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Am I too poor to be excited about the Note 4?

OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?

I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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I pulled the triger and after 2 years I switched from Note 2. You right, it is not a big jump like before ( originally switched from HTC G2 to Note 2 ) but there is not coming back to 720p screen for me. This one is a beast.
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I had the note 2 for a full year right when it came out. I sold it after a year to get the g2. After a year with the g2, I'm so glad to be back to the note family, specifically the note 4. This phone is a beast, I can easily see myself keeping this one for a full 2 years!! It's definitely an upgrade over the note 2 by leaps and bound.

keithfrombm said:
i have mucho respect for you! I wish i could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or i fried rooting it). I actually liked my lg g2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, i'm not impressed with my note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that i really do like about it: Samoled. The samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My g2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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i am sorry to say this but you are lying! Troll alert!

I bought the note 2 when it came out and loved it but was getting some usb charge board issues about a month before the note 4 came out, i decided to pre order the note 4 and got it on release day and it's a superb phone the best I've ever owned and a good upgrade from the note 2 I think personally.
The screen alone is amazing.

@Rudy:
What specifically is he lying about?
Some people have reported battery issues, and it is a known fact that TouchWiz is somewhat laggy compared to other launchers/themes. Although it has been getting a lot better in recent versions and IME, I have almost no lag on my phone. Also if you check around quite a few people have been having an issue with their camera and focus issues.
His personal experiences with various phones are his own. Unless you were there to witness his usage of the phones.
Calling someone a troll and a liar without backing it up with verifiable facts from credible industry sources is in very poor form and very un-cool.
So either provide some backup with verifiable links to industry sources to prove him/her wrong, or quietly go on with your life and leave others be.

i upgrade on a 5 yr cycle. went to the note 4 910u from a nokia n8.
camera is slightly better (16mpx ois vs 12mpx), software is much better compared to symbian, storage is more (160GB vs 40GB), wireless charging and bluetooth and screen are better, lag is gone once i enabled dev mode with animations off.
i would not upgrade on less than a 4yr or 5yr cycle. thats the best ROI. if you have a note 2 stay with it until 2017/18.

Lol I cant stay on one phone more than 5 months
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keithfrombm said:
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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Well it isn't the same for everyone. For me battery is awesome on this phone 6h non stop heavy usage, over 2 days on moderate - this is double comparing to my previous phone which was Nexus 5. Touchwiz is s#*@= comparing to Google launcher tough, went straight to nova. Basically my opinion is: brilliant piece of hardware and very, very bad software. I hope someday we will get pure android rom.

jeanclaudevandamme said:
OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.

A|ex said:
The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.

torquadon said:
I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)

actually from looking at some rumours about upcoming phones, I'd be interested in the next-gen Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the so rumoured Z4 ultra, with 6.4" screen and 1440p and stylus support. but that's just vapourware atm, CES will tell.
funnily enough, i just want a bigger screen in a new phone, like that is literally the top priority. the current z ultra is a year old so its processors/res etc rules it out. though it's not too expensive to buy outright now on ebay.

I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?

EP2008 said:
I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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Lollipop on your note 2? Can you provide a link?

A|ex said:
Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
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I didn't check it for long time and didn't know that Sony resigned from wireless charging cover. My bad.
I'm not sure you understood his post. He didn't say that there is no difference, neither I did. All I am saying is, I believe his approach is more sensible. According to you 1gb ram and wireless charger is worth 600GBP, and for me it is not. Amount of people who will need that extra ram is relatively small, I updated from nexus 5 only because I could, not because it was by any means necessary. Both phones are more then capable of running any app from Google play smoothly, many of them would work better on nexus for that simple reason that Samsung apps use huge amount of ram/cpu and unless u root there is no way to disable them.

I was on the Note 3 and didn't had any plans to get the Note 4 as I thought it wasn't worth upgrading to.
But I haven't regret it a second! The quality of the phone is amazing! Better screen and better battery life. Love it!
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I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.

Bruce lee roy said:
I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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This plus imagine Note 4 + Gear VR + Gear S! Although Gear VR will not allow you to call or text when the user is wearing it, with Gear S, you could do that by talking to S-Voice! I have not tried this out personally - because I am poor, but it should work... right? :S That and advanced s-pen :3
But for the whole upgrading thing: If I were to upgrade my phone today - or within the year, I would go with the Note 4. If I were patient enough to wait a few more months, well, then clearly I wouldn't get the note 4 S: The way I see it though, technology has been upgrading crazy fast so it's no big deal if you're out of the loop lol
edit: I am biased though since I already own the note 4 + VR

Thinking of ditching my Nvidia Shield Tablet and jumping on a Tab S

Title say's it all really.
I bought my Shield thinking game streaming from my PC would be fun, but I hardly ever use it. I expected the Shield to be a killer tablet and although it has plenty of power I'm sick of the bugs, glitches and general lag. The battery is not that great and I find the aspect ratio and size a little bit annoying. To be honest it's been a bit disappointment.
I just recently upgraded my phone from Galaxy S2 (I know old) to a Galaxy A5 and I have to say I'm pretty impressed with with Samsungs updates, my phone feels way smoother and nicer to use than my shield, so much so that I'm thinking of selling it and getting a Tab S, most probably 10.5. I've been reading and watching plenty of reviews and I'm liking it more and more.
What do you guys think? Should I jump ship? I think I'm basically looking for some reassurance that it's a good thing to do! lol

burt_ie said:
Title say's it all really.
I bought my Shield thinking game streaming from my PC would be fun, but I hardly ever use it. I expected the Shield to be a killer tablet and although it has plenty of power I'm sick of the bugs, glitches and general lag. The battery is not that great and I find the aspect ratio and size a little bit annoying. To be honest it's been a bit disappointment.
I just recently upgraded my phone from Galaxy S2 (I know old) to a Galaxy A5 and I have to say I'm pretty impressed with with Samsungs updates, my phone feels way smoother and nicer to use than my shield, so much so that I'm thinking of selling it and getting a Tab S, most probably 10.5. I've been reading and watching plenty of reviews and I'm liking it more and more.
What do you guys think? Should I jump ship? I think I'm basically looking for some reassurance that it's a good thing to do! lol
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i saw the nvidia shield and i really didnt care for it at all.. it was quite big for what it does and didnt seem special at all.. you can do the same and more with a tab s and the screen is a lot larger and its a ton lighter.. i do have the t807v which isnt rootable but i use it as a media/gaming tablet and it lasts for a long time on a full charge. it is snappy even though the t807v doesnt have root..
with that being said, id say it depends on which version you get since a rootable tablet clearly would make it even easier for you to decide.
i use ps4 remote play on the tablet and it works great (even without pairing a ps4 controller)
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I'm used to having tablets with a 10" screen, so the Shield was a bit of downgrade in that area. Also after looking at the lovely screen on my Sammy A5 the Shield looks pale and a little washed out in comparison.
I'm annoyed with the Shield as it seems like an effort to have to get things working, and the lag is really bad at times. On my Galaxy A5 everything just works as it should and I don't really need to tinker that much. I'm also quite enjoying touchwiz, it's improved a lot since the days of my Galaxy S2, and TBH I'm quite sick of vanilla android, I always root and install custom firmware on my devices, and it's the reason why I've managed to keep my S2 going for so long, but touchwiz actually feel's like a breath of fresh air at the moment. But I'll probably end up installing custom ROMs on my phone/tab in a year or so anyway (once I tire of touchwiz).
I'd definitely want be rooting my Tab S if I were to get one, so I'll have to avoid the t807v. How many different version/models are there? I'm in the UK so will that make a difference to any region specific versions?
Also how long does the Tab S take to charge? The Shield takes between 2-4 hours to get a full charge, but my new phone the Galaxy A5 went from 3% to 80% in about half hour so I'm pretty impressed.

Go for it ! And the Tab S 10.5 has a really good battery life

I actually went for the 8.4, compared side by side with the 10.5 and I found the 8.4 much lighter and comfortable to use.
The screen and battery size difference weren't a deal breaker for me. All other specs are the same.
Make sure your new Tab arrives in a sealed box, and with a charged battery.
If your battery is next to none or empty, it may be unable to use it's full capabilities.

burt_ie said:
I'm used to having tablets with a 10" screen, so the Shield was a bit of downgrade in that area. Also after looking at the lovely screen on my Sammy A5 the Shield looks pale and a little washed out in comparison.
I'm annoyed with the Shield as it seems like an effort to have to get things working, and the lag is really bad at times. On my Galaxy A5 everything just works as it should and I don't really need to tinker that much. I'm also quite enjoying touchwiz, it's improved a lot since the days of my Galaxy S2, and TBH I'm quite sick of vanilla android, I always root and install custom firmware on my devices, and it's the reason why I've managed to keep my S2 going for so long, but touchwiz actually feel's like a breath of fresh air at the moment. But I'll probably end up installing custom ROMs on my phone/tab in a year or so anyway (once I tire of touchwiz).
I'd definitely want be rooting my Tab S if I were to get one, so I'll have to avoid the t807v. How many different version/models are there? I'm in the UK so will that make a difference to any region specific versions?
Also how long does the Tab S take to charge? The Shield takes between 2-4 hours to get a full charge, but my new phone the Galaxy A5 went from 3% to 80% in about half hour so I'm pretty impressed.
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There's an T805 which is an international one but has little development (CM based roms and such) and if you play games and such, the tab s sends to get warm near the camera. There is an SM-T800 (10.5 wifi), SM-T700 (8.4 wifi) and so on. Typically it takes 2-4 hours to charge fully, but I don't keep track so around that. There's no quick charge for us ?
You could wait a bit as new tablets are coming out this summer. So you might see prices go down ?

The one I was looking to get is the T800, is that one and to root?

burt_ie said:
The one I was looking to get is the T800, is that one and to root?
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The T800 is the one you want. Lets you access to all the goodies
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zombolt said:
The T800 is the one you want. Lets you access to all the goodies
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Awesome! Just what I wanted to hear!
Well I've initiated the return of my Shield to Amazon...just printed out the return label.

burt_ie said:
Awesome! Just what I wanted to hear!
Well I've initiated the return of my Shield to Amazon...just printed out the return label.
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Yeah. The T800 (I own that also ) has cm12, Resurrection remix, and a few more. It's awesome

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Yeah. The T800 (I own that also ) has cm12, Resurrection remix, and a few more. It's awesome
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Even better news! xD
I'll have to get reading in the forums to find out how to root this baby...now I cant decide if I should order one on line and save myself some money or just buy one from the shop across the road! lol

Well i have one now... went and bought it from the local store!
I have 45 days to see if I like it, already rooted and so far so good

For what its worth, I had the Shield for a few months, just returned it and got an 8.4. The Shield was good for gaming but suffered from lag after lollipop hit. Wifi was bad as well. I was willing to live with it until a crack appeared in the volume button area. I then gave up and got the 8.4.
I'm learning to live with Touchwiz - its not terrible. The rest of the tablet runs smoothly.

I like the shield, but I hardly ever use if for gaming, I bought the control pad and game streaming wasn't as fantastic as I thought it would be.

burt_ie said:
I just recently upgraded my phone from Galaxy S2 (I know old) to a Galaxy A5 and I have to say I'm pretty impressed with with Samsungs updates
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The A5 has mediocre specs and screen. If you are impressed with the A5 you will be blown away by the Tab S.

Eddie Hicks said:
The A5 has mediocre specs and screen. If you are impressed with the A5 you will be blown away by the Tab S.
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I know the A5 is only mid range, but I'm really happy with it. It had the right specs and performance that I was looking for and within my price budget.
I have the Tab S now (typing this from it) and so far so good, it's taking me a little while to get used to going back to a bigger screen but it is beautiful to look at (especially compared to the Shield Tablet).
I'm rooted and looking for a good ROM and possibly lollipop.

burt_ie said:
I know the A5 is only mid range, but I'm really happy with it. It had the right specs and performance that I was looking for and within my price budget.
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I guess that's all that matters. I probably would have picked up a used S4 or something on Swappa. Anyway you will love your Tab S, 10.5. I purchased mine the first day they were available. I am rooted but I have not installed a custom ROM. This is my first Android device I have not installed a ROM. So far, especially with Lollipop I am happy with it the way it is. That may change down the road if someone makes a ROM that has a significant improvement on performance.

I think I'm on my 6th, maybe even 7th android device now! I'm just looking at the stock lollipop Roms, deciding whether to try one out or wait for the official UK one from Sammy.

I had the Shield Tablet LTE. It did everything well but the battery couldn't last me over 6 hours on average. I was envious of my friends having the Tab S with their beautiful Super AMOLED screens. Finally, I decided to trade it in for a Tab S 8.4. I love the Tab S and so far it's done everything that the Shield could do. It's performance on gaming isn't up to par with the Shield but otherwise everything else is equal if not better than the Shield tablet. I'm glad the battery of the Tab S 8.4 could last me close to 9 hour on average.

Well so far I'm loving 10.5 Tab S, I'm rooted and running Lollipop 5.0.2. The screen is amazing and I much prefer the size over the 8 inch Shield, the colours are really vibrant and it's light and really thin, it's a joy to use.
Like you said, it's not quite as good for gaming as a shield but to be honest I don't care, I don't think hard core gaming on a small device is really that impressive so I'll stick to my PC for that.
My Shield is all packed up and ready to be sent back to Amazon today, to be honest I'm happy to see it go and I don't regret my decision at all!

Just bought s5 mini (g800f)

I broke my s4 minis digitizer and decided to go with new phone, so i bought used s5 mini.
I didn't check if s5 mini had cyanogenmod available, but thank god i found hennymcc made unofficial version I had some troubles with Gapps
My biggest problem was netflix not working, but finally after hours of googling i found fix for it and now i can stream netflix to my chromecast 2.
So my question is what kind of experiences you've had with your s5 mini and are you liking your phone?

I've had this phone for slightly over a year and while it's been allright, I am pissed off at a few things:
Promised Lollipop update has been MIA for quite a few months and possibly not coming at all.
It's pretty under-powered with a relatively weak processor and not enough RAM. It is comparable to the much much older Galaxy S3.
Despite that, it was pretty expensive for a mid-range phone (something that might have changed as it is a last year model).

Yep I like the screen on this phone, but after doing more research i maybe should've gone with moto G 2015.
I paid 200e for this phone, I could have got this cheaper but i was in a hurry. I just hope that this device will get CM support for 1-2 more years.
Just got to hope that hennymcc, CTXz, Unjustified Dev won't get bored of this device

I get mine as a gift 3 months ago and I'm really dissapointed with Samsung in general; the gave us poor support and ugly and heavy interface. I'm selling it in order to buy a Moto G (2015) or a second hand Nexus 5. As you say, at least the screen is really good
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Yeah i'm kind of getting pretty fond of this phone, maybe i would like this less with stock rom.

It was pretty damn good when I was about to buy it, but after buying this device I got some problems:
•BATTERY LIFE. It can die on 2-4days in 100% charge on standby mode.
•POWER. It's pretty damn bad. I thought that using S5 with S3 processor and graphics card was a nice idea... IT TAKES 2-5 MINUTES TO LOAD NORMALLY AND WORK NO LAG AFTER TURNING IT ON.
•PRICE. Well, I bought it on 50% discount and it wasn't a big hit to me but if I would bought this phone on full price... For price I got (150€) specs and everything fits into it. But a retail(when launched) price is too big.
AND I WANT AND I WAIT FOR LOLLIPOP!!! (and marshmallow but I never get it, that's why I am looking at NextBit Robin)

The sad day has come.

Well, I knew this day would come. After almost four years with our trusty Nexus 5 phones, the hardware has begun to get flaky. My wife's phone's charging port is a little unreliable now, and the dreaded power switch problem is starting to appear; and my phone's headphone jack has become occasionally intermittent. I had to rotate the spare into service. I could fix these things, probably, swapping parts from the spare or another old parts phone, but when failures start to happen they're not going to stop happening. They've had long service and are just wearing out.
Plus which, although this phone has had one of the most vibrant and active developer communities I've ever seen, interest in it is starting to fall off. A lot of good ROMs have been abandoned or handed off to other maintainers as the original devs move on to sexier, more modern hardware. It was good that we got so much Nougat, but I don't think we'll ever see as much Oreo.
So this week I bit the bullet and bought a pair of unlocked LG G6 US997 phones. I had them bootloader-unlocked and rooted within an hour of coming out of their boxes. Very nice phone with a dedicated developer community just beginning to emerge. I was really impressed with LG's durability on the N5, and I expect the G6 to be equally reliable over time. There are a lot of nice new features and a lot of technological improvements... but I have to say I think I will always be a little nostalgic for the Nexus 5. And who knows, maybe my wife will wind up using hers again. I know she'll break the G6 eventually.
To the Nexus 5 community: you guys have been and are an amazing bunch. This community epitomizes what open source can be on its best day. I hope I see even half of this kind of community develop for the G6.
Thanks, and best wishes to all.

You will actually find out that the g6 becomes laggier than the good old nexus 5 ! And the wide angle boner will wear off very quickly

dwasifar said:
Well, I knew this day would come. After almost four years with our trusty Nexus 5 phones, the hardware has begun to get flaky. My wife's phone's charging port is a little unreliable now, and the dreaded power switch problem is starting to appear; and my phone's headphone jack has become occasionally intermittent. I had to rotate the spare into service. I could fix these things, probably, swapping parts from the spare or another old parts phone, but when failures start to happen they're not going to stop happening. They've had long service and are just wearing out.
Plus which, although this phone has had one of the most vibrant and active developer communities I've ever seen, interest in it is starting to fall off. A lot of good ROMs have been abandoned or handed off to other maintainers as the original devs move on to sexier, more modern hardware. It was good that we got so much Nougat, but I don't think we'll ever see as much Oreo.
So this week I bit the bullet and bought a pair of unlocked LG G6 US997 phones. I had them bootloader-unlocked and rooted within an hour of coming out of their boxes. Very nice phone with a dedicated developer community just beginning to emerge. I was really impressed with LG's durability on the N5, and I expect the G6 to be equally reliable over time. There are a lot of nice new features and a lot of technological improvements... but I have to say I think I will always be a little nostalgic for the Nexus 5. And who knows, maybe my wife will wind up using hers again. I know she'll break the G6 eventually.
To the Nexus 5 community: you guys have been and are an amazing bunch. This community epitomizes what open source can be on its best day. I hope I see even half of this kind of community develop for the G6.
Thanks, and best wishes to all.
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Good luck with your LG G6. I just upgraded to a Samsung Galaxy S8 a few months ago and absolutely love it. I upgraded a few months ago for a lot of the same reasons that you state here. The S8 has also has a very good developer community there too.
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You will actually find out that the g6 becomes laggier than the good old nexus 5 ! And the wide angle boner will wear off very quickly
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I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. I had used my S8 for a few months and went back to my Nexus 5 because I was missing being able to tinker around with my phone. Well it became abundantly clear to me that I realized why I had upgraded to the S8 in the first place. The Nexus 5 had become much slower and didn't run as smoothly as my S8. Needless to say, that little experiment lasted only two days. Went back to my S8 and not looking back now.
I did a factory reset on the phone and sold it on e-bay so that someone else can have the Nexus 5 experience.
Cindy

I love my Nexus 5. It runs anroid 7.1.2 very smooth and I think will work perfect with Android Oreo .

These are parts that often fail over time (somewhat "mechanical", so not really a surprise here). You could replace these parts, pretty easily and with little extra cost. You also seem to have the knowledge to do so, so it shouldn't stop you.
As far as I know, I couldn't really live with the fact that I just bought a new device knowing the previous one worked almost perfectly, I find it really irresponsible from an environmental perspective, especially now, in 2017.
But I understand the desire for new, faster, bigger battery (which is almost a flaw on N5), so enjoy your new device anyway.

dadix4ef said:
I love my Nexus 5. It runs anroid 7.1.2 very smooth and I think will work perfect with Android Oreo .
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So do I and for that reason, yesterday I spent 90 Euros on a Nexus 5 with 32GB for my wife, so she finally had to retire her good old Huawei G510, which she still loves so much. I'm quite sure the Nexus 5 will be more than enough for our needs for at least another two or three years, and 2020 will be a good year for buying a used Galaxy S8 for another 130 Euros.

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These are parts that often fail over time (somewhat "mechanical", so not really a surprise here). You could replace these parts, pretty easily and with little extra cost. You also seem to have the knowledge to do so, so it shouldn't stop you.
As far as I know, I couldn't really live with the fact that I just bought a new device knowing the previous one worked almost perfectly, I find it really irresponsible from an environmental perspective, especially now, in 2017.
But I understand the desire for new, faster, bigger battery (which is almost a flaw on N5), so enjoy your new device anyway.
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you are right. I already replaced my N5's LCD Flex, LCD Panel and the Battery. And now it's still rocking good as my back up phone.. It has better GPS reception than my LG G5.
I just couldn't let go of this device. Battery and Camera is really the downside of this device. :laugh:

Big thanks to all the Devs in here over the last few years, your work is completely appreciated and after nearly 4 years I've finally upgraded to a Pixel 2, thanks for all your fantastic ROMs....
See you on the other side...

Sad To See Ya Go
It's sad to see ya go man. But on the contrary I ain't having ANY of these problems. I got my Nexus 5 fairly about two months back off a friend for really cheap ($20 CAD and a carton of $10 cigarettes I found on the ground outside the fish plant lol) and he barely used it. He had an older HTC for the longest time but got the Nexus, used it for about a month, then got a iPhone. I'm not having an problems with speed (but my charging port is kinda getting loose which sucks but not the end of the world) on the stock OS even. But the battery life sucked so I flashed LineageOS 14.1 Nightly Franco Kernel r113 3.4.0, and Magisk root so I could download No Frills CPU controller. So far my battery life went from 5 hours on full if you're lucky to 12 hours (and I haven't even used No Frills CPU Controller to underclock yet). Best of luck with your G6!

I still remember buying it when it came out in 2013 and returning it.
Bought it again on eBay sometime later and luckily it still had the Google warranty which I've had to use a couple of times. They even replaced it because of broken LCD.
To cut a long story short with each replacement the 2 year warranty was renewed.I have just received a replacement for the same reason as yours. But lucky for me this one is a brand new sealed in the box one. Normally they are refurbished. So I have warranty until Jan 2020. It was on 4.4.2
I have always used this as a backup, and enjoy coming back to it from devices like LG G3, G4,6P, S7, S8, 3T. The only reason i don't use it as a main device is the battery.
Despite the old processor it is very fast and dependable.

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It's sad to see ya go man. But on the contrary I ain't having ANY of these problems. I got my Nexus 5 fairly about two months back off a friend for really cheap ($20 CAD and a carton of $10 cigarettes I found on the ground outside the fish plant lol) and he barely used it. He had an older HTC for the longest time but got the Nexus, used it for about a month, then got a iPhone. I'm not having an problems with speed (but my charging port is kinda getting loose which sucks but not the end of the world) on the stock OS even. But the battery life sucked so I flashed LineageOS 14.1 Nightly Franco Kernel r113 3.4.0, and Magisk root so I could download No Frills CPU controller. So far my battery life went from 5 hours on full if you're lucky to 12 hours (and I haven't even used No Frills CPU Controller to underclock yet). Best of luck with your G6!
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I too am on my original nexus 5 with 32Gb. Rooted from day one with twrp. Added xposed and marshmallow 6.0.1. Only hardware I needed to replace was the battery and it made a big difference.
I've avoided non stock roms so far but would now love to try LineageOS and Franco kernel. Are there detailed instructions somewhere as to the exact step by step procedure to do so? I've had no experience with Magisk so this is uncharted territory for me.

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I too am on my original nexus 5 with 32Gb. Rooted from day one with twrp. Added xposed and marshmallow 6.0.1. Only hardware I needed to replace was the battery and it made a big difference.
I've avoided non stock roms so far but would now love to try LineageOS and Franco kernel. Are there detailed instructions somewhere as to the exact step by step procedure to do so? I've had no experience with Magisk so this is uncharted territory for me.
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Well I can create a guide for you once I get back on my computer, also you don't have to use Magisk, for kernels I recommend you don't tbh
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bluegrass55 said:
I still remember buying it when it came out in 2013 and returning it.
Bought it again on eBay sometime later and luckily it still had the Google warranty which I've had to use a couple of times. They even replaced it because of broken LCD.
To cut a long story short with each replacement the 2 year warranty was renewed.I have just received a replacement for the same reason as yours. But lucky for me this one is a brand new sealed in the box one. Normally they are refurbished. So I have warranty until Jan 2020. It was on 4.4.2
I have always used this as a backup, and enjoy coming back to it from devices like LG G3, G4,6P, S7, S8, 3T. The only reason i don't use it as a main device is the battery.
Despite the old processor it is very fast and dependable.
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I have mine overclocked currently, it is amazing but the battery is meh (battery is shot anyways)

That would be great. I have very little experience with flashing roms. But I have several nandroid backups and tibu so it should be reasonably safe.
Thank you.

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That would be great. I have very little experience with flashing roms. But I have several nandroid backups and tibu so it should be reasonably safe.
Thank you.
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Anytime bro, will be able to do it up for you after school tomorrow

Good bye Nexus 5 community.
Yesterday i bought Mi A1 and now i am giving my 3 years old N5 to someone else. I hope to see good development community for A1 because N5 has one of the best development community.

4 years old and still kicking

I just read on Android Authority that a Tab S 4 will be released soon. I have the original Tab S 10.5 tablet. It's 4 years old this month. I bought it when it first was available. I'm using it now to write this comment. It's still working great and looks as good as new. The only thing I did was replace the battery about a year ago. No need for me to waste money on the latest and greatest when what I have is still working fine.
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I just read on Android Authority that a Tab S 4 will be released soon. I have the original Tab S 10.5 tablet. It's 4 years old this month. I bought it when it first was available. I'm using it now to write this comment. It's still working great and looks as good as new. The only thing I did was replace the battery about a year ago. No need for me to waste money on the latest and greatest when what I have is still working fine.
Sent from my SM-T800 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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I have the SM-T807A and also still working, however trying to 'kick it up' because for me it's running slow. At least for what I'm using it for [browsing, many tabs open]
Using LL (5.0.2) instead of MM because I'm looking for the best speed I can get.
Rooted a long time ago, just now getting around to debloating it.
In general I'm satisfied but when using some apps there is quite a wait time, mainly calendar tell the truth. Perhaps I'll install another app.. However browsing is my main issue as I like to have as many tabs as possible open when I'm browsing/researching/etc. Again, of course, should install a super-lightweight browser to determine how well this would work.
I may try MM again in the future, either way I'll use this until it turns into dust!
Happy you're still using your tablet, too many just put them in a drawer/closet and forget about them.

I am using my T705 almost every day, and still very pleased. It is exciting to see that a new MM stock ROM with June 2018 security patch is currently rolled out (DBT, AUT, SEE, SIO, BGL). Hopefully, ROMs for the other Tab S devices will follow soon.
Best, maris

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I have the SM-T807A and also still working, however trying to 'kick it up' because for me it's running slow. At least for what I'm using it for [browsing, many tabs open]
Using LL (5.0.2) instead of MM because I'm looking for the best speed I can get.
Rooted a long time ago, just now getting around to debloating it.
In general I'm satisfied but when using some apps there is quite a wait time, mainly calendar tell the truth. Perhaps I'll install another app.. However browsing is my main issue as I like to have as many tabs as possible open when I'm browsing/researching/etc. Again, of course, should install a super-lightweight browser to determine how well this would work.
I may try MM again in the future, either way I'll use this until it turns into dust!
Happy you're still using your tablet, too many just put them in a drawer/closet and forget about them.
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I use my Tab S every morning mostly reading news, browsing the web and social media stuff for about 2 hours. I occasionally play game. I noticed a slow down, but after I replaced the battery last year it perked back up. I have no complaints about it's performance considering it's a 4 year old device. No way will I pay $650 for a new tablet when what I have works fine for what I use it for.
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I got mine for 400USD in late 2014, and very sadly, I haven't seen a better tablet for the same price since then. In fact, it seems like the the Android tablet market has gone to toilet since then. The S2 was a disappointment for _many_ reasons, no way a Tab S user could see it as an upgrade. The S3 is nice, but Samsung folks want to charge laptop prices for it. Even today, the one and a half year old Tab S3 price has not dropped down significantly below 500USD, even though S4 was already announced. The budget-friendly or "midrange" Android tablets have very poor internal specs and serious limitations but you often see them priced almost like an iPad.

Surprised to be prompted to install a software update the other day for T700 BTU, last one was the initial MM update. Build date is 13/06/2018 but Android security patch level is 1 August 2017. WTF Samsung?

My T800 is still going strong too. I bought it when it was first released also. I use mine almost everyday to browse the www. I still have not replaced the battery in it because it still works alright. I also will not be buying the new S4 either. At 650$ Samsung is crazy! Just my 2 cents!
P.S. Anyone have a line on a replacement battery when the time comes? I have searched high and low and all I can find is China crap batteries on fleabay!

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My T800 is still going strong too. I bought it when it was first released also. I use mine almost everyday to browse the www. I still have not replaced the battery in it because it still works alright. I also will not be buying the new S4 either. At 650$ Samsung is crazy! Just my 2 cents!
P.S. Anyone have a line on a replacement battery when the time comes? I have searched high and low and all I can find is China crap batteries on fleabay!
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newpower99.com has been selling quality replacement battery`s for years
https://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_...attery_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-sm-t800.htm
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
newpower99.com has been selling quality replacement battery`s for years
https://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_...attery_Kit_p/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-sm-t800.htm
John.
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Thanks John for the link!:good::good: I will give one of these a try!

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Surprised to be prompted to install a software update the other day for T700 BTU, last one was the initial MM update. Build date is 13/06/2018 but Android security patch level is 1 August 2017. WTF Samsung?
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To build a firmware this recently but not include the fix for KRACK vulnerability in wi-fi (fixed late in 2017) is a crime.

Just picked up a SM-T835 (LTE) Model and im kind of regretting it. as my TAB S 8.4 SM-T705 LTE Model is my daily driver.. it's still running like a champ over 3500 chargers dischargers i was planning to make it my daily driver the TAB S4 but its slightly to big yeah i know...... lol..

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Just picked up a SM-T835 (LTE) Model and im kind of regretting it. as my TAB S 8.4 SM-T705 LTE Model is my daily driver.. it's still running like a champ over 3500 chargers dischargers i was planning to make it my daily driver the TAB S4 but its slightly to big yeah i know...... lol..
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If you like the smaller size, it might have been a good idea to look at Huawei Mediapad M5 with 8.4 screen. It has its flaws (no 3.5mm jack, bluetooth doesn't work well with wifi on) but I think it's the highest end small Android tablet officially distributed in the US.

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If you like the smaller size, it might have been a good idea to look at Huawei Mediapad M5 with 8.4 screen. It has its flaws (no 3.5mm jack, bluetooth doesn't work well with wifi on) but I think it's the highest end small Android tablet officially distributed in the US.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but it's not AMOLED, plus i need a solid Bluetooth connection, as I just picked up Sony MDR1000XM2 headphones it ain't even got aptx hd from a quick google search I think I'll stuck with samsung and sony..

Hello. I consider to buy SM-T805 LTE to watch Netflix movies (due to 16:10 ratio) . Is a good idea in 2018? Will brand new (I am able to buy one) have full battery power? Is there original MM for SM-T805 or is there DRM Level1 support in open ROMs?

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Hello. I consider to buy SM-T805 LTE to watch Netflix movies (due to 16:10 ratio) . Is a good idea in 2018? Will brand new (I am able to buy one) have full battery power? Is there original MM for SM-T805 or is there DRM Level1 support in open ROMs?
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Netflix / Amazon prime app not work good on this tab even it has level 1 support due to old soc.

I have used Prime movies on my T800 and it worked fine.
Check your wifi connection speed if you get choppy playback.
John.

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Netflix / Amazon prime app not work good on this tab even it has level 1 support due to old soc.
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I am not sure how you arrived to this conclusion because my T800 works just fine with Netflix and Amazon prime. In fact, the Tab S is one of extremely few Android tablets that's approved by Netflix for full HD playback. The SoC may be old, but it's pretty much all you need to decode H264 (Full HD mpeg) stream
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939

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I am not sure how you arrived to this conclusion because my T800 works just fine with Netflix and Amazon prime. In fact, the Tab S is one of extremely few Android tablets that's approved by Netflix for full HD playback. The SoC may be old, but it's pretty much all you need to decode H264 (Full HD mpeg) stream
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
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No idea but i dont get Full hd on Netflix. Device also heat and drain battery faster. No such issues on my LG v30

If you're getting full hd on LG v30 but not on the tablet while both are connected to the same wifi hot spot, then there could be a hardware or software problem with the tablet.

Still using and loving my 10.5" T-800. I have wiped everything Samsung, software wise, and use Lineage OS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2) as it has great stability and performance and it does a pretty good job of keeping up with security patches (currently have August 2018 patch). What a fantastic tablet this is.