.
If I understand correctly, there are two ways to achieve those things: Get root access and install apps which require superuser access, or install a custom ROM.
What would you recommend? Is there a custom ROM that can even be installed on the Moto X? How mature is it?
Thanks! Just trying to see what my options are.

I just unlocked the boot loader then installed twrp which will ask if you want to root the first time you boot into it. I then installed xposed and gravity box. It's the best combo I have for now.
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Thanks! Now I see some keywords - will be reading more about all this stuff
So if I understand correctly, you didn't install a custom ROM? What factors went into this decision?

Roms aren't needed because most of us can do customization ourselves with xposed modules. Unlike sense and touchwiz, Moto adds very little bloat so there's no need for any tweaks a rom may promote since the device has never been laggy for me. GravityBox is a very useful app to have. Additionally you can use modules like Xprivacy and MinMinGuard to help with restricting data apps have access to and toning down ads, respectively.

Thanks, guys!
Will follow your advice here - I'll stick with the stock ROM.
Already unlocked the bootloader (super easy).
Now I need to install TWRP, but to do that I need software which is called mfastboot
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
gives this link for the mfastboot software
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dUKGxGylgNTk43eU0xc3VLekE/edit?usp=sharing
But it never says who developed it, and where it actually comes from. Do we just need to trust it?

sksol said:
Thanks, guys!
Will follow your advice here - I'll stick with the stock ROM.
Already unlocked the bootloader (super easy).
Now I need to install TWRP, but to do that I need software which is called mfastboot
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
gives this link for the mfastboot software
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dUKGxGylgNTk43eU0xc3VLekE/edit?usp=sharing
But it never says who developed it, and where it actually comes from. Do we just need to trust it?
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It´s made by Motorola themselves. mfastboot was made to flash Motorola devices since normal flashboot can´t or something like that (can´t remember )

sksol said:
Bought the unlocked Moto X, and loving it so far.
But there are a few things I want changed: I want easy access to block certain permissions to certain apps, block ads, see how much percent of the battery is left in the top bar along with the icon.
If I understand correctly, there are two ways to achieve those things: Get root access and install apps which require superuser access, or install a custom ROM.
What would you recommend? Is there a custom ROM that can even be installed on the Moto X? How mature is it?
Thanks! Just trying to see what my options are.
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Permissions (Only works on 4.3-4.4)- LINK
Ads- LINK
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DO A LOT WITH THIS

gokart2 said:
Permissions (Only works on 4.3-4.4)- LINK
Ads- LINK
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DO A LOT WITH THIS
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Once rooted, AdAway is a really good app. I like how it uses the phones Host file, the same method I use to block ads on my computer.

I went with the xposed way.
Everything works like a charm.
Until I got a message "New system software available!" It asks me to upgrade to 4.4.2.
What does this mean? Do I have to revert all changes I've done so far? I clicked No, maybe later just to be safe. But what is usually done in this scenario?

sksol said:
I went with the xposed way.
Everything works like a charm.
Until I got a message "New system software available!" It asks me to upgrade to 4.4.2.
What does this mean? Do I have to revert all changes I've done so far? I clicked No, maybe later just to be safe. But what is usually done in this scenario?
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It would probably fail if you did take the update since you have made modifications to the Stock ROM. You have to be 100% Stock without any modifications to take the Update.

Brand new, 4.2.2, Any reason not to update to latest firmware?

Hi folks,
Just got my TF701T from Amazon on the $279 deal. I've connected it to my wifi but have not even set up a google account for it yet. It's doing an initial charge.
Is there any compelling reason not to let the update happen? The main short term use for the tablet will be that my 7 year old son will play games on it. Eventually, I'd still like to unlock it and maybe to a custom OS, but for now it's plain Jane use.
The only special thing I might want to do is get Helium/Carbon going so I can backup / restore game positions for him... I've got his status on several games saved from another tablet that had root and I backed them up. Would like to restore if possible. Does this require root?
Thanks. Looking forward to advice.
Marc

Hi, before giving my opinion, I would suggest you to look through the forum while you are here. That said, I have some opinions against updating to 4.4.2. The main reason is that there are some battery issues on that boot loader for some unknown reason. Also, there is no root exploit available for the 4.4.2 version without having to unlock the boot loader. I was told that 4.3 was the best to stay on right now if you can.I just recently got my tablet too from that same deal. On 4.3 there is a easy root exploit called towelroot available, so you can root without unlocking.
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I also believe that carbon needs root for using it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!!

royredman said:
Hi, before giving my opinion, I would suggest you to look through the forum while you are here. That said, I have some opinions against updating to 4.4.2. The main reason is that there are some battery issues on that boot loader for some unknown reason. Also, there is no root exploit available for the 4.4.2 version without having to unlock the boot loader. I was told that 4.3 was the best to stay on right now if you can.I just recently got my tablet too from that same deal. On 4.3 there is a easy root exploit called towelroot available, so you can root without unlocking.
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I also believe that carbon needs root for using it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!!
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Thanks. I've used Carbon and believed it requires root, too. I'm a bit surprised that Towelroot wouldn't work on 4.4.2, as it was originally designed for 4.4.2 on Samsung and similar related kernel units. I've used it on my Samsung S4, and it required being on a pretty up to date 4.4.2 build. Wouldn't work on 4.3. But it may be different on the Asus.
I saw a mention off battery drain on 4.4.2 but without details. I'll continue looking. For now I've charged then powered off the tablet. No time to set it up tonight anyway. Seems like a very nice unit though.
Thanks for your reply!
Marc

Frankenscript said:
Thanks. I've used Carbon and believed it requires root, too. I'm a bit surprised that Towelroot wouldn't work on 4.4.2, as it was originally designed for 4.4.2 on Samsung and similar related kernel units. I've used it on my Samsung S4, and it required being on a pretty up to date 4.4.2 build. Wouldn't work on 4.3. But it may be different on the Asus.
I saw a mention off battery drain on 4.4.2 but without details. I'll continue looking. For now I've charged then powered off the tablet. No time to set it up tonight anyway. Seems like a very nice unit though.
Thanks for your reply!
Marc
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Yeah, from what I understand, towelroot worked on the galaxy s4 (my current awesome phone) because the exploit wasn't patched at that time for the phone, but sadly Asus patched it as for the 4.4.2 drain, Netflix seems to be one of the couple of apps that is really draining power. Not really sure about it, but I'm probably not going to update until the next update is released.

royredman said:
Yeah, from what I understand, towelroot worked on the galaxy s4 (my current awesome phone) because the exploit wasn't patched at that time for the phone, but sadly Asus patched it as for the 4.4.2 drain, Netflix seems to be one of the couple of apps that is really draining power. Not really sure about it, but I'm probably not going to update until the next update is released.
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Thanks. I read up a bit and indeed see how they patched the exploit before the 4.4.2 build, so sadly no Towelroot in Kitkat for us, without unlocking the bootloader and voiding warranty.
Since I will be using the tablet just for kid use, 4.3 will be just fine for now. Which of the (US) firmwares is the best to flash? I'm having some trouble relating the build numbers listed to the "4.2.2 / 4.3 / 4.4.2 etc" nomenclature. I've been reviewing the Device Essential Material thread but I'm still learning the ropes on the Asus.
So as I understand it, I get the right one downloaded, unzip it (one level), put it in sdcard root directory, reboot, and it auto-applies. Is that correct? Then Towelroot,, presumably SuperSU, then I can freeze the update processes with TiBU or somesuch. IS there a good description of what to freeze to prevent further update notices?
Anything else I should know? I'm still catching up.
Marc
PS. Based on THIS POST it sounds like I want 10.26.1.18 . Do you agree?

Frankenscript said:
Thanks. I read up a bit and indeed see how they patched the exploit before the 4.4.2 build, so sadly no Towelroot in Kitkat for us, without unlocking the bootloader and voiding warranty.
Since I will be using the tablet just for kid use, 4.3 will be just fine for now. Which of the (US) firmwares is the best to flash? I'm having some trouble relating the build numbers listed to the "4.2.2 / 4.3 / 4.4.2 etc" nomenclature. I've been reviewing the Device Essential Material thread but I'm still learning the ropes on the Asus.
So as I understand it, I get the right one downloaded, unzip it (one level), put it in sdcard root directory, reboot, and it auto-applies. Is that correct? Then Towelroot,, presumably SuperSU, then I can freeze the update processes with TiBU or somesuch. IS there a good description of what to freeze to prevent further update notices?
Anything else I should know? I'm still catching up.
Marc
PS. Based on THIS POST it sounds like I want 10.26.1.18 . Do you agree?
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You can use any on. I just used the one that was on my tablets before (which was US). 10.26.1.18 is the 4.3 file to grab. Yup, unzip once and put it on the sd root file. For me, when I rebooted it, it let me know that there was a downloaded update detected (NOT the normal "click this button to download the system update")(be really careful about that one). Once I tapped the detected update file, it showed me it was the 10.26.1.18 file and I told it to install it.
If you want to see what to freeze, go into the towelroot thread in the Q&A section and look for my posts on the last page or so. I was asking exactly the same thing and they answered it all for me. Good luck and let me know if it goes well!!

Frankenscript said:
Thanks. I read up a bit and indeed see how they patched the exploit before the 4.4.2 build, so sadly no Towelroot in Kitkat for us, without unlocking the bootloader and voiding warranty.
Since I will be using the tablet just for kid use, 4.3 will be just fine for now. Which of the (US) firmwares is the best to flash? I'm having some trouble relating the build numbers listed to the "4.2.2 / 4.3 / 4.4.2 etc" nomenclature. I've been reviewing the Device Essential Material thread but I'm still learning the ropes on the Asus.
So as I understand it, I get the right one downloaded, unzip it (one level), put it in sdcard root directory, reboot, and it auto-applies. Is that correct? Then Towelroot,, presumably SuperSU, then I can freeze the update processes with TiBU or somesuch. IS there a good description of what to freeze to prevent further update notices?
Anything else I should know? I'm still catching up.
Marc
PS. Based on THIS POST it sounds like I want 10.26.1.18 . Do you agree?
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You got it.
The .18 firmware is the JB 4.3. But stick to your SKU (US, WW - whatever it is now).
Once rooted freeze DMClient and CMClient and you won't be bothered with OTA updates.

Thanks! It's all done.
For anyone who reads this and needs to do the same thing, it was super easy. Just plugged the new Tab into the PC via USB, opened up to "Internal Storage", copied the UL-K00C-US-10.26.1.18-user.zip file over there, and rebooted. It auto-applied, rebooted again. Eventually I had to delete the .zip file from the internal storage, because on each reboot it would notice it and spend time figuring out if it had new updates or not.
Then Towelroot, SuperSU, and used App Quarantine-Root to freeze DMClient and CMClient. Rebooted again and no more update waiting for download messages.
I'm good to go!

royredman said:
Hi, before giving my opinion, I would suggest you to look through the forum while you are here. That said, I have some opinions against updating to 4.4.2. The main reason is that there are some battery issues on that boot loader for some unknown reason. Also, there is no root exploit available for the 4.4.2 version without having to unlock the boot loader. I was told that 4.3 was the best to stay on right now if you can.I just recently got my tablet too from that same deal. On 4.3 there is a easy root exploit called towelroot available, so you can root without unlocking.
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I also believe that carbon needs root for using it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!!
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First, i can confirm battery issues with 4.4.2. Android sometimes does not go to deepsleep (even if there are no addition apps installed, it seems a general problem). If i charge the tablet to 100% and go to bed, on the next morning i can be glad, if i have 30% battery left. Not always, but every 2.nd or 3rd night.
Second, a little question. Becauce of this "bug" i'd like to root my tablet and use a custom rom. I would like to use this method "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604462 <- [MOD] JB 4.3+ | TF701T | Flashable Root Method v2 | Asus Stock 10.26.1.7/18
My first problem is the unlock app from asus. On the support site a text says: "1. Only suitable for Android4.2 Jelly Bean OS version" . But, according to most of the threads here, i should also work with 4.4.2??
The second question is, if the root method i just linked, works without any problems with the last asus update 4.4.2?
Using the tablet with this battery issue is horrible.
Thanks!

Hypothetix said:
First, i can confirm battery issues with 4.4.2. Android sometimes does not go to deepsleep (even if there are no addition apps installed, it seems a general problem). If i charge the tablet to 100% and go to bed, on the next morning i can be glad, if i have 30% battery left. Not always, but every 2.nd or 3rd night.
Second, a little question. Becauce of this "bug" i'd like to root my tablet and use a custom rom. I would like to use this method "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604462 <- [MOD] JB 4.3+ | TF701T | Flashable Root Method v2 | Asus Stock 10.26.1.7/18
My first problem is the unlock app from asus. On the support site a text says: "1. Only suitable for Android4.2 Jelly Bean OS version" . But, according to most of the threads here, i should also work with 4.4.2??
The second question is, if the root method i just linked, works without any problems with the last asus update 4.4.2?
Using the tablet with this battery issue is horrible.
Thanks!
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Reg. Battery drain: Did you run Netflix on those nights you had that severe battery drain?
Reg. Unlock: The tool should work on any fimware version. Just run it. Worst case scenario: It won't work.
Reg. Root: Why would you root the stock rom if you want to replace it with a custom rom anyway?
To install a custom rom you need to:
A) unlock the bootloader
B) flash a custom recovery in fastboot
C) create a nandroid of your stock rom in recovery
D) wipe cache, Dalvik and data using your custom recovery
E) flash the custom rom (which is rooted anyway).
For general reference on flashing custom roms to the Transformer, check out my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688891
NOTE: This is a guide for the TF700!! The general instructions on flashing, fastboot commands etc still apply. The specifics like recovery and version, bootloader and version etc DO NOT.
For TF701 specific instructions check out the OP of the CROMi-X thread in the Development section for the TF701 here on XDA.

berndblb said:
Reg. Battery drain: Did you run Netflix on those nights you had that severe battery drain?
Reg. Unlock: The tool should work on any fimware version. Just run it. Worst case scenario: It won't work.
Reg. Root: Why would you root the stock rom if you want to replace it with a custom rom anyway?
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Thanks. Yes i know. I like the look the stock rom has. Therefore i first wanted to test, if i can stop the battery drain, if i use apps like greenify to send a few apps to deepsleep.
I rooted yesterday and tested it. Unfortunately, even with greenify i have the same problem. Every time i use the keydock, the tablet does not go into deepsleep mode. I checked with wakeup detector if i can find out which app is bad, but there are no apps which wake up the tablet more that 5 or 6 times.... If i use the tablet without the dock i dont have this problem (or just when i use netflix and dont reboot after usage)
Now i will try a custom rom....maybe it helps.
Thanks !

SuperSU and SafetyNet / Android Pay

This is the place to discuss anything and everything related to SuperSU and SafetyNet / Android Pay.
To clarify, I am not currently actively doing any development on having SuperSU pass SafetyNet detection, or having Android Pay work; the same way I put no effort into beating other root detection methods such as various enterprise security tools.
In case any SuperSU-rooted device passes SafetyNet, that is a bug in SafetyNet, not a feature of SuperSU.
While I may not agree with Google's stance, I'm not about to go messing with payment systems. Is it possible though? Probably yes.
This thread has been created because you guys simply cannot stop talking about this, so these posts can now go here, where I don't ever have to see them.

Will v2.50 cause Android Pay not to work in 6.0? If so, I am guessing there is no way around it?

0.0 said:
Will v2.50 cause Android Pay not to work in 6.0? If so, I am guessing there is no way around it?
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Root is a no no with android pay and I think custom ROMs are also out at the moment
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Pure Drive GT said:
Hey, thanks for your continued support for root on Android, was just wondering, is google making it harder to achieve decent root privileges, as in they don't want rooted devices or are they just unrelatedly changing up things which forces you guys to adapt?
On another note, is there any progress on root without the modded boot? This is by no means an ETA, just wanted to know if you think it's possible or the situation looks rather dire.
Thanks again for your many efforts!
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Well, just look at Android Pay, it will not allow one to add a credit card if it detects the device is rooted. So yeah, Google definitely wants to stop root, or at least make sure there is a strong dissuasion towards same. It's not a bad thing persae, as Google is just making the devices more secure for the masses. We 'power users' are lucky to have those such as Chainfire working so hard to get us what they can.

mdamaged said:
Well, just look at Android Pay, it will not allow one to add a credit card if it detects the device is rooted. So yeah, Google definitely wants to stop root, or at least make sure there is a strong dissuasion towards same. It's not a bad thing persae, as Google is just making the devices more secure for the masses. We 'power users' are lucky to have those such as Chainfire working so hard to get us what they can.
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Many banking and financial apps restrict access on rooted devices; it's not just Google.
It makes sense in some ways: root access allows running things in the background to either circumvent, monitor, or interrupt program transactions. They're being paranoid, and I don't blame them.
I don't like the Google Pay concept (or Apple's either); like every other encryption or security system, it's destined to eventually be hacked.

mdamaged said:
Well, just look at Android Pay, it will not allow one to add a credit card if it detects the device is rooted. So yeah, Google definitely wants to stop root, or at least make sure there is a strong dissuasion towards same. It's not a bad thing persae, as Google is just making the devices more secure for the masses. We 'power users' are lucky to have those such as Chainfire working so hard to get us what they can.
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Yep, I was able to add my debit card but not credit.
VZW LG G4

mdamaged said:
Well, just look at Android Pay, it will not allow one to add a credit card if it detects the device is rooted. So yeah, Google definitely wants to stop root, or at least make sure there is a strong dissuasion towards same. It's not a bad thing persae, as Google is just making the devices more secure for the masses. We 'power users' are lucky to have those such as Chainfire working so hard to get us what they can.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...hy-android-pay-doesnt-support-rooted-devices/

shaggyskunk said:
Yet the Note 5 has been rooted for at least a couple of weeks
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On Lollipop... And you also have to unlock your bootloader to do that, right? If yes, then you will trip the KNOX, and that mean you will loose some of your device functionality (Samsung Pay for example), without option to take it back. On the Nexus on the other hand, when you want to use Android Pay on Nexus, you can restore your phone to completely stock condition, without any trace of previously used root.
Also, all of this is completely irrelevant to carried device users, since they have a locked bootloaders.

Srandista said:
On Lollipop... And you also have to unlock your bootloader to do that, right? If yes, then you will trip the KNOX, and that mean you will loose some of your device functionality (Samsung Pay for example), without option to take it back. On the Nexus on the other hand, when you want to use Android Pay on Nexus, you can restore your phone to completely stock condition, without any trace of previously used root.
Also, all of this is completely irrelevant to carried device users, since they have a locked bootloaders.
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I believe that it's only at&t and Verizon that locks the bootloader - And none in Canada and many other Countries.
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Had an interesting event, on 2.52.
I unchecked "Enable Superuser" in Settings, to attempt to use Android Pay (Android Pay still wouldn't work). Then, when I rechecked "Enable Superuser", the re-installation of the binary failed, and I was prompted to reboot to try again. However, then I got a boot loop (never even got the opportunity to enter my encryption code). The only way I was able to boot was to re-flash the modified boot.img and re-install SuperSU from the zip (no idea whether both steps were necessary).
I have a Marshmallow Nexus 6, encrypted. For what it's worth, I was previously rooted on 5.1.1, and, after updating to 6.0 and until I re-rooted, I always got a "Your device is corrupt" message on startup, despite being all stock.

NYZack said:
Had an interesting event, on 2.52.
I unchecked "Enable Superuser" in Settings, to attempt to use Android Pay (Android Pay still wouldn't work). Then, when I rechecked "Enable Superuser", the re-installation of the binary failed, and I was prompted to reboot to try again. However, then I got a boot loop (never even got the opportunity to enter my encryption code). The only way I was able to boot was to re-flash the modified boot.img and re-install SuperSU from the zip (no idea whether both steps were necessary).
I have a Marshmallow Nexus 6, encrypted. For what it's worth, I was previously rooted on 5.1.1, and, after updating to 6.0 and until I re-rooted, I always got a "Your device is corrupt" message on startup, despite being all stock.
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Root doesn't have to be enabled for pay to fail. Any time the system partition is modified pay will not work. There was an xda news article on it. A quick Google search involving Android pay and root should find it.

Lrs121 said:
Root doesn't have to be enabled for pay to fail. Any time the system partition is modified pay will not work. There was an xda news article on it. A quick Google search involving Android pay and root should find it.
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I also found that having an unlocked bootloader will stop Pay working. When MM released I decided to go fully back to stock but kept the bootloader unlocked so I could flash MM. Pay still failed, so I've given up and gone rooted again.
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Ch3vr0n said:
@Chainfire if you actually are able to pull off fully working stable root WITHOUT modifying the /system does that mean you MIGHT have opened the door into having root AND still being able to get OTA's?
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osm0sis said:
Yup, all you'd need to do is reflash stock kernel to pass the boot partition EMMC check, or, we could automate restoring the previous stock kernel, flashing the OTA and then injecting the new stock kernel with root after flashing (à la AnyKernel2 or MultiROM). So many exciting possibilities there where custom recoveries are concerned.
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Chainfire said:
Honestly it's not so different from using FlashFire to flash re-flash system, then OTA, then re-root. But it is easier, yes.
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This is indeed exciting. However, I noticed that @Chainfire posted this downside on Google+ :
Andrew Morykin 12:24
This should retain Android Pay, right?
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Chainfire 12:58
+Andrew Morykin if it does, then it's by accident and not by design, and Android Pay will be updated to block it.
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https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/aJbqUZ8PEP4
also, I was confused by this:
Chainfire said:
- I have not tested with encrypted devices
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Aren't
Nexus 6P / angler
angler-mdb08k-boot-systemless.zip
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Nexus 5X / bullhead
bullhead-mdb08i-boot-systemless.zip
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encrypted out of the box?

dabotsonline said:
This is indeed exciting. However, I noticed that @Chainfire posted this downside on Google+ :
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How is that a downside?
It's exactly the same with every other form of root you will ever see. They don't want to support Android Pay (and some other stuff) on rooted devices. If we find a root that allows it, they will update their system to detect and block it. That cat and mouse game will not end as long as Google doesn't want Android Pay on rooted devices.
Maybe someone will make apps/modules that help circumvent this, but it certainly will not be me.
also, I was confused by this:
Aren't
Nexus 6P / angler
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Nexus 5X / bullhead
encrypted out of the box?
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Still can't test what I don't have.

russlowe73 said:
Factory images
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So basically I have to go back to 100% stock using ADB, and then flash the new SuperSU stuff with any custom ROM? If so, what are the benefits of this other than getting Android Pay while rooted?

I'm not sure if anyone has specifically mentioned this, but Android Pay still works with this form of root on the Nexus 6!!

efrant said:
Starting with Android 5.0, OTA updates are now block-based rather than file-based, so any modification to the system partition will cause the OTA to fail, even mounting the system partition as r/w.
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Just to add to this, it's a whole-partition /system patch OTA if the device launched with Lollipop or later, anything that launched with KitKat is still receiving the old file-based patch OTAs. Modifying Settings.apk would likely trip either method for a lot of OTAs though, since it's a pretty central component.
galaxyuserx said:
I use Galaxy s6 G9200 HK with Kernel compiled by me, but i have problem with root 5.1.1 and i think in future too 6.0
These root method is integrated in kernel source or i can integrate with those "boot.img systemless" my selfcompiled kernel?(repack boot.img with kernel compiled by me)
Is possible to work this new root method to android 5.1.1?
I have problem with gain root when i use kernel compiled by me ( STOCK kernel have too this problem BOOTLOOPs and FREEZEs on boot system) and i don't know how slove it :/
I found on chineese forums root integrated in boot.img it working good and isn't comunicat "KERNEL is not SEandroid enforced" but when i try integrate my kernel with this boot.img error with boot system :/
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Yup, it's all ramdisk changes so should be workable on any version of Android. Chainfire left instructions outlining the ramdisk changes in the WIP thread if you want to give it a try.
phishfi said:
I'm not sure if anyone has specifically mentioned this, but Android Pay still works with this form of on the Nexus 6!!
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Yup, seems to be the case with most banking and root-detecting apps... for now.

Can someone with the non-system SU use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground and post the results?
This app is supposed to do the SafetyNet checks cleanly, the same way Android Pay does them.
Would be interesting to see if it succeeds on devices with this new supersu version.

secguy said:
Can someone with the non-system SU use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground and post the results?
This app is supposed to do the SafetyNet checks cleanly, the same way Android Pay does them.
Would be interesting to see if it succeeds on devices with this new supersu version.
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Just ran it and it passed.

Went ahead and installed su on a stock nexus 5, so far working well, android pay does not work but that was me being stupid and changing the host file and dpi before setting it up
I do notice a little input lag after this, not enough to even make me consider removing root, but it is noticeable, anybody else with this?

Question's Regarding 5.3.2

So every post seems to address only 5.3.1. I can't find a SINGLE thing about rooting the 2015 5th gen Fire that runs 5.3.2. Am I the only person not able to find answers? King Root cant unlock, I can't figure out a solution and I can't stand the interface.
Purchased this for my son and he won't even use it. And He's 5. If I can't load CM or another custom rom soon I'm gonna smash it. At least I will feel better afterwards! I HATE that companies do this. Please help!

you can downgrade and then you can root

Ubuntu_noobi said:
So every post seems to address only 5.3.1. I can't find a SINGLE thing about rooting the 2015 5th gen Fire that runs 5.3.2. Am I the only person not able to find answers? King Root cant unlock, I can't figure out a solution and I can't stand the interface.
Purchased this for my son and he won't even use it. And He's 5. If I can't load CM or another custom rom soon I'm gonna smash it. At least I will feel better afterwards! I HATE that companies do this. Please help!
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Fair bit of info on 5.3.2; sorry you couldn't find it. As for rooting simply roll back to 5.3.1 and then use the SuperTool to root (do not use Kingroot directly). See forum index in General thread for additional detail.

Davey126 said:
Fair bit of info on 5.3.2; sorry you couldn't find it. As for rooting simply roll back to 5.3.1 and then use the SuperTool to root (do not use Kingroot directly). See forum index in General thread for additional detail.
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I've tried moving the factory update after downloading it to the DCIM, when trying to update, it states that you can't update because it's an older version of the os. Is it required to side load?

Ubuntu_noobi said:
I've tried moving the factory update after downloading it to the DCIM, when trying to update, it states that you can't update because it's an older version of the os.
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Wrong procedure. See forum index for details, in particular the first two posts in this thread.
Ubuntu_noobi said:
Is it required to side load?
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Yes.

So glad I found this post. Researching the same thing. Trying it out now
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yungskeeme01 said:
So glad I found this post. Researching the same thing. Trying it out now
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Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out

Ubuntu_noobi said:
Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out
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What exactly are you trying to "figure out"? Responded a few days ago with downgrade/rollback links which includes a step-by-step video.

Ubuntu_noobi said:
Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out
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I downgraded to 5.3.1. Rooted the fire and am now running CM 12.1. Very smooth!. Took me a awhile to get since I have a Mac but got it working. Used Rootjunky's YouTube video on how to restore. That's how I downgraded. Then used his Supertool for Mac and rooted. I then installed Flashfire and put CM12 on the tablet.
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Ubuntu_noobi said:
Any new info to share? I still haven't been able to figure it out
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Davey126 already answered it here.
Davey126 said:
Fair bit of info on 5.3.2; sorry you couldn't find it. As for rooting simply roll back to 5.3.1 and then use the SuperTool to root (do not use Kingroot directly). See forum index in General thread for additional detail.
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I also bought the Fire a few days ago and I dealt with 5.3.2 by first using "adb sideload" to go to 5.3.1 and then rooting it.
I had problems with rooting via the SuperTool, as it used an old KingRoot version and after several rooting attempts when it finally succeeded, the SuperTool had problems removing KingRoot and replacing it with SuperSu (this error made it lose root somehow). Same problem occurred when I used the SuperTool but with the newest KingRoot, so instead of using the SuperTool I used newest KingRoot directly and decided not to replace it with SuperSu.
All is fine now, lockscreen ads are gone, AdAway is installed and OTA updates blocked.

amerkiller1995 said:
I used KingRoot directly and decided not to replace it with SuperSu.
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FYI - recognize KingRoot is a shady tool whose authors have uncertain motivations. Even after rooting it continues to send/receive information without apparent reason. One has to question any app that is offered for free and aggressively resists being uninstalled. Given the unknowns I would reconsider the decision to retain KingRoot/KingUser.

amerkiller1995 said:
Davey126 already answered it here.
I also bought the Fire a few days ago and I dealt with 5.3.2 by first using "adb sideload" to go to 5.3.1 and then rooting it.
I had problems with rooting via the SuperTool, as it used an old KingRoot version and after several rooting attempts when it finally succeeded, the SuperTool had problems removing KingRoot and replacing it with SuperSu (this error made it lose root somehow). Same problem occurred when I used the SuperTool but with the newest KingRoot, so instead of using the SuperTool I used newest KingRoot directly and decided not to replace it with SuperSu.
All is fine now, lockscreen ads are gone, AdAway is installed and OTA updates blocked.
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I had the issue with King Root as well. What I did was download a newer version and replaced in the SuperTool folder
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Davey126 said:
FYI - recognize KingRoot is a shady tool whose authors have uncertain motivations. Even after rooting it continues to send/receive information without apparent reason. One has to question any app that is offered for free and aggressively resists being uninstalled. Given the unknowns I would reconsider the decision to retain KingRoot/KingUser.
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Yes, it certainly gives that vibe. However my Fire is just a portable anime player, it's offline and there's nothing on it except anime, so I'll let it be.
BTW KingRoot flagged AdAway as a "risk"
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I had the issue with King Root as well. What I did was download a newer version and replaced in the SuperTool folder
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I've done that, it's in the post you quoted. Still, in the replacing step, the SuperTool deletes KingRoot, but then fails to put SuperSu in its place, it prints some errors to the console like ERR_WRITE or something.

amerkiller1995 said:
Yes, it certainly gives that vibe. However my Fire is just a portable anime player, it's offline and there's nothing on it except anime, so I'll let it be.
BTW KingRoot flagged AdAway as a "risk"
I've done that, it's in the post you quoted. Still, in the replacing step, the SuperTool deletes KingRoot, but then fails to put SuperSu in its place, it prints some errors to the console like ERR_WRITE or something.
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Sorry if I misread it. I used the version included and KingRoot so I replaced it in Supertool and re-rooted using SuperTool and it removed it no issues. Whatever though, it got rooted one way or another!
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Awesome I will try again tonight

Solved!!! Finally!!!
Ubuntu_noobi said:
So every post seems to address only 5.3.1. I can't find a SINGLE thing about rooting the 2015 5th gen Fire that runs 5.3.2. Am I the only person not able to find answers? King Root cant unlock, I can't figure out a solution and I can't stand the interface.
Purchased this for my son and he won't even use it. And He's 5. If I can't load CM or another custom rom soon I'm gonna smash it. At least I will feel better afterwards! I HATE that companies do this. Please help!
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TL;DR: THERE IS NO "One click" OPTION THAT WORKS. I DOWNLOADED ALL OF THEM. IVE TRIED EVERY DAMN ONE OF THEM. STOP SEARCHING. You MUST side load the system with the code necessary to make it capable to root. Downgrading to 5.3.1 was the secret, instead of trying to root on 5.3.2. I made a glossary of the confusing terminology, made a step by step walk through for noobs
SO, having felt encouraged by the response by people on this forum, last night I decided it was worth another try.
I finally figured out what I was missing. IF YOU CURRENTLY HAVE FIREOS VERSION 5.3.1, YOU MUST ROLL IT BACK THRU SIDE LOADING see here: SIDELOAD TUTORIAL
I tried to load straight onto the system disk and caused all kinds of problems. Once I followed that step by step, which TBH, was a lot of pausing and rewinding. I am not familiar with many terms so I made this...
Android Common Terms:
Boot: A sequence of commands written into the underlying software that tells the device what order to operate in
Bootloader: See Previous (this is the sequence I referenced previously)
Locked Bootloader: Think of trying to edit a PDF you did not create... Exactly.
ADB Fastboot: THIS IS A PROGRAM... NOT A FUNCTION. I still get this confused, thinking that it is a quicker version of the boot sequence... IT IS NOT. ADB Fastboot is a program that gives access to the base software code making it reachable to use certain sections of to "edit the PDF".
Custom Recovery: It is the new version of Windows 10 you were updating to when your crappy laptop you JUST bought came with Windows 8.1. Essentially.
Root: Remember the PDF? Well, if you work somewhere that has Adobe Reader, and you see the window on the right pop up with the ability to login to Adobe Online or whatever? Well, rooting is having login credentials to ACTUALLY edit that damn PDF.
Flash: Download from the internet, and install on your hard drive, or SD Card. It actually means you erase whatever is there completely first, then install. It's two steps, which is why they don't just call it installing... I think.
Partition: Have you ever worked in an office with cubicles? Exactly. A partition is a wall that you put up to segregate files, or programs, or whatever.
SuperTool: Based in your computer. RootJunky Went through and basically made one tool that has everything you need for rooting. PROBLEM IS THAT HE TELLS YOU TO DOWNLOAD ADB FASTBOOT AND DRIVERS AND A BUNCH OF STUFF, then says, or you can just download the SuperTool, which means, I now HAVE TWO OF ALL OF IT, and then I spend the next three hours trying to figure out if its the "custom rom that I sideload into the TWRP, or if the Flashed version of the bootloader gets added to the recovery image, but not before the drivers are flashed into the fastboot."
While this doesn't cover a lot, I hope that people in this community understand what it is like for someone unversed in the lingo to grasp exactly what is going on. I don't think we should speak like idiots and elementary students, but I also think we lose a ton of people that may have something to offer one day because they got frustrated with the terminology and gave up. Luckily, I stuck it out and gave it one last chance and I got it.
So, once I downgraded from 5.3.2 to 5.3.1, I went about trying to root the device, which was also a little confusing.
Step 1: Downgrade if you have 5.3.2 to 5.3.1
Step 2: Enable ADB and Debug in the Settings
Step 3: Hold down the Power and Volume Down button, release the power button once the device starts to reboot and a menu will popup
Step 4: Use the volume keys to access the first selection. This is how you access the "sideloading".
Step 5: Open the SuperTool, click on the batch file which should say Auto... because calling it SuperTool would be confusing
Step 6: follow the super easy instructions. Honestly.
It will walk you through the process and get you to the part about Kingroot and FlashFire and eventually root the device.
I honestly hope this helps someone. God knows it would have saved me from spending approximately 30 hours trying to figure this out.

Used KingRoot to root my device, but cannot uninstall it after with SuperSume

I'm using a Samsung-SGH-I537UCUCOC7, Android Version is 5.0.1
TowelRoot didnt work for my device so I used KingRoot as a last resort. However I only wanted to use it to install the root and not have it around as its a bit intrusive. I tried using SuperSume but no matter what I do when I run it, it always stops at 10%. I've tried 5 different times.
Do I have any other options?

Do you have full root or does it go away when you reboot? If you have permanent root and SuperSUMe is not working there is also a script file you can use. You'll have to search for it. I had the same problem with a Kyocera Hydro Icon I had. I ended up using the script, but I think I figured out why at first neither of them were working.
If you could try something as a test for me I'd appreciate it. In my case I rooted the phone with an older version of kingroot, then kingroot updated itself to the new app...but not the new binary. So I unrooted with the newer app and then rerooted with it also so I would have the new binary. After that the script worked for me and I bet SuperSUMe would've too, but I tried the script first.
So try unrooting and rerooting with the newest version then try SuperSUMe...if it fails then try to find the script.

RealWelder said:
Do you have full root or does it go away when you reboot? If you have permanent root and SuperSUMe is not working there is also a script file you can use. You'll have to search for it. I had the same problem with a Kyocera Hydro Icon I had. I ended up using the script, but I think I figured out why at first neither of them were working.
If you could try something as a test for me I'd appreciate it. In my case I rooted the phone with an older version of kingroot, then kingroot updated itself to the new app...but not the new binary. So I unrooted with the newer app and then rerooted with it also so I would have the new binary. After that the script worked for me and I bet SuperSUMe would've too, but I tried the script first.
So try unrooting and rerooting with the newest version then try SuperSUMe...if it fails then try to find the script.
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I used version 5.0.4 of kingroot. How low do you want me to go?
Also the binary thing your talking about I noticed it when I downloaded SuperSU it said it was missing some binary and I couldnt use that app either even after I rooted with KingRoot. It sounds like my only hope is that script you were talking about but I'll try a lower version of KingRoot first. I have no idea where I would look to find that script so I can get more info what I'm suppose to search for let me know.

RemixDeluxe said:
I used version 5.0.4 of kingroot. How low do you want me to go?
Also the binary thing your talking about I noticed it when I downloaded SuperSU it said it was missing some binary and I couldnt use that app either even after I rooted with KingRoot. It sounds like my only hope is that script you were talking about but I'll try a lower version of KingRoot first. I have no idea where I would look to find that script so I can get more info what I'm suppose to search for let me know.
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For me I rooted with whatever version you get from their website, but after you root it downloads and updates itself. I unrooted and rerooted with the update to get the new binary. Also, I'll see if I still have a copy of the script on my cpu. If I do I'll post you a link.
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RealWelder said:
For me I rooted with whatever version you get from their website, but after you root it downloads and updates itself. I unrooted and rerooted with the update to get the new binary. Also, I'll see if I still have a copy of the script on my cpu. If I do I'll post you a link.
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I used version 4.5 instead of the latest 5.0.4 and afterwards ran SuperSume. It got rid of it no problem and I still have my root access. Thank you.
last question, I also own a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. It was my first Android phone ever and I wasnt aware that AT&T keeps the bootloader locked on their phones. Will any amount of begging and crying to them get them to unlock the bootloader? If the answer is no are there any unofficial means to unlock my bootloader for the phone?

RemixDeluxe said:
I used version 4.5 instead of the latest 5.0.4 and afterwards ran SuperSume. It got rid of it no problem and I still have my root access. Thank you.
last question, I also own a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. It was my first Android phone ever and I wasnt aware that AT&T keeps the bootloader locked on their phones. Will any amount of begging and crying to them get them to unlock the bootloader? If the answer is no are there any unofficial means to unlock my bootloader for the phone?
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Not too sure but I think it's possible. They unlocked and rooted the verizon and t-mobile versions, so possibly...maybe even by the same process. Search youtube.