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Is the N6 still worth it ? vs 5X ?

Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?

biascoblix said:
Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
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You can find it on places like swappa for alot less.
The size does take a bit to get used to. Not to much though.

zelendel said:
You can find it on places like swappa for alot less.
The size does take a bit to get used to. Not to much though.
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Yea, It's a lot cheaper there...
XT1103 vs XT1100 !? Is there any difference beside the Bands ? They run the same rom/kernel, right ?

biascoblix said:
...The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker....
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I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.

biascoblix said:
Yea, It's a lot cheaper there...
XT1103 vs XT1100 !? Is there any difference beside the Bands ? They run the same rom/kernel, right ?
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That depends on where you live. One is for the US and North America and the others is for the rest of the world. That depends on if you can connecto to 4g/3g where you are.
I got my not to long ago for 300. Not new but from a trusted source and cant be happier with it.

triguyrn said:
I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
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Mostly because too many people that are making them are using subpar parts. The tech will take a few years to take hold. I am in the same boat. I am in no rush to change. Right now I have one cable for all my devices. I dont want to have to carry another cable around.

triguyrn said:
I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
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Well, currently for me... An Old USB port is much better... I won't have to buy and carry adapters with me wherever I go... Maybe in 2 or 3 years when USB C become more mainstream, I'd sure buy a phone with a USB C. But now, NO !
And the fact that some of the adapters being sold on Amazon can be considered deadly for your device and can cause problems is another downside...
zelendel said:
That depends on where you live. One is for the US and North America and the others is for the rest of the world. That depends on if you can connecto to 4g/3g where you are.
I got my not to long ago for 300. Not new but from a trusted source and cant be happier with it.
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So, the only difference is the bands... Okay, I'm looking into swappa right now... If I can't find a good one.. I'll just buy a new one from local retailer here... 350$ with a 1 year warranty...

biascoblix said:
Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
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Your brain and hands are used to the Nexus 6 size quite fast and after that there is no going back to a 5-5,5 inch screen imo. Besides the camera and fingerprint scanner the N6 is superior to the 5X , especialy the speakers are much better and i think the screen is very good.

gee2012 said:
Your brain and hands are used to the Nexus 6 size quite fast and after that there is no going back to a 5-5,5 inch screen imo. Besides the camera and fingerprint scanner the N6 is superior to the 5X , especialy the speakers are much better and i think the screen is very good.
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Is the camera that bad ?

biascoblix said:
Is the camera that bad ?
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With sufficient lighting the pics by the N6 are oke to good, the 5X`s camera is a bit better with low light conditions but not dramaticaly afaik.

OK, Thanks for your help guys..

biascoblix said:
Is the camera that bad ?
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Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.

triguyrn said:
Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
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I'm not a huge camera guy anyway. I'm more of heavy user though and somehow a gamer... I think the camera in general is more than decent, right ?
and the face that It has OIS is a huge plus for me, both 6P and 5X cameras are horrible in videos in term of shackiness

biascoblix said:
I'm not a huge camera guy anyway. I'm more of heavy user though and somehow a gamer... I think the camera in general is more than decent, right ?
and the face that It has OIS is a huge plus for me, both 6P and 5X cameras are horrible in videos in term of shackiness
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yeah, it's acceptable. The issue that I have is the camera simply not letting enough light in in those dark situations. It's workable though, and in adequate lighting with HDR and OIS it makes it a good shooter. I absolutely love this phone and actually just ordered a replacement.It is going to have update support for a while and is a beastly device.

triguyrn said:
yeah, it's acceptable. The issue that I have is the camera simply not letting enough light in in those dark situations. It's workable though, and in adequate lighting with HDR and OIS it makes it a good shooter. I absolutely love this phone and actually just ordered a replacement.It is going to have update support for a while and is a beastly device.
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Yea, I'm already getting ready to order it....
Can't wait to get my hands on it

triguyrn said:
Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
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lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky

simms22 said:
lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
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Your photos do look great....
I've seen enough already... The Nexus 6 Camera with a Manual Camera app does take amazing photos...

coming from nexus 5, the N6 went for as little as 250 USD on amazon during the week after black Friday. I got it for 289$. Camera is good for a smartphone camera. the new camera app is much faster on everything. timely updates from Google or XDA. I would choose 5x because its a plastic LG anyway. if night pics and fingerprint are a must, you have other choices better then 5x at that base price.
the only con of N6 is dimensions, and that only your hands will complain. but your eyes will thank you. Also, as mentioned, there is no going back from 6 inch screen.

I haven't had my hands on the 5x or the 6p. I did come from the HTC One Max (after being my dd, the LCD died suddenly and so did the charge port). Bought a HTC One M7 as a replacement. Took time readjusting to a more common screen size. Then upgraded to the N6. I couldn't be happier. Plus, I've always been a Motorola fanboy. I came from an iPhone 4 and switched to a Droid 4. I like the feel of N6 and the ease of unlocking the BL and rooting. I actually have mine underclocked to 2.2ghz with custom hotplugging that uses only 2 cores most of time unless under heavy load. Camera is nice. It's not the best out there, but you can't argue with 13mp shooter. I installed the M9 camera apk and it works nicely as well. Only thing that will draw me away from the N6 in future years will be something of higher caliber that INCLUDES Expandable SD.
Did I mention the incredible battery life I get?

simms22 said:
lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
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Well, the majority of my photography takes place on Snapchat which has no manual mode and fairly poor Android support so, my experience has been different then yours. You have proved to me though if you use manual settings and put a little effort in, the nexus 6 can take pretty nice outdoor shots that are not horrendous. I'm sorry.

Should i get a nexus 6?

Hello, i was wondering if its worth getting a nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250. im just scared of the battery bulge problem, any advice will be great.

I'm using it for 2 years and didn't face any battery bulge problem, at least not yet.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

The phones dated march 2015 or later did not suffer the battery bulge problems.

Simplyeduardo said:
Hello, i was wondering if its worth getting a nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250. im just scared of the battery bulge problem, any advice will be great.
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Quite a few people got phones with bad speakers. They make hissing crackling sounds when the battery gets to lower percentages. Mine does this and it's a minor annoyance. Everything else about this device to me is SWEET! I LOVE my Nexus 6, but it's roulette getting a device without the speaker issue. Like I said, minor annoyance and totally usable without too much issue, but noticeable nonetheless. Great phone however, love mine.

Simplyeduardo said:
Hello, i was wondering if its worth getting a nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250. im just scared of the battery bulge problem, any advice will be great.
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Personally I would say Go For It...especially at that price!
I got my Nexus 6 in March of 2015 and Love It. So far it is the best phone I have owned so far. And that is say a lot since I previously owned the HTC EVO, HTC M7, and HTC M8.

Simplyeduardo said:
.... nexus 6 sealed in box bought in june 2015 for 250.
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Keep your 250 and by a newer model.
In a few months their will be complete new Nexus models.
I am using N6 for about 2 years.
Out of the box the battery life wasn't enough for intensive use between 9 to 17. Cause the white user interface. I needed to unlock the bootloader and root the N6 to change the dpi and install layers and apps with a black background.
The N6 is good but the Google stuff is not.

Personally I would say for the next few months, try to put away $50-$100 each month until the new devices are released. While this phone is still operable for the age it is at, it lacks a few things such as fingerprint scanner and a nice camera. Not to mention the size, which can be off-putting for some.
My suggestion - Save your pennies and buy something with a Snapdragon 820+...That is at least my plan.

For 250.00 its still a solid option. The camera is fine and finger print scanner is not a huge deal. I would say it is a bit better then "operable". You will be looking at spending 600.00 to get the newest Nexus when it drops.

@smokinjoe2122: What do you define as "nice" in regards to the camera?
I personally find the camera to be quite excellent. It's no substitute for a dedicated camera if you have one. At the same time the best camera in the world will not help you if it's sitting in the camera bag when you need to get a picture.
Case in point, this picture would not have happened if I had to look for a dedicated camera in a bag. However, because I had my N6 on me, a seagull casually standing on a car was immortalized. But à chacun leur propre.
None of the things you mentioned, except for the size, are truly dealbreakers. The size can be intimidating, but to gain converts to the cause you simply have to time it right and hope they can keep an open mind. I managed to convert my roommate to a large-screen phone simply by letting her play with my N6 for a little while after I had gotten it. She got a Moto X Pure two months ago and couldn't be happier.
@Simplyeduardo, go ahead and spend the money, but you might want to invest in an OTG drive while you're at it. Especially if the phone only has 32GB of storage on it.

To answer your questions:
Comparing my Nexus 6 camera to my girlfriend's Nexus 5x, the difference is night and day, especially when it comes to HDR or low light pictures. There's also missing support for the latest features such as 4k video.
I also feel like finger print scanners are getting even more important for things such as Android pay and enterprise applications. If you've used an iPhone, many applications can be locked down with security only to be unlocked by the fingerprint scanner or pin. The Nexus 6 unfortunately will never have that technology (Sure you can use a pin, but FP is much better imho).
Lastly, the performance of this phone isn't the worst out there, but it defintely isn't the best. There's plenty of posts here and on Reddit that talk about performance issues, lag, stutters, ect. I for one can validate that, and I have a feeling it'll only get worse as Android will be designed to run better on the newer generation hardware.
So, do you spend $250 on a 1.5-2 year old phone, or do I put away another hundred to two hundred and get the newer generation Nexus or OnePlus 3?

my november 2014 bought n6 has an ever so slight buldge, with the back cover raised about 1mm(yes, barely). i bought mine for the full $650, plus tax. anyways, ive never even considered getting it relaced, as it does absolutely no harm to me or my use. ok, i cant use my n6 under water for sure, or water will get in..
but for $250, i wouldnt even think about it.

With all the development we have these phones are still relevant, and will be for quite some time. I used to trade up every 6 months to a year, but I have had this phone for almost 2 years now and see no reason to get a new one. IMHO a new phone wouldn't be an upgrade anyhow, we would have to wait on development. Just look at all the sweet mods and roms these awesome devs. Have created for us! There's something for everyone. Good luck, Happy flashing.

smokinjoe2122 said:
To answer your questions:
So, do you spend $250 on a 1.5-2 year old phone, or do I put away another hundred to two hundred and get the newer generation Nexus or OnePlus 3?
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Question in the singular. I only asked one.
The larger CCD pixels in the sensor do make a difference, I do admit. Especially if using the Google camera app as it is barebones. However, switch the camera app to one with manual controls and that advantage is lost, since it's possible to adjust not only the ISO of the camera, but how long the shutter stays open. If you adjust the ISO to 1600 or more, you improve the sensitivity of the CCD. If you can control the length of time the shutter is opened, more light is let in. Recording more light is the name of the game.
The camera is not a deal breaker. It's a good camera that gets better when coupled with the right software. 4K video is a non-starter to me, i.e. it's irrelevant.
Fingerprint scanners are a security hole, since you can be compelled to unlock your phone without need of a warrant. One of the reasons I DIDN'T spring for a 6P at Christmas 2015 was because of the fingerprint scanner. So, not a deal breaker.
As someone who has used Touchwiz, I'm very familiar with lag. I have yet to see any lag on this device. But not everyone is as fortunate as I am, I guess.
I still would recommend this phone over other Nexus devices. The 1+3 is a tougher sell.

OnePlus 3T - Bad Experience?

This has been my first Android phone since probably the Nexus 5. I've been on iOS ever since then. iOS has been great. The phones were always fast and they always worked. Camera was also really good. My experiences were great. Although the phones were overpriced and they were from Apple which I hated tbh.
So I decided to switch over to Android.
First impressions with the OnePlus 3T were pretty good. The phone's screen was awesome and the battery was incredible! I was on 3.5.3 and I was really enjoying the phone. But then shortly after that, the problems started coming in.
First, the issues with T-Mobile started popping up. I was getting EXTREMELY slow network speeds. I mean they were 0.34 - 1.60mbps DLs and around 1.2 - 2.0mbps upload on a good day an excellent coverage. I was having trouble streaming Spotify. I couldn't really get around it until I upgraded to 3.5.4. Now the speeds are decent with around 10mbps DLs and 3mbps upload. Still much slower then what I had on my iPhone. But upgrading to this OS has decreased battery life significantly! I can barely get a day out of my phone now with moderate use. I've tried clearing cache, checking rogue apps but still it's just horrible.
Second, camera is pretty bad. It's a bit slow at times and low light performance is pretty bad. And this isn't like extreme low light. I'm talking about if I were in a dim room the pictures would come out grainy and dark. Not sure if this is software related or hardware.
Third, I feel as if OnePlus support is pretty bad. Is this just me? I've been looking at other posts throughout they're phone releases and it always seems as if they have problems one way or another.
I don't know. Where my expectations too high when switching to Android again? I mean I know this is a "budget" phone so I shouldn't be expecting too much but I really wanted the phone to work one way or another. What do you guys think? Will OnePlus eventually be able to fix the quirks in the software?

Here is another guy who just switched and kind of having similar issue. I guess the price is around 1/3 so i have reduced my expectations to 1/3 which in a way 1+3T is performing better than that.

NoLunchBox_ said:
This has been my first Android phone since probably the Nexus 5. I've been on iOS ever since then. iOS has been great. The phones were always fast and they always worked. Camera was also really good. My experiences were great. Although the phones were overpriced and they were from Apple which I hated tbh.
So I decided to switch over to Android.
First impressions with the OnePlus 3T were pretty good. The phone's screen was awesome and the battery was incredible! I was on 3.5.3 and I was really enjoying the phone. But then shortly after that, the problems started coming in.
First, the issues with T-Mobile started popping up. I was getting EXTREMELY slow network speeds. I mean they were 0.34 - 1.60mbps DLs and around 1.2 - 2.0mbps upload on a good day an excellent coverage. I was having trouble streaming Spotify. I couldn't really get around it until I upgraded to 3.5.4. Now the speeds are decent with around 10mbps DLs and 3mbps upload. Still much slower then what I had on my iPhone. But upgrading to this OS has decreased battery life significantly! I can barely get a day out of my phone now with moderate use. I've tried clearing cache, checking rogue apps but still it's just horrible.
Second, camera is pretty bad. It's a bit slow at times and low light performance is pretty bad. And this isn't like extreme low light. I'm talking about if I were in a dim room the pictures would come out grainy and dark. Not sure if this is software related or hardware.
Third, I feel as if OnePlus support is pretty bad. Is this just me? I've been looking at other posts throughout they're phone releases and it always seems as if they have problems one way or another.
I don't know. Where my expectations too high when switching to Android again? I mean I know this is a "budget" phone so I shouldn't be expecting too much but I really wanted the phone to work one way or another. What do you guys think? Will OnePlus eventually be able to fix the quirks in the software?
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I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though

bert90987 said:
I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
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iOS is laggy as hell, at least on my iPhone 7 Plus.. Many skipped frames in animations.

Michalko5896 said:
iOS is laggy as hell, at least on my iPhone 7 Plus.. Many skipped frames in animations.
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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
Is there a particular application you are referring to?
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bert90987 said:
I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
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That is very true. It's like a trade off. Android is very free and customizable while iOS is very restrictive. Jailbreaking helps but not as much as Android.
I mean don't get me wrong, I like this phone. There's just trade offs I guess with it. Honestly, if I were to get the battery life of 3.5.3 and the LTE band modifications from 3.5.4, I would say this phone would be near perfect. At least for me, in my opinion.
Hopefully it happens with Android N.

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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
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Very odd. Never had any issues with my 6s. It ran smooth as hell. Cache did build up once and got laggy but I had it jailbroken and cleared it up. Ran perfect after that.

bert90987 said:
That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
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No, the whole system is laggy. Just google iPhone 7 Plus lag. 6s and 6p are both much smoother. S6 is just a lagfest.

Michalko5896 said:
No, the whole system is laggy. Just google iPhone 7 Plus lag. 6s and 6p are both much smoother. S6 is just a lagfest.
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I know that initially it wasn't optimized great (the iPhone 7 plus) but 10.2 seems to work fine for me. I definitely experience more lag and random heat up of the devices with the Nexus 6p and S6 edge plus both on Marshmallow. I sold them before Nougat so I can't speak for their performance with those updates.

I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!

Amd4life said:
I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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Any phone on the cheaper end that you'd recommend that has a good DAC? thanks

bert90987 said:
Any phone on the cheaper end that you'd recommend that has a good DAC? thanks
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ZTE Axon 7?

Michalko5896 said:
ZTE Axon 7?
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That's true.
I have been thinking about getting a portable dac to use with any smartphone though. the highest impedance headphones I have are 250 ohms. they're not really portable but would be nice to try out.

Amd4life said:
I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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I agree. For the price, this phone is really hard to beat! Like I said, I do like it, just wish I could use 3.5.3 with the LTE bands fix for T-Mobile that's in 3.5.4.
I've used multiple Android phones in the past. This has been one of the most fluid and smooth devices I have yet to use. At this point, I'm just giving it time. Hopefully the software (new OOS) does make the phone better.
Guess you can't complain when this phone is under $500.

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Axon 7 (not as smooth) $350 off swappa
LG v10 (not as smooth) $250 off Swappa
HTC 10 $400 off swappa

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Axon 7 (not as smooth) $350 off swappa
LG v10 (not as smooth) $250 off Swappa
HTC 10 $400 off swappa
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Thanks

NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.

alvin182 said:
NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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That sucks. hopefully you have it fixed quickly.

alvin182 said:
NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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Damn that sucks dude. Hopefully you get it fixed. Everyone's talked so highly of OnePlus before but just doesn't like a great company.
Hope you get it fixed man!

Looks like the Android N update has made my phone a lot more smooth and battery life seems to be a lot better than 3.5.4. Fingers crossed. Good thing I decided to wait it out.

Note 8 or One Plus 5

Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Effect in screen
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
Note 8 Thread: Link Here
OnePlus 5 Thread: Link Here
Thank you guys. After a long comparison, I'm going for the OP5 even with the rumors of OP5T. I just hate the back fingerprint scanner placements which is the trend now. And regarding with the bezels, I'm more into those phone with bezels on top and bottom for landscape usage. I've been trying the S8+, and some games that I play doesn't maximize or utilize the whole screen which leaves some part of the screen blank. However, the screen in the Note 8 is A1 dont get me wrong, but I'm more into the performance and the OP5's screen is enough. Thank you guys!

For me would have gone oneplus 5,cause that thing is crazy fast. However the jello, jelly put me right off. And the fact that oneplus 5,would not until now come out in the open about it, really bugged me and beggars belief!. You can see the problem as soon as you pick the device up, so that reason I went note 8 and it's been an amazing experience. I haven't played games on it yet, still enjoying just browsing, multimedia, taking photos of my munchkins etc.

I had the oneplus 5 like 4 phones ago and it was great. No issues whatsoever, no jelly or any of the other issues you mentioned tbh. Bang for bucks it is the best phone you can get. Great for flashing and whatnot. That being said the note 8 has so much more added value and the exynos has a dev community that should keep you flash happy for years to come...

marvi0 said:
For me would have gone oneplus 5,cause that thing is crazy fast. However the jello, jelly put me right off. And the fact that oneplus 5,would not until now come out in the open about it, really bugged me and beggars belief!. You can see the problem as soon as you pick the device up, so that reason I went note 8 and it's been an amazing experience. I haven't played games on it yet, still enjoying just browsing, multimedia, taking photos of my munchkins etc.
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Ah yes, the jelly effect. I've also heard it too and seen it in facebook. That thing also prevents me in purchasing this device. However, some owners claimed that their device has small to no signs of jelly effect in their device. So I think they have fixed it now, I wish. Thank you for your comment
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I had the oneplus 5 like 4 phones ago and it was great. No issues whatsoever, no jelly or any of the other issues you mentioned tbh. Bang for bucks it is the best phone you can get. Great for flashing and whatnot. That being said the note 8 has so much more added value and the exynos has a dev community that should keep you flash happy for years to come...
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I see. I heard that Snapdragon version is more strict in terms of tweaking than the Exynos version. Thank you for you reply!

lazygeniuslanz said:
Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Effect in screen
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
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I a solution for you to avoid those listed "issues" if you decide to buy a Note 8.
Just find a open box or used one and inspect it fully before handing over the money.
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marvi0 said:
For me would have gone oneplus 5,cause that thing is crazy fast. However the jello, jelly put me right off. And the fact that oneplus 5,would not until now come out in the open about it, really bugged me and beggars belief!. You can see the problem as soon as you pick the device up, so that reason I went note 8 and it's been an amazing experience. I haven't played games on it yet, still enjoying just browsing, multimedia, taking photos of my munchkins etc.
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Limeybastard said:
I a solution for you to avoid those listed "issues" if you decide to buy a Note 8.
Just find a open box or used one and inspect it fully before handing over the money.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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I've read that solution too haha. And that's a good one. But is there any reason to consider Note 8 for OP5?

lazygeniuslanz said:
I've read that solution too haha. And that's a good one. But is there any reason to consider Note 8 for OP5?
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I can't answer that question as I don't have any experience with the OP5, to be honest.
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lazygeniuslanz said:
I've read that solution too haha. And that's a good one. But is there any reason to consider Note 8 for OP5?
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That's a personal decision. Only you can weigh the pros and cons of each phone... and you seem to have done a great job of listing them.
The SD card is the dealbreaker for me. I carry about 200 GB of hi-res music. At this point, that's difficult to replicate any other way that doesn't involve paying even more for music I already own.

I've had the oneplus5, now currently have the note 8.
The reasons that made me return the oneplus 5 were as follows
- The jelly screen ....once you see it, it'll bug you forever
- The camera in my opinion wasn't all that..the lack of OIS was really annoying. Videos were shaky as hell! (It was improved with software stabilisation, bit it wasn't anything compaired to realtime optical stablisation
I really wanted to like the phone, it's so cheap for what you get and I love how oneplus allow you to root and mod away.
You need to decide what you'd want from your phone

Thanks but.. some of your "CONS" are off. You didnt go with the majority. On some cons.

note 8- tons more features
one plus- easier to mod
its just that simple; YOU decide whats important to YOU

In 3 or so years you probably won't want a phone with all that bezel. I'll venture out and say if you want a phone that won't feel obsolete sooner than later do to design get the note 8 hands down (or s8+).....imo
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louforgiveno said:
In 3 or so years you probably won't want a phone with all that bezel. I'll venture out and say if you want a phone that won't feel obsolete sooner than later do to design get the note 8 hands down (or s8+).....imo
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I think the Note 8 has a higher chance of being obsolete. Reason being the 8GB RAM of the OnePlus 5; it will probably become standard on all devices in 2018 or 2019.
It's not like all that extra screen gives you extra functionality that you won't have if your device has bezels. So I don't see why a device with bezels would become obsolete.
Design is really the last thing you should look at when making your decision. You're gonna use one of those devices, not stare at it and admire its design. You're probably gonna put a case on it anyway, so that whole design aspect flies out the window.

Pwnycorn said:
I think the Note 8 has a higher chance of being obsolete. Reason being the 8GB RAM of the OnePlus 5; it will probably become standard on all devices in 2018 or 2019.
It's not like all that extra screen gives you extra functionality that you won't have if your device has bezels. So I don't see why a device with bezels would become obsolete.
Design is really the last thing you should look at when making your decision. You're gonna use one of those devices, not stare at it and admire its design. You're probably gonna put a case on it anyway, so that whole design aspect flies out the window.
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I respect your opinion but I think you're off a smidge. If design were not important there would be no iPhone X. Expect large bezels to be frowned upon in the 2 years. Bezels will get smaller that's just a fact. 8gb is overkill how will OEMs justify the 8gb when Apple does wonders with 3. 6gb will remain the maximum and 4gb the standard. We might see 8gb again but it sure won't become the norm.
Now I know that I referred to Apple as a reference for both arguments but for better or for worse Android sets trends and they cement it. It's just facts.
Design is the reason why many great devices were overlooked this year IE HTC U11 and Sony Xperia Zx1 or whatever (Saw it, laughed, moved on) I agree with you that in the end, Greater scheme and all, it doesn't matter as beauty is subjective but...
8gb standard? Maybe for Chinese OEMs. Bezels? They're flying out the window as we speak ?

douger1957 said:
That's a personal decision. Only you can weigh the pros and cons of each phone... and you seem to have done a great job of listing them.
The SD card is the dealbreaker for me. I carry about 200 GB of hi-res music. At this point, that's difficult to replicate any other way that doesn't involve paying even more for music I already own.
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Wow, thats a lot of music you have there. I can't even fill my 32gb from my z3c hahaha. Thank you sir!
Ry2mkk said:
I've had the oneplus5, now currently have the note 8.
The reasons that made me return the oneplus 5 were as follows
- The jelly screen ....once you see it, it'll bug you forever
- The camera in my opinion wasn't all that..the lack of OIS was really annoying. Videos were shaky as hell! (It was improved with software stabilisation, bit it wasn't anything compaired to realtime optical stablisation
I really wanted to like the phone, it's so cheap for what you get and I love how oneplus allow you to root and mod away.
You need to decide what you'd want from your phone
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Yeah, the camera in OP5 kinda sucks at videos. I've watched many camera reviews against Note 8 and boy that OP5 videos are shaky but I think they can do better after software updates. However the stills from OP5 looked good that it made the OP5 worth it atleast at good lighting. Don't get me wrong, the Note 8 outputs are better but I guess it doesn't justify the price differences.
Zeblade said:
Thanks but.. some of your "CONS" are off. You didnt go with the majority. On some cons.
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What do you means sir?
wase4711 said:
note 8- tons more features
one plus- easier to mod
its just that simple; YOU decide whats important to YOU
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I see, thank you sir!
Pwnycorn said:
I think the Note 8 has a higher chance of being obsolete. Reason being the 8GB RAM of the OnePlus 5; it will probably become standard on all devices in 2018 or 2019.
It's not like all that extra screen gives you extra functionality that you won't have if your device has bezels. So I don't see why a device with bezels would become obsolete.
Design is really the last thing you should look at when making your decision. You're gonna use one of those devices, not stare at it and admire its design. You're probably gonna put a case on it anyway, so that whole design aspect flies out the window.
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mrnovanova said:
I respect your opinion but I think you're off a smidge. If design were not important there would be no iPhone X. Expect large bezels to be frowned upon in the 2 years. Bezels will get smaller that's just a fact. 8gb is overkill how will OEMs justify the 8gb when Apple does wonders with 3. 6gb will remain the maximum and 4gb the standard. We might see 8gb again but it sure won't become the norm.
Now I know that I referred to Apple as a reference for both arguments but for better or for worse Android sets trends and they cement it. It's just facts.
Design is the reason why many great devices were overlooked this year IE HTC U11 and Sony Xperia Zx1 or whatever (Saw it, laughed, moved on) I agree with you that in the end, Greater scheme and all, it doesn't matter as beauty is subjective but...
8gb standard? Maybe for Chinese OEMs. Bezels? They're flying out the window as we speak
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Hey you guys calm down haha I agree that the design may be obsolete but I think I value the performance than the design itself. I don't want to use a good design phone but stutters or lags even a bit specially when its priced in an almost 1k. But good points guys! :good: :fingers-crossed:

Thank you guys. After a long comparison, I'm going for the OP5 even with the rumors of OP5T. I just hate the back fingerprint scanner placements which is the trend now. And regarding with the bezels, I'm more into those phone with bezels on top and bottom for landscape usage. I've been trying the S8+, and some games that I play doesn't maximize or utilize the whole screen which leaves some part of the screen blank. However, the screen in the Note 8 is A1 dont get me wrong, but I'm more into the performance and the OP5's screen is enough. Thank you guys!

Failing to find N6 replacement - 1+6, Moto G6, Nokia 7+

As described in the title.
I'm failing to find a replacement for my N6..
Pixels are way above the budget.
OnePlus feels like it but lacks stereo speakers, but looks like good enough as camera (ois) and OS (updates,cleaner).
Moto g6 is mid ranger - good value for money, lacks OIS and stereo. Plus OS updates will be long delayed if I compare it with ny wife's G5S Moto.
Nokia 7+ looked promising as design, Android One program, battery. Budget wise - exactly to the point. However missing stereo speakers. And camera looks like disappointment to reviewers due to lack of OIS.
Any thoughts ?

My brother has the Nokia 7+. And I own a Nexus 6. As for comparison, I can say that 7+ is an OKAY upgrade. But sure, N6's speakers are better. 7+ speaker is not bad tho. But trust me, you'll miss the amoled display. 7+ cameras are awesome, don't listen to reviewers. Install gcam and viola, pixel quality shots on N7+.
We have the same situation tho. For now, I consider the Xiaomi Mi8 SE and refurbished Pixel XL.
As I wait for a worthy replacement, I am maximizing the life out of my N6. Recently changed the battery, flashed custom ROM & kernel. And man, I never thought this device will still hold its own like it does. Maybe keep this phone until the end of this year. I think we still have to wait for more SD710 phones to come out. But that's just me. Cheers!

@Ivan - thanks! Sounds promising And yes - N6 is still holding on, just I've dropped it. Still has life in it though.
Which ROM do you use?

TodNex said:
@Ivan - thanks! Sounds promising And yes - N6 is still holding on, just I've dropped it. Still has life in it though.
Which ROM do you use?
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I'm on AOSiP 8.1 with Popcorn Kernel v1.4 and it's working very great. Still observing for best battery life tho.
Oh, I forgot to mention, I'm very hyped for the budget Pixel phone with SD710. I think that's the phone for me.. and I feel it. :laugh:
Well, if you can endure the cracked screen for until early 2019, wait for it.

TodNex said:
I'm failing to find a replacement for my N6..
.....Any thoughts ?
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I'm looking for a replacement, including wireless charging.
I wait for a Nokia 8 Sirocco with a lower price.

TodNex said:
Pixels are way above the budget.
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No financing options where you are? I ask because financing through Google is how I got my P2XL.
My N6 though is still seeing use. My roommate preferred it over the Moto X Style (XT1575) I got for her, simply because the screen was larger as well as Android 8.x custom ROMs. That's saying something when an older device is preferred over a newer one, but I digress. I wouldn't go with any of the options you give in your post title however. None of them have quad HD screens and apparently they don't have stereo speakers either. Instead, I'd look into used devices such as on Swappa and get one from there.

Thank you for your replies.
Yes, not easy..N6 proved to be actual in the present, and not easy to replace in mid-range.
Yes Pixels are.very expensive here.
I would go with LineageOS if I was not security freak and doubting about installing Google Apps aside from a site.

OpenGApps.org is a reputable site and has been the "go to" option for years. However, several developers on XDA also have downloadable GApps packages available. I'd hunt for them if you don't trust OpenGApps.org, and then upgrade your N6. Nitrogen is a good choice, better than LineageOS I feel.

Imagine if they revived shamu with 18:9 aspect ratio, fingerprint sensor, usb type c, upgraded camera & SoC, same awesome front firing speakerS. Heck yeah, that's my dream phone!

It already exists. It's called the Pixel 2 XL.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It already exists. It's called the Pixel 2 XL.
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Nah, no headphone jack & wireless charging.
And I also mean the curved back design of shamu.

None of which were on your list. Now, obviously people's mileage will vary here, but wireless charging is something I never used, and as for the headphone jack? I was just like you in thinking I would die without a headphone jack. And then I grew up.
P. S. I rather like phones I can't spin on a desk.

OnePlus 5T seems like such a perfect replacement - probably what I'd get if I were in the market right now. Oneplus has became the de facto nexus replacement after google decided to update its pricing scheme

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It already exists. It's called the Pixel 2 XL.
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No headphone jack on the 2XL. thats a deal breaker for me.

Ta3miyyasandwich said:
OnePlus 5T seems like such a perfect replacement - probably what I'd get if I were in the market right now. Oneplus has became the de facto nexus replacement after google decided to update its pricing scheme
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Thinking about this too. OP5T is still available in my country, 3rd party tho. Will wait for 5T price drops when OP6 arrives here.

I admit that I'd like to see Google buck trends like Samsung, but I don't see it happening. Since there are so few choices out there for decent devices with unlockable bootloaders you will at some point have to decide what you would prefer to give up, whether it be a display without a notch, a headphone jack, or wireless charging.
I can live without the headphone jack, but I also have bluetooth headphones. If I couldn't, I'd be using the USB audio adapter Google provided in the box.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
..., a headphone jack, or wireless charging...
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The only thing I want is wireless charging.
> 4 years of wireless charging and the N6-battery is still good for a day ...

And that is where mileage will vary. I never used wireless charging and don't care if the device has it.

It's too bad Google wants to be like/become Apple. First with the OS now the notch...What's next? Google needs to move away from trying to be Apple before people start to move away from Android. If they haven't started to move away already. I'm also having a hard time finding a worthy phone to replace the Nexus 6...But so far I'm happy staying with it for awhile.

rushier.ivan said:
Imagine if they revived shamu with 18:9 aspect ratio, fingerprint sensor, usb type c, upgraded camera & SoC, same awesome front firing speakerS. Heck yeah, that's my dream phone!
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long live 16:9 :victory: