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[DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone

N4 vs All Other Phones Discussion
Hey all!
I have been meaning to write this thread for a few days now and finally found some time to do so. Basically the name describes it all. This thread is meant to discuss our Nexus 4 vs any and every up coming phone all in one place. The nexus forum is going to be a very popular place once the phone makes it way out to people over the next few months. The purpose of this thread is to try to keep some sort of cleanliness and avoid the dozens of "Is this phone better than the N4" threads every time a new devices is released. Please keep all those discussions confined to this thread. Please keep it civil and remember no flaming or trolling will be allowed. Just a reminder I am certain the Mods will be enforcing this policy in our forum. Thank you all for your cooperation it is greatly appreciated :angel:
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I guess this thread is not working.... ive seen a lot threads sayings nexus 4 vs ?
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dude he just created this thread last night! give it time

mark manning said:
N4 vs All Other Phones Discussion
Hey all!
I have been meaning to write this thread for a few days now and finally found some time to do so. Basically the name describes it all. This thread is meant to discuss our Nexus 4 vs any and every up coming phone all in one place. The nexus forum is going to be a very popular place once the phone makes it way out to people over the next few months. The purpose of this thread is to try to keep some sort of cleanliness and avoid the dozens of "Is this phone better than the N4" threads every time a new devices is released. Please keep all those discussions confined to this thread. Please keep it civil and remember no flaming or trolling will be allowed. Just a reminder I am certain the Mods will be enforcing this policy in our forum. Thank you all for your cooperation it is greatly appreciated :angel: ​
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I love my Nexus 4.....but the only thing i wonder about is why did LG think it is OK to put the headphone jack on the top? My old nexus s has it on the bottom and it makes much more sense there.

This is two different category of phones, but Nexus 4 VS Note 2. Which is better at what and why?

I guess I'll throw my opinion out there...
After owning the first iPhone, 3G, then 3GS I decided to give Android a try with the Nexus One. It was all downhill from there as I was completely sucked into Android. I then went through a few different android phones from the Nexus one > HTC Sensation > Galaxy SII > Galaxy Nexus > Galaxy SIII. I was happy with all of these phones. However, when the iPhone 5 came out I decided it was time to give IOS a try again. I lasted all of 2 weeks with that phone until i realized I really just cannot stand IOS (even as a mac user). But the one thing that made me hesitant in going back to Android was that the build quality of the iPhone 5 is excellent. It was better than any other phone I had ever owned.
When the Nexus 4 was announced and reviews were being posted on many blogs I decided to return the iPhone 5 and pull the Galaxy Nexus out of the nightstand to use until I could get my hands on the N4. People were saying it was the most solid and well built Android phone to date so I was getting excited for it. As of 3 days ago I finally have the N4 in my possession. At first I really liked it but didn't think it was THAT much better than the Galaxy Nexus. But after a few days of real use I have come to learn that this phone truly lives up to the hype. It really is the most well built Android phone I have ever used and it's the first Android phone that I really think can be compared to the iPhone in terms of build quality.
I'm already happier with this phone than I have been with any of my previous phones. It really is of superb quality and I'd recommend it to anyone.

sn0warmy said:
I guess I'll throw my opinion out there...
After owning the first iPhone, 3G, then 3GS I decided to give Android a try with the Nexus One. It was all downhill from there as I was completely sucked into Android. I then went through a few different android phones from the Nexus one > HTC Sensation > Galaxy SII > Galaxy Nexus > Galaxy SIII. I was happy with all of these phones. However, when the iPhone 5 came out I decided it was time to give IOS a try again. I lasted all of 2 weeks with that phone until i realized I really just cannot stand IOS (even as a mac user). But the one thing that made me hesitant in going back to Android was that the build quality of the iPhone 5 is excellent. It was better than any other phone I had ever owned.
When the Nexus 4 was announced and reviews were being posted on many blogs I decided to return the iPhone 5 and pull the Galaxy Nexus out of the nightstand to use until I could get my hands on the N4. People were saying it was the most solid and well built Android phone to date so I was getting excited for it. As of 3 days ago I finally have the N4 in my possession. At first I really liked it but didn't think it was THAT much better than the Galaxy Nexus. But after a few days of real use I have come to learn that this phone truly lives up to the hype. It really is the most well built Android phone I have ever used and it's the first Android phone that I really think can be compared to the iPhone in terms of build quality.
I'm already happier with this phone than I have been with any of my previous phones. It really is of superb quality and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Agree with everything you saud. This is truely the first time Android has had a "premium" feeling phone.

Coming from a nexus s, the nexus 4 is a huge jump. I have read several posts/topics about all the problems people have encountered with the nexus 4 but I have yet to run into any of them. There has not been any screen yellowing, no speaker noise, camera problems, no overheating problems, etc. The build quality is excellent as stated in the previous post. There is a little flex in the device if you try bending it but there isn't and shouldn't be any under normal use. The screen is nice and crisp. I don't see any issues with saturation as some people disliked before. The battery life on the nexus 4 is better than the nexus s, which was plenty enough already. However, there is one area that the nexus s outperforms the nexus 4: the sound quality. Don't get me wrong though, the sound on the nexus 4 isn't bad at all but it could be improved. It would be great if we could get supercurio to add the Qualcomm chip to the list of devices that voodoo sound supports (if we could set up a fund for supercurio to work on this it would be awesome ). Other notes: I really liked the size of the nexus s and I really didn't want to get a larger screen, but the nexus 4 fits great in my hand and I am very happy with the extra screen estate. Overall I am extremely happy with the device and I would highly recommend the upgrade for any nexus s users.
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FlukerFlakes said:
I love my Nexus 4.....but the only thing i wonder about is why did LG think it is OK to put the headphone jack on the top? My old nexus s has it on the bottom and it makes much more sense there.
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better with headphone jack on top when you're pluggin aux in car. and the whole theory of "headphone jack is better on bottom for keeping phone in jeans and listening to music" is a load of crap. there are many ways to reach for your pocket lol, and having the jack on the bottom doesn't make it more convenient

Nexus 4 vs Optimus G
Why do you think Optimus is scoring 7,000 compared to 4,000 of Nexus 4 in quadrant benchmark test? They both got the same HW!

Droid DNA vs Nexus 4
I put this in another thread when I was trying to decided between the N4 and DNA.
Nexus 4 Pros:
-Unlocked bootloader, huge dev community
-Most recent software + updates
-Power button on side
-More affordable phone ($349 16gb) and GSM carriers are more affordable
-No Contract
-Resells well
Nexus 4 Cons:
-Touch screen sensitivity (doesnt register light touches, pinching+scrolling delayed)
-Issues with 4.2
-No LTE (yet, has Band 4 which is coming to Tmo soon and likely the new Google/dish network)
-Nav bar can take away screen real estate on the homescreen and some apps
-Light buzzing sound in earphone
DNA Pros:
-Taller 1080p screen, thin bezel
-Capacitive buttons
-4g LTE
-Mifare Classic NFC chips work
-Minimal amounts of software and hardware bugs, 4.1 is more stable
DNA Cons:
-Likely not to have as many ROM options. No S-OFF yet
-2 year contract! Verizon.
-1080p can result in pixelation or small icons in some games/apps
-Phone is more expensive ($599) and Verizon is more expensive
-MicroUSB cover (not a huge deal with wireless charging)
-Power button on top isnt the easiest to press, bad position too
-4.1 and won't get updates as often
Shared Attributes:
-Can be rooted, bootloader can be unlocked
-LCD Screen
-16gb Internal/No microsd
-Wireless charging
-Battery life ~4.5hrs screen-on time
-Great build quality (matter of opinion here, both are excellent in their own way)

my 2cent is that why people trying to vs nexus 4 to other smartphones out there, with 300-350 to get unlocked phone, fastest updates, no contracts. They say you get what you paid for but to me Nexus 4 is an exception!. Galaxy S3? Note 2? Iphone 5? HTC DNA? best cameras?, best specs?, best battery life?, all those are nice phones! but look at how much you have to pay?.

justFaisal said:
Nexus 4 vs Optimus G
Why do you think Optimus is scoring 7,000 compared to 4,000 of Nexus 4 in quadrant benchmark test? They both got the same HW!
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That'll be because benchmarks don't really prove anything, just like a review doesn't mean anything if it's from someone you don't know.
BTW Mark, I've just added this thread to the Nexus 4 Complete Index with a note telling people not to create any more threads of that kind
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Im super unsure if i want to keep my lumia 920 or keep the nexus 4 (its still enroute to my home).
Basically for me it's Lumia 920 on AT&T LTE vs Google awesomeness on AT&T HSPA.

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Im super unsure if i want to keep my lumia 920 or keep the nexus 4 (its still enroute to my home).
Basically for me it's Lumia 920 on AT&T LTE vs Google awesomeness on AT&T HSPA.
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In my opinion lte shouldn't be a deciding factor. While it can be nice for certain things, your typical daily operations of the phone i.e. facebook, emails, xda and what not, your not really going to notice any difference
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Motorila atrix hd is a solid phone even though it boktloader is locked
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Well the day & half I had my nexus 4 I enjoyed it. It did start to grow on me, but I ended up trading it for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked After about 5 minutes setting up the iphone 5 I'd prefer to keep my iphone 4s with the mophie case. (Sold this morning for $420)

osugsxr said:
Well the day & half I had my nexus 4 I enjoyed it. It did start to grow on me, but I ended up trading it for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked After about 5 minutes setting up the iphone 5 I'd prefer to keep my iphone 4s with the mophie case. (Sold this morning for $420)
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LOL!!!
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osugsxr said:
Well the day & half I had my nexus 4 I enjoyed it. It did start to grow on me, but I ended up trading it for an iphone 5 32gb unlocked After about 5 minutes setting up the iphone 5 I'd prefer to keep my iphone 4s with the mophie case. (Sold this morning for $420)
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Just so I'm clear. You traded a N4 (worth ~400$) for a 32G i5 (~800) and sold the latter for $420? Those are some messed up transactions sir.
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[Q] Life expectancy of smart phones

Back in the day of plain ole mobile phones, Nokia's business model anticipated that a customer would replace his mobile phone every two and half years. How often do people replace thier smart phones?
I have had my note n7000 for about 1.5 years. The Note II is out and was a significant upgrade and the III will be out soon and I anticipate it too will be a significant improvement. I consider myself a regular user of the phone and that includes the abuse that goes with constant handling of the device.
I am not sure how much longer my note will survive -- nobody does -- but I am curious about people's opinion about the lifetime of Note.
Got any ideas, please share.

i would say around 3 years with medium care though if you are higly csreful and don't use it too much 4years are possible 2 though it might need battery replacement because it doesn't do good after a long while like that

I've had mine since release so 2 years, without cover or screen protector, use it in the bath, flash custom roms, drop it loads and it's fine. Only thing I've replaced is the battery about 6 months ago. If you were to keep it on gb as was intended there's no reason it wouldn't last for 5 years or so I reckon, but it doesn't really have the ram or processor for jb.
I've still got an HTC universal from 2005 I think and it still works fine, use it for emergencies, great phone, first true smartphone IMHO.
Ps... Questions should be in q&a.
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SpyderTracks said:
I've had mine since release so 2 years, without cover or screen protector, use it in the bath, flash custom roms, drop it loads and it's fine. Only thing I've replaced is the battery about 6 months ago. If you were to keep it on gb as was intended there's no reason it wouldn't last for 5 years or so I reckon, but it doesn't really have the ram or processor for jb.
I've still got an HTC universal from 2005 I think and it still works fine, use it for emergencies, great phone, first true smartphone IMHO.
Ps... Questions should be in q&a.
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Just this morning I dropped it on the bathroom floor and it ferll out of my hand and hit the hardwood floor when I fell asleep last. I often carry in my pocket with my keys and change. It does have one small scrach of the screen but the thing is nearly inscrutable. The thing that concerns me are the buttons, They get an enormous amount of use. I'll hold off on the batteries until I decide on the III
Thanks for your response.

For a good keeper its 3 years even more. But before 3 years ppl feel their devices are obsolete and they change them prior to its max life.
I have my note with me for about one year and 8 months now. But whike note3 is near to its release i am planning ro upgrade.
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Yeah, I have been using my Note for nearly 2 years now. Flashed roms, no screen protector, no cover too.
To date... *touchwood... its been doing good. Wasnt even tempted to change when Note 2 was out, but am looking at Note 3 to see if I want to change it.
My current Note is really been my fav phone till now, and i believe it will continue to work well for another 1-2 years (ok, the worst thing i can think of is a replacement of battery).

sofes said:
Yeah, I have been using my Note for nearly 2 years now. Flashed roms, no screen protector, no cover too.
To date... *touchwood... its been doing good. Wasnt even tempted to change when Note 2 was out, but am looking at Note 3 to see if I want to change it.
My current Note is really been my fav phone till now, and i believe it will continue to work well for another 1-2 years (ok, the worst thing i can think of is a replacement of battery).
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2 years *at most*
and I'm not a destroyer of devices.. i look after mine pretty well.

Am I too poor to be excited about the Note 4?

OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?

I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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I pulled the triger and after 2 years I switched from Note 2. You right, it is not a big jump like before ( originally switched from HTC G2 to Note 2 ) but there is not coming back to 720p screen for me. This one is a beast.
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I had the note 2 for a full year right when it came out. I sold it after a year to get the g2. After a year with the g2, I'm so glad to be back to the note family, specifically the note 4. This phone is a beast, I can easily see myself keeping this one for a full 2 years!! It's definitely an upgrade over the note 2 by leaps and bound.

keithfrombm said:
i have mucho respect for you! I wish i could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or i fried rooting it). I actually liked my lg g2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, i'm not impressed with my note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that i really do like about it: Samoled. The samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My g2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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i am sorry to say this but you are lying! Troll alert!

I bought the note 2 when it came out and loved it but was getting some usb charge board issues about a month before the note 4 came out, i decided to pre order the note 4 and got it on release day and it's a superb phone the best I've ever owned and a good upgrade from the note 2 I think personally.
The screen alone is amazing.

@Rudy:
What specifically is he lying about?
Some people have reported battery issues, and it is a known fact that TouchWiz is somewhat laggy compared to other launchers/themes. Although it has been getting a lot better in recent versions and IME, I have almost no lag on my phone. Also if you check around quite a few people have been having an issue with their camera and focus issues.
His personal experiences with various phones are his own. Unless you were there to witness his usage of the phones.
Calling someone a troll and a liar without backing it up with verifiable facts from credible industry sources is in very poor form and very un-cool.
So either provide some backup with verifiable links to industry sources to prove him/her wrong, or quietly go on with your life and leave others be.

i upgrade on a 5 yr cycle. went to the note 4 910u from a nokia n8.
camera is slightly better (16mpx ois vs 12mpx), software is much better compared to symbian, storage is more (160GB vs 40GB), wireless charging and bluetooth and screen are better, lag is gone once i enabled dev mode with animations off.
i would not upgrade on less than a 4yr or 5yr cycle. thats the best ROI. if you have a note 2 stay with it until 2017/18.

Lol I cant stay on one phone more than 5 months
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keithfrombm said:
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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Well it isn't the same for everyone. For me battery is awesome on this phone 6h non stop heavy usage, over 2 days on moderate - this is double comparing to my previous phone which was Nexus 5. Touchwiz is s#*@= comparing to Google launcher tough, went straight to nova. Basically my opinion is: brilliant piece of hardware and very, very bad software. I hope someday we will get pure android rom.

jeanclaudevandamme said:
OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.

A|ex said:
The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.

torquadon said:
I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)

actually from looking at some rumours about upcoming phones, I'd be interested in the next-gen Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the so rumoured Z4 ultra, with 6.4" screen and 1440p and stylus support. but that's just vapourware atm, CES will tell.
funnily enough, i just want a bigger screen in a new phone, like that is literally the top priority. the current z ultra is a year old so its processors/res etc rules it out. though it's not too expensive to buy outright now on ebay.

I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?

EP2008 said:
I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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Lollipop on your note 2? Can you provide a link?

A|ex said:
Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
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I didn't check it for long time and didn't know that Sony resigned from wireless charging cover. My bad.
I'm not sure you understood his post. He didn't say that there is no difference, neither I did. All I am saying is, I believe his approach is more sensible. According to you 1gb ram and wireless charger is worth 600GBP, and for me it is not. Amount of people who will need that extra ram is relatively small, I updated from nexus 5 only because I could, not because it was by any means necessary. Both phones are more then capable of running any app from Google play smoothly, many of them would work better on nexus for that simple reason that Samsung apps use huge amount of ram/cpu and unless u root there is no way to disable them.

I was on the Note 3 and didn't had any plans to get the Note 4 as I thought it wasn't worth upgrading to.
But I haven't regret it a second! The quality of the phone is amazing! Better screen and better battery life. Love it!
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I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.

Bruce lee roy said:
I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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This plus imagine Note 4 + Gear VR + Gear S! Although Gear VR will not allow you to call or text when the user is wearing it, with Gear S, you could do that by talking to S-Voice! I have not tried this out personally - because I am poor, but it should work... right? :S That and advanced s-pen :3
But for the whole upgrading thing: If I were to upgrade my phone today - or within the year, I would go with the Note 4. If I were patient enough to wait a few more months, well, then clearly I wouldn't get the note 4 S: The way I see it though, technology has been upgrading crazy fast so it's no big deal if you're out of the loop lol
edit: I am biased though since I already own the note 4 + VR

[discussion] should i switch to a new phone

I got the note 5 since it first came out it is almost 2 years now
I am so amazed with the new OP5 specially the performance
what do you think should I upgrade to it or should I wait one more year till the s9 or the htc 12 ?

I was thinking the same but my note still out performs most.
I just replaced the battery and soon screen and charge port... Will be a new phone.
They made this model note a classic in my opinion
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I wont be much help..well I just bought the Note 5... awesome price....new and was made Feb 2017. Unless you NEED SD slot..... you take your phone in TONS of rain or love to swim with it lol. Price was not a problem.. but still... I watched ALL the reviews... videos. And WOW it keeps up with the S8. Now.. games wise.. S8 gets what 170k and the Note gets 90k. I never play games on it.. so. And LOVE the have to have the PEN. Not a curve screen fan.

AlMaghraby said:
I got the note 5 since it first came out it is almost 2 years now
I am so amazed with the new OP5 specially the performance
what do you think should I upgrade to it or should I wait one more year till the s9 or the htc 12 ?
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I hate seeing awesome devices get old and go by the wayside. When the Note 5 & S6 Edge Plus were released they were Flagship worthy devices with great hardware. They still perform quite well to this day. The hardware has begun getting a little long in the tooth and the biggest problem for me is the Dev support. There are only a few devs left who are actively developing for these devices and unfortunately, in my opinion, they will all move on to newer devices. I am still learning and crafting my development skills and I am nowhere near ready to release a ROM or Kernel.
If you are using the Note 5 for a daily driver and are not heavy into Root/Custom Roms/Custom Kernels etc. then I'd say the Note 5 is still a quality choice. With that being said, if you want active dev support for your flashaholic needs you may want to move on to the One+5. It's an excellent device. I have first hand knowledge as my wife carries a One+5 as her daily driver.
Also, the HTC U11 looks like a solid choice if you don't want to wait and see what the HTC U12 looks like. The S9 is still a little far out as well. I am an Edge Plus user now and I enjoy this device. I needed a quick replacement for my broken Nexus 6P that suffered a tragic fall from 9 feet in the air. I was able to score my Edge+ new in the box for $100 from a local dealer.
Good luck with your choice. Let us know which one you pick.
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I just love this phone except the battery timings.

5 years old this month and still kicking.

I purchased my 10.5 new five years ago this month. But it's starting to show it's age. When it started slowing down about two years ago I installed a new battery and it was like new again. It's starting again, but I don't think I'm going to bother getting a new battery because there is another issue. I use it everyday, and about once or twice a week it just completely shuts down while using. No combination of buttons will get it to boot. The only solution is to connect it to the charger. Once I do that it will boot up and work fine again. I'm using stock ROM now for the past year but I used Lineage for a couple of years in the past. I may try it again to see if that will make a difference. In the mean time, I purchased the latest iPad mini. I'm not a fan of ios but I purchased it specifically to use with my expensive DJI drone. I'm finding myself using it for other purposes now but I much prefer Android. So today I'm expecting delivery of a 2019 Gallaxy Tab A 10.1. I don't want to pay a lot on another tablet again if I can find a decent fairly cheap device that does what I use it for. The one issue I had with my Tab S is the stupid 16gb of RAM on a $600 tablet. The Tab A has 64gb.

I have Oreo on mine with LineageOS as my daily driver. I highly recommend it, you'll be glad you did. I feel like it was given a new lease on life. I'm considering an S5e for my next but I can confidently say the Galaxy S Tab is definitely still rocking out after 5 years, I was just discussing this very thing with a friend.

psykojezus said:
I have Oreo on mine with LineageOS as my daily driver. I highly recommend it, you'll be glad you did. I feel like it was given a new lease on life. I'm considering an S5e for my next but I can confidently say the Galaxy S Tab is definitely still rocking out after 5 years, I was just discussing this very thing with a friend.
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Does Netflix work on the version you're running? If so, do you have a link to it? That's the one app my fiancee NEEDS.

anyone looking for a 5 year old one that is still rocking head to Swappa or Ebay - my rare T705M is for sale (this is the Latin American version that gets the U.S LTE bands - cellular voice calling like the 705 but better due to the band coverage)
swappa listing LRVC37794 or search SM-T705M on EBay

munnarg said:
Does Netflix work on the version you're running? If so, do you have a link to it? That's the one app my fiancee NEEDS.
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Search for Netflix apk. Several apk repositories keep track of it. Get the armv7 version.
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Eddie Hicks said:
I purchased my 10.5 new five years ago this month.
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You're not using your 10.5 a lot, aren't you? I have already destroyed two, and now I am "working on" a lightly used 8.4.

psykojezus said:
I have Oreo on mine with LineageOS as my daily driver. I highly recommend it, you'll be glad you did. I feel like it was given a new lease on life. I'm considering an S5e for my next but I can confidently say the Galaxy S Tab is definitely still rocking out after 5 years, I was just discussing this very thing with a friend.
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I had Lineage for quite awhile. I went back stock for about a year, but I just flashed Lineage again a few days ago. Don't remember why I went back to stock because without all of the Samsung bloat it runs smoother.

Akopps said:
Search for Netflix apk. Several apk repositories keep track of it. Get the armv7 version.
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You're not using your 10.5 a lot, aren't you? I have already destroyed two, and now I am "working on" a lightly used 8.4.
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I use it every morning. Before I get out of the bed, I use it to read the news and social media. I also play a couple of games. I just flashed Lineage a few days ago and it's running much smoother again. I purchased a Tab A 10.1 a couple of weeks ago but I returned it, because even though it's much newer, it was too much of a downgrade, especially the screen. The only thing better was that it had 64gb of storage compared to the Tab S 16gb.

I'm using my since February 2015, if I remember correctly ... . It's still running like a Swiss clockwork
I'm on DarkExistence lineage because his AICP seems discontinued since a while already. My favorite was SLIM at the beginning.
The next tab could be S5 without “e“, if it gets so light and thin like S5e but with pen and hw power like like S4 ... .
m.

My T800 10.5" is 5 years old this November, I have used it virtually every day and i am still on my first battery, I only watch video`s and read ebooks so nothing that`s hard on the tablet like some modern games can get the tablet very hot and drain the battery quick is not good if you want it to last a long time.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
My T800 10.5" is 5 years old this November, I have used it virtually every day and i am still on my first battery, I only watch video`s and read ebooks so nothing that`s hard on the tablet like some modern games can get the tablet very hot and drain the battery quick is not good if you want it to last a long time.
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Hello, with that use of yours, how much longer do you think you can have left, another 5 years? I also use it for multimedia and nothing else. My tab S 8.4 is 4 and a half years old and the battery is 1 year old because I changed it to a new and official first quality one. I am very happy with the quality of your screen and with its battery, it easily reaches 10 hours of screen in a week of use watching Netflix basically

Princeland said:
Hello, with that use of yours, how much longer do you think you can have left, another 5 years? I also use it for multimedia and nothing else. My tab S 8.4 is 4 and a half years old and the battery is 1 year old because I changed it to a new and official first quality one. I am very happy with the quality of your screen and with its battery, it easily reaches 10 hours of screen in a week of use watching Netflix basically
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I cannot really say how much battery life it has lost but it must have lost something, I only use it for an hour or so a day before i go to sleep i try and protect the battery with a special charging regime to keep my battery alive as long as possible.
I think my battery will just fail suddenly in the next couple of years, But the battery`s are easily enough to replace after watching a few youtube video`s
John.